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Here are some of the questions that were being discussed in the previous thread. Feel free to discuss new ones - just as long as it's about the Order, of course!

If you could work with one person in the Order (living so DD does't count...Sorry!), who would it be and why?

Who would you least want to work with and why?

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Alright time to tackle the two new questions!

If you could work with one person in the Order (living so DD does't count...Sorry!), who would it be and why?

Hmm. This answer is rather hard. As much as I want to say Severus, I just don't think I could handle not knowing what he was doing all the time. That mystery and suspense would drive me up the wall. However, I still would really like to work with him.... this question is hard!

I think I'm going to have to say either Tonks or Remus.... though I'm leaning towards Tonks. She would brighten up the dark times a little by wearing a pig nose every now and again.

Who would you least want to work with and why?

Dung. Withought a doubt. I don't trust him at all, and if I'm going to be working with a group that's fighting for such a strong cause, I won't feel comfortable having to worry about him stealing something of mine.


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If you could work with one person in the Order (living so DD does't count...Sorry!), who would it be and why?

Without a doubt I would go with Tonks. I particularly enjoy her upbeat attitude toward life. She would make the menial jobs (like there are lots of those) seem a bit less dreary.

Who would you least want to work with and why?

Figgy. Because I would be stuck at Privet Drive every day. I would never be able to withhold my urge to hex the Dursleys into oblivion.

If you could work with one person in the Order (living so DD does't count...Sorry!), who would it be and why?

I'd pick Tonks. She'd be fun to work with and I doubt she's get mad if I *cough* made a mistake*cough*. She'd also be like a huge bouncy ball of energy, plus she's a talented witch, would be helpful.

Who would you least want to work with and why?

Snape. I still don't trust him. He's also a gouch which would make him miserable to work with. I prefer fun people. Also I'd be worried about what he was doing especialy with the Occulemency.

~X-Girl~

WOW!! A shiny new thread. Isn't it pretty?

Okay, on to the questions...

If you could work with one person in the Order (living so DD does't count...Sorry!), who would it be and why?

Well, Tonks is a great choice because she would keep the humor alive. I'm trying to think of someone else, but I'm drawing a blank at the moment. I guess I'll just keep my answer as Tonks. Sorry for the lack of originality.

Who would you least want to work with and why?


Well, seeing as how Mrs. Figg and Dung have already been spoken for, I won't repeat them. So, I guess I'll have to say Lupin. Only because he has to go and live/work among the werewolves trying to recruit them. I would say for you to see my previous post but since it's a new thread, you can't. So let's just say it has to do with a puddle on the ground.

A new thread?! Hooray! Congratulations Mooop for making it a whole three threads! Yay! I love you Mooop!

If you could work with one person in the Order (living so DD does't count...Sorry!), who would it be and why?
Dumbledore *looks up* Ohhh. Umm... Sirius Dang. I guess I would have to say Lupin. I think we would get along very well, he seems like he would be good to have with you too, he's very knowledgeable and heroic. It depends on the mission, but I would have full faith in him to protect me.

As you all said, Tonks would be great too. She has a bubbly personality, but I think that can be a bit of a draw back though... She gets distracted to easily.

Who would you least want to work with and why?
Hmm... I think Moody. I don't think he and I would work together very well. When we have our minds' set to something, we stick to it. If we disagree, that wouldn't work at all. Don't get me wrong, Moody is a great wizard, but I just think we'd bump heads too much.

It's just so clean and shiny in this new thread. *runs off to edit signature*

Good point that, Taylor! Just edited mine.

If you could work with one person in the Order (living so DD does't count...Sorry!), who would it be and why?
Dumbledore would have been fun to work with, I'm sure, but I don't think he'd have been my first choice anyway. Sirius would have been great fun too. But right, living Order members. Seeing as Lupin is, well, Lupin, he'd be my first choice. He's smart, interesting, and he's cool and calm under pressure. After him I think I'd like to work with McGonagall or Kingsley Shacklebolt. McGonagall because I'm a nerd and I'm sure we'd get along fine. Also, she's a powerful witch as she's showed. And I just can't help liking Kingsley. I tend to swoon around guys like him - he's calm, intelligent and kind, and that's just what one needs in a colleague, right?

