i know that double posting is not allowed but i hope mods will excuse me this time.here I will post a master theory on HPDH.here it goes
Before HPDH:
Dumbledore-
DD is the heir of Gryffindor.grindelwald killed his entire family in front of him(except brother who I think ran from the house)in revenge of some mistake made by DD.DD defeats grindelwald and takes revenge for the murder of his family.with this background DD who knows the value of a family,always cares for children(tom,harry,draco etc).he also knows the value of love which he hadn’t tasted in life.he does his best to stop voldy but remains unsuccessful.he hears the prophecy and hopes it becomes true.DD now is in two minds.on one hand he wants voldy to mark harry(snape shifts sides and tells DD that voldy has chosen harry)as his equal but on the other hand he doesn’t want harry to lose his parents.he performs fidelus charm and waits for the things to unfold.though he tries his best to stop it,he ensures that if voldy is able to find the potter’s hiding place he also mark harry as his equal(he tells a lie to james and takes away his invisibility cloak which may be used by harry’s parents as a last retort to save harry).he gives harry to lily’s only living relative(petunia)DD knows that petunia who has already communicated with him to ask if Dudley would be able to perform magic wouldn’t agree.DD suggests to her in the letter an agreement that in return for accepting harry he would ensure that Dudley doesn’t receive a Hogwarts letter.
DD knows that harry can only defeat voldy through love.his plan is to destroy voldy by bringing him into the love room in the MOM.but to pass through the door voldy must have some love in him.he gets it when he takes harry’s blood in the graveyard(gleam of triumph)now he needs a double agent whom voldy believes to any extent (snape)meanwhile DD continues his search for horcruxes.snape helps DD when the latter returns to Hogwarts injured.voldy becomes suspicios because snape was unable to control his emotions after saving DD.he orders draco to kill DD knowing that he would fail.he does this to test snape’s loyalty.DD tells snape about his plan to destroy voldy in the love room.DD makes snape promise that he would do his best to implement the plan.for snape to stay in the inner circle of voldy DD knows that he must die in the hands of snape.before he dies he ensures that voldy through draco believe that snape is on voldy's side.
Snape-
He is the awful boy petunia talks about.lily and snape talked to each other after they got the letters.snape tells that he was looking forward to learning magic because he wanted to see father in Azkaban with dementors.snape starts admiring lily after joining the school but doesn’t tell anyone.lily ends her friendship with snape when he calls her mudblood.as james started asking lily to go out with him snape doesn’t get an oppurtuinity to meet lily and tell his feelings.lily ends up marrying james but snape doesn’t forget her.when he knows that lily may become a victim of voldy he changes sides and alerts DD at once about the danger to lily.DD hears his story and believes him completely.after lily’s death he follows every order of DD.
Petunia-
she doesn’t want Dudley to learn magic because she overheard snape’s conversation with lily.imagine her fear when she knows that magic can be used against one’s own parents.
HPDH-
Harry finds remaining horcruxes except nagini which dies in the final battle.his flying abilities(while destroying ravenclaw's horcrux as ravenclaw symbolizes air)and parselmouth (nagini)will come to his rescue.he finds the locket wherever it is (with aberforth or kreacher)
All the things which happend in the past are revealed.DD’s plan will be implemented and voldy will die.other persons who die are snape and hagrid.
If you have any objections or want evidence for something I have theorised here I will give them in my answers.

I like that idea....are you saying that the protection of the horcrux is such that its destruction will require its being brought into the air to do so safely? The locket (Slytherin/water artifact) was protected by a liquid that needed to be drunk, so Ravenclaw protected by something that requires flying might make sense.....On this analogy, Hufflepuff's cup should involve earth somehow. Does someone have to submit to being buried alive to grab it? Does one have to let a limb decay to grab it? Hmmm....

locket was protected by water and the potion.similarly ravenclaw's must be protected by air for which harry may even use sirius flying bike.i have no evidence but i think the cup is in gringotts.remember he killed a goblin family though i am not sure where.

Do we really want to think that Dumbledore is so omniscient that he plans for all contingencies in advance? Is it possible that Dumbledore had no reason to think that Lily Potter's love for her son would protect him adn destroy Voldemort?

I like to think that Dumbledore has worked things out over time adn circumstance, and has benefitted from discovery rather than trhe fruition of what he predicted.

(1)The Ministry of Magic would have known about magic in Godric's Hollow just as they knew Dobby and Harry did at Privet Drive.
(2) Could the person under the cloak have contacted the OOP/MOM while another Death Eater with Voldemort picked up the wand and hid it, later giving it to Pettigrew? (Malfoy)
(3)Could Hagrid have gotten the motorcycle when all converged on Godric's Hollow. I would imagine Dumbledore, Lupin, McGonnagall, etc... would have gone directly. Sirius may have lent Hagrid the motorbike since he could not apparate.
(4)They may have sent Hagrid off first with Harry on the bike, then had plenty of time to formulate plans and arrive at Privet Drive before Hagrid arrived.

Question? Is the motorcycle in the FF with the Anglia?

d whole dumbledore thing is quite clever but in a article i read J.K Rowling said if a character dies he/she dies.

So i dnt think dumbledore will come bck becos it wll all seem a bit weird

I have no solid evidence for this stuff but i think it would make a fantastic story.

Fawkes has always been there by Dumbedlore's side and always helps him out.. He is noble and brave. I think the word is metamorphagus or something but sirius can turn into a dog so perhaps
Fawkes is Godric Gryffindor.

Now moving on years later i agree with alot of the others about the early stages but there is the cloak that always got me wondering. Perhaps it was Aunt Petunia under the cloak at the time and when dumbledore came to visit them earlier she gave him the cloak because she was so scared. You get several clues from the books that there is something more from Petunia that meets the eye.

Those are my ideas that i dont think have been covered yet.
Also i believe snape is on our side and he LOVED lilly

And i think R.A.B can be something iteresting like perhaps Regulus and Burke for instance a combination.

My "master theory" is loosely based on facts (mainly because I don't have a great memory) and mostly based on intuition. It also pertains to life after DH.

Right, so we all know that Ginny is JKR's favorite character but she appears as a minor character throughout the first 6 books. I think Ginny plays a major role in DH like perhaps saving someones life, or embarking on the trio's horcrux hunt and helping find and destroy horcruxes. Neways, she does something heroic and Harry's love for her grows increasingly stronger. Meanwhile, Voldy learns about Harry's search for the horcruxes and sets him up to find the last one alone (most likely the Dept. of Mysteries) but Ginny follows while Ron and Hermy are detained. Harry defeates Voldy but is fatally wounded in the process and he tells Ginny that he believes that she is strong enough to carry on the fight against Voldy's death eaters so she is convinced that she should be a auror. JKR ends the HP series and starts a new one with Ginny as the central character with Neville and Luna as the new trio (perhaps including Draco to make a four-some because I believe he is a sad little boy that will grow up to realize that crime doesn't pay and he does not want to follow in daddy's footsteps that led his family to ruin).

I have no idea who RAB is but I think is a person who is part of a group called RAB or initials for a nickname, not one singular character that everyone already suspects or has obviously clues pointed towards.

Also, DD is dead, just like Sirius is; otherwise how could he convince Fawkes to fake such a moving funeral song?

* I admit that a lot of my theories are based on what I want and what I would do if it were my novels, but JKR is a big fan of irony and hard-to-find allusions so I believe that even if all of my ideas are shot, the ending will still be shocking and like she admitted, will prove ample to continuous debating... now I ask you, how do you debate something that has a definitive ending?

Ok, hows this for a theory...

