Is it just me or is their a really bads typo on page 503 of the goblet of fire. I mean it seems that Fudge and Dumbledore are talking about the dissaperance of Mr Crouch and then it suddenly goes "Dumbledore come" said crouch angrily.But itcant be coz Mr Crouch isnt there. Mayb im just padantic but it seems a pretty basic error for an editor to miss.

Yeah, that's definitely an error- but corrected in later versions.

in the books it says that under aged wizards arent allowed to do magic outside of school no matter what the spell but in the first book hermonie fixes harrys glasses on the train and in the second book she fixes them again in diagon alley if there not allowed to use magic outside of school why doesnt she get in trouble for it

Wow......that's true.

But that only happened in the movie....but in CoS Harry did state that he wasn't allowed to do magic out of school......hmm....

hehehe..... yeh how come harry gets in trouble for everything and hermione gets away with everything, no fair!!!

Maybe because Harry's using bigger spells?

magic is magic no matter what. hermione is underaged and she did magic

In the 1st book technically Hermiony was not a Hogwarts student while on the train before the 1st year. In book 4 on the campsite before the Quiditch tournament Harry even sees babies performing magic, with a wand.

She still has done it on many other occasions though......I think the rule only applies to doing magic in front of muggles. In Diagon Alley (movie scene) they were with all wizards.

The ministry know instanly that magic is performed but not by who. In de CoS harry was accused and not Dobby.

True, but then that would still apply to Hermione. No one got blamed for her doing magic.

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She still has done it on many other occasions though......I think the rule only applies to doing magic in front of muggles. In Diagon Alley (movie scene) they were with all wizards.

that would make more sense as to why she never got in trouble.

I just read the chapter where they're on the train and the Dementor comes and they're all worried about Harry. Then Lupin gives him chocolate and says something along the lines of "Are you alright Harry?" ?Then it says that Harry wondered how Lupin knew his name. Well he knew his name because Rona dn Hermione said it a couple of sentences before. Do you think that's a mistake or just Harry being thick or because of the effect of the demenetor?

I think that's because he lost some time and he may had not noticed it.

But he heard Ron and Hermione calling his name and then saw Lupin right there, so he should have put two and two together, but then he might not have been thinking straight.

I think J.K. Rowling cast that thought aside and made Harry wonder too add to the mystery of how Lupin knew so much about him. Because he already knew Harry's name before Ron and Hermione were calling for him.

Lupin makes mention that he knew who Harry was when he saw him because of his eyes (his mother's eyes). There's also the scar issue aswell, along with the shouting by Ron and Hermione.

Lupin should easily know who Harry Potter is anyways. After all, Lupin and Sirius and James Potter were all good friends. Harry is famous. Lupin should be quite aware of who he is.

That's all true but he didn't know they were friends til much later on and for all we know Lily and James could have been killed during a full moon and not had any contact with wizards after that so he might not have known Harry survived. I know that seems highly unlikely but still, it could have happened, there's no evidence to prove it false!

No, he would've come across Dumbeldore or the Daily Prophet who would undoubtedly have done a report on it. (And stated that the great Voldemort was defeated by a teeny-weeny baby)

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He'd forgotten all about the people in cloaks until he passed a group of them next to the baker's. He eyed them angrily as he passed. He didn't know why, but they made him uneasy. This bunch were whispering excitedly, too, and he couldn't see a single collecting tin. It was on his way back past them, clutching a large doughnut in a bag, that he caught a few words of what they were saying. \"The Potters, that's right, that's what I heard yes, their son, Harry\" Book 1, Page 4

Obviously they know that Harry did defeat Voldemort. Okay..it diesn't say that, but it's a very easy thing to presume. Why else would they mention harry? Also, when ever people see harry they do weird things. Also mentioned in Book 1 is the person who bows to harry on a bus or something and all the people that wave at him and such. They MUST know that he did in fact "defeat" Voldemort and is still alive.

~Fuoco

Yes the reason like you already said Ron and hermione were mentioning Harry´s name when he was pass out!
But i have a question?
what are the names of the 4 mauraders in English? I just know wormtail :?

I know them in spanish:

* Colagusano: Pettigrew
* Cornamenta: James
* Lunático: Lupin
* Canuto: Sirius

In English, the Mauraders are:

Remus - Moony (Mooney in the movie...)
Sirius - Padfoot
James - Prongs
Peter - Wormtail

Lupin could probably deduce who Harry was due to the fact Harry is the son of one of his best friends. Harry was probably a bit out of it from the Dementor attack. If I remeber correctly when Lupin gives him anti-Dementor lessons later in the book, it takes him quite a while to figure what just happened, where he wasand why he was there

but, in PS (the movie) hermione says that she'd practised a few spells and they'd all work. so wouldnt that mean she'd done it at home? in front of her muggle parents?

i noticed that. over-looked it though.
i've seen worse mistakes (in other books) that the editors had missed.

