i posted this one the Second Trailer thread and I thought I would make a new topic...

i have a theory about the movie that i got from the trailer


SPOILER WARNING, IF U HAVENT SEEN THE TRAILER DO NOT READ, OR IF U DONT WANT TO KNOW DO NOT READ

ok so i went through the trailer and i was always wondering at the part that umbridge had malfoy and filch with her and says "get them" why it seemed that cho was there? so i paused it at that part and it seems that malfoy has cho held by the shoulder, and cho looks worried. SO i think that instead of cho's friend tattling to umbridge, i think that malfoy will get her to tell somehow...

i think this is pretty clever, and if this is true at least its a change that will not have a great effect on the whole movie, like in SOME past movies *cough* PoA, GoF *cough*

what do u guys think?

i think that that would completly ruin the whole movie cause then cho would be betraing her boyfreind and only jerks do that not hot girls like her!

hey it"s great u noticed that in the trailor

actually i couldn't find the scene u mentioned in second trailor or is it in the first one can u just guide me

anyways
according to the book of ootp malfoy and his group is also holding harry.hermoine,luna,ginny,neville
and ron when they caught as they try to find through fire that whether sirius is there in grimmauld palace or not and the kreacher misdirects harry.

however then hermoine misdirects umbridge and all of them then fly to the ministry
cho is not included here

but according to the new poster od ootp http://www.veritaserum.com/galleries/album...otpposter04.jpg
cho is along harry,ginny,hermoine,ron,neville and luna and so i think she is also involved in the fight with DE this can be a major change in the movie

Cho being in the poster probably means that she has a role along with the main. I t odesn't mean shes actually in it. I hope. That would seriously suck.

No, No, No, No, and NO! - SHE IS NOT IN THE FINAL BATTLE; this director actually has some sense and so i have been given the impression that he has stuck with the book all the way through; there is nothing in the film which shouldn't be there, according to the book, and anyways who cares if Cho is the snitch instead of Marrietta - i think it adds a much better scope to the story as well as Harry's and herself's own stormy relationship. If you read the book, their relationship has always been slightely rocky ever since they began going out with eachother, and the fact that Cho forcefully became the snitch resembles that relationship going wrong.

Monkeymushroom I completely agree with you! This is kind of funny, I'm going to be dressing up as Cho Chang for the midnight showing of HP:OotP but I can NOT stand her. Sorry Cho fans. I just don't like her. she's just so confusing and i understand why she's like that, thanks to hermione (in ootp lol) but still if she wasn't sure of herself or feelings than she shouldn't of gotten with harry! (i know it was jks fault but IRL thats what i would be saying lol) anyways, Cho isn't in the final battle, it's only luna, ginny and neville besides the golden trio. i have to check that scene though thankx for pointing that out!!! o.o hope you guys enjoy the next trailer that's out with Spiderman hehehe

Yeah i noticed that. but i just think she gets caught because i mean i'm not a big fan of Cho. As a character but... I think it would ruin the plot. Because Cho's character wouldn't do that. I hope that doesn't happen. I noticed this last night as well when i watched the trailer at the cinema. For spiderman 3. But yeah i hope it only means she just got caught.
And i think the reason Cho is in that poster is because it shows through the DA Harry and her get together.

i agree with u that cho should not be involved in the fight.Even i din't like her charecter she is confused like what to do in front of harry,even the kissing scene b/w cho and harry does'nt exite me as other new plots.I too hope that such mojor change will not be introduced in the film.

i agree. it was really weird when i saw that part. at first i was why is cho with a bunch of malfory's friends unbridge snd flich. that is really confusing. i but malfoy got it out of her

I think it is more or less certain that cho will be the one who leaks the DA where abouts to Umbridge, there is no Marrietta Edgecombe in the film, so it must be someone else.

It makes sense in some ways because Cho is an important character, but she doesnt go to the ministry with the others and she doesnt figure much in the next book

well to be honest i knew this already you might have heard about the advance screenings in chicago? well there is a thread started by someone who has info on what was seen i'll post the link for those who want to see but BEWARE OF MAJOR SPOILERS only go on if you want to be spoiled it has lots of info about what will most likely be in the film but it might not all happen because it was just a screening and it could very well be tweaked so here's the Link go to the bottom of the first page for the full details!