Wormtail owes Harry his life, right? Even DUmbledore said, but in the graveyard Harry nearly died because of Wormtail. He isn't exactly paying off his debt, or is he!? Think about what Voldermorte's body is made of, his fathers bone- his father hated his very existence, Wormtails arm- Wormtail is in debt to Harry, he has to repay him, and Harry's blood- Harry is trying to kill him, not much more to say. Well if all of these things work against him, won't his body destroy itself? Not totally sure on how this works yet but... yeah.

Your guy's theories are very interesting, so I would like to just throw somthing out there! You know how Harry's mom's name is Lilly, and her sister's name is Petunia, so it is my conclusion that there parents liked flowers alot! I am only bringing this up because it just seemed to jump up at me whern I was reading the books over again. Also J.K. Rowling said that Petunia has a good deal to do with the last book, with this comment I feel that she must acctualy care about her dead sister and Harry. J.K. also said that you should not expect Petunia to become a witch so maybe if she does actually love Harry and her sister, maybe her love will be strong enough to save Harry at least once even if she is just a muggle. Would it make that ancient magic of love stronger if the giver was still alive instead of dead? This is just something I'm throwing out there, and I also think that Dumbledor's brother will play a big part in the new book! Since some brothers and sisters look exactly the same would it be possible if Voltomort sees his brother that he thinks that Snape lied to him about kill ing Dumbledor and he thinks that his brother is him. Then if this is possible then maybe Voltomort will kill Snape and then Malfoy gets away feeling sorry for Dumbledor's death since it was partly his fault and then he goes over to the good side to help Harry Ron and Hermione to diffeat Voltomort, even if some of them die in the prosses! This is just some random things I thought up so if you have any comment on it please tell me o.k!

Okay well i just thought of this while reading the sorting hat song from OOTP.In one part of the song it says:

"But this year I'll go further
Listen closely to my song.
Though condemned am I to split you,
Still I worry that it's wrong.
Though I must fulfill my duty
And must quarter every year,
Still I wonder whether sorting
May not bring the end I fear.
Oh know the perils, read the signs,
The warning history shows
For our Hogwarts is in danger,
From external deadly foes.
And we must unite inside her,
Or we'll crumble from within.
I have told you, I have warned you.
Let the sorting now begin."

When the hat says that they must unite against the external foes, he means the four houses. So, I think that DD knew that the four hogwarts houses had to unite in order to kill LV. I think that is why DD had to convince Draco not to kill him and have Snape do it because then Draco would not be able to unite and kill LV with the houses. I think Harry of course has to lead the four houses. And DD knew he had to be killed or else he would stand in the way of the defeat of LV. I think the houses united, lead by Harry, will be the official DA and defeat LV once and for all( Or so I hope ).

What do you guys think?

Its interesting but i think it would be hard for Harry to lead a good 500 kids in the 4 house or something by himself. I think Jo would be brining in too many charachters.

You know. . .i have no idea what will happen in DH. . .who does, right? I thought i had a good theory but then the book covers came out, and now there are just so many unanswered questions about everything. . .i will just give a run down about what i think will happen in the next book:

-R.A.B. is Regulus Black. Harry finds this out by going to the Grimmauld Place and stumbling upon something there. Then Harry talks to Kreacher, Dung and Harry have a little chat, and then Aberforth comes into play. I think Aberforth has at least one horcrux, probably the locket. He destroys this one pretty easily. I will get to how he destroys it in a minute.
-The horcruxes; 1) The cup 2) The Locket 3) Nagini 4)Something of Ravenclaw/Gryffindors. I think that Harry will find the cup hidden somewhere in the earth, how or where i don't know. I think that Aberforth has the locket, and I think Snape will destrory Nagini (because he IS good). I don't know what the final horcrux is. I think it IS something of Ravenclaws, i just don't know what.
-Snape is good. He will be vital in destroying Nagini, a horcrux. He will also die either from Harry or Voldemort. Probably Harry. I just have a feeling Snape will die.
-Lily had a little something for Snape, i think she "liked him a lot" but then realized that Snape would never like her so went after James. This is the info we will learn about Lily that will be so important to something he does later on in the book. Maybe how he acts towards Snape, though i still think Snape will die.
-Destroying a horcrux: Harry will have to somehow get the horcruxes across the veil. I think this is how Dumbledore destroyed the ring horcrux, by de-activating it across the veil. This might be why his hand was the way it was--Harry said it appeared dead.
-JKR has said snakes in mythology will play a lot in this book, and snakes in mythology were seen as paths to the underworld, in a way.
-I think that the 12 uses of dragon blood are also similar to their uses in mythology: Medicine, Posion, Varnish, Gain wisdom, gain strength, heroic bravery, curing blindness, learn languages of birds, superhuman abilities, and JKR confirmed one was oven cleaner. I don't know the other two. But these make sense. Harry can gain wisdom and strength, giving him more of a shot to defeat the horcruxes. It can be used as medicine to help. Also heroic bravery could help. And learning the languages of birds, Fawkes maybe. I think dragons blood is in the puch around Harry's neck in the US cover.
-I think Lily may have been an alchemist or an unspeakable
-Wandless magic will come into play as they can't use their wands against each other. This is shown on the cover of DH
-I think the hallows are the relics of the founders, and that hallowed ground is their grave sites which we will find out about in the next book. If only Harry would read Hogwarts, A History! I think that Hgwarts is hallowed ground as JKR has said it used to be on a Celtic Site, and i think the founders may be buried there.

Um, yeah. . .i don't know how all my theories tie into each other yet.

1. I think the locket is in 12 Grimmauld Place. JK doesnt just put stuff like that in for nothing. she said they found a large locket that they couldnt open.
2. i also think Lily was an unspeakable. it just seems logical, right?
3. I think R.A.B is Reglagus black. Voldemort said in the graveyard that the Deathaters knew "the steps he had taken towrds immortality". Reglugus was a Death eater. Maybe, like his brother, regulgus was a good person and wanted to put an end to Voldy so when he found out about the horcruxes he brought Kreacher along with him, got the horcrux, planted the fake one, and hid the real one in his house (because maybe he didn't know how to distroy it). I thnk it said somewhere in the books that Reggy (thats my new nickame for him, Reglagus is getting boring to type) was killed by Voldemort himself. He must have done something really bad to have had that done to him
4. Snape is good. I think It was Dumbledore's plan for Snape to kill him, so that he could save Malfoy. theres a whole bunch of stuff about this on dumbledoreisnotdead.com. Ok, well we all know that he is dead, but there are some really good theories about Snape. I still dont like Snape, but thats a whooole diferent story.
5. I think Abaforth is going to play a big part in the 7th book. There is wayyyy too much to explain on this topic for me to write, but it's all iin this HPDH Theories Thread

i like the whole lily is an unspeakable theory but i just have no idea how Jk will incorperate it into DH

any ideas?

What did the Potter parents do for a living before Voldemort killed them?

A. I'm sorry to keep saying this, but I can't tell you because it's important to a later plot. But you will find out later!
this is from one of the interviews of jkr.i also do think that the poters were umspeakables.as to how it would be incorperated in HPDH i think harry will know this when he is in godric's hollow.he might also know that voldy can be vanquished only in the love room in DoM.the reason i think that because jo said that potters proffession is important and determines what harry does in the end.

Yeah. I, as well, think that Lily and James were Unspeakables. That would explain how lily would know what to do as far as the sacrifice she made for Harry. This is so, assuming that they did indeed plan this all from the beginning and also, and that Dumbledore didn't just tell them everything.