And if Snape hadn't effectively evicted himself from the Order, I think I may have found it amusing to try to get him to talk to me while we're on duty together. It would be a fun challenge to try to befriend him, I think!

Who would you least want to work with and why?
Mundungus, no contest. Sneaky thief! But if I had to be a bit more creative... I think Mrs. Weasley. I like her and all, but she'd probably get on my nerves quickly if we hadn't got to know each other well enough yet. And Fleur, if she's in the Order. Can't think of worse company!

Glad to see Mooop is going on well again!

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Person i want to work with would be kingsley. he seems like a good worker
the prime minister said he got twice as much work done as other guys
hes definitely the type of person i would want to work with because he gets the job done

Some people i wouldn't want to work with, everyone said dung and figgy, but i wouldn't want to work with tonks she seems like she would be the person to get everyone in trouble also sometimes people think she is annoying. also i wouldn't want to work with lupin because hes working with the werewolves and i don't really want to become a werewolf

The person I would want to work with is... ummm... darn, i cant say dumbledore. Maybe Tonks? She is so cool! Ummm... Lupin? Mad eye Moody? All of those people would be cool to work with.
The person I would want to work with the least? Can I say Snape? If not, then...Mundungus? I dont trust Snape and Mundungus is a thief! Basically, you cant really trust any of them.

Yeah new thread. *jumps up and down*...Im so excited!
enough of that Ill get to the questions.

If you could work with one person in the Order (living so DD does't count...Sorry!), who would it be and why?

I think id like to work with Molly really Id like to be on the front line but she always does things on her own I think after taking care of seven children and all the members of the order she deserves a hand. If not her than Kingsley Shackelbolt...I like how effecent he is and I like getting things done in a timely manner we'd get along fine I think.

Who would you least want to work with and why?
I dont think I could work with Moody ...hes just a bit too paranoid. I guess he has reason if I had been locked in my own trunck Id be a bit paranoid but I havent been so It would only make me nervous. I just dont think I could stand his constant vigilance! Even in dark times you have to be able to see the light at the end of the tunel...do you know what I mean?

I would like to work with Lupin. There's so much more about him than i think JK has let us in on. Maybe i could get some first hand answers from our "furry" friend. He is such an intellegent man who is holding out on us.

I would not want to work with Dung. As it has been said before, He's not trustworthy. I hate working with people that i cant trust. i dont get anything done.

Okay, I have another question I would like to throw out there for everyone.

If you could recruit one person to join the Order who is currently not a member (excluding the Trio), who would it be and what contribution do you think they have that could help strengthen the Order or help them succeed against LV?

I'm not going to bother with asking who you would get rid of because I'm sure it would mainly be between Snape or Dung. However, if you want to contribute to this as well, go for it!

If you could recruit one person to join the Order who is currently not a member (excluding the Trio), who would it be and what contribution do you think they have that could help strengthen the Order or help them succeed against LV?


probibly flitwick
im pretty sure (because no one has said that he is in the order) that he isnt in the order. i think he can help recruit "little people" and he is a charms master so he must be pretty good in battle

the man is pretty much awesome. so that would be the one guy id try to get in the order

If you could recruit one person to join the Order who is currently not a member (excluding the Trio), who would it be and what contribution do you think they have that could help strengthen the Order or help them succeed against LV?
I would probably go with recruting Flitwick as well. FOr the reasons Justin said. (don't want to repeat.) Maybe Slughorn because he could help with potions for healing and courage or anything like that. He must also be somewhat talented on the battle field.

First question would be Kingsley Shacklbolt...he is just too awesome the way he modified Marriettas memory on the sly was so cool. He just strikes me as someone who has loads to teach but is not going to be as intense about it as say...Moody.

Least I would like to work with Molly. It may be just me but she is so over protective...I just don't deal well with that. I would have a difficult time not telling her off when she went on one of her rants about why such and such a job is too dangerous for so and so. I mean, everyone in the Order is in for the same reasons...to help Harry defeat Voldemort. It takes risk.

I have no idea at this point who I would recruit. I need to think about that some more. It needs to be someone who has a certain value and can fit in to the strategy of what the Orders' goals are. I'll get back to you on this one

If you could recruit one person to join the Order who is currently not a member (excluding the Trio), who would it be and what contribution do you think they have that could help strengthen the Order or help them succeed against LV?