Ooooh.....Hermione got caught! :twisted:

She's a baaaad little girl! She could have done them in her room though....

oh yes, very true.
but her personally could show that she most likely showed her parents that she could do the spells.

Well as for the train one, maybe the train counts as being at Hogwarts, since it i the Hogwarts Express.

yes, yes that is a possibility.
plus, ron didnt get in trouble for trying that spell. (you know, sunshine daisies buttermellow....)

It could possibly be a mistake, but it could be an intentional thing jk put in.

I think Harry was just a little shaken from his run in with the Dementor.

i only just noticed that and it has been fixed in later copies

maybe because she was in the wizard world and not the muggle world so that might be why she didn't get in trouble

Harry was probably a little out of it to notice what was going on...

Well, consider for discussion the idea that Hermione is found in the boy's dormitory during Christmas break with Crookshanks in POA. Isn't that impossible because the stairways to the dorms do not permit the other sex to use them....as in OOTP when Ron tries to run up the girls stairway and they turn into a slide and an alarm bell rings? Or do they not function during winter holidays?

They explained that in Ootp. Girls were allowed to go into the boys dormitories because they were more trustworthy then having it the other way around.

yeh! go girls!! we are more trustworthy! lol

i dont know but i dont see mistakes in the books... maybe i dont read carefully enough *picks up ss and starts reading series from the beginning again)

Considering doing the spells at home and for those of us who have just viewed POA, well, Harry is practicing spells 'under the covers' at the Dursleys with wand in hand and book open. How could a young wizard learn and practice during the summer holidays if magic is not permitted outside of school?

Like other people said in various posts, Mrs. Weasley, it could be that you have to perform it in front of Muggles.

Just to clear up the Hermione scene in CoS, Mr. Weasley fixes Harry's glasses in the books. just sayin.

It could also be that you can't perform magic in front of Muggles that don't know it exists. But then, what about the whole "Expecto Patronum" thing in OotP? Dudley knew about it... I don't know it most likely is a mistake JKR made. I'm just confusing myself. I'll stop because my head hurts from thinking so hard, lol.

I thiknk they mean in muggle inhabitated areas, you know like where the muggles can see them.. Diagon Alley and the Hogwarts train are more or less Strict Wizarding Areas.

That's a good point too Swooner. Never thought about that...

Yeah he may not have noticed because he had someone scream and the dementors are terrible so he would of felt a bit terrible

Just something that I've picked up through rereading the series, but how come Sirius didn't know that Snape was teaching at the school? In Book 5, it makes reference to Snape being at the school for 14 years. Voldemort met his fall with Harry on Halloween of that year, which means that Severus would have been teaching at the school for 2 months before Sirius was arrested for the supposed murder of Pettigrew.

As well as that, we've also learnt that Severus had crossed over to the order by that point, so why didn't Sirius know him as a member?

Ok, Snape might have been working undercover and it might have been thought that he wasn't going to be teaching there still, but Sirius was suprised that he was there at all.

It something that didn't phase me originally, but since more and more has come out of the story seems a little odd.

Sorry if this has been mentioned before. I did a search but couldn't come up with anything and this sort of thing can be so hard to find.

Here's something that seems like a definite inconsistency. In Order of the Phoenix it says: "He could see the Quidditch stadium in the distance. Sirius had appeared there once, disguised as the shaggy black dog, so he could watch Harry play … he had probably come to see whether Harry was as good as James had been… Harry had never asked him …"


But in the third book, Sirius says to Harry directly:

"I journeyed north and slipped into the Hogwarts grounds as a dog. I've been living in the forest ever since, except when I came to watch the Quidditch, of course. You fly as well as your father did, Harry...."


Whoa. Talk about a major thing to forget, eh?

Well technically Harry never asked him . Haha jk, maybe Harry just forgot or something. But most likely it's just an error. Good catch

Heh heh...interesting spot, Agent

I think I remember reading somewhere that JKR never reads her books once they're finished, so unless she has a superb memory for little things like this, I guess the books are likely to be peppered with similar mistakes just waiting for people to find

I suppose we should just be grateful that at least Harry does remember Sirius at some time...*grumbles about lack of Sirius in HBP*

Before I say anything, can I just ask you a question. Do you remember everything that anyone has ever said to you at all?

However, that is beside the point. Everytime Sirius is speaking to Harry during PoA, the situations are all highly charged in an emotional sense therefore its not inconceivable that Harry's memory of these events is not exhaustive.