Also, I have a question. Were the Potters in contact with Longbottoms? Dumbledore explained to Harry that Neville Longbottom also fit the description of "The Chosen One". Was it Dumbledore who warned the Potters? Did he warn the Longbottoms? I want to know if they ever had to worry or go into hiding? What all happened during the time the prophecy was made to Dumbledore and either Neville or Harry's first birthday.

no they didn't plan it.jo already said that none of the characters(that includes DD& lily)knew about the effects of standing in between harry and voldy.it happend for the first time.

in the begining both the potters and the longbottoms went into hiding.but then voldy made his mind that harry is the chosen one for reasons known to himself(one of which is that harry is half blood).some Death eater(most probably snape)switched the sides and alerts DD that voldy has chosen potters.DD performs the fidelius charm and PP is made the secret keeper though DD offered himself to be the secret-keeper as he was sure that someone close to them were passing information to voldy.the same Death eater must have told this to DD(again most probably snape fearing harm to lily,anyway it's a different topic)A week after the fidelius charm was performed voldy goes to godric's hollow and what happend next we know through books.

Well here goes on my theories

1. Snape is good - After turning spy for Dumbledore. Snape feared that if Voldermort ever found out he would go after his family, so Dumbedore brought them into his care. We know that his mum was a witch and his dad a muggle. I think his mum and dad are both in Dumbledores employment. Miss Pince the Librarian and Filtch. We have been told that Filtch is a squib - but he could be a muggle. Harry has also thought that something was going on between Miss Pince and Filch.

2. RAB could be Hagrid and Buckbeak. (Reubus And Buckbeak) Buckbeak could have flown Hagrid down to the entrance of the cave. They did this at low tide so they could walk in rather than swim. Hagrid being so big scraped himself on the jagged rocks and when he got to the inner chamber he didn't know what to do . he just sort of rubbed his hands against the wall and was lucky enough to have rubbed his bleeding hand against the hidden archway. Buckbeak then flew Hagrid over to the green glow. they didn't need to worry about the boat. Hagrid drinks the liquid in which the locket is. Hagrid thinks he is dying once it has been drunk. Writes the note saying by the time you find this I will be dead but his giant blood protects him. He manages to give himself a drink from the hipflask of firewhisky he is carrying so he does not need to drink the water from the lake and Buckbeak flies him home again.

3. Kreature has to help Harry. Harry is his master and if he is asked to do something or asked to answer a direct question he has no option but to help. I think Doby and Kreature will be involved a lot in HPDH

What do you think possible or purely outrageous.

woahh! pince/prince! It all makes sense! I never thought of that! (by the way, its madam pince, not miss pince, just for future reference)



i dont think so. It doesn't really seem logical. Besides, Harry would have recognised Hagrid's handwriting, right? Also, Hagrid would have told DD that he took the Horcrux.

sorry, ignore about this post. i made a mistake and now i don't know how to delete it. I'm sure there'll be some mod edit any minute now to tell me to read the help forum again. lol.

I have posted this theory on the NAQ thread, but it could also fity here. My theory doesn't have to do with the plot line in DH directly, but what it states does affect it. So I am sorry if it doesn't belong here. I just am not sure where to post it, since it has to do with many topics that each have their own thread.



There are three big mysteries in HP; Regulus Black, James's invisibility cloak, and what really happened surrounding the deaths of James and Lily Potter. I have come up with this theory. It is what I think happened. Here are the quotes that have been driving me crazy for the past month.



• JK won’t tell us if anyone else was present in Godric’s Hollow the night Harry’s parents were killed.
• JKR: "Why did Dumbledore have James' invisibility cloak at the time of James' death, given that Dumbledore could make himself invisible without a cloak?" is an important question that no one has asked her ("NAQ").
• Snape was not hiding under the Invisibility Cloak on the night Harry's parents were killed.
• Lily Potter is not still alive.
• James inherited the invisibility cloak from his father.
• We will find out more about the history of James Potter’s family in the next books.
• Will the two way mirror Sirius gave Harry ever show up again? JKR: Ooooo, good question. There’s your answer.
• JK will not comment on whether or not Sirius' mirror will allow communication with Regulus or not.
• In the first movie, in a scene which JKR made clear that she personally added, we never see James, just Lily. [Hp Lexington]


Now, can you guess? If you guessed correctly, good job! Either way, I am still going to explain and tell you. I will re-list the quotes, with my comments in quotes.

• JK won’t tell us if anyone else was present in Godric’s Hollow the night Harry’s parents were killed. "Her silence answers for her; means “yes”. There was someone else present, but she won’t tell us."

• JKR: "Why did Dumbledore have James' invisibility cloak at the time of James' death, given that Dumbledore could make himself invisible without a cloak?" is an important question that no one has asked her ("NAQ"). "DD had James’s cloak because James gave it to someone else to use, but that person died/no longer needed it, so it landed in DD’s possession."

• Snape was not hiding under the Invisibility Cloak on the night Harry's parents were killed. "Snape wasn’t, but what about someone else?"

• Lily Potter is not still alive. "Note that it only mentions Lily."

• James inherited the invisibility cloak from his father." But where did his father get it?"

• We will find out more about the history of James Potter’s family in the next books. "HBP: Purebloods. DH: mom Dorea Black? What did Mr. and Mrs. do for a living? Why are the Potters important? Was Mr. the Minister?"

• Will the two way mirror Sirius gave Harry ever show up again? JKR: Ooooo, good question. There’s your answer. "Or, in other words, yes."

• JK will not comment on whether or not Sirius' mirror will allow communication with Regulus or not. "Her ‘no comment’ basically means “yes”."

• In the first movie, in a scene which JKR made clear that she personally added, we never see James, just Lily. [Hp Lexington] "Also, Harry assumes that the male voice he hears in his memory of that night is James’s voice; in reality, Harry doesn’t know what James sounded like. There is no such thing as a coincidence."



Ok, think about what you have just read; figured it out yet? Well, I am going to tell you, weather you have or haven’t. Here it goes.

There was someone else at Godric’s Hollow the night the Potter’s were killed, and it was NOT Snape. I think that Regulus was there, and he was under an invisibility cloak. Also, someone from the Marauders’ Era who is thought to be dead is actually alive. In my opinion, it is Regulus. JKR said that Grindywald will play an important part to the plot of book 7. Grindywald’s invisibility cloak someway or another ended up in James’s father’s hands, and then he gave it to James. That is some history to have. Mr. Potter was most likely the Minister of Magic at some point. Sirius’s two-way mirror will be very useful in communicating with R.A.B., a.k.a. Regulus A. Black. I do not think that James was killed on the night of October 31, 1981. He was killed by Voldy, but not then and not there.


Here is what I think transpired.

Mr. Potter is the Minister of Magic at the time that Grindywald was alive and in power. And, somehow or another, Grindywald’s invisibility cloak ended up in Mr. Potter’s hands. So, years pass, James is born, and now James is old enough to go to Hogwarts. He passes the invisibility cloak to James. Regulus came into contact with James, and maybe Sirius. He told James what he was doing, and James agreed to help him. I don’t think that James was an Auror, since he would have barely finished training when he was killed. I think that he worked in the Ministry, something that has to do with the DoM. I am thinking spell creator or a spy of some kind. James gives his invisibility cloak to Regulus as a way of helping him. Regulus used it to destroy a horcrux. Regulus is finished using it, so he gives it to DD to give back to James. OR the invisibility cloak is one of Voldy’s horcruxes, and Regulus found this out. He told James, and James gave it to him to destroy. Together, they found a way of destroying the soul within without destroying the object. The soul is destroyed, and it is given to DD either by James or Regulus for safe keeping. They don’t want Voldy finding out about what they did. The prophesy is made, and Voldy hears ½ of it. He puts baby Harry on the top of his hit list, and James is right behind Neville at number 3. James must be important, or else Voldy wouldn’t have had a good reason to kill him. He did not find out about the destroyed horcrux. I think that this has to do with the importance of the Potter family, or what James did for a living. James is out doing something, or he is waiting for someone. Either way, Voldy comes. Things are not looking good for James. The only way that James has any hope of getting out alive is by fighting Voldy. They fight. Then, Peter shows up. Peter tells James how he is the traitor in the Order, and how he has betrayed James, and how he is going to betray Lily and Harry. They fight, James wins, and then Voldy steps back in. Voldy and James have a climatic fight, but in the end, Voldy kills James with AK. Regulus finds out, and he rushes over to Godric’s Hollow. He force feeds veritaserum to Pettigrew and finds out the location of Lily and Harry. It is now October 31. It is in the late afternoon. When Regulus gets to Godric’s Hollow, he tells Lily everything. How James’s invisibility cloak was a horcrux, haw they destroyed the soul within it, how Peter is the spy in the Order, how he betrayed James, how he had probably already betrayed Harry and her, and how James died. Now, it is night. Regulus is on guard, watching out for Voldy. He sees Voldy, says “Lily, its him! Take Harry and run! I’ll hold him off!”. That is the male voice that Harry remembers. It belongs to Regulus, not James. Voldy sees Regulus, and they fight. It doesn’t last very long, and Voldy kills Regulus quickly, but NOT with his wand. Voldy transfigures Regulus’s dead body into James’s; making it look like it was James whom he killed. Voldy them went on to kill Lily. What happens next everybody knows. Now, this leaves the issue of the two-way mirrors. We actually know very little about them and how they work. I believe that they are powerful magical objects. So, it would make sense that they would be able to do things out of the ordinary; things like communicate with the dead. I believe that there is a way for Harry to communicate to Regulus using the two-way mirrors. It didn't/'wouldn't work with Sirius because he fell through the veil- he didn't die properly.
The good, the bad, and the mysterious; Dumbledore, Voldemort, and the Marauders & co.