I would recruit Firenze so that if Voldemort tried to get the centaurs to help him, then Firenze could try to convince them not to (like Lupin was doing with the werewolves). Firenze is also very wise and knows a lot about divination. The Order could use more members of different species. If other magical creatures saw that they were welcome, then they might be more inclined to join too.

If you could work with one person in the Order (living so DD does't count...Sorry!), who would it be and why?
Definitely, Moody, although he would probably hate me. I'm like Tonks, i'd probly joke around about his paranoid-ness. I'd have so much fun! lol... but i would also like to work with him because he really knows his stuff. Plus, he has so many cool dark detectors. I'd love to find out how all of them work. Also, he knows what its like to fight and he's so experienced, even though he's a bit paranoid, i'd say he knows the most about fighting dark wizards.


Who would you least want to work with and why?
Um... probably Lupin, but only because i wouldn't really be able to help him much. His main job is to get the werewolves against Fenrir Greyback and onto his side. Right? So, i wouldn't really get to do anything if i were with him, unless i got bitten right now, something far-fetched like that....


If you could recruit one person to join the Order who is currently not a member (excluding the Trio), who would it be and what contribution do you think they have that could help strengthen the Order or help them succeed against LV?
I would really want Madam Pomfrey. She's so good at curing ailnesses, in fact, she's never failed yet. She would be really useful to the Order. That would be helpful. I think she'd be an important part of the Order if she were to join.

Also, i'd want to recruit Ollivander, because it would be horrible if the other side got to him first. He's such a talented wand-maker, we need him on our side!!!!

If you could work with one person in the Order (living so DD does't count...Sorry!), who would it be and why?

I would most definately want to work with Tonks! She seems so fun and entertaining, so while working you would be able to be serious and alert, but still be able to have a good time while doing it.


Who would you least want to work with and why?

I'm going to have to go with Mrs. Figg like so many other people did. Being stuck on Privet Drive would get so boring, and if she tried showing me pictures of her cats I'd go mad (I mean, I love animals and all but staring at cat pictures would get pretty old )


If you could recruit one person to join the Order who is currently not a member (excluding the Trio), who would it be and what contribution do you think they have that could help strengthen the Order or help them succeed against LV?

Slughorn would probably be pretty useful. Since Snape is most likely unwelcome back to the meetings, a new potions master is going to be needed by the order!

Ooh! I just had a thought. Snape already knows where Grimmauld Place is. Isn't it possible that while the Order is working there doing important stuff Snape could sneak in and spy for LV (assuming he is loyal to LV, which I don't believe) Aw well.. thats for a different thread

If you could work with one person in the Order (living so DD does't count...Sorry!), who would it be and why?

Well, Sirius would be my first choice but seeing as he's..sniff sniff...passed away, I would probably work with Lupin. He seems to know a lot about the dark arts and how to conquer them. Plus he's nice, and he probably won't yell at you if you keep messing up. I also want to know how to do the Patronus charm, and he seems to be the master at that.

Who would you least want to work with and why?

Oh, that's super easy. Mungdungus (I hope I spelled that right) of course! He might have useful information, but he'll probably fall asleep in the middle of a lesson! And half the time he's drunk anyway.

If you could recruit one person to join the Order who is currently not a member (excluding the Trio), who would it be and what contribution do you think they have that could help strengthen the Order or help them succeed against LV?

I agree with ohmyHP on that one, I think Slughorn would probably be really useful, because he taught the younger Tom Riddle. And seeing as the adult version hasn't changed much, he would know all about Tom Riddle and what he likes and hates and stuff like that.

ohmyHP, that is a good theory on Snape being able to get into the Grimmauld Place. But they might find some other place to work because of that now. That might be important!

~Rachel

If you could recruit one person to join the Order who is currently not a member (excluding the Trio), who would it be and what contribution do you think they have that could help strengthen the Order or help them succeed against LV?

How about a stand-up-comedian. They could send him in to do a comedy routine to distract LV and the DE's so the Order and Harry can get into position without notice. The comedian would be shooting out various insults at each one in turn with laughter from the others. I'm not a comedian myself so I can't come up with good jokes, but it could be along the lines of: put the mask back on-your real face is scarier; if you're pure-blood, I'll eat my hat.

