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For Harry to complete the prophecy, He will have to kill voldy... but who else will he kill along the way? Harry has said that if he see's snape along the way... he will kill him.

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'And if i ever meet Severus Snape along the way' he added ' so much the better for me, so much the worse for him'


So that would make Voldy and Snape [if he can] but who else?
Heres a List, Say Yes or No.. With Supporting reasons.

1. Voldemort
2. Draco Malfoy
3. Lucius Malfoy
4. Narcissa Malfoy
5. Bellatrix Lestrange
6. Fenrir Greyback
7. Snape
8.Crabbe/Goyle's Dads
9. R.A.B
10. Wormtail
11. Inferni [I Dunno If That Counts As Killing]
12. Giants/House Elfs or any other Animal
13. Amycus or Alecto [Death eaters from HBP]
14. Lupin As A Werewolf
15. Someone He Knows Who Is Under The Imperius Curse
Fury
Well, he's definately gonna kill Voldy, but im not sure about snape. Im guessing snape will side with the good side but will probably get killed by Lucious for "betraying the death eaters". Harry will kill a few death eaters, and i think Neville is gonna kill Lestrange. But back to harry i think he might kill that other werewolf ( i forgot his name, but he was in HBP )
Harry Will Survive
i think you mean fenrir greyback...
in my opinion he will kill:

Malfoy, Voldy, Narcissa Malfoy, and Greyback.

Maybe a few other death eaters smile.gif
It might be a problem being able to cast Avada Kedavra tho...
Kisara
I think there is the possibility that he may kill:
1. Voldemort (duh)
2. Snape
3. Bellatrix
4. Kreacher
5. Wormtail
6. Narcissa
7. Fenrir
8. Draco...maybe?
9. Other Death Eaters
10. R.A.B.
Fury
QUOTE(Kisara @ Jul 16 2007, 09:13 PM) [snapback]413548[/snapback]

I think there is the possibility that he may kill:
1. Voldemort (duh)
2. Snape
3. Bellatrix
4. Kreacher
5. Wormtail
6. Narcissa
7. Fenrir
8. Draco...maybe?
9. Other Death Eaters
10. R.A.B.

R.A.B. Is already dead, i think

Yes, it was Greyback. Thank you smile.gif
Harry Will Survive
R.A.B I doubt... he/she is trying to destroy the horcrux's along with harry... and he'll need all the help he could get. And i beleive personally they are already dead.

And i also doubt Kreature lol... Hermione would have a cow...

I agree with Fury that Neville will kill Lestrange.
ana123
QUOTE(Kisara @ Jul 16 2007, 06:13 PM) [snapback]413548[/snapback]

I think there is the possibility that he may kill:
1. Voldemort (duh)
2. Snape
3. Bellatrix
4. Kreacher
5. Wormtail
6. Narcissa
7. Fenrir
8. Draco...maybe?
9. Other Death Eaters
10. R.A.B.

1. - i agree. totally
2. - as many others, i believe that Snape will end up on the good side and possibly die to save Harry. I don't see Harry murduring Snape
3. - I don't think tht Harry will kill Belatrix. Neville probably will, but not Harry
4. - hmm... never thought of that... maybe... but i think Hermione won't let Harry kill a house elf
5. - Since wormtail's life debt to harry will come in play, i think he will die, but not fromHarry's hand
6. - i doubt it
7. - yeah that seems likely. Or maybe Lupin will kill him? hmm...
8. - nah, don't think so, i think Draco will end up on the good side just like Snape
9. - well yeah, though maybe not
10. - i believe he's already dead. If he isn't - why would Harry kill someone who tries to destroy Voldemort's horcruxes??? Just like in that saying - the enemy of my enemy is my friend smile.gif
Harry Will Survive
I like the idea of Lupin killing Greyback.. That would be cool.
Im going to edit the post to add a list of people..