~Prod

First I'd like to say that I really like the idea that someone had about DD putting his hand through the veil to kill the soul in the ring. I hadn't thought of that but it would definitely make sense. JKR did put the thought in that DD's hand appeared "dead". I'm also sure that the veil is going to come into play again whether to communicate with someone on the other side or to kill another piece of soul.
I'd also like to say that I believe that both Lily and James are dead. It is stated that their essence came out of LV's wand when Harry and LV's wands connected in the grave yard. Although I also like the idea that they worked in the Department of Mysteries. I can see that piece of info and the "Love Room" coming in to play as well in book 7. I doubt JKR would mention that room unless it would be important later.

Okay, here are a few of my theories. Somehow or another Snape and Lily were connected. I believe that Snape loved her but she didn't know that he did and didn't love him in return. Both Snape and Lily were excellent in Potions. Could one have tutored the other in secret? Anyways, when Snape called her a Mudblood, I think he lost her friendship and he became heartbroken. When his "enemy", James, started going out with her, he grew even more bitter and resentful. Time goes by and Snape spies for LV and gets some of the info from the prophecy. Upon finding out how LV interprets the prophecy and who it was about, Snape gets panicky. He reports to DD what he has done and what LV is planning to do. He deeply regrets having done it because he still loves Lily and doesn't want anything to happen to her. Now it is always said the DD believed Snape because of his regret. DD never offered any other info or proof and people just didn't question DD. I believe that DD and Snape made an Unbreakable Vow and possibly Aberforth was their binder. The reason DD never told anyone about the Vow was in case they were picked up by LV or a Death Eater. If LV dug deep into their minds, he would find out about the Vow and Snape would be killed and therefore useless in helping Harry. I believe Snape is good and JKR even states that there is a hint to his true loyalties by something he did in the POA movie that she didn't put in her book (maybe it was protecting Harry, Ron, and Hermione when Lupin turned into a wolf?) Somehow Snape is going to help Harry in his quest to kill LV. In book 1, when Snape starts the first class, one of the things he mentions being able to do is "put a stopper in death." What if that is how Snape is going to help Harry and the thing around his neck on the cover of the US version of DH is that potion?
Unfort DD had to die (and even JKR said he wasn't coming back). Snape had to be the one to do it not only to save Malfoy's soul but to also ensure Snape's position with LV so he would be in place to help Harry when the time came. DD wasn't begging Snape to save him but to kill him. Aberforth's role may be to tell Harry of the Vow when the time was right so Harry could trust Snape.
It is always mentioned that Harry has his mother's eyes and that this will play a role at some point-the 7th book. I think everytime Snape looks at Harry, not only does he see James, but he also sees Lily staring back at him through those eyes. Snape probably feels guilty for Lily's death everytime he looks in Harry's eyes and sees Lily looking back at him. It might not nec. be hate that drives Snape to act the way he does towards Harry but guilt for his own actions and acting the way he does towards Harry is a defense mechanism. I believe that Snape and Harry are going to have a heart-to-heart talk about Lily and Harry having her eyes.

On another point, I think that Harry's scar is an accidental Horocrux. Everytime LV was around, his scar would hurt. In OoP, his scar burned in reaction to LV's feeling. I think it was the piece of soul sensing its "home" for lack of a better term. LV and Harry's minds were linked beyond normal I believe because of that piece of soul forming a bond between the two. It is also mentioned the the last word in the last paragraph of book 7 will be "scar". Whether or not it still is we don't know. But she was rumored to have said that in the past that "scar" was to be the last word. There must be more to the scar than just a scar.

Oh, and I believe that RAB is for Regulus Black, and that one of the reasons Kreacher is to play an important role in book 7 is for the locket and getting it to Harry to destroy.

Anyways, sorry so long. Hope you can understand some of my ramblings.

SMASHING THEORY;;;
Unbelievable I was doing leaps and bounds when it all made since like a lightbulb...nooo thousands of light bulbs. WOOOWZA ok enough with the compliments don't want the head to get to big ya can't see the screen. Now there were a few points that are just a wee bit fishy from what made me cringe;; the part about Pettigrew doing a noble deed for once;; in the book is character has proved so cowardice that in the boil of it in PoA he would've cracked under pressure no way could he have not said anything with HARRY POTTER need I remind Lily and JAMES POTTERS SON HARRY POTTER pointing his wand at him death flaming in his eyes tell me you wouldn't have croaked about being in on the good side with DD and the Order Honestly being such a poor cowardice character he would've cracked about being good something like "Oh harry I give;; DD told me to give this information to LV because you were going to get the love protection" I mean the pettigrew would have to be Jesus to look harry potter in the face and let harry kill him with out saying a word. Also the part about the portrait I just don't know the whole brother dying noble cause thing I can go for I just don't. It seems so good to be true. But I mean in all fantasy books the good wizard Quote "DIES" and then later comes back take lord of the rings for example Gandalf came back one book later. So I don't know It's a good "OMG this would be so great and amazing ending I really hope this happens theory". Also if i may one last time amazing MASER THEORY.

I like Prodfoot's theory! Actually I like all the theories. We will just have to wait to find out won't We!!! I can hardly wait! But at the end Harry and Ginny have to confess undying love for each other whether HArry dies or not!

wow impressive theory prod. i think its veryplausible. But why would voldy make the cloak his horcruxe, and why did grindelwald hav it after LV, r they friends or somthin?

I believe that Snape is good, but in my theory he is evil!! Twisted!!

I do not buy that Snape didn`t know that prophecy was possibly about Harry. He doesn`t strike me as a guy who runs of and right away tells LV about a prophecy. I believe that he thought about that and went to LV with plan. I believe that Snape loved Lilly and that when he said LV about prophecy, he asked/ beg or more likely made a deal with LV - actually Unbreakable Vow that if LV let Lilly live he will become a spy for LV and forever loyal to him.
maybe Snape thought that he would have a chance with Lilly if James and Harry are death (maybe little to soap like )
And DD knew about Snape`s love towards Lilly so he believed him that he wouldn`t never said LV about prophecy if he knew it was about Harry and that he chang himself because of that. So LV offers Lilly to live and even she end up death he didn`t break the Vow. Snape is forced to keep his end of a deal.




I do not believe that LV would let Lilly live just because someone even Snape asked him - everything that LV does if because of his gain.