Or how about Lavendar Brown. She could go around snogging the DE's.

Okay, seriously...how about Moaning Myrtle. LV's the reason she is dead so I'm sure she would like to settle the score. She seems to be good at hiding in pipes so she might make a good spy for the Order. And since she is already dead, she couldn't get captured and killed. Hmmm... can ghosts get inducted into the Order? They would be a handy asset to have. I'm sure they will end up helping one way or another.

Nice one LittleRed you crack me up.

LV is the one that killed Moaning Mrytle? I never knew that! Ya, ghosts would be amazing to have int he order. But there must be a catch or something because I am sure Dumbledore would have deffinetly thought of that...

If you could work with one person in the Order (living so DD does't count...Sorry!), who would it be and why?

I'd work with Lupin. He could teach me a lot of new spells and stuff, and he'd do anything to help the Order. He's very loyal and considerate, and would probably risk his life to save me, so that's nice.

Who would you least want to work with and why?

I would least want to work with...Mundungus. He smokes a really smelly pipe and is always stealing things, so yeah. He also isn't exactly talkative and is extremely unreliable. (At least Mrs. Figgs has cake. And I love cats!)

Thanks!



LV is the one that opened the CoS which released the Basilisk when Myrtle was killed. So, if he hadn't opened the CoS, Myrtle would still be alive.



Ya...you're probably right. If the ghosts could have been of use, DD probably would have already recruited them. Oh well. Just a thought.

if you could work with one person in the order(living do DD doesn't count.....Sorry!), who would it be and why?

hmmmm..... well maybe i would work with snape because dumbledore trusted snape a lot and perhaps snape knows more then dumbledore. if i would work with him i would probobly know why dumbledore trusted snape soo much too.


who would you least want to work with?

wow! this one is really hard(not). its soo easy as to whom i would not want to work with. the person is Mundungus because he is really untrustworthy and nearly got harry killed and suspened from hogworts in book 5.

If you could recruit one person to join the Order who is currently not a member (excluding the Trio), who would it be and what contribution do you think they have that could help strengthen the Order or help them succeed against LV?

Hmm I'd recruit um this is a hard one. I'll take Neville. He's very determined and he's shaping up to be a very talented wizard. Plus he could do stuff with plants, like if they were poison or if there were plant cures I'd bet he'd know didn't he get an Outstanding in Herbalogy (sp?).

If you could work with one person in the order(living do DD doesn't count.....Sorry!), who would it be and why?

I would work with Mad-Eye Moody because I believe he could teach many survival and combat techniques that are either useful or unique, at least in the magical world (not entirely sure about actual survival instincts and things to know). I also think his eye would help with some things, if I asked him.

who would you least want to work with?

Like others have said, I wouldn't want to work with Snape. Not because of the mystery surrounding him but because of his attitude. He is interesting and powerful, of course, but his approach and jealousy, or whatever it is, would drive me crazy.

Ok so now I know why my email replies have stopped there's a new thread! ok good I'm back. Sorry I'll answer the questions later but...the movie...I saw it this morning and although the title is Order of the Phoenix the movie lacks...well the order? Others opinions, as I've saidi n other threads I dont want to say much more for those who haven't seen it but I'll keep a sharp eye in here for when others do do I can get your opinions. An amazing movie, I loved it, heaps better than GOF, and very accurate and well edited and compacted from such a large book. Kingsely when he appears is great, Dumbledore is back to the way he should be and Tonk's few interjections are good

Okay, I have another question. This might sound a little long winded, but please try to bear with me.

Under DD's orders, Harry isn't to tell anyone about the horcrux hunt except for Hermione and Ron. Do you think the Order will be able to assist Harry without having to be filled in on what they are doing, and if so, how? Or, do you think they will be a hindrance trying to stop them because they don't know what the Trio is up to?

May as well answer I'm still around its called "avoiding the cleaning"

Under DD's orders, Harry isn't to tell anyone about the horcrux hunt except for Hermione and Ron. Do you think the Order will be able to assist Harry without having to be filled in on what they are doing, and if so, how? Or, do you think they will be a hindrance trying to stop them because they don't know what the Trio is up to?

