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LittleRed7771
Well, Sirren made a really good point on another thread. It would have to have been someone PP had told the location to. We can rule out Hagrid, DD, Snape, Lupin, etc. because those people were friends and they would have known that PP was the Secret Keeper and not Sirius making Sirius innocent. I still really like the idea that it was Harry from the future under the cloak. However, PP himself is a really good guess because that would explain what happened to LV's wand.

Oh, oh, oh. Okay, had another thought. Someone in another thread made a mention that all the Marauder's have given Harry something except PP. What if PP was under the cloak and the thing he gives Harry is his memory of that night? Not that I am standing firmly by that theory, but it is a good possibility.
Lhynn
Oi guys I'm kinda confused..how come the idea someone has to have been in the house that night under the invisible clloak?

hmm...whatever..if that someone has been there and they were good, they would have done something unless they knew they werent allowed to cause it would change the future


that brings me to the point of time travelling which is a good idea but the time turners were all smashed so there might be some other way..

And I read on the JKR page that it wasn't Snape..so maybe it was really Harry who and that's now my theory:

Harry wants to visit his parents graves right? what if there's some kind of spell that makes harry go back in time to see what happened that night.
damn this is a real crime story kinda lol

I say Harry's mom somehow makes him go back in tiem as a spirit or ghost or I really don't know it's really really late now =P
Me and the voices
Hate to be the one who ruins all the fun but in order to "time travel" harry would need to have already done that, what i am trying to say if he "time travels" back to the night when voldemort attacked he already had to do in the past, just like in the prisoner of azkaban, they whent to save buckbeak and sirius but they wore already saved in the time frame from which they went, but lets for the sake of fun assume that he did time travel meaning he was there when voldemort killed his parents and tryied to kill him.
We have two choices:
a)So there is harry looking at vodemort killing his parents and he does nothing, so now what, well nothing, he now knows the truth and goes back to his own prezent kills voldemort and we are all happy weeeee, not a very good plot, is it?
b)He sees voldemort killing his parents he stops him, or kills him or whatever, he changes the course of time therefore stoping voldemort before voldemort himself.... sounds a bit strange i know, but if he stops voldemort that night then voldemort has to know what happend but the whole point of "time travel" with the time turners is to NOT BE SEEN remember what hermione said it is one of the rules you must not be seen! therefore it is not logical that he stopped voldemort, voldemort was the strongest wizard at the time and he would certainly at least see harry, lilys love saved harry nothing more and nothing less stop searching for things that are not there, there could be something we dont know but i think its certain that there was no "time travel" happening in that house!

Now, something else, the "harry is a horcrux" theory
I dont think so, but i have to agree with people who say that voldemort did give harry some of his powers like the parsel mouth ability and so on.....
I dont think voldemort made him a horcrux but i do suspect that he transfered his own horcruxes to harry making him his equal. To make things simple i think that harry like voldemort cant die, at least not while voldemorts horcruxes are not destroyed. There could be this connection allowing harry " to use" voldemorts horcruxes and become immortal while at the same time protected with lilys spell or whatever that was, love or ..... he would then be in essense diveded between the good and the evil......
It would explain why he has this strong connection with voldemort and the plot for the deathly hallows would be much more simple and logical....
What do you think???!