So that is my explanation why LV let Lilly live and DD believed in Snape`s "redemption"!

Something that just popped into my head: Now that Godric Hollow has been pretty much destroyed...does Pettigrew still hold powers as the Secret Keeper?

I don't believe it has ever been mentioned in the books...

If Harry is going to Godric Hollow, he needs to know where it is, as far as we know, he doesn't. So, would he have to hunt down Pettigrew to find out? or can Hagrid, Lupin or someone else who's been there or knows just tell him?

I think this would be the perfect way for Pettigrew to repay Harry for saving his life...

Just a suggestion to keep in mind, if anyone knows anything or has more ideas, send me an owl or post back or whatever...

the_mischievous_1, there's a thread on this very topic called: Pettigrew Still Godric's Hollow Secret Keeper?. However, most believe that the spell was placed upon the building and once it was destroyed, the spell ended because there was no longer a building there to hide. One of the clues for this is the fact that the book said Hagrid had gotten Harry out of there before the muggles could swarm the place. If the spell was still in play, there wouldn't have been any fear of muggles swarming it because they still wouldn't be able to see it.

Anyways, if you want more info on this, just find the title for the thread.

I hope this fits here. I originally posted a link to my blog where I posed my theories/observations but was advised that this constituted advertising. So here is the jist of it. I hope its not too long.

I like many adults got sucked into the Harry Potter madness years ago. This has of course, as is often the case, led to an addiction of sorts. With the release of the final book of the series coming on July 21 of this year, I decided it was time to reread all six of the preceding books.

Over the last couple weeks I have managed to read the books again. This time however I made notes. As I listened to each book (I listen to audio books almost exclusively), I noticed things I hadn't noticed the first time I read them. Okay, I guess that should be things I hadn't noticed the first five times I read them! Anyway, my goal here is to set forth my observations and, my theories for what might happen in book 7.

A couple of points are required here. First, I have not read the books in print, only as audiobooks. Thus, I may have misspelled name of characters, spells, places, etc. This is because I have never read them. The other disclaimer is that I have no idea what will actually happen. These are just my observations and predictions. I could be (and usually am) totally wrong. On the 21st of July, we will see just how close I am.

If you haven't read the Harry Potter books yet, I suggest you go out and buy them all and get started quickly. If you hurry, you can be done before book 7 comes out. Otherwise, it is likely that you will be the only person left on the planet that has not read the entire series by say... July 22nd. Likewise, if you haven't read the books yet what follows contains many spoilers. Do not proceed if you have not read the books yet!

Observations

JK Rowling created the world<
It is important to remember that JK Rowling created Harry Potter's world. Every single book has introduced new characters, new abilities, new spells, and new magical items. There is no reason to assume that new things won't be created in the final book as well. It follows then that it it is extremely likely for newly introduced concepts be central to the plot.

What does this mean? Well, take for instance the sixth book, Harry Potter And the Half Blood Prince. Before reading it, you might hypothesize what would happen to Harry and his friends. Still, he never would have known about "Horcruxes" which were a concept introduced in the sixth novel. Yet these objects were never mentioned in prior books. Before the sixth book was published, nobody could have predicted what would happen in book 6 since nobody knew (except JK Rowling herself) what horcruxes were.

Names
Many character names in the Harry Potter series are highly significant. Rita Skeeter for instance turns out to be able to transform into an insect. This makes me wonder about the caretaker, Argus Filch. His name, Filch, implies stealing or theft. While this could be a reference to the fact that he is known to confiscate contraband from students, one wonders if there is a deeper meaning. We know of one thief already, Mondungus Fletcher. Perhaps there is a connection?

Jobs
Dumbledore was the transfiguration teacher before becoming headmaster. Yet this is only mentioned once. Will this become significant in the future? It's hard to imagine how considering Dumbledore is now dead but it's still a possibility.

Nevill
To me, Neville is one of the more enigmatic characters in the books. His clumsiness, and seeming ineptitude are mentioned over and over again. It is as though JK Rowling does not want us to forget that Nevil often screws up. Yet it is also true that he is a whiz at herbology and he also excelled while a member of the DA.

While his success at the DA could be attributed to the fact that it was, as Luna put it, "like having friends", most likely his success was due to the fact that he saw a chance to revenge his parents. Still, why is he so forgetful? So clumsy? If it were really in his character to be clumsy and forgetful, why then did he perform so well under pressure? We initially are led to believe that, for example Professor Snape makes him nervous. But even in the face of Nevill's least favorite teacher he must be less apprehensive than he would be facing a room full of death eaters. Nonetheless, in the former case he is worthless whereas in the latter he performs admirably. There is definitely more to come for Nevil. There is certainly more to learn about him.

Perhaps a memory charm was performed on him. We learned about memory charms in the second book, Harry Potter and the Chamber of Secrets. Perhaps something was done to block out the memory of what happened to his parents and it "went too far".

I also think Nevill will end up being a teacher when the dust settles. Perhaps the new defense against the dark arts teacher. He could be a herbology teacher but I think that might be to predictable. I think Nevill will be the first DA teacher who lasts more than a year once the curse is broken with Voldemort's death.

He Who Must Not Be Named
Everyone is reluctant to say Voldemort's name aloud. While I could understand a strongly ingrained fear in someone like Ron who has lived as a wizard his whole life, I would not expect it from someone like Hermione who was raised a Muggle until she learned of her acceptance to Hogworts. Yet she is is afraid to say the name of the dark Lord as everyone else is, even in her first year. She only learned she was a witch a couple of weeks before. She would have had no magical training or experience. So why is she afraid to say the name aloud?

While this could just be an oversight on JK Rowling's part, it is possible that there is a deeper reason why people fear to say the name. Perhaps this become significant in the future as well. Perhaps likewise, Harry and Dumbledore share some attribute since neither one seemed fazed by the idea of speaking his name aloud.

Unforgivable Curses and the endgame
Can Harry use and unforgivable curse to kill Voldemort? If he does, must he go to Azkaban? Of course, Snape could do it for him. Severus is already guilty of one murder. Perhaps he will sacrafice himself for "Lilly's Son" since he was in love with Lilly back when they were both students at Hogwarts.

Dumbledore's Death
Is Dumbledore really dead? I think he is. Still, there is one thing to consider. He told Malfoy, "they cannot kill you if you are already dead" and then offered to fake his death and put him into hiding. If he felt comfortable in doing this, even in his weakened condition and even with death eaters just downstairs, who's to say that he wasn't able to do the same thing to himself. I don't think it's likely. I just think it's possible.

What, if anything, does Dumbledore leave Harry in his will? Dumbledore cared for Harry. It is only natural that he would leave him something in his will. While it could be something sentimental or personal, it could also be something useful in his quest to defeat Lord Voldemort. Fawkes would be one possiblity. His Pensive would be another.

Tonkes
Tonkes' ability as a metamorphmagus is very rare. Still, aside from a novelty, it really serves no purpose in the storyline. I wonder if it will become more important in the last book. I also wonder if anyone else has the ability and has yet to exhibit it.

Snapes hatred of Harry
I have two theories here. First, that Snape hates Harry because the teasing that Harry's father gave him at Hogwarts is what drove him to become a death eater? I think the more likely theory however is that Snape has no hatred of Harry. I think it is all part of his attempt to clear his mind of anything that could be used by the dark Lord.

For example, if Snape were civil to Harry, Harry might confide in him. This would provide more things for Severus to have to keep to himself. It would provide more chance for a fatal error. On the other hand, by being cruel to him, he guarantees that Harry will spend as little time with him as possible.

Of course an even simpler explanation, which does work in parallel with the former, is that Snape is cruel to Harry because it would be out of character to do otherwise if you were truly a death eater. After all, we don't know who else in his house might say something that gets back to Voldemort. An errant kind word to Harry from Snape, might sound like treachery to Voldemort.