Im gunna be a loser and do my own survey x]

1. Voldemort - Yes, it will be a long battle but harry will be victorious.
2. Draco Malfoy - If He Has The Chance... He will Try.
3. Lucius Malfoy - No.. i dont personally think he will get out of azkaban.
4. Narcissa Malfoy - Yes, He will kill her as Neville is fighting lestrange.
5. Bellatrix Lestrange - No, I think Neville will fight her... but im not sure if he has it in him to use Avada Kedavra.
6. Fenrir Greyback - No, i like the idea lupin kills him.
7. Snape - Yes, i think he will kill him at the last battle before he fights Voldy.
8.Crabbe/Goyle's Dads - They are known Death eaters... but havent really faught much..so no.
9. R.A.B - I beleive they will be already dead.
10. Wormtail - No, he needs his favour first.
11. Inferni [I Dunno If That Counts As Killing] - Yes he will need to.
12. Giants/House Elfs or any other Animal - No... Hermione wouldnt let him.
13. Amycus or Alecto [Death eaters from HBP] - I dont think he would bother.
14. Lumis As A Werewolf - I think it would be a really good part to see Lupin as a Werewolf trying to attack harry and he would be forced to kill him.
15. Someone He Knows Who Is Under The Imperius Curse - I hope it doesnt come down to that.
ana123
QUOTE(Harry Will Survive @ Jul 16 2007, 05:55 PM) [snapback]413533[/snapback]

For Harry to complete the prophecy, He will have to kill voldy... but who else will he kill along the way? Harry has said that if he see's snape along the way... he will kill him.

So that would make Voldy and Snape [if he can] but who else?
Heres a List, Say Yes or No.. With Supporting reasons.

1. Voldemort
2. Draco Malfoy
3. Lucius Malfoy
4. Narcissa Malfoy
5. Bellatrix Lestrange
6. Fenrir Greyback
7. Snape
8.Crabbe/Goyle's Dads
9. R.A.B
10. Wormtail
11. Inferni [I Dunno If That Counts As Killing]
12. Giants/House Elfs or any other Animal
13. Amycus or Alecto [Death eaters from HBP]
14. Lumis As A Werewolf
15. Someone He Knows Who Is Under The Imperius Curse



1. - yes, duh biggrin.gif
2. - no, i think Draco will end up on the good side
3. - hmm... gotta think about that one
4. - i doubt it
5. - i think Neville will get rid of her
6. - maybe Lupin will kill him? seems likely
7. - no...i think Snape is on the good side
8. - no, but i think he'll capture them and turn them in to the ministry in the end
9. - I believe he's already dead but if he isnt - he would be on Harry's side
10. - nah, Wormtail will probably sacrifise his life for Harry
11. - naw... he might fight them off with fire, but.. plus - they arent really alive
12. - no, Harry isn't that violent, is he?
13. - no... same goes here as for Crabbe and Goyle
14. - umm im not sure wht u r talking about
15. - no i doubt it if he knows they are under the imperius curse - Harry wouldn't kill the inocent people
Harry Will Survive
Clearing up the Lupin as a werewolf..
Without wolfsbane potion he is uncontrollable... if lumis tried to attack harry while he was a werewolf do you think Harry would kill him?
ana123
umm do you mean Lupin? If you do - i doubt it Harry would kill Lupin. Maybe stun him, but not kill. That way he'll still stop him but won't have to murder someone who's on his side
Harry Will Survive
Thanks lol, im not really sure what i was thinking..
Lupin is obvs what i meant.
Amyrat151
Interesting thread, but I highly doubt Harry's going to kill anyone but Voldermort. I'm not sure he would even been able to proform the Killing curse.
1. Voldemort, that's a given.
2. Draco Malfoy, I think that Draco is likely to die, but not by the hands of Harry. Couple of scenerios come to mind. 1) Draco is killed by his fellow Death Eaters, if he's dumb enough to run from Voldermort after being unable to perform his duty, they'll find him and kill him. 2) if he goes to the Order for protection they'll use his information then keep him as a hostage. Why hostage, because he can't be trusted. I doubt he'd go to them because of how proud he is. I guess it's a question of what he values more, his pride or his life. That's really the only thing I can see happening to him. No matter, I can't see Harry killing him
3. Lucius Malfoy, since he's in Azkaban...if he gets out I don't think Harry would spend much time on him in getting to Voldermort unless he has to kill him. I see one of the Wesleys as being more likely to do him in.
4. Narcissa Malfoy, she's not a Death Eater, so I don't see her in the fighting. Again, Death Eaters more likely to kill her than Harry or any of the Order.
5. Bellatrix Lestrange, this fight belongs to Neville, no question.
6. Fenrir Greyback, I don't think he's done enough to Harry to for Harry to kill him. Lupin's more likely...or Tonks, but not Harry.
7. Snape, it's all a question of who's side Snape is on. I think that it's likely that Harry will kill him, the only real possibilty other than Voldermort. But I think Lupin could take him out too, though. If he is evil.
8.Crabbe/Goyle's Dads, not imporant enough to get killed by Harry himself
9. R.A.B, already dead
10. Wormtail, I think he's likely to die because of Harry, but not at his hands. The life debt thing.
11. Inferni [I Dunno If That Counts As Killing], it's likely slaying vampires...or more like bashing the brains of vombies, it doesn't really count as killing I think, since they're already dead.
12. Giants/House Elfs or any other Animal, Hermione would stop him with the elfs, about the Giants, I don't know, I don't think Harry could without help from others.
13. Amycus or Alecto [Death eaters from HBP] not imporant enough
14. Lumis As A Werewolf, card was played in PoA, I don't see this happening
15. Someone He Knows Who Is Under The Imperius Curse, no not unless he really had to.
Harry Will Survive
Very well thought out answers smile.gif
i agree with most of it... expecially that harry will have trouble casting it... Dumbledore said that to malfoy before he was killed... that it was harder than it was thought to the innocent. But for the same reason i doubt Neville will be able to kill bellatrix... hes just not good enough of a wizard.
aberforth_rocks_my_socks
I really hope Neville some how finds a way to do to Bella what she did to his parents. I don't think Neville is anywhere near powerful enough to drive someone insane with magic but it would be much cooler than him just killing her.