I would say yes most definately, the order have been around for a while and are extremely knowledgable, I'm sure Harry or Hermione could words some questions so that they would get accurate answers without causing suspicion, Ron could easily ask his parents, and Harry could pass almost any odd question as a question into his past, and was a way to know more about Voldie which is easily understandable. Sure there would be some limits to the knowledge he would get out of them but they are a very smart group of people, remember they all have various contacts and positions within the wizarding world. I also think that the penseive will play a rolei n the clues, imagine how many bottled memories Dumbledore has locked up?

So yes I think if they go about it in the right way they will get some answers, because I think if Harry didnt ask any questions of any kind that would cause more suspicion from the order.

Under DD's orders, Harry isn't to tell anyone about the horcrux hunt except for Hermione and Ron. Do you think the Order will be able to assist Harry without having to be filled in on what they are doing, and if so, how? Or, do you think they will be a hindrance trying to stop them because they don't know what the Trio is up to?

Yeah they could probably assit the trio only because they're filled with so many knowledgeable wizards and witches. And I agree with Drinotonks that Harry and Hermione could ask questions withoutgiving away why and Harry could ask really weird stuff.
I don't think the Order would try to stop Harry because McGonagall knows DD told him to do it even if she doesn't know what he's doing. Although I also think Harry ought to tell someone. They can use all the hellp they can get.

~X-Girl~

Oh yeah can anybody tell me how I get my name on the member list?

Under DD's orders, Harry isn't to tell anyone about the horcrux hunt except for Hermione and Ron. Do you think the Order will be able to assist Harry without having to be filled in on what they are doing, and if so, how? Or, do you think they will be a hindrance trying to stop them because they don't know what the Trio is up to?
I like your questions LittleRed they are inquisitvie. I agree with Drinotonks. The trio is very smart and like you said could ask about Harry's past or something small that would help.

I sort of forgot about the pensieve! don't know how i did though. I agree it could have important memories that DD didn't have time to share with Harry!

Thanks! I was afraid people wouldn't like them.

Under DD's orders, Harry isn't to tell anyone about the horcrux hunt except for Hermione and Ron. Do you think the Order will be able to assist Harry without having to be filled in on what they are doing, and if so, how? Or, do you think they will be a hindrance trying to stop them because they don't know what the Trio is up to?

I kind of think both scenarios will happen. Those like Lupin I think will be okay with the Trio going at it alone. Maybe even helping however he can. Others, like Mrs. Weasley, I think will present a problem by trying to stop them. They may even have to do things behind her back. I also wonder if the Order will send out someone to try and spy on the Trio to either make sure they aren't doing anything they shouldn't (like dangerous) or to make sure they stay safe and if they get into trouble to come and help them out.

I guess out of all the Order member, I see Lupin and Moody (maybe Tonks) as their strongest allies. The others might try to treat them like children wanting them to let the grownups handle it. Of course this is only because they don't know what the prophecy said nor about the horcruxes. I'm sure if they did, the Trio would have more help than they would like. Then again, the Order might tell them to let the Order themselves destroy the horcruxes which I'm sure is exactly what DD didn't want to happen.

~Oh for sure Mollywobbles is going to put up the biggest fight especially after he oldest son just got ravaged by Greyback. She is going to want to protect her "two" youngest boys. I agree that Lupin and Moody will be there strongest allies. They have both seen Harry in action, especially Lupin. He knows what the trio are capable of magically having taught them in third year.

~I want to throw this out there because in my mind Snape is still very much loyal to the Order. I want to suggest that he also knows about the Horcruxes. I believe DD would have had to tell him what exactly damaged his hand so badly so that Severus could properly treat it. This being the case, I think that Snape could very well find a way to communicate where the trio is going, what they may be doing, and how much danger they are in. He is an accomplished wizard and I think he is capable of letting the Order know how they can help the trio without making it seem like he is trying to harm Harry or the others.

In my mind he is deffinetly loyal to the Order. He just has to be! I agree totally with you Nevillesgirl, he could communicate with them but they only thing is...how will they learn to trust him again, especially Harry and the Order, how would they trust him again. Even if he did something to prove he was good Harry and Lupin most of the Order in fact still wouldn't trust him. I do though, they should have me in the Order!

