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Moon(I luv you Luna)

Jul 28 2007, 04:46 AM

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Seriouslysirius

Jul 28 2007, 01:33 PM

Hi Ron and Hermione thread. again.

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cristipotter - My cousion whos just nearly finished the book went passed that bit and laughed at it. - Yeah i agree i liked it too.

azkabanical

Jul 28 2007, 05:00 PM

QUOTE(cristipotter @ Jul 27 2007, 04:05 PM) [snapback]419976[/snapback]

I'm really looking forward to the film

Oh, I am too! I wonder what R/Hr moments will make it in.

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But seriously, I've read the book twice by this time, and both times I caught myself imagining what certain scenes would look like in the film. Annoying, really.

cristipotter

Jul 28 2007, 06:06 PM

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But seriously, I've read the book twice by this time, and both times I caught myself imagining what certain scenes would look like in the film. Annoying, really.

Oh my God! ME TOO! It is so annoying because I want the whole thing to be in it but I know it won't be, so I start picturing everything and how they will change stuff and fit it in...it's so ANNOYING!

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jaltesorensen

Jul 28 2007, 09:43 PM

one thing that annoyed me a little by book 7 was

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when they make the film, they gotta make more.
they did a very good job in movie 5 making hermione and ron more focused on each other than harry, and that they really think each other are brilliant and say it (tenderness).
That are things that should be more of in future films, just to make the audience "buy" Ron and Hermione, so that they dont think it is harry and hermione (with all due respect to my Harmonian friends - they where never a realistic couple).

megan elise smith

Jul 28 2007, 10:05 PM

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Kelso2010

Jul 28 2007, 11:55 PM

I absolutely loved the R/Hr-ness in this book especially

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-Kelsea

megan elise smith

Jul 29 2007, 01:04 AM

i know what you mean. And then wen harry wakes up hermione, and she starts punching ron, i thought that was perfect. she kept them ron and hermione. It was completly true to their characters. And it was absolutly heart wrenching at the malfoy manor. When it said he was half sobbing as he called her name....intense!!!!

cristipotter

Jul 29 2007, 05:50 AM

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I LOVE RONHERMIONE ! ITS REALLY UNBELIEVABLE HOW MUCH I LIKE THIS SHIP!

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crookshanks16

Jul 29 2007, 10:55 AM

haven't posted anything in ages...

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Venom

Jul 29 2007, 11:41 AM

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jaltesorensen

Jul 29 2007, 06:22 PM

But when this book is made into a movie, they just have to put more Ron and Hermione stuff in it, just to make audience better accept it. They really have to underline that Ron and Hermione really love each other.

They did not use all the Ron/Hermione stuff from Book 4 in film number 4. That was dissapointing.

But the Ron and Hermione stuff from 5th book however was really highlighted and spiced up in movie 5 - and that is what they also should do in the 2 remaning films. The fifth film really was a great Ron/Hermione-film...... but then again it had to compensate for the lack that was in movie 4.

Venom

Jul 29 2007, 07:39 PM

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~Miss_Granger~

Jul 29 2007, 09:07 PM

QUOTE(Venom @ Jul 29 2007, 09:39 PM) [snapback]421759[/snapback]

Just wondering, but can anyone picture the kiss in their minds? When I do, I get this:

Hermione runs at Ron and kisses him passionately. Ron is a bit surprised for a split second then drops what he was carrying and also kisses her passionately. Ron is holding Hermione in the air, with his arms wrapped around her body in a kind of hug. While Hermione has her arms wrapped around Ron's neck.

Yeah, I imagine it the same way you do. Definitively. I mean, he literally swept her off her feet.

cristipotter

Jul 29 2007, 09:48 PM

not too gross though, just a cute kiss, the ones that make you go "YAY!" and then Dan can be like.."guys, guys! PLEASE!" or just not be there (like in the yule ball fight)

and I agree with the lack of RHr on Gof film, although the Yule Brawl was absolutely well done, when Emma cried I think she made it perfectly and then Rupert actually stuttered! it was amazing I really loved it...and well the fact that "magic works" was playing in the background and if you listen to the lyrics, it is like a song encouraging Ron to make a move on Hermione... there's the "she said yes?!" when she finds out Ron asked Fleur out. I don't really remember but there wasn't so much RHr in the Gof book besides Ron hating Krum was there? But well I think Ootp totally made up for it and I hope we get a kiss on the cheek for HBP!