I also really really want Arthur to kill Lucious. The entire serious Lucious has been tormenting Arthur and his entire family. It just seems to fit.

I don't know how much this applies to this thread but I didn't know where else to bring it up. Everyone seems to be looking this as a two team fight, OOTP vs DE. What about the ministry? I know after finding out that LV really was back the ministry isn't openly against the OOTP or anything but they definately do not get along well. I don't think the ministry would outright fight the OOTP or anything but what if Rufus steps in and stops the OOTP from getting to LV or something big like that just because he wants the glory. He does seem like the kind of guy that wants to get all the glory for himself. I kind of hope Scrimgeour dies too.
Harry Will Survive
I kind of Classify it as:

Death eaters Vs Aurors and the order. It wasnt before because the order wasnt trusted. but now in the seventh everyone can trust the order because they normally turn out right in the end.

But the neville comment would be better suited to my other topic

[Neville vs Lestrange one]
sockr24
i dont think that harry will ever kill. he has love and i think that because of it he will be unable to kill. dumbledore did say there were things worse than death. what could they be? losing your soul to a dementor? being tortured into insanity? i think he will find out what those things are and thats how he will defeat voldemort just as dumbledore defeated grindelwald. we never know if dumbledore actually killed him or just did something else. i think that whatever DD did harry will do to voldemort.
Harry Will Survive
I dunno, like the Prophecy says:

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Neither can live while the other survives


so harry HAS to kill or be killed.
Right?
aberforth_rocks_my_socks
QUOTE(sockr24 @ Jul 16 2007, 10:53 PM) [snapback]413704[/snapback]

i dont think that harry will ever kill. he has love and i think that because of it he will be unable to kill. dumbledore did say there were things worse than death. what could they be? losing your soul to a dementor? being tortured into insanity? i think he will find out what those things are and thats how he will defeat voldemort just as dumbledore defeated grindelwald. we never know if dumbledore actually killed him or just did something else. i think that whatever DD did harry will do to voldemort.

Good point. I really wish I had the first book with me to see exactly what word it uses on the chocolate frog card but I know its something along the lines of vanquished or defeated or something like that. It actually seems to make it clear that DD did not kill him. I like your idea that somehow Harry will do the same to LV. And if someone has SS/PS on them please check to see what the exact word is because I am dying to remember it now.
Harry Will Survive
i dont remember what you guys are talking about... havent read the first book in probs 5-6 years.. but i personally think Harry will Kill..