The Secret Keeper
Who is the secret keeper for the Order of the Phonix now that Dumbledore is dead? Where will their headquarters be?

The Dark Lord
During his occlumency lessons, Harry asks Snape why he refers to Voldemort as "the dark Lord" even though the only people that ever call him that are death eaters. Snape is about to answer him when he is distracted by a disturbance outside. We never hear an answer. The fact that this happened makes me think that it is significant. I think this might tie into the fact that people find it difficult to say Voldemort's name. I think we will learn more about both things in the final book.

Transfiguration
Will we need a new transfiguration teacher? After all, with Dumbledore dead, Proffessor McGonnegal will be the new headmistress. Someone will likely have to takever her classes. Perhaps Professor Umbridge will reprise her role in this capacity. It would be fun to see her reporting to Minerva for a change!

Actually, since we know the Rita Skeeter will be back, perhaps she is the new transfiguration teacher. She is an animagus after all so she probably, like Professor McGonegal is skilled at transfiguration. As for Delores, perhaps she will return to her old job as DA teacher. I would think a large part of her job would involve eating crow and that too would be amusing.


Predictions
Snape
One could write an entire book just about Severus Snape. Is he good? Is he evil? Is he both? Well, I have my suspicions.

First, let me say that I believe that Severus Snape killed Dumbledore with Dumbledore's advanced knowledge and consent. We know from the sixth book, that Snape made an unbreakable promise to Narcissa, that he would kill Dumbledore in the event that Draco was unable to. We also know that the result of not keeping an unbreakable promise, is death.

Dumbledore has always shown himself to be a very practical, rational wizard. He realizes that Snape's value to The Order as a spy is greater than his own value. He also surely knows that if Severus kills him, the Dark Lord will never question his loyalty again.

We also know that Dumbledore did not fear death. He once said that, "After all, to the well-organised mind, death is but the next great adventure."

This all plays into what Dumbledore has been saying about love throughout the series. Voldemort cannot relate to the fact that someone would be willing to sacrifice their life for a cause. Dumbledore knows this, and uses it to his advantage.

As further evidence that Snape is good rather than evil, I must point out that when Harry is chasing Snape and Malfoy across the grounds, Snape prevents him from using unforgivable curses. He says, "no unforgivable curses for you". It is almost as if Snape is trying to prevent Harry from doing something that will get him arrested.

A similar example occurs just a few moments later. Snape says, "Blocked again and again and again until you learn to keep your mouth shut and your mind closed, Potter!" Is it me, or does this sound like Snape is trying to teach Harry? It sounds to me like this is a lesson. It is Snape's final chance to convey to Harry the importance of both closing his mind to others and also to using nonverbal spells to avoid "telegraphing his punches".

For those who feel that Dumbledore wouldn't have done this, consider that in the Ministry of Magic in the preceding book, when a killing curse was directed at Dumbledore, Fawkes blocked it. Of course Fawkes was miles away in Dumbledore's study during the battle. He appeared, "as if by magic". Yet at the top of the astronomy tower, Fawkes did not appear to save his master. Curious...

Finally, Dumbledore knew that Draco was planning to kill him. He knew that the unbreakable promise was made. If Snape didn't tell him, how would he know? There is one other answer which I'll leave for later, but still, Snape the obvious answer here. Snape told Dumbledore immediately. That was their conversation in the forest that Hagrid overheard.

I think the reason Dumbledore trusts Severus is because he made him make an unbreakable vow years ago when first begining to teach at Hogwarts. If the vow was to be always loyal to Dumbledore then he would be in the clear for killing him. He fulfilled the vow to Mrs. Malfoy by killing Dumbledore and yet if Dumbledore told him to do it, "Severus... Please..." he was acting according to his wishes and thus he acted in accordance to that vow as well.

Hagrid
I think Hagrid is a gonner. He will not survive. He is a lovable character but hasn't really been important lately. Thus, he is more useful dead than alive. Sorry Hagrid, we will miss you.

Aurthur Weasley
In the fifth book, "Harry Potter and the Order of the Phoenix", Ron, in desperation says, "We've got about as much chance or winning the Quidditch Cup as dad's got of becoming Minister of Magic." The thing is, Gryffindor does win the Quidditch cup in the end. My speculation is that Ron's dad, Arthur Weasley, does indeed become the Minister of Magic.

Fudge is gone. The current Minister is just about worthless. If Ron and Harry save the day in the end, as everyone is expecting them to, Ron's dad isn't the long shot one would've thought just a couple volumes ago.

What are the implications of this? Percy, the estranged son of Arthur, would be forced to kiss up to his father. That would be both fitting and amusing. It would also solve all of the money problems at the Weasley's have perpetually had. It also just seems to be a nice way to round things out at the end.

The School, The Order and The Summer
I think the school is very important. It is been central to the books since the beginning. Everyone seems convinced that school is either not reopening, or Harry is not going to return if it does. Let's face it, Harry hasn't been right about what he's going to do over the summer yet! I'm betting that he and everyone else return to the school. Okay, Draco and Snape probably won't but everyone else probably will.

There are several reasons for returning to the school. I think Harry will gain some guidance or at least comfort, from Dumbledore's portrait which is now hanging in his study. The library, which is Hermione's greatest tool, will be increasingly important as they attempt to find and destroy the horcruxes and defeat Lord Voldemort. Another reason to return to school is the fact that that's where all the other characters will be. We spent too much time learning about all the other characters. We can't just ignore them.

Here is my take on what will happen. Harry will return to the Dursley's. He will spend as little time as is absolutely necessary there. He will leave there and go to stay with Ron. He feels closer to Ron and his family than to any other family. We also know that Mrs. Weasley considers Harry to be like a son. In any case, he has to return there for Bill and Fleur's wedding.

I also don't think that The Order of the Phoenix will be idle in the last book. Harry may keep his plans to himself and to his close friends, but the order will be active, we will hear from them, and they will give advice and counsel to Harry.

I think Harry may return to school in part because of Dumbledore's wishes. I have a feeling that either through his will, or some other artifact, Dumbledore will convey to Harry that it is his wish that he return to school for the last year. Perhaps even his portrait will tell Harry that.

So I think after the wedding, Harry and his friends will go to Godrick's Hollow and snoop around there for a bit. In the end however, they will return for the start of their last year at Hogwarts. They will make several trips to find horcruxes. After all, Unaproved excursions are not new to this group anyway.

Dudley Demented
JK Rowling has stated that we will learn in the final book, what horrible memory the dementors made Dudley relive. My theory is that, in the days prior to Harry's parents deaths, Voldemort and his death eaters went to Petunia's house. They probably terrorized Dudley as well as Petunia and Vernon in an attempt to learn the location of Harry and his parents. The fact that they didn't know or couldn't reveal it (the location was protected by the Fidelius Charm) was probably lost on them. This would go a long way to explaining why the Dursley's dislike Harry so much. It is this meeting with the Dark Lord that I suspect Dudley saw when the dementors came.

The DA
While the DA was formed in protest to Professor Umbrage who is no longer at Hogwarts, they would be a force to be reckoned with, and I would not be surprised if they did not reunite in the final battle of good vs. Evil. It is also my understanding that Professor umbrage may be back. It will be interesting to see what part she plays in events.

Wormtail
Wormtail has been listening at doors and acting as a spy might. Is he planning to betray his master and use the information as a way to repay Harry for saving his life?

Also, had Wormtail spied before, perhaps for Dumbledore himself? Dumbledore knew of Draco's plan. I feel it wasn't Wormtail but rather Snape who told him. But on the off chance that I am wrong, and Snape really is evil, then how would Dumbledore have known? The only possible way would be Wormtail. Still, I think the way Wormtail repays his debt is yet to come.