Moon(I luv you Luna)

Jul 30 2007, 12:13 AM

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cristipotter

Jul 30 2007, 01:04 AM

Moon, in 5th year Hermione kisses Ron on the cheek and Ron teases Hermione with "Vicky" Krum! LOL maybe you forgot about that...

And if you count all those things they put in the movies, there's no doubt it has always been RHr all along

Amyrat151

Jul 30 2007, 01:24 AM

"Such a lovely sweet tempered girl"-Ron in OotP, and OMG Moon the check kiss in OotP. There are tons of moments in OotP, but not a ton, it's the in between stage. Ron knows he likes Hermione, and Hermione knows she likes Ron, but Harry needs there support, though he'd never admit it more than ever. There's not much time to ponder how to make a move. Add Harry to Hermione obessing over OWLs and Ron obessing on how to be a decent keeper, it's understandable that neither made a notiable move.

Potterfan7

Jul 30 2007, 06:41 AM

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iluvviktorkrum

Jul 30 2007, 02:38 PM

i think that Potterfan7 said it all. i could've said it any better. it's true how they complete eachother. they are a good couple.

jaltesorensen

Jul 30 2007, 04:05 PM

Moon(I luv you Luna): very good summerizing of all the important Ron/Hermione stuff

But i also think it is weird that people call OoTP the "H/Hr"-bible. I see plenty of Ron/Hermione things in it.

First of all, all the scenes betwen Harry and Hemione all reflect that they are friends ONLY. Because we see the book from Harry´s point of view - and he never show no romantic feelings for hermione - so they arent there.

In chapter 14 of the 5th book, Hermione agrees to help Ron with his home-work, so Ron tells her that she is the most wonderful person he has ever met..... talk about a R/Hr-moment! What a compliment!

In chapter 16 of the 5th book, Hermione talks about Vikto krum, and Ron gets jealous at once. But Harry really dont care. I.E. love between Ron and Hermione only.

In chapter 19 of the 5th book, Hermione kisses ron on the cheek, just before the match. A kiss that really affects Ron to be very dreamy. But Hermione does not give Harry one. What a R/Hr-moment.

In chapter 21 of the 5th book, Harry explain his kiss with Cho to Hermione and Ron. Now here Harmonians are contradicting each other - Harry kissed another Girl, Hermione helped him to better understand Cho, to better date him (and would she really do that if she loved him? how about no). This scene is very well made in the 5th film, which really illustrates the truth of the scene, that it indeed was a R/Hr-scene and has always have been, and not a H/Hr-moment as someone claims.

There a more moments, but i wont mention them, since the over-all picture of Harry/Hermione dosent fit. Why would Hermione love Harry? She helps him and guides him to date and kiss Cho! Would she do that if she loved him? No. But then again she could be hiding her feelings for him, but then you have to consider that Hermione did not like that Ron was kissed by Fleur in the 4th book by the lake, and that Ron talked to Fleur in the end of book 4. But then agian, maybe Hermione has learned to hide her feelings, but then the 6th book came: when Ron was with Lavender, Hermione was obviously jealous and avoided him and lavnder. But she did not do the same with Ginny and Harry.
So all logic should have made all people realise it was going to be Ron and Hermione prior to book 7.
but then again, shipping is about faith.

Amyrat151

Jul 30 2007, 06:02 PM

And all about personal opinion.
It's true what Potterfan7 said I think, they both make up for what the other lacks. Hermione is brainy and all, but she doesn't know when to back off on Harry, being very much like a nagging mother in that way. Ron knows how to make Harry smile when nothing else does.

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Yeah, I can see why it would be called the shipping bible for H/Hr, because Harry is glad when Hermione doesn't die, and she clings to him in fear when she thinks she's about to get killed by a giant. I could go ahead and write how they indacate little but friendship, but that's for a differnt thread.

Venom

Jul 30 2007, 06:47 PM

Who kind of wishes that after the final battle there were more R/Hr moments. More kisses etc...