When you find the word your looking for please tell me. im now Curious x]
aberforth_rocks_my_socks
I couldn't help it I had to go find my book and look it up. I was right it uses the word defeat.

"Dumbledore is particularly famous for his defeat of the dark wizard Grindelwald in 1945..."

Anybody else think its slightly odd that he defeated him in the year WWII ended and Grindelwald definately looks like a German name. I never really noticed that before
Harry Will Survive
Thats interesting lol...
Im sure she wrote it that way.. defs sounds like JKR.
So if he ' Defeated ' Him... maybe he stupefied him or used a paralyzing spell and then he was locked away in azkaban..

i doubt they would let somone be taken to azkaban now... without dementors to keep them in.
aberforth_rocks_my_socks
I don't think DD was just refering to azkaban when he told LV there are worse things than death at least I hope he was refering to something much cooler and deeper than that, than we will find out in a few more days. I really can't come up with any cool theories of what he could have been talking about off the top of my head but i'm sure someone else will have some theories.
Harry Will Survive
JKR's theory is the only one that really matters x]
ive already pre-ordered the book.
Anyways, were getting off topic.. x\
alexis marie
I think Harry is going to kill Voldemort.
But I do not, under any circumstances, think that he will use Avada Kedavra.

You have to feel complete hate in order to do that spell and kill someone. I think the fact that Harry's greatest weapon is his ability to love means that he will not be stooping to Voldemort's level and using hate to defeat another.

Anyways, killing Voldy with Avada Kedavra seems kind of boring, since it is a spell that kills instantly. I think JKR will think of a much cooler way for Harry to take down Voldemort.

I don't know if I think he will kill anyone else, although I think several of the death eaters will die, but maybe at the hands of others (or Snape wink.gif ).
Harry Will Survive
hmm... i didnt think so many people would be against harry killing at all. Im not sure what other way harry could kill voldy... Voldy is a much more accomplished wizard so i really think that is the only way.

Ahaha, i like the idea of Arthur killing lucius.
i really dont think that it will happen tho..
Arthur wont use Avada Kedravra... hes not the right kind of person.
Or a good enough wizard.
aberforth_rocks_my_socks
Where did you get the idea that Arthur isn't a very good wizard? I don't think it says that anywhere in the books and based off of the skill of all of his children you would think that he must be at least a decent wizard to pass on genetics like that. I really don't know where it says that he isn't a very good wizard. Please enlighten me
Harry Will Survive
Well... i meant in a general view. He isnt a good wizard compared to others around him...
would you not agree that Arthur would not be able to Kill somone using Avada Kedavra?


Thats not the type of person he is.
aberforth_rocks_my_socks
QUOTE(Harry Will Survive @ Jul 17 2007, 01:02 PM) [snapback]414142[/snapback]

Well... i meant in a general view. He isnt a good wizard compared to others around him...
would you not agree that Arthur would not be able to Kill somone using Avada Kedavra?


Thats not the type of person he is.

I would agree that he is not the type of person to use it but I would never agree that he is not a good enough wizard. He is definately a strong enough wizard to do it but we know he's the kind of person that never would.
Harry Will Survive
hmmm... well i personally never got the idea that he was a great wizard or anything.. i suppose he does work for the ministry.. oh well. You probably right, but i still dont think he would be able to produce an ' Avada Kedavra ' because he wouldnt have enough hate inside of him. ANYWAYS > Back to the original topic x]
BomChickaWowWow
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Anyways, killing Voldy with Avada Kedavra seems kind of boring, since it is a spell that kills instantly. I think JKR will think of a much cooler way for Harry to take down Voldemort.


I absolutely, indefinitely, totally, utterly, entirely, unquestionably agree with you. I reckon that Voldemort and Harry will have a showdown in the department of mysteries, and Voldemort will be destroyes in the end by the power that is behind that secretive, mysterious door which contains love or something
Harry Will Survive
I dont think it will go back into the Dept of Mysteries... it would be too much like the battle in the 5th book. I think it will be at.. One of the Graveyards or somewhere random.. maybe privet drive, maybe Godrics Hollow



Who knows...
Harry Will Survive
Anywaysssss.... Where getting way off topic.
Please stay on topic if your going to reply everyone biggrin.gif
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