Ginny
Harry and Ginny will live happily ever after. I also think Ginny will be a big help in Harry's quest. In spite of Harry's reluctance to involve her, she is already involved. Voldemort used Ginny in the second book, to draw Harry into the chamber of secrets. He knew then that Ron was Harry's best friend and that his sister Ginny could be used against him. Whether he knows or not of Harry's love of Ginny is irrelevant. She is already on his hit list. Eventually, Harry will realize this, and the two of them will continue the fight "hand in hand".

Harry as a Horcrux
I've heard this one many times. Sorry, but I have never bought into this concept. I just don't see it. Sure it could happen, but I'm not betting on it.

Trevor
Trevor, Nevill's toad has been quiet up until now. Still, he hasn't done much. I have a feeling that he's going to do something important in the final book. I can't base it on anything other than a hunch but that's what I think.

R.A.B.
The only logical conclusion as to the identity of R.A.B. (The person who stole the horcrux) is Serious' brother, Regulus Black.


Conclusions

So there you have it, my take a will happen in book 7. I probably won't be right on everything but this is my best guess. Opinions?

Wow, jeffsstuff.com! You've really thought this out and did some serious research. I commend you on it. I really like the part about Arthur Weasley. I had forgotten about Ron saying: "We've got about as much chance or winning the Quidditch Cup as dad's got of becoming Minister of Magic." That's a really good observation and I wouldn't be at all surprised if AW did become MoM. It would be sweet justice (and a long time coming) for the Weasley family.

I also never thought about Trevor being more than what he is. But, I don't think I would see JKR repeating herself when she has already done one pet-Scabbers. It would be kind of redundant for Trevor to also be an animagus or something. I think Trevor is just Trevor.

I didn't see any mention about the Giant Squid. Do you have any thoughts about it? I'm just curious. I wouldn't be surprised if is turned out to be an animagus. Just seems like there is more than meets the eye where it is concerned.

the only thing i can think of about the giant squid is that i could be a squib that has been cursed because it saved dennis creevy from drowning and it was no where to be seen during the 2nd task, the only reason i think it could be a cursed squib is it sounds like squid lol

Of all the creatures, the giant squid does keep popping up but in such small, subtle ways as to be almost ignored. I like that theory.

As to trevor, I don't think he is a wizard. I just remember that they said (when Ron took Scabbers to the shop to get checked out) that magical creatures usually have interesting powers. Trevor has not shown us anything. The fact that he keeps popping up makes me wonder if he won't do something special before the end of the series.

As to the length/breadth of my posting, it was originally on my website. I originally intended to post only a link to it here (I thought that would save space) but apparently that counts as advertising so it was removed. Its a shame because I have the funniest picture there now (a guy playing the trumpet while driving). Its a bit off topic here but funny. Anyway I have been compiling the ideas for a while now. Each time something comes to me, I jot it down and this is the final result.

The eyes still bother me. I can't come up with a meaning that I like. Of course, it is possible that the importance can't be known yet as we are missing some crucial information.

-Jeff

thanks LittleRed7771! I forgot that about the Muggles, I'll definately check out that thread.

Well thought theory jeffsstuff.com!

One thing I did forget to include: We always hear about Harry's scar. We all know its shape. Is there any significance to the shape of the scar?

wow that was awsome!!!!!! i would love to belive that dd is still alive. i dont want to think that harry is a horcrux because that would mean that he has to die, but since he probably is going to anyway it fits

also as much as i love sirius and would like to meet his bro, it makes much more sense for aberforth to be RAB. Jkr has introduced him to us a bit more so it seems he may have an important role (we dont know much about him or dds past, now is the time to find out) also we know regulus is dead sirius said so also it wouldnt really make sense to be regulus considering he was so much like his "pure blood mother" being in syltherin and all!

Sorry, jeffsstuff.com. I hate to burst a theory, but I found an interview with JKR where she said that Mr. Weasley will Not become Minister of Magic. I really liked the idea, though. Personally, I don't think he is going to survive DH. I hope I'm wrong, but it is inevitable that at least one of the Weasley's will die seeing as how there are sooo many of them.

But Arthur as MoM would be so much fun! Between his love of muggle "artifacts" and his apparent distaste for bureaucracy, it would be fitting. Oh and just throw Percy and Umbridge into the mix...

Oh well, back to the drawing board. Still, its fun to think about it.

Of course, if Molly were to become MoM... Unexpected but almost the same thing. To far fetched, but still.

Percy would like the job too much, so it won't be him. Fred and George, that would be highly amusing, but they are too busy making money and having fun. Who should become MoM...????

Oh, oh, oh! I have a new theory. Okay, first, let me put in this section from an interview with JKR I found on fredngeorge.com.

Moderator: Sam asks: Will Harry time-travel again?

J.K. Rowling: Not telling!

Notice that JKR didn't say "no" to the possibility of time travel. Here is my theory.

Harry finds an object among DD's things that permit him to travel back in time. Harry goes back in time and is the person under the invisibility cloak in Godric's Hollow that night when his parents are killed. Knowing he can't change the past, he does nothing to stop LV because the result could end in his death at age 1. He is merely there to find out for himself the events that occurred that night and also to see his parents. This may also be where the mystery is solved as to how Wormtail gets LV's wand and what happened to LV's body.

However, I think Harry will find DD in the past. (And this is where it gets a little out there.) What if Harry and Snape made an Unbreakable Vow in the past with DD being their bonder? This could be why DD trusts Snape without question. DD of course doesn't tell present day Harry because it hasn't happened yet and he wouldn't want to take the risk of changing the future by divulging this info to Harry. Harry will have to figure it out on his own. This could also explain why Snape loath's Harry so much other than just James' memory. Snape knows he is bound to Harry to help him without Harry even realizing it. This will be the final info Harry needs to realize that he can trust Snape when the time comes and he faces LV.

Okay, feel free to call me crazy. But, I think it makes a lot of sense. However, I know it sounds a little farfetched.

Hmmm. Another thought. Instead of finding some kind of time travel object among DD's things, could the RoR become a time portal if that is what the seeker requires it to be? Maybe Harry could require the room to take him back to the night his parents die.

Hey LittleRed! Like the theory about time-travel. Harry has got to find out for himself that final piece of the puzzle and what a better way to do it? I didn't know JKR had said that- but maybe the time-travel will come into play with Harry finding the rest of the horcruxes? I mean, DD had to go back into his and other people's memories in the pensieve to locate the ones he found. So, Harry might have to do the same kind of thing- not having a pensieve on hand, it would have to be time-travel. And he couldn't use a time-turner because all of those were smashed in book 5. I think it'll be a person who fills Harry in on that final piece of the puzzle, though. Harry is going to be going back to GH in book 7 to visit his parent's graves- I have a feeling that this is where he'll be enlightened.

1)The spell did not only backfire, but love inside Harry destroyed Voldy's body.
2)It didn't destroy his body, but made his body impossible to inhabit.
3)There was an explosion when the spell backfired which reduced Voldy's body to pieces
There may be other theories, but these are the three I had. In book 4, Voldy says "It was pain beyound anything" or sth like that, which means that he felt sth. Normally, when you die, you feel nothing (or so I guess), he also adds "I was ripped from my body", whihc means that there is sth more than just the spell backfiring.

PLZ READ THE 6th BOOK AGAIN

When Dumbledore discusses Horcruxes with Harry
it is plainly explained in a way which i understand:

when a soul is trapped in a object, and the user dies , it stays trapped and thus not completing the full soul after death
so,
voldemort became a some kind of live part half soul ghost but was still alive only needed a new body
the avada kedavra leaves no traces (exept in harrys case) it just forced voldemorts soul out of his body as i understand ...and being unable to go on without his full and complete soul, he existed as a alive half soul ghost. yes a explosion might have been caused as a sideeffect of lilys love and the house collapsed and did the rest for voldys body while it protected harry from the crumble.

my 2nd theorie is short and simple:
the 2 main charectors who die will be fred and george, proably either because deatheaters raid there shop for useful combat items or for the cheek advertisment lol .