Amyrat151

Jul 30 2007, 06:52 PM

We could get more than one in the movie, it all depends on who directs and what they think is right and what fits. But if th person who directs is a fan of Hermione and Ron then we could get more.

GinnyDoraGranger

Jul 30 2007, 07:46 PM

I have been a R/Hr shipper from the very begining, so ...

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Venom

Jul 30 2007, 08:38 PM

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Just the Droobles

Jul 30 2007, 09:45 PM

Ok, maybe I'm a little thick, but what exactly is supposed to be on page 502? Am I completely missing something here? I flipped to the page and it talked about Shell cottage and that was about it. So if someone could please fill me in, that would be fantastic. I read American Hardback, by the way.

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For the sixth, they really just need to keep all the bickering and not hint to much at their eventual relationship, but also include their reconciliation and the crying at Dumbledore's funeral. that would be best.

barnyweasley

Jul 30 2007, 09:48 PM

reading about ron and hermione's relationship grow over the series, who wouldn't have expected them to get togehter in the end?! i loved how j.k. rowling did it , it was a perfect way to tie it all up between them i just feel a bit sorry for harry..having his two best friends making out every 5 mins now haha
i wonder what ginny felt about their relationship since she and hermione were becoming closer friends...

cristipotter

Jul 31 2007, 12:11 AM

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And I think the RHr-ness was perfect in DH, like in a perfect...um..."dose"...LOL! It wasn't TOO romantic, because that would have been way OOC and not the point, but it was romantic enough to make us go "aww!" and squeal and be happy and sad for them!

They should keep all the important moments in the 7th movie (locket, malfoy manor, angry Hermione, kiss) and the little things they put in. In the 6th they should make them bicker a lot and be jealous of who each other is dating! And comfort each other at the end.

Moon(I luv you Luna)

Jul 31 2007, 04:26 AM

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Ok, i guess there were some R/Hr things in OotP. I just couldn't think of anything at the time. But i think i did pretty well.

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Well i dunno about the American version, but in the UK version, page 502 is when Ron and Hermione share their first kiss (as in "full on the mouth"). Actualy, i have the book in front of me, so i'll type it up:

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"Hang on a moment!" said Ron sharply. "We've forgotten someone!"

"Who?" asked Hermione.

"The house-elves, they'll be down in the kitchen, won't they?"

"You mean we ought to get them fighting?" asked Harry.

"No." said Ron seriously, "I mean we should tell them to get out. We don't want anymore Dobbys, so we? We can't order them to die for us-"

There was a clatter as the basalisk fangs cascaded out of Hermione arms. Running at Ron, she flung them around his neck and kissed him full on the mouth. Ron threw away the fangs and broomstick he was holding and responded with such enthusiasm that he lifted Hermione off her feet.

"Is this the moment?" Harry asked weekly, and when nothing happened except that Ron and Hermione gripped each other still more firmly and swayed on the spot, he raised his voice. "OI! There's a war going on here!"

Ron and Hermione broke apart, their arms still around each other.

"I know mate," said Ron, who looked as though he had recently been hit on the back of the head with a bludger, "So it's now or never, isn't it?"

"Never mind that, what about the horcrux?" Harry shouted. "D-you think you could just-just hold it in until we've got the diadem?"

"Yeah-right-sorry-" said Ron, and he and Hermione set about gathering up fangs, both pink in the face.

The moment us herons have been waiting for, for years. I love callin this "The Now-or-never-moment".

It starts at the bottom of the page and goes onto page 503. But this is in the UK version. During the battle at Hogwarts.

But yeah, i can't believe that we've waited so long for this moment. My friend reakons it was overdone. I was yelling "YAE-YA!" and started happy-dancing while laughing my head off. What was your guys' reaction?

Just the Droobles

Jul 31 2007, 04:52 AM

Oooh, that's what I figured, but I never know who has which copies.

The kiss for me is on page 625...I didn't think they were so spread out!! Is there really that much difference from book to book or is the UK version's font just really small?

