what's about the room with the clocks?
that room were the death eater fall through a clock and he became first very old then very yuong as a baby..(baby death eater:P)
Why is the room there?
Are they specualizing about room and time? or something

hmm

Maybe that's were they put the time turners and things like that.

I think that is where they probably keep the time turners. The deatheater probably put his head throught bewitched clock.

This room is unofficially known as the "Time Room," and yes, it is where Time Turners are kept. In this room, there are many, many clocks, in addition to hourglasses, which appear to be Time Turners, and a bell jar. This bell jar is what the Death Eater falls into. It shows the progression of time, and it makes him grow from an adult back into a baby, and into an adult again, and back into a baby...

I think all of the rooms in the Department of Mysteries contain things that wizards are studying. However, some of them seem much more concrete than others. For example, the Hall of Prophecy contains the prophecies, which are solid objects, and the room seems to be more of a place where they are stored than anything else. However, another room contains "thoughts," while yet another contains a "force." These two rooms seem to be places where something is studied rather than a storage area, if you will. But yes, there were Time Turners, among other things, in the Time Room.

ah, okey, but what are they atually doing ther?

I think that they are studying different things in each room of the Department of Mysteries, specifically time in that room. However, I also think that they are keeping Time Turners there and regulating the use of them. I think, though, that wizards are trying to learn more about time and how it works. While they know how to go back in time, which is obviously more than we Muggles can do, there are still things that they don't know about it. They are probably learning more about time: how it works, what can go wrong with it, maybe how to go into the future? There are so many things that can be studied with time that they must find something to do there...

yes, you probably right.

If harry got killed and Voldemort become all power in the wizarding world, perhaps DD would go back in time and changes thing's, it's agains the rules but it doesn't matter when all good humanity stands in play.

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if there were time turners then why didnt they go back in time? they could have stopped sirius from dying!

Bacause if they've stopped Sirius from trying to save Harry in DOM, maybe Harry would've been attacked by a death-eater, and if they've bursted in to the room with the Veil, they would have been seen by the others. then they've probably go crazy. I mean, two dumbledores, I don't think they can do that.

yes, ofcoures, thats why its there.

The Death-eaters in the Ministry of Magic, wizards, studied and actually trapped time in a jar and when one of the Death-eaters falls into the jar, his head keeps growing alternatively old and young again because it is trapped in a cyclical flow of time within the jar. It means time in itself can flow and changes. Based on the book alone it would be easy to think the sequence of events, and use the time turner...but didn't MCGonnagall say awfull things have happened when wizards have meddled with time?

yes, she said that. imagine you manage to do something in your past that makes you didn't do somehting important, an suddenly you dont' exist anymore in the future. Lots of awfully thing could happend.

That bell jar did tell us some interesting things about how time works in Rowling's books, but Lulu is right: going back in time to try to change the events in the DoM is just too risky. Harry didn't die, none of the other kids died, the DEs were caught (except Bellatrix), the Prophecy was smashed and no one heard it, and Voldemort was exposed before the Aurors and Fudge himself. The good guys wouldn't want to risk that outcome. Since the DEs got caught, even if one had a Time Turner he wouldn't be able to use it. And Neville smashed the entire shelf of Time Turners anyway, so no grabbing one after the battle.

So as a concluesion; Traveling with time is very, very dangerous. What Harry and Hermione did in PoA was very risky, but they didn't stop or change any events did they? and no one swa them.

But how can you study with time in that room in DoM?
what can you do to find out these things.
Have somone every done something wrong to themelves when traveling with time?

While I know that travelling in time is dangerous as pointed out by DD in PoA - they still ended up entrusting it with Hermione for her school work AND in the end when things got serious with Sirius (Really, no pun intended) DD risked everything going terribly wrong by instructing them to go back in time and trying to fix things. If one life was important enough to bust out the TT, then why wouldn't the supposed 'hundreds of lives' that were lost due to voldemort, not warrant the use of the TT?
In the words of Scott (Dr. Evil's son):

'If you have a time Machine, why don't you just go back and kill Austin while he's on the crapper or something?'

And now to answer my own question somewhat, perhaps it's because of the prophecy and the knowledge that Harry must be the one to kill him.
Sorry. I would have just scrapped the whole post seeing as though I answered my own question, but the very thought of all that work I put into composing the first paragraph was too much to consider deleting.

its where u get time turners from!!!!!!! O-B-V-I-O-U-S-L-Y!!!!!!!!!!!!

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While re-reading Oreder of the pheonix today, I read how one Death-Eater got his head into a clock in the "Room of Time", he suddenly became a baby, at least his head, he had no controll of his body, and could beraly walk. So my question is: Can you become younger in the "Room of Time"?
Because that Death-Eater did lose some years didn't he? He once more became a baby, so if your old and want to become a few years younger, you can do that in the Room of Time?

Maybe you can, but you lose control when you enter a time-turner(as happens to that DE), so it may not be such a good idea.

Yes of coures if you did it alone, but if you wanted to become younger someone would have to help you right? doing it alone would be dangerous.

yeah, but there's also the fact that the time-turners are in the DoM, and (in theory) only the Unspeakables can be there.

how rigth you are Hallia. I wonder if they'll ever publish these clocks so that people can loose some years, would that mean you're imortal? You can be killed but you can't die bevuase of your age.

okie dokie! i've read a theory that the seven rooms represent the book series. since one of the rooms is the room with the watches and clocks, i think it represents time of course!
but i think you're right, it is where time turners can be seen.
and i think that it also somehow represent PoA since hermione uses the timeturner to do a lot of things as well as rescuing buckbeak and sirius!

from what i belive about the veil, a time turner would be useless to prevent sirrus death, as i belive the the veil is more a gateway/portal to a dimention where death resides. also thinking back to how the workings of the time turner are described, if you went back to prevent the death if sirrus you would in effect prevent yourself going back in time to prevent it thefore you get a recuring loop, this only happens when you time travel, rather than existing as an independent entity in that time period, as you would through time displacement. through time displacement you could save him, however there does not seam to be any way of jumping through time using time displacement, only time travel (time turner).

