Upon watching the interview on the Prisoner of Azkaban DVD with J.K. Rowling and Alfonso Cuarón, my ears caught a little something Rowling said during the interview (from VTM news archive, the transcript):



Could it possibly be that Cuaron may have incorporated things that were not in the book that may also foreshadow events? If so, what information ore events could Rowling be talking about?

The only thing I think about, if it is an event not mentioned in the book, is the bringing up of Lily and her being the only one to help Lupin in the darkest times. Also, I noticed how Lupin sees Harry's eyes first and comparitively, Sirius says, "you look just like your father". Or perhaps Buckbeak will play an important role? Rowling and Cuaron conversed about how Cuaron made Buckbeak come alive in the movie, so there's a chance.

Thoughts? Comments?

I was intrigued incredibly by that interview, trying to find the differences between the movie and the book.

The part about how Remus was able to recognize Lily's eyes more than James' appearance definitely had to mean something.

I'm going to watch the movie again (which shall be quite fun) and look for some other stuff.

Good for you to start this topic, Joe!!

Well, here's my two-cents worth...

Yeah guys, good points....I haven't watched the interview yet myself so I didn't know that JKR had said that...I'd have watched the movie a bit closer if I'd known about it!! Ah well, looks like tonight's viewing is sorted out then, huh?

But yes, I think it's probably something along those lines...either the Lily's eyes things (a topic extensively explored in the SPELL thread incidentally, if you're interested) or Sirius' line at the end there...

Although I have to say that when I watched PoA, being the huge Gary Oldman fan I am, I must have absorbed every single moment that deliciously sexy man was on the screen, and I actually teared up at a few points, knowing what was coming for him.... ....which was the reason that the line at the end there that Zyra quoted made me think too. I remember thinking, 'Aw....I hope Harry remembers this moment when Sirius...ya know... **bawls like a baby**

**sniff** Sorry...recovered now... But you get the point......perhaps there is something foreshadowed in these respects...because I think it's pretty much a given that 'love' is going to defeat Voldemort...corny as that may sound, but I'm sure JKR has something up her sleeve that'll just blow us all away and we just won't have seen it coming.

But Sirius undoubtedly died for a reason....then again though, other people are set to die in the next books, aren't they? So it isn't necessarily that Sirius will be the only death to have an emotional impact on Harry. What if it's Dean or Seamus that gets it? Or Bill or Charlie or someone else like that? So perhaps JKR's comments weren't merely foreshadowing things related to someone's death....perhaps it was something else entirely.

I don't know...I'll take another look tonight and let you know tomorrow if anything else jumps out at me......

I know everyone is probably just itching to mention the relationship/lack thereof portrayed between R/Hr or H/Hr, depending on your point of view, but please don't.....as I've said elsewhere today, Remus is VERY cranky and VERY hungry....he didn't get much to eat during the full moon last week......

Hmm. I have no idea if this is important or not, but why not say something anyway?

Okay, when putting the time-turner scene in slow motion, you manage to catch a few things. First, Snape helps a conscious Ron into the infirmary and sets him down, watching as the medi-witch bandages up his leg. Then, he disappears (as in flickers away) as Remus, Albus, and Filch enter, crowding around Ron's bed. Suddenly Snape appears again (as in flickers) in view by Ron's bed again and joins the three's conversation. Dumbledore and Filch leave, while Remus (with a sling around his arm) talks to Ron a bit, then leaves, as well. Snape stays for a few minutes (well, in that time), observing Ron, then exits.

I'm not entirely sure if the scene is supposed to go backwards or not.

wow you guys have never heard sayings about the people who we love will always be in our hearts? i mean c'mon now guys! can you read into it a little MORE? lol *sarcastic by the way*

MOD EDIT : Watch the tone please, Luke. People are entitled to express their opinions just as you are free to express yours - without the need for sarcasm.

I think Cuarón additions in PoA are vey significant to future HP books. because they are emotional. Well, about this line:

"It's cruel that I spent so much time with James and Lily and you so little. But know this, the ones that love us never really leave us. And you can always find them....in here'

Knowing Sirius died, this line sounds more sad. Still dont know if this means Sirius will come back

I remember reading somewhere that Jo watched POA movie and saw something foreshadowed in it that "gave her chills". It had something to do with HBP, I know that much, but don't really know what it was. Any ideas? I couldn't decide where this post should go, so MODS, redirect me if necessary.

Actually, I was just watching the PoA movie after I read this post, and I bet you anything it was the mist caused by the dementors. You remember all those scenes where everything freezes when a dementor is near, and in HBP there's said to be a mist all over the place? It seems to fit, don't you think?