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Venom

Jul 31 2007, 10:29 AM

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Ladie Lily Potter

Jul 31 2007, 03:01 PM

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Venom

Jul 31 2007, 03:41 PM

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krazy4kreacher

Jul 31 2007, 03:51 PM

Hmm, This is interesting. I never really thought about it. My personal opinion is that neither really thought about "love" either.

I think they both liked each other, But if they loved each other, the reason they wouldn't act on it is with the Horocrux search

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and all, it would be hard. Also, they probably thought of Harry feeling wierd too.

But as I said, I don't think they knew they loved each other. The feeling of liking probably grew into love during the next ten years or so.

Venom

Jul 31 2007, 03:57 PM

I think they must have been in love with each other at that point, what with all the points that came up during DH. Besides, love isn't something that has to come last.

weasleysarelove

Jul 31 2007, 05:14 PM

In my opinion ever since about the second book Ron has liked Hermione. He was the most messed up when she was attacked by the basilisk in the second book. And then in the third he comforted her when buckbeak was killed(even though they were fighting about crookshanks and scabbers)

They also fight a lot throughout the series, and most of the time when two friends, male/female cant stop arguing over stupid things like that it means they are developing something.

In book four its so evident its screaming! The Yule Ball was a dead give away that Ron was really jealous over Krum.

Hermione realises she likes Ron too when she sees him snogging Lavender, and after that they pretty much are together.

The relationship was pretty evident throughout most of the series, and I liked it that way. I think they are very well suited for each other

Amyrat151

Jul 31 2007, 09:02 PM

I agree, Ron's like Hermione since book two, but didn't know it till GoF. Hermione didn't figure out her feelings till PoA, earier than Ron. I think that Hermione figured that she loved Ron around the end of OotP, because the war is apon them...they could be killed that's why she decided to ask Ron out in HBP. I'm not sure when Ron felt the full mesure of his feelings but no later than the end of HBP. Maybe after Dumbledore died. ::shrug::
I read a quote that made me happy
J.K. Rowling: Dumbledore understood Ron's importance in the trio. He wasn't the most skilled, or the most intelligent, but he held them together; his humour and his good heart were essential.
Ron is the <3! Hermione's the brains, Harry's the fighter.

I'm praying for a cheek kiss in HBP. Them being both the sweetest they can be to eachother, at that point, and the most hurtful. I really can't wait. HBP is still my favorite book because of how it sharply focuses on Harry and Voldermort's development. Plus I am a fan of Ginny and I feel she was left out on in DH.
Droobs, I own the britsh version of OotP, the type is quite a bit smaller and there's no pictures, which is a bit sad for me.

HP#1_wee_lil'

Jul 31 2007, 11:44 PM

This is the first I've came back to this thread since I read the book so I need to get this out :

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cristipotter

Jul 31 2007, 11:47 PM

I think they loved loved each other romantically from this book and on, before it was just love between friends and liking each other. When I started reading Harry Potter I was very young so I didn't care much about shipping or anything, and I just noticed them liking each other the SECOND time I read Gof! (How stupid was I, huh?)...then with some friends we started talking about who did Hermione like...this was WAY before being a completely obsessed HP fan, by the way, just after the release of PoA movie... and we all agreed it was Ron/Hermione (even though I was the only one there who had read the books) thanks to the awkward handshake and to Hermione holding Ron's hand in the whole Buckbeak scene. The awkward handshake made my mom say "They like each other, don't they?"...so thanks WB for putting that in! Ok...I don't know what that has to do with anything, but oh well...

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I love Ron Weasley!

weasleyfan94

Aug 1 2007, 03:34 PM

The first sign of them liking each other romantically was in GoF. In HBP while Ron is dating Lavender, Hermione doesn't go and date someone else. Hermione is much more mature than Ron and she is willing to wait for Ron to grow up.

gryffindorgirlie

Aug 1 2007, 06:27 PM

I'm soooo glad we're allowed to talk about them in DH now! (unless I was misled by 'spoilers after page 8'???) SPOILER IF I WAS MISLED!

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~Miss_Granger~

Aug 1 2007, 07:02 PM

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Amyrat151

Aug 1 2007, 08:46 PM

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Venom

Aug 1 2007, 08:52 PM

But did they know that the other was in love with them? E.g. Did Ron know that Hermione loved him?

jaltesorensen

Aug 1 2007, 08:57 PM

It has always been Ron and Hermione. Especially clear when you look back from book 7.