LittleRed- one more thing I forgot. I really think it's far-fetched to say Snape made an Unbreakable Vow with Harry. Snape has tried to save Harry's life as a result of him being in James' debt. James saved his life, so Snape tried to make it up to him by saving Harry's in the first book, and so on and so forth. Here's my theory:

DD told Harry that Snape turned spy for OoTP "at great personal risk". And this "risk" was DD's "ironclad" reason for trusting him, right? Well, Snape (who did in fact hear the entire prophecy Trelawney gave) was caught by Albus and Aberforth. I think Snape had already changed his loyalties and that's why he was there to ask DD for a job (of course V thinking he was sending Snape as a spy). DD told Snape only to report a portion of the prophecy to V. Okay, well, Snape only realized later on just who the prophecy was about and panicked. He had loved Lily, hated James, but was still in James' debt. SNAPE WAS THE ONE WHO WARNED THE POTTERS THEY WERE MARKED FOR DEATH. No person besides a DE would know who V was after. In the third book, McGonagall mentiones this to Rosmerta ( I think) and says, "Do you remember when the Potters realized they were marked for death, they went into hiding?" They couldn't "realize" they were marked unless a DE had told them. AND, that would have been the "great personal risk" because if V had found out Snape had warned the Potters, Snape would have been murdered.

Also, you have to remember how many times Snape has tried to get Harry expelled. If Snape had indeed made the UV with Harry, why send him away from Hogwarts where he was out of the protection of DD?

Those are good points. While I like the time-turner theory, I think it a little far fetched. However, just to add fuel to your fire, consider this.

The line, as I recall it, read "all of the MINISTRY time turners were destroyed". That doesn't mean that someone else might have one. For instance, someone from another country not under the MoM's control or someone with an illegal one.

Like I said... fuel...

gryffindorgirl23-yes I know it is a little far-fetched about the UV between Snape and Harry, but it's just a theory Also, there is no question on my part that Snape is the one who informed DD about LV's interpretation of the prophecy and the Potter's. I think that is the point in which Snape decided to change sides and become spy for DD against LV. Yes, it's at that point that DD decides to hide the Potter's in GH and perform the FC to protect them. I've never questioned those particular chain of events.

Mr. Weezly, I'm not sure if you were just making theories or directing your post towards me because I made the mention about the mystery of LV's body that fateful night. However, let me elaborate a little. Yes, it says that LV's soul was ripped from his body. But, it doesn't really explain what happened to the body itself. Was it blown to pieces? Was it left unscarred (until the house fell on top of him)? Did someone remove the body? The DE's didn't know this had happened to LV. Remember they tortured the Longbottom's trying to find out what happened to him. Apparently they didn't find pieces or a body otherwise they would never have tortured the Longbottom's for LV's whereabouts. There has never been any talk of a grave for LV's body. If there was, then the DE's would not have been looking for him. They had found Lily and James' bodies in the rubble apparently because they were buried. I'm sure if there were pieces or a body of LV, they would have found that too. So it has been questioned by many-what happened to LV's body? That's why I say that maybe we will find that out in DH along with how LV's wand ended up in Wormtail's possession.



Of course that is possible. There's just one small problem. How many turns do you think it would take to go back 16 years when it is 1 turn for every hour? That's an awful lot of turns. Not to mention, he would then have to relive 16 years of time (in hiding) waiting for the time turner to get back to present time. If Harry does time travel, I think he will find a more effective way where he can control going forward and coming back.

Well, turning it 140,000 times might be a bit of a pain. Good point. As for waiting 16 years, perhaps you could simply turn it the other way 140,000 times when you were done.

LittleRed7771, I like your idea about Harry going back in time, but snape couldn't have made an UV with harry, because both people involved need to agree, and to do that they have to TALK. I doubt harry could talk for himself if he was a tiny baby!

And also, harry doesn't know the exact hour his parents were killed, so if he was using a time-turner, he wouldn't know the number of turns to do.

By the way, a little off topic I know but i didn't want to start a new thread. I had a history lesson today about WW2 and i realised that HP is actually really similar.

LV is a bit like Hitler, he hates anyone who isn't like him, he kills lots of people. The DEs are like the nazis, doing whatever LV wants, afraid that he'll kill their families. I don't want to mention specific countries in case i offend anyone but say the OOTP are a bit like the good guys who fight against discrimination.

Imagine HP pans out like WW2 did, is LV going to kill himself?

I don't see where this is really a factor. You turn time back an extra day and wait for the event to happen. Then you turn it back the other way to return to your own time.

I think that would work. When I have a chance, I'll pull out the owners manual for mine and see.

In book three, every time Harry mentioned his mum screaming to Lupin, he would make odd and questionable motions. I believe he had to have been there that night. I don't know what for, though, I have a shrewd suspicion that he was there for Lily...

But then again, in the 1st book, Hagrid had mentioned something about seeing Black there all shaken up (but he was probably furious at the fact that he switched to Wormtail at the last moment...)

But anyways, I believe all four of the "Muaraders" were present that night. Obviously, Lupin must've felt guilty about something...or ha may have had something for Lily, I don't know, but once, when Harry heard his mum scream, he also heard the "sound of someone stumbling" whoever stumbled could've been anyone! But I guess we'll just have to wait till the 21st of July to find out everything once and for all

Personally, all my theories are just driving me nuts and I can't wait to see what finally happens.

But I think it's funny to note that all of the known squibs thus far have the initials, A.F. (i.e. Arabella Figg, and Argus Filch, who I believe will be the one who manages to perform magic "late in life, though, it's rare" as J.K puts it )

Okay I am new in this thread but what happened to Hermionie's time turner? I don't recal? I as well love the idea of the time tuner it is a really cool Idea.
My other question was where do we find out that someone was under an invisibility cloak at Goderics Hollow? I don't recall that either.Its been awhile since I have read the books from cover to cover but i don't recall that!
The issue with turning the time tuner 14000000 times is a good one but there must be a spell or incantation that makes up for that! These are wizards we are tallking about. It may not be a common magic but I am sure someone has changed the hands of time!

Hermione said she turned it back in to Prof. McGonagall at the end of term because she was taking a normal schedule the next year and wouldn't need it.

I don't think it has ever been stated as a fact by JKR that someone was under a cloak on that fateful night, but JKR has never denied it. She did say that Snape was NOT under the cloak. She denied that particular theory but not the theory of someone being under a cloak. This leaves the door open to the possibility that there indeed was someone else there that night.

Okay so if someone were under the cloak do we really think that if it were a friend that they would have done nothing about what was going on. They would have had a great advantage of surprise! They could have easily knocked off old voldy and had been a hero.

If someone were under the cloak it would maybe have been an enemy of Volemort but not a friend of the Potters.Snape is a really good guess which is another topic i suppose. Who would have been under the cloak that wouldn't have helped the Potters but was afraid of Voldemort?! That could be almost anyone. R.A.B would be my guess depending on when he was killed.I mean that is if we all believe that R.A.B is Regulis ( however you spell that.)He knew what Voldemort was all about and wanted out. Regulis as Sirius said wasn't important enough to be killed directly by Voldemort. Perhaps he had the hit out on his head and the death eaters only found him after voldemort disapeared.
Perhaps he was at the Potters to tell them what Voldemort was up to. The Potters were at the top of OOTP. Voldy got there to soon. Maybe the Potters hid him knowing that his information was so important to the Order? He may have given the info about the Horocruxs to the Potters.had Voldemort not arrived when he did they may have been able to stop him.
Unfortunantly unless the Potters told him where they were i don't see how he found out where they were?
wow that just came to me right now!