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In my mind he is deffinetly loyal to the Order. He just has to be! I agree totally with you Nevillesgirl, he could communicate with them but they only thing is...how will they learn to trust him again, especially Harry and the Order, how would they trust him again. Even if he did something to prove he was good Harry and Lupin most of the Order in fact still wouldn't trust him. I do though, they should have me in the Order!
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~he he he...I think all of us should just be honorary inductees into the Order too Cobra! That is the question isnt it? How will Snape communicate these things without the Order or Harry knowing it is him? I know what you mean about them never trusting him again but if my suspicions are true and he is in fact the only other person besides the trio who knows about the horcruxes then he will be a vital part of Harry's success to defeating Voldemort.

How could Snape help Harry/The Order? I presume it is intended that we mean in hunting the horcruxes and/or major plots against the world. Well........

We know the Order will not trust Snape now. As such, if Severus is to help them (especially Harry), one of two things will have to happen. First, he will need to contact the Order without them knowing it is him. Since the Order has been so secretive in the past, I am unsure if that is possible. Second, Snape must have a contact within the Order who knows the truth and/or trusts Snape. I do not believe anyone knows the truth (except for the remote possibility of Lupin). So, Snape will need to get someone to trust him again. How is that possible?

He would have to prove that he is trustworthy. By some great act of kindness or mercy or whatever, Snape would have to get Harry to trust him. Maybe he could provide information on a plot against the Order or reveal that he already knows about the horcruxes or somehow save one of the trio. Whatever is would be, it would have to be something BIG to gain Harry's trust.

Personally, I don't think Snape will approach the Order itself or even care about the Order. I think his only concern will be Harry. And the only person Snape has to get to trust him is Harry because he is the one destined to bring down LV, not the Order. DD needed Snape in the position he is in for a reason, and I think it was to help Harry when the time was right. If Snape tried to contact anyone or send hidden warnings to anyone, it will be Harry. I can't see him bothering with a "middle man" by going through the Order first. Plus, if Snape does know about the horcruxes and has to get info to Harry about them, he can't very well tell the Order the message to pass on because they aren't supposed to know about the horcruxes.

Very true Red. Snape does not need to help the Order. If he knows about the horcuxes and tries to help Harry with them, he must contact Harry directly (exactly as you said).



But, if he helps Harry with the horcruxes, that would imply that he is good, right? If he is good, then he probably shares some of the same ideals as the Order. If Snape is good, do you think he would not care about the Order? I think he would. Snape could not abandon the Order or several others to death if he knew he could prevent it (as long as he was also able to maintain his cover).

Well, I should have worded that better. Sorry! I didn't mean that he didn't care about what might happen to them. I just don't think he cares about what the Order thinks about him. It's this that I think he could care less. He also knows that by helping Harry defeat LV, he is saving many lives. I'm sure his primary goal will be to help Harry save thousands before he tries to save one and risk many others. I'm sure if he was given the chance to save an Order member along the way without jeopardizing his mission, he will. However, if it will come as a risk, I think he would just view it as a minor casualty of war. He's not like Harry with his "saving people" thing. The Order will have to come second to Harry and his mission.

Under DD's orders, Harry isn't to tell anyone about the horcrux hunt except for Hermione and Ron. Do you think the Order will be able to assist Harry without having to be filled in on what they are doing, and if so, how? Or, do you think they will be a hindrance trying to stop them because they don't know what the Trio is up to?

I must start by apologizing in advance. I'm only on for a moment so I don't have a chance to read through your replies. If I repeat, I apologize.

This question goes so many ways for me that it's hard to pick just one! I'm leaning towards the concept that the Order would want to know what they were doing while helping Harry, and therefore them questioning might be a setback that wouldn't be worth their help.

Although at the same time, if they don't quetion at all, which I can see some of them doing, then they would be a great asset to Harry and his search.



Also, quick note, just wanted to drop this in to you all. Hope you like it fellow Order members!

~Ashley

Under DD's orders, Harry isn't to tell anyone about the horcrux hunt except for Hermione and Ron. Do you think the Order will be able to assist Harry without having to be filled in on what they are doing, and if so, how? Or, do you think they will be a hindrance trying to stop them because they don't know what the Trio is up to?

I think the Order would definetly want to know what Harry is doing so they can assist him. But it's definetly going to be hard to explain because of the whole horcrux thing. Maybe they'll help without asking questions but it's highly unlikely.