It was all clear from book 4, when Ron was Jealous of Hermione being with Krum and all. Being human as Ron is, it was natural of him to be so jealous. And also that he is immature and that point, he dosent fully realise his feelings for Hermione. Also it showed that Harry had NO feeling for Hermione. Because it is all seen from his point of view, and no romantic thoughts are written in the book..... Also, a thing that is important, at the contest at the lake, when Fleur kissed Ron on the cheek, Hermione looked angry at him, but not when Fleur did the same to Harry (clear indication of the final pair). Also in the departing of book 4, Hermione looks angry at Ron, when Ron is bedazled by Fleur.

Book 5 is the most important book of showing that Hermione and Harry has no romantic feelings, but a deep friendship. When Cho kissed Harry, Hermione was not jealuos, but happy and interrested, becaus she helped harry to better understand and date Cho (if she really loved him she would not have done that). Also there is the scene where Hermione kisses Ron on the Cheek, which really impacts him a lot. (also the 5th movie was just all R/Hr-stuff).

In book 6 it was clear. When Ron dated Lavender, Hermione was enraged and Jealous. But if she had not loved Ron, then she would not have acted that way. If Hermione had loved Harry instead, then she would not have been so glad as to help Harry date Ginny and Cho. Because the main-idea behind the H/Hr-thing is that Hermione is a world-champion of hiding her feelings - but the whole theory false apart, when we look at the way Hermione act when Ron dates Lavender.

And then there is book 7, that kinda confirms what i already said.

But would be really happy if they do the same with film 6, as they did with film 5. Book 5 had only little Ron/Hermione-stuff, but the film-makers put a lot more in, than i remember in the books, and rasied the level of it. That was really well made.

Amyrat151

Aug 1 2007, 09:14 PM

Venom, no, I don't think that Ron understood the depth of her feelings in HBP, otherwise he would of thought twice about going out with Lavender.
jaltesorensen, nice summary of what you believe their feelings to be. I agree that the flim makers did a lovely job with OotP, and I can't wait for HBP. I'm really really excited for it.

Venom

Aug 1 2007, 09:20 PM

I think that Ron possessed characteristics that Hermione didn't have and vice versa. So I think that's a reason why they were attracted to each other.

In GOF, Ron became jealous of Krum because he wanted Hermione to like him. He still wasn't completely sure about his feelings for her. When Fleur kissed Ron, Hermione also realized that she had feelings for him.

Over the years, these feelings began to grow and grow and became love but when it seemed that they were on the verge of beginning a relationship, Ron found about Hermione kissing Krum and became even more jealous and started going out with Lavender just to get back at her.

By the end of their sixth year, it became fairly obvious that they both knew that they were in love but then began the wars and the Horcrux hunt soon after, so they were forced to put their relationship to the side until it was all over.

Amyrat151

Aug 1 2007, 09:57 PM

I think Hermione knew she liked Ron awhile ago, in PoA and she wanted Ron to ask her to the Yule Ball, but thought that he wouldn't return her feelings. So accepted Krum's invation with happy surprise. It's sad that Ron didn't figure he liked Hermione sooner than the Yule Ball, they might of gone and would oh been together for years for us to enjoy their relationship, but I guess we'll have to settle with fan fiction.

cristipotter

Aug 2 2007, 01:19 AM

I think both Ron and Hermione acted in a very inmature way in HBP, and I think that the reason for Ron to date Lavender was to get back at Hermione because of kissing Krum, and because of all the things that Ginny told him that somehow made him feel less of a man or maybe like...for lack of a word...a loser (Harry kissed Cho, Ginny kissed Dean, Hermione kissed Krum). So then Hermione asks McLaggen to the party because she knows Ron hates him, just to get back at him. Hermione didn't even like McLaggen.

I think they started to like each other in PoA, but maybe they were on denial or something...because they were pretty young by then, but in GoF they couldn't hide it anymore (for Harry and for us at least) and Ron bursted with jealousy and Hermione with the whole "last resort" thing.

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