Alright, multiple theories in one post!

On the clocks:
I think some of the clocks are death clocks. Most people have seen the online death clock, yes? It could be that some of the clocks are attuned to certain individuals (whether on purpose or accident remains to be deliberated); some of the clocks could just be bewitched clocks that are potentially dangerous or infused with old magic. As someone stated, McGonagall said that many wizards screwed up while messing with time. I don't believe Rowling ever stated which way the clocks were going. Because of the nature of the Dept. of Mysteries, it's hard to tell anything concrete without word from Rowling herself.

As to the bewitching of clocks -- that would seem to be Arthur Weasley's department (har har har), but with a strong enough charm or infusing them with ancient spells or dark magic, the outcome could be potentially dangerous, and they would need to be removed from where they were. We also don't know how long some of the clocks have been there. There could be some from the 15th century, for all we know. Concerning the nature of the enchantments themselves, there are almost endless possibilities.

On the bell jar:
The bell jar is probably a conduit to the flow of time itself. It bridges the gap from linear time (which is the real world) to circular time, or time that flows in multiple directions (which is the power of time travel, and the Time Turners) and creates a small bubble of maleable time. That's probably how they make the Time Turners -- by connecting the two flows and confining them in an object. The bell jar is most likely, then, very old and made by more ancient wizards like Nicolas Flamel, who didn't have to restrict their studies to such secret facilities because of the more universal belief in magic.

can i ask how sally-anne perks knows all this stuff i mean how can [u] know for sure about all that stuff??

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In PoA Hermione says that it was very hard for DD to get the time turner for her. If the time turners were inf the DoM then they were there for a good reson. McGonagall told Hermoine that people end up killing thier past/ futer selves if they mess with time. Only higly trianed wizards are suppse to go into the DoM, it's not exatly a safe place. Magic defines the laws of science, and so dose time travel. Harry and the rest understood that they were going into a dangerous place, and they had no idea what to expect. The DoM might still be studing time itself, what time is in the wizarding world. Also if Harry and the others had used the Time Turners, than Voldemort would have known that they were all coming to the DoM, and might have possible killed them all if he knew where they would be.

You said about why didn't they change the past...

As in many movies or books has been said, a fluctuation in time, such as change it, may create a time-paradox...

As we saw in PoA movie (very well, indeed), all of what they did in both scenaries (first, and then Time-Turned) 'plained'...

It was the 'future' to do it...

For example, taking PoA movie again. They did exactly what the 'other Harry and Hermione' did, and then all was perfectly fulfilled...

Imagine for a second that they used Time Turners on they Department of Misteries to save Sirius. Wouldn't be almost the same?...

Maybe it was 'destined' for Sirius to die that night, and nothing, even a Time Turner would change it...

That's my thought about it...

Even when in real life I always thing that the future can be changed, because it's determined by each one of us; in JKR's books has marked some characteristics, and I said this according to them...

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Actually they couldnt go back in time because they cant anymore. Because when they were in the 'Room of Time' they broke all the time-turners, and thats also where their created.

It would be foolish to believe that the only timer-turners are held in the department of mysteries.... the ministry can barely hold on to flying carpets let alone time-turners... i do believe Dumbledore may have one, if anyone would he would be my first pick

The ministry can't possibly have EVERY time turner ever made. Thats a little unplausible. I agree that Dumbledore probably had a few. Harry might discover a lot of secrets about dumbledore in the next book that will really help him. Such as the fact that he has secret items, like Time Turners.

maybe book seven will reveil more about the Departmen

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Mabey Hermione gave McGonigal back the one she used in PoA and McGonigal still has it somewhere.

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I agree with Devil's Advocate that book seven is going to reveal a lot of secrets about Dumbledore's past and I also think it will do a lot for the Department of Mysteries. It's pretty clear that Rowling had Harry and Co go through all those extra rooms for a reason, otherwise she never would have made the first circular dark room spin and disorient them.

I think some of the ways to destroy Voldemort are hidden in the DoM, they just haven't been discovered by the Unspeakables who work there.

I think the biggest secret is going to be hidden beyond the veil.

Anyway, I'm not talking about the right stuff here. The Time Room.

There will be more to this room. I don't think it is the sole source for Time Turners. It may be in England. But there are other ministries of magic. Lest we forget, this ministry of magic is the English one. Maybe the french or bulgarians or irish have time turners in their ministries.

I'm not sure if JKR would send the trio or so back in time again (repetative storyline as it is) so i don't totally see the need for this room in the next novel, but i'm sure Rowling will prove me wrong.

I also think, Meghan Lou, that McGonagall, being the strict disiplinarian that she is, would return that time turner

I'm not sure but I thought I read somewhere in one of JKR's interviews about time travel. I believe they asked her if Harry will end up traveling back in time again. She had said that it is possible, but that's neither a yes or no. I agree that it's possible DD may have one in his office somewhere. I just wonder, what would be the point of time travel this time? What would it achieve?