Mmm...my memory is a little hazy because I had tears in my eyes as I read it and I was just about ready to punch someone when I trawled through that interview JKR gave to *insert appropriate adjective here* Emerson, but I'm pretty sure I recollect her saying something about the parts that made her feel certain things as she wrote them. I don't have the heart (or the stomach) to venture near that site again, but for those with stronger constitutions than I, you can find the interview here.

No, the interview where she said it was in the past . Like right after POA came out. I will have to sort through her quotes section one day and find it.

Remember in the begining when Harry is leaving the dursley's? He comes to the "fork" in the road? I always wondered if that ment he would decide on good/bad way to go. But maybe I will watch it agian and try and pay attention since I have a bit more info this time.

Ah, right...I'm with you.

Erm...couldn't be the ring Malfoy was wearing, maybe? A pretty big deal was made about that at the time. *shrugs* It's the only thing I can think of off hand....or maybe Sirius' saying about you can always find the people you love in your heart or something...that might make sense if Harry really is a Horcrux. I dunno though...I'm clearly not too good at the theorising thing...

*chuckles* Mate, you *so* don't want to go there....

If you're really interested, PM me and I'll tell you.

I remember seeing that interview bit, too. At the time, my first thought was the stuff between Ron and Hermione- the 'do you want to move a bit closer' at the shrieking shack, and where she grabs Ron's hand in the Hippogrif paddock. I don't think those specific things happen in the book but we all knew that's where JK was going (well, except some of the shippers, anyways).... but I think I will have to watch the movie again and see if I can find anything else now.

I don't think it has anything to do with ships... JKR thought she made it clear about R/HR... so it wouldn't really give her "chills"... I'm gonna have to go rent POA and watch it carefully, but good topic!

You are right- JK made it abundantly clear right from book 1 that it would be R/Hr, but there are people who were hoping otherwise.... but I just had another thought.... remember when lupin goes wolfie, and snape jumps in front of the trio, apparently to protect them??? That seems a bit out of place, considering what we know up to this point... and even more after hbp. I have yet to decide about the whole 'is Snape evil/just pretending' issue, but maybe there is a clue here.... if that's it, it would certainly explain the chills...

very good question... i agree with most of the posts here, but cant decide which one could give the author "chills"...wonder if we ever find out....

Are you suggesting coconuts migrate?

is that from "the holy grail"?

Fleur Delacoure-- Yes, it is from Monty Python and the Holy Grail

I agree that Snape protecting the trio probably has something to do with it... but I still plan on renting POA and investigating!

Ya, the way the snape thing appeared in the movie, it seemed like a very automatic reaction, as though he would never have considered doing anything else... wouldn't a bad guy have at least hesitated more and considered the options of self-preservation versus decieving appearances? That's what made me think of it in the first place... I'd really like to hear what else people might think it is though. I'm sure there's lots of other details that could be telling.

I think there was a scene in POA where Buckbeak attacks Prof. Lupin in the Forbidden Forest just as the werewolf was to attack Harry and Hermione. There is a scene exactly like this one in HBP...with Prof Snape and Harry...

Hmm... I think I may know the reason Jk had chills when she was watching POA. She said some of it foreshadowed future events and I think she may have been talking about the likelyhood that Harry is a Horcrux.

If you think about it, Jk was watching her proxy child being hunted relentlessly by the Dementors in this film because it made good cinema. But why were the Dementors so interested in Harry particularly over evryone else... because he is unique, he carrys two souls within him unlike everyone else who only have one. To a Dementor Harry would appear a gourmet delight, a special treat that they certainly to greedily persue.

I think the excuse because Harry has had a tragic past is a bit lame, look at Lupin for tragic pasts and they dont bother him. No. I definately think Jk was watching the Dementors attacking Harry and shuddering because she knows the real reason why they are so interested in him.

What do you think?

Razzberry2, that could be it I really hopee that Harry is not a Horcruz. It makes sense though, even more than the Snape angle. That would be more of a book 7 thing, i think, unless book 6 is still foreshadowing it...i don't know, I am so confused!

Don't ask me where I read it because I don't remember, but I saw that JK said Lupin's conversation with Harry about Lily'd kindness would crop up in the later books, though this was coincidental.

Not sure about the 'shivers' though - possibly moving towards the theory of the dementor's mist. How on Earth do they breed anyway?

This is why I started this thread, I knew you guys would catch on to things I never would have thought of. I really need to find that quote...