Lupin-Lover is right, some of us knew it for the Chicado thngy... ... but anyways...as much as i don't like, ok COMPLETELY HATE, Cho chang, i still don't think is a good reason for them to break up.It would have been better if it had slipped out or something, because if we see it as it's performed in the movie, it would make Harry a total jerk; but just veritaserum?? that's not her fault


[however i still dont like her ]

The impact this leakage from cho will have on her's and Harry's relationship is that they will fall further apart from eachother. If the Director has chosen to include their relationship going wrong from the kiss - with awkeward arguments and stuff - then we will see that their relationship has always been a bit rocky from the start because of Cedric's death, and then the bit where Cho is forced to tell the truth will act as the catalyst, which ends heir relationship altogether. This is just something that happens with some relationships and it won't be because of the fact that Harry may end up a complete jerk. Although this would make sense for the film because Harry is going to be portrayed as someone who is angry with everyone and chooses to push some people away, even Cho who he bagan to have feelings for.

The strange thing is i have to keep reminding myself that the girl who plays Cho Chang isn't as complicated and ennoying as the character itself, because everytime the internet posts new information about her i'm just like "oh who cares" cos she turns out to be a really boring charcter in the end anyway, in the book - what with the unnecassary arguments she concucts between herself and Harry. And Harry doesn't exactly make it any better either.

I dont really like Cho either, she is very confusing, especially with the unnescasary fights and all. That would totoally ruin their relationship if Cho told. But maybe Cho was going to stop Marietta, and it was too late and Cho was the first person they found. I mean, the director wouldnt make that much of a mistake- that was a huge scene in the book.

In my opinion, I think this would be a fantastic improvement! Haha. I think that because a lot of the audience doesn't like Cho, it was a good plan to have her rat out the DA because that just makes her more of a ... person we don't like! Hehe. I don't know ... maybe it's just me who thinks that it's an improvement?

I saw the movie and Cho did spill it! But it wasn't all her fault cause they gave her veritaserum. I thought that was a good idea. But I would have liked to see the fight in Madam Purits or whatever it's called. This scene made Cho seem nicer.


Cho wanted to tell Harry that it wasn't her fault, but he just ignored her, and that's why they broke up. By the time he found out the truth the fling had faded away.

I think Cho leaking to Umbridge was a better way to close Harry and Cho's relationship then the whole scene with her crying and having a row with Harry. Hats off to the writers with that one.



Oh and by the way i thought Grawp was really cool!

I saw OotP and it was awesome!!!!!! I never really liked Cho,so that was another reason so I wouldn't like her.I know they gave her veritaserum,but still I don't really like her.This is sooooooo off topic ,but did anyone see how Ginny was always looking at Harry and that she didn't have a boyfriend?if anyone wants to discuss OotP you can PM me.I would love to know peoples opinions of the movie.

Yes, I noticed that! When ever Cho was mentioned she looked really jealous! Anyway, back to subject. I kind of like how they had her spill, because it was a great way to end their relationship!
DD's-man-through-and-through

Though I agree that it was a great way to end the relationship between Harry and Cho, I really didn't like how they made her as the culprit instead of Marietta. I think that's one plot point they should've stuck to.

I abosolutely hated this!!! Why David??? Why?? I liked it better in the book when Maritette squealed... And they didn't even have SNEAK written across Cho's face...

I didn't like that Harry didn't aplogize either...

I can understand why they didn't have Marietta do it; It actually makes more sense this way.

First of all, that's a whole other NEW character they have to introduce and make sure you know she's Cho's best friend and isn't quite that thrilled to be in the DA which just makes the plot more complicated. It works well for the books, but not for a movie.

Secondly, having Cho betray Harry allows them to cut several scenes of usesless Cho-Harry argueing because Cho is jealous or just being silly or whatever. Although I liked those in the books.. particularly the one in madam pudifoots, it's just more confusing for the movie.

I'm not sure if I like the whole idea of her only doing it because of the veritaserum though. It makes the break up seem like Harry's fault and that he should apologize to her whereas in the books it was Cho obviously being silly.

Harry and Ginny... I just saw the movie. Cho did leak the DA. It did ruin the movie! HAH! 1st one to reply after the movie came out!!! WAIT noooooooooooooooooo!!!!! it isn't true! OK bye!

well as much as i like marrietta doing it in the book i see why they did it in the movie and i am alright with it

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First of all, that's a whole other NEW character they have to introduce and make sure you know she's Cho's best friend and isn't quite that thrilled to be in the DA which just makes the plot more complicated. It works well for the books, but not for a movie.

Secondly, having Cho betray Harry allows them to cut several scenes of usesless Cho-Harry argueing because Cho is jealous or just being silly or whatever. LouRan20

also... they could have at least had "SNEAK" on chos face that would have made it a bit better also!!!!!!