I don't think they will try to stop Harry because Harry is of age, he can do whatever he wants, and they understand that Harry has to be the one to defeat LV, not them. they can help, but in the end it's Harry and LV on their own.

Nice avatar Ashley! I'll change it when I get the chance.

~Rachel

Under DD's orders, Harry isn't to tell anyone about the horcrux hunt except for Hermione and Ron. Do you think the Order will be able to assist Harry without having to be filled in on what they are doing, and if so, how? Or, do you think they will be a hindrance trying to stop them because they don't know what the Trio is up to?

I hope that the Order will be willing to help Harry without having to know every little detail, but i think he can tell them somethings about his quest. For example, he can tell people that this is in accordance to the prophecy, and that it will help destroy Voldemort. Also, he'll probably tell that why he can't tell them. He's not just going to act like their stupid and they shouldn't know anything. I'll bet Harry will tell them that Dumbledore told him not to tell anyone besides Ron and Hermione.

The question about Snape was brought up earlier in the discussion. Whether he'd go back to the Order to help Harry, or just try and help Harry. I think that he will want to help Harry and he will not bother with the Order, because like he said in the 6th book Dumbledore has asked him to do an awful lot of things. I think he'll continue pretending to be a Death Eaters while really trying to help Harry. I don't think Snape will go back to the Order, or at least not right away. I think his main goals will be for Voldemort not to suspect him, and for him to remain loyal to DD and Harry.

Okay, I guess we need to add a new question seeing as how a few of us have already touched on the subject.

Do you think Snape will try to continue his membership in the Order and help them in some way, and if so, how? Or do you think he will not even bother with the Order and just try to help Harry, and if so, how? Also, how do you think the Order will respond to him if he does try to help and to prove he is good and only killed DD under his orders?

Congratulations Littlered you have once again asked such a difficult question that i really had to think about my answer before writing it!!

Do you think Snape will try to continue his membership in the Order and help them in some way, and if so, how? Or do you think he will not even bother with the Order and just try to help Harry, and if so, how? Also, how do you think the Order will respond to him if he does try to help and to prove he is good and only killed DD under his orders?

Okay well i think i'll just toy around with all of the possibilities.

If Snape does try to continue his membership in the Order and help them this is what i think will happen. Okay, first he'll have to convince the Order that he really is on there side which will be hard to do considering that he killed Dumbledore. But, if they accept him and he helps I think he'll pretty much do what he was doing for Dumbledore and continue as a spy.

If Snape does not ever bother with the Order and just tries to help Harry I think he'll help him with the Horcruxes. Also, he may put LV off track in finding Harry, so that he can have more time to destroy the Horcruxes. But he might just help Harry with the actual Horcruxes. If so, I believe since Snape knows a lot about LV he will be able to find out his sixth horcrux through a series of well thought out questions that in no way connects Snape in helping to foil the Dark Lord. Then I think since Snape is a more experienced wizard he will know how to destroy them, because I'm guessing that all of the horcruxes get destroyed in different ways.

If Snape does try to help the Order i think the members will respond differently when he tries to convince them he is good and only killed DD un his orders. I think Harry (if he's in the Order) will refuse to believe him and not want him to help. I think Lupin might give Snape the chance to explain but still be uneasy with him. I think Molly and Arthur will be unsure, because DD trusted him yet Snape killed DD. I think most of the Order will want to question DD's portrait to see if it really was his orders for DD to be killed.

Do you think Snape will try to continue his membership in the Order and help them in some way, and if so, how? Or do you think he will not even bother with the Order and just try to help Harry, and if so, how? Also, how do you think the Order will respond to him if he does try to help and to prove he is good and only killed DD under his orders?

I think the "killing" of DD is too dramatic for either SS or the order to get past. No matter what SS does, the order will automatically suspect him. I doubt seriously if any member of the order would even trust SS to speak/ communicate with him. Only if SS somehow performs a "good" act, like saving Harry again, will there be a crack in this wall between SS and the order. IMHO (In My Humble Opinion)

Do you think Snape will try to continue his membership in the Order and help them in some way, and if so, how? Or do you think he will not even bother with the Order and just try to help Harry, and if so, how? Also, how do you think the Order will respond to him if he does try to help and to prove he is good and only killed DD under his orders?
Well, I don't know theory of mine, I haven't really thought it through since it just popped into my head this second. Aberforth is in the Order right, and he is odd, I think it said in HBP or another book. therefore he could be... hmmm not sure how to put this, lets see... in the Order but still not too intelligent and would believe everything and Snape could get him to contact Harry and/or the Order. wow I don't really think that is true but it popped into my head so I posted it.