p.s.Sorry about my english, im a bit rousty
aaronbellamy123
i dont think that it was set up that lily would die for harry i think that she just did it because she loved him not to try and kill voldermort. Also dumbledore is dead i think. i think that his brother will help harry in DH. Maybee dubledore knew that he would have to die so that Malfoy doesnt die. Also knowing of his own death i think that maybee he told his brother to help harry when he is gone. for example teaching him magic and sensing magic. this is because harry couldnt sence the magic when he went to get the locket so Aberforth may teach harry to sence magic so that he can find the other horcuxes
mother
If you remember DD also said that his brother was not the brightest light bulb. I don't think that too many new characters are going to enter into the picture except R.A.B and he is dead! . this book is finishing the series off not opening up another can of worms!oviously someone close will sarafice themselves for harry. harry has to kill voldemort and everyone knows that. The deaths will come in the way of aiding harry get to voldemort.
JK also said in an interview that not to worry there will still be plenty to talk about after the book. Which leaves loose ends for us to chew on for years! rolleyes.gif
leaveoneee
this might be totally out of the ordinary here, but has anyone else been sent a link that sums up the ending for HPDH? it happened to me the other day and i was bummed out for a while. mad.gif
Tonks
I believe that the opinions posted above are brilliant.. well done everyone! I agree with most of you about Snape's history with the Potters. It would only make since for him to have feelings for Lily because not only was she a pretty and popular girl, but she shared many of Snape's talents including that of potions (as Slughorn suggested in the 6th book). He hid his true feelings for her by calling her names like "mudblood" in order to avoid the merciless torment that James and his friends provided. During this time, I believe, as James began to date Lily, Snape's hatred continues to grow. Snape turns to Voldemort as his way to vent his grief. As Snape becomes a Death Eater, at some point, James Potter spares his life. Snape becomes confused and upset that his archrival- whom he has hated his whole life- saved him. Snape now must rethink everything he has previously thought about the potter family. Shortly after, Snape decides to go and talk to Dumbledore about seeking protection from Voldemort and hopefully gain his trust. This takes him to the bar in which Snape hears the prophecy (the WHOLE prophecy) and Snape is again torn. Should he tell his master and earn his high favor or protect Lily and James and their son? He tells Voldemort only half of the prophecy in hopes that he can be in his master's favor while avoiding the outcome that he fears for the Potters. When he finds out what Voldemort wants to do (eliminating the threat), Snape decides once and for all that he must prevent this. He goes to Dumbledore and tells him everything. Dumbledore's "concrete proof" that Snape isn't trying to trick him? His love for Lily Potter.

So why did Voldemort pick Harry and not Neville? Well, I have a theory for this too. What we don't know about Harry is who is family is, most importantly on his dad's side. What if Harry is the descendant of Godric Griffindor? It would make since that Voldemort, the descendant of Slytherin, would mark Harry as his equal. This would also make since that Harry would pull the only known relic of GG out of the sorting hat in his second year, AND that his parents lived in Godric's Hollow.

As for what happened that night I still believe that Harry was made a Horcrux, however unintentionally by LV. Somehow, when LV attempted to kill Harry, something was left inside Harry, some piece of Voldemorts soul. This would explain the connection between the two that time and time again has been presented in the books. This would also count as what Dumbledore had theorized as something from Griffindor... his heir.

I believe that Harry will die in the seventh book and there are reasons why. A) he will follow in the steps of his mother to do what is necessary to protect those he loves cool.gif He will finally show the power that the "dark lord knows not" by making the ultimate act of love... self sacrifice
Prodfoot
JKR has said that there will be a further major revelation about Lily in the final book, 'something incredibly important'. JKR wont say what what James and Lily did for a living. She also wont say why the colour of Harry's eyes are so important.

I think that the big revelation about Lily is that she was an Unspeakable- she worked in the Department of Mysteries, studing the power behind the locked door. James was also an Unspeakable, but he worked in a different area. Harry had hazel eyes originally, not green. When Voldemort came to call on Halloween, Lily did some sort of charm. The charm called apon ancient magic- love. Lily new how to do this because of her work. She studied love on a daily basis. She knew that her actions would save Harry. The charm went into effect when Lily sacrificed herself, the ultimate act of love. When the charm saved Harry, it changed his eye colour from hazel to green. They changed because of what Lily did. The charm put a little bit of herself into Harry, mainly her ability to love, but it also gave Harry green eyes.

~Prod
Half Blood King
i know this might be a little short compared to the rest of your posts but what if dumbleodres (albus if he was the dumbledore that died) death was sort of like star wars when obi wan added power to luke with his death just a thought but i doughtJK would steal this idea
wiz&witchard13
this is kinda off topic but what do u think the "triumphant gleam in dumbledore's eyes" meant? im brain dead on this part of the plot.
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