Heya

It fits that they made the snitch Cho cause after the whole Da they do seem to drift apart and it made perfect sense to do it that way. If the used Mariiette they would have to cast another character and made us believe she is cho's friend. And that would have taking extra time from the other scenes. Anyways I like the way it is shown that Cho is the snitch.

~dewet

well ive actually already seen the movie, but im not gonna spoil it for you, but at first everyone starts hating cho, but if you pay attention in the scene where they are all in umbridges office, snape says something that explains it, but youve gotta listen carefully. im not gonna say anymore so i dont spoil it for people, but just pay attention in that scene and you will understand.


by the way, im sorry if anyone else has said this but i couldnt be bothered reading all of the replys.

OK, im trying really hard not to spoil it, but WHAT THE CRUD WAS THE CHO THING ABOUT?
I know the thing with snape in the office with snape telling Umbridge kind of explained it, but otherwise I was completely in denile of it!

I didnt like how they had her do that in the movie. I would have liked them to have shown her friend tell about the DA like they did in the books. I thought that would have been a better way for them to have done it.

Now that I have seen the movie, it makes total sense. It would be too confusing to add another character, and it is a perfect nail in the coffin for Harry's relationship with Cho. It opens the door with Ginny. Did you notice in the movie that Ginny was ticked that Harry wanted to be alone with Cho? Also that everyone was so impressed that her spells were by far the most powerful of anyone in the DA. It just reinforced that she is up and coming and a force to be reckoned with. I am glad Cho made it out neatly and quickly.

Well It kinda does make sence that Cho Betrayed the DA because of several reasons...

1. Umbridge wasnt gunna give up and she was using Veritaserum!
2. Harry was hanging with Hermione and Cho didnt like that at all, u saw her experision when Hermione came running up to tell him Hagrid was back.She was alittle mad and upset with that!
3. It was a good way to end the relationship with Cho and Harry, because after the DA had that detention with Umbridge Harry was really mad at Cho, wait everyone was mad at Cho!
and 4. It was better then getting a new Character

Thats wat i think

~Gryffindor Girl!~

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Ok so, I saw the movie. Cho was the one that told them but only because they used the Veritaserum potion on her. (for those of you who don't know, that's a truth potion, so if you drink it, you have to tell the truth.)

well. i think that it was a poor choice to give her veritaserum and then let harry find that out. because of course now he will want to go tell her hes sorry for not listening or whatever and then whats preventing them from getting back together in the sixth book?

I'm fine with Cho leaking about the DA to Umbridge. It makes sense to do that, because it ends Harry and Cho and saves us from watching all the arguing. It also saved them from having to hire another actress for Marietta, so it saved the film makers money and it saved them the time of having to audition someone. They would have also had to explain who Marietta is, and point out the fact that she didn't really want to go to the DA which is one of the reasons she blabbed. It saved time to cut her out. Also it got rid of the veritaserum so there was none left to interogate Harry.

Uhh, why? Who cares about Marietta? She's not an important character.

Cho leaking the DA to Umbridge was effective and economical because:

1.) the DA ended
2.) Harry and Cho's relationship ended.

for me it doesn't matter if they use the character of cho for leaking the da to umbridge in the movie. but what i don't like is that snape is the one that gave umbridge the veritaserum potion. but books and movies are entirely different medium so can't expect them to be the same

Personally, I didn't really like this part. I feel like in the book Harry & Cho ended because Harry was a different person after what happened at the ministry, that he was more serious and Cho was a part of Harry's life before he became this person and that- along with her still not being over Cedric- was why Harry and Cho were over. But I feel like in the movie it was completely different, that they were only over because Harry thought Cho betrayed him. The main reason I don't like this (other than it kind of changes a mini part of the story line) is that now Harry knows the truth and it seems like the relationship can be salvaged and it really shouldn't be that way... I don't know, just my thoughts. That being said, it didn't drastically negatively affect anything.

I didn't like that part. But Cho was forced to leak about the DA. Umbridge gave her a big amount of Veritaserum. The truth serum spoke for Cho. In the book her friend told Umbridge. In the movie Cho took Veritaserum without knowing and told because of that. So technically Cho didn't leak the truth serum made her tell without realizing it. I don't think it is fair to call her a traitor. She didn't mean to tell.

Well, later on in the film, when Umbridge is asking for Veritaserum from Snape, Snape says some thing like: "You used the last bit on Ms. Chang"... or something... so that just proves that in the film, Umbridge squeezed the truth out of Cho, by using the Veritaserum..

If that makes sense lol

I hate the fact that they miss out large chunks out from the book and they add in bits that don't even exist in the books !