What I actually think will happen is that...Severus Snape will stay as a DE except sort of stalling and helping the Order and Harry without them actually knowing it. LV will also not know that what Severus is doing will effect him. And in like the final battle he will join the Order in teh fight instead of the DE's.

Do you think Snape will try to continue his membership in the Order and help them in some way, and if so, how? Or do you think he will not even bother with the Order and just try to help Harry, and if so, how? Also, how do you think the Order will respond to him if he does try to help and to prove he is good and only killed DD under his orders?

I'm not the only one who doesn't trust Snape am I?

Well to business.I do not think he will continue his membership since I still think he's evil. But if he was good I don't think he will contact the Order. They all still think he's evil and would probably turn him in to the Minestry (sp), though I dunno if that would matter he'd just break out. If he were good he'd just help Harry directly. If he tried to help like I said above the Order wouldn't trust him and would try to lock him up or kill him or something. No not kill they'd want his information but I don't think they'd trust him.

Do you think Snape will try to continue his membership in the Order and help them in some way, and if so, how? Or do you think he will not even bother with the Order and just try to help Harry, and if so, how? Also, how do you think the Order will respond to him if he does try to help and to prove he is good and only killed DD under his orders?

Ugh Snape, that little foul greasy haired, long nosed...ugly...person! I hate that dude!

In the end of HBP the Order already hated Snape, and even more so when Harry told them why DD trusted him. I really don't think they'll let him back in at all. Besides, now Snape has to pick a side anyway, and I think he'll choose LV's side, so there's no point in coming back.

Help Harry? *snorts* yeah RIGHT. That will never happen.

I don't think the Order will let him in at all but the problem is that he knows their headquarters, so if he's on LV's side their going to have to pick a new one.

If he IS good, (unllikely) then it's going to take A LOT of work for him to admit it and for the Order to trust him again.

Sorry for being so mean to Snape all you Snape loving fans!

~Rachel

Do you think Snape will try to continue his membership in the Order and help them in some way, and if so, how? Or do you think he will not even bother with the Order and just try to help Harry, and if so, how? Also, how do you think the Order will respond to him if he does try to help and to prove he is good and only killed DD under his orders?

I strongly believe that Severus will continue assisting the Order even though he's believed to be a Death Eater. I'm a strong believer that his crime committed against DD was permitted by Dumbledore under certain circumstances. (I'm not going to go into that now because you'd be getting a novel). I think that the Order will not respond to his helpful attmepts at first, but after some proof, they'll come around. And finally, I do think that Snape will help Harry at an unexpectant time. I have a hunch, but providing an explanation would be quite long winded.

I have a question.... or challenge rather. Please don't stop with this question though because it's rather interesting to read people's thoughts!



Tricky? Can't wait to see what you have to say!

~gasp! Shock at my Severus being talked about that way...lol. Don't worry about it. He is abosolutely foul, greasy haired and long-nosed!

~Why not? Through out the books series Severus has managed to help out Harry in some way, shape or form. This is not the topic to discuss all of them but I do think that Snape helping Harry is a very real possibility in Book 7. The problem is how to do it.

Do you think Snape will try to continue his membership in the Order and help them in some way, and if so, how? Or do you think he will not even bother with the Order and just try to help Harry, and if so, how? Also, how do you think the Order will respond to him if he does try to help and to prove he is good and only killed DD under his orders?

~I dont know about Severus trying to continue his membership with the Order in such a public fashion as in OOTP when he was seen at Headquarters at meetings and such. Since the Order believes him traitorous that will be impossible. I do believe that there may be someone that he can correspond with that can help him . Aberforth...possibly Remus-this one is a long shot but I did notice how they coexisted and Severus even helped him brew the Wolfsbane Potion while Remus was a professor at Hogwarts...he can't be all bad.
So my idea is that Snape will continue as in inconspicuous member of the Order and work kind of behind the scenes to advance DD's dream of getting rid of Voldemort.

~Nevillesgirl