Anyways, I like the idea someone said about Snape jumping infront of the kids. Now that you mention it, when I watched that part I always get a bit giddy because it shows a *caring, heroic* Snape. But, I must say, it very well could be something he does in the lasy book too. But this time not just agianst a wereworlf. The reason I like this idea is that he had the perfect oportunity to a.) get rid of Harry, b.) blame Lupin for it, c.) Come off the hero afterwards. he latter he did, but he almost seemed to jum in the middle, not even thinking. That would give me shivers. Of course...everything about Snape gives me shivers...

You know Razz, I had not read that particular theory about why dementors were going after Harry. You certainly swayed me into that little category, That Harry could be a Horcrux. It WOULD make me shiver to know the real reason they were going after him with such a passion. Hmmm, nice ideas. More to ponder.

Here's the quote I think you were looking for, Snapelover:

USAToday Article

Doesn't seem like it's too revealing though

I concur with the theory about Snape protecting the trio. If Ron and Hermione go along with Harry on his eminent quest in book 7, I could definitely see Snape putting his life on the line for them again when they come across Death Eaters or Voldemort. Thus showing on which side Snape truly lies.

I seem to recall Snape telling Bellatrix in HBP that he didn't come to LV's aid because he thought him to be dead, or didn't want his help.

Perhaps after he found that LV had returned in GoF, he thought to join with him again. But up untill that point he was on Dumbledore's side, which would explain why he protected the trio. At the moment he was on the good side, but switched at the end of GoF.

maybe its in the movie sirius says that its cruel that he spent alot of time with james and lilly but so little time with him , befor he leaves on buckbeak and in Hbp when dd tels harry the same thing

Quote:
Interview with David Heyman, Steve Kloves, Mark Radcliffe, Alfonso Cuaron, and Jo Rowling,
Prisoner of Azkaban DVD "Extra," November 23, 2004

Jo Rowling: Alfonso had good intuition about what would and wouldn't work. He's put things in the film that, without knowing it, foreshadow things that are going to happen in the final two books. So I really got goosebumps when I saw a couple of those things, and I thought people are going to look back on the film and think those were put in deliberately as clues.

Te other scene was the one Sirius told Harry: “It is cruel how much time I could spend with (James and Lilly) and you so little”. Dumbledore tells something very similar to Harry: “It was cruel… that you and Sirius had such a short time together”

it's a great quote, it proves there must be a few scenes from the movie which foreshadow books 6 and 7, so what's the biggest change? Snape protecting the trio!

When DD is giving his begining of the year speech, he says something to the effect of "happiness can be found even in the darkest of times, if one only remembers to turn on the light" It sounded to me like he could be talking about Inferi (sp?) right there. Or it sounds like he could be anyway. Maybe thats one of the things Rowling was talking about?

*HBP spoiler*

I was watching Prisoner for.. erm.. 38472 time, and there was a dialogue in the scene right after the quiddich (it is when Harry wakes up in a hospital)

FRED:

Peaky? What d'you expect him to
look like? He fell fifty feet.


GEORGE:

Yeah, c'mon, Ron. We'll walk you
off the Astronomy Tower and see
how you come out looking.


And I was like wow, that really is something we already know from the 6th book. yay!

But you should consider - there are at least two things that are clues. Guess, we won't find all of them out until the final book is released, because how the hell could we guess about Dumbledore?

wow well done kiru biru!

That could be it IF Curaon added that line. But if it's part of the script JK may be talking about something else.

Yeah..well done Kiru Biru!

I think what sticks in my mind is that Lupin says to Harry that his mother could see the good in people, especially when they had trouble seeing it in themselves.

I don't have a copy of PoA (yet, Ygraine is sending me a British version! -WooT!), but I don't think Lupin says that to Harry in the book--only the movie.

Makes me wonder what else Lily did, because she isn't talked of all that much. What people would she have seen the good in? Lupin? Snape?

I also like the reference some have made to Snape protecting the kids from Lupin the werewolf.

Something that I've always thought (or hoped) was one of those 'foreshadowings' happened while Lupin was teaching the class about boggarts. Something happens there in the movie that is different from the book--first up is Neville, and the boggart turns into Snape. Next up is Ron, and we see the boggart/Snape turn into a spider. That isn't the order of events in the book.

I like to think that Snape is some kind of spider animagus. There are a few other things around in the books that could support this, and it would lead to some interesting possibilities for book seven...

And I swear that somewhere in an interview with JKR she joked about how the bridge scene in PoA, with Lupin and Harry, was almost too revealing, or something along those lines...I searched and searched to find where I had read it but couldn't find it. Maybe someone else has read it?