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Triad
The most talked about topic in the entire series: Harry Potter.

Will he die? Will he survive? Is he a Horcrux? And many more.

All our questions have been answered and you can discuss them here. Since I'm here I'll start. smile.gif

I always believed he would die. I could see no other way out for JKR, and personally, I wanted him to die. For selfish reasons I'll admit, but I felt it was his time to go. And technically he did. One could argue that his little trip to 'Kings Cross' was the crossing between life and death and he was given the choice. However I doubt that if he hadn't had the Horcrux inside him he wouldn't have survived when LV sent the curse at him, it would also make for an entirely different story.

I never believed he was a Horcrux though. So for that to turn out true stumped me! But it did make for good reading. I think it was a good idea for DD not to tell Harry he was doomed to die. I think Harry would have fled and tried to live as long as he could, so not knowing and having the thought of protecting his friends from further harm is what kept him hunting down the Horcruxes.


So what did the rest of you think about our Hero? And please no 'I told you so's'.
etphonehome
When we first met HArry, he was an innocent totally likeable kid. Not shy or reserved in any way despite his upbringing, but a nice, unspoiled, likeable lad.

Through the books he has taken a rather rocky journey and at times I have found him to be irratating, particularly when it came to his friends. In that, I felt he could have handled things better. But I have always forgiven Harry for this, because at the end of the day, he was the only one who could destroy Voldemort, and I knew that he would only be 17 years old when he had to do this. Just a young man.

Although Dumbledore gave away small pieces of information to guide Harry along, I always felt that he was a bit dense. I mean JKR could have written Harry as brave, intelligent and understanding, but then, she would have had no reason for Harry to befriend Ron and Hermione. Harry needed to not be too intelligent or too brave or too understanding so that he could have friends who would be willing to help him on his quest.

I am cross that she made Harry a horcrux, and the fact that she undid that in such a weak fashion.But then it was a plot device that was needed to ultimately reach the point where he was able to destry Voldemort.

JKR wrote better characters for the HP series than Harry, but my affection for him has always been pretty steadfast. Despite all his little annoyances and bad taste in women wink.gif
he was the chosen one...the boy who lived, and that's something I am going to miss.
Albus Dumbledore
To be honest.. I never really liked Harry as a character.

I have always been more interested in the other characters, particularly the adult characters who had so much mystique/power/mystery, etc.

However, the books are about Harry and I enjoyed reading about him and his life. I grew more attached to Harry now that he was out and about destroying Horcruxes and the like.

I was a HUGE supporter of the Harry is a Horcrux theory and I am pleased to know that he was one, and that I was right. I think the addition of the Horcrux in Harry allowed Voldemort to make more crucial mistakes as well as allow Harry Potter to make the decisions and choices that would define him.

Seriouslysirius
Well i always stuck to the Harry just can't die theory i'm glad it payed off in the end. But i admit i was so scared for him. I just wouldn't allow myself to beleive that J.K would kill of nineteen years of work. It's been a rollarcoaster for Her as wll as Harry. I think she want them both to get out of it alive and well.

Harry has been brave and true to the very end of the series and he has had his fair tasks and punishemtns but he has come through them and in the end beating the one person who sort to destroy hiM. My family cheered when i yelled Voldermorts dead. I was so happy. I just didn't want him to die. And it was an amazing twist. But i agree with Triad he was sort of on the edge of dieing when at Kings Cross. But i beleive DD's spirit also had a hand in saving for he loved Harry and it just seemed so uncharacteristic of DD to just admit to Snape Hary had to die. My heart was in my mouth throughout the whole near ending of the book. But are lightining shaped scared Hero. Came through in the end. biggrin.gif
HarryPotterIsMint
I totally love Harry
however sometimes his anger and agression were a little hard to read as i thought he was turning into something he wasn't

I'm so happy he defeated Voldemort!
and lived
I really thought he was going to die and truth be told if he had i would probably be crying still.
When i thought he had died i refused to read on but then i knew i had to so carried on after about half an hour of arguing whether to.
I loved the fact that he was happy, i love the fact that at the end of every book, even when things seem like they couldn't get worse and he had lost something important to him, he still looked for the best, he still had someone/something there with him telling him everything would be ok no matter what, at the end of every book you were left with a glimpse of hope.
Harry had been through so much, so much loss and pain, but he pulled through and brought justice with him.
Even though i was in tears at the end of the book, i was still happy
as 'All was well.'
carpysports14
I have one quote from Ron to summarize what I thought of the final book.
"BLOODY BRILLIANT!"
I beleive ti was the best book yet.
Ladie Lily Potter
I love Harry and don't know how one couldn't! His character was probably the most selfless and amazing character I've ever read about or heard about.

I will admit that I was about ready to throw my book down when he was giving himself up to Voldomort but I'm so glad he didn't die. I thought that he would die and I knew he was a horcrux and was surprised with my anger when I actually read that I was right. Thank goodness he lived!

For the whole hunting of the horcruxes, I was terrified for him and for his life. I didn't want him to get caught, I wanted him to finish the horcruxes and finish Voldomort ... and he did.

I felt so bad for him when he and Hermione were at the grave of his parents. Knowing what it's like to lose someone close to you, I was crying right along with him! Haha

It's hard to believe that the Harry Potter series is at last at an end. It's a wierd feeling. I cried when I finished reading it but I still don't think it's kicked in that never again will I be able to say "I can't wait till the next Harry Potter book comes out!"

JKR has given us a truly beautiful gift by writing Harry Potter. So hats off to you and I can't wait until you come out with something else!
HP_RULES!
I will have to say that I have always adored Harry as a characters. He was such a cute, innocent little kid and he has grown up so much! I, personally, am glad that he didn't die, especially the way that he did...although I will have to admit that had he truly died there then there could not have been a more noble death. Well, I guess technically he did die, but at the point where it was up to him to decide I actually believe that he made the braver choice.

I am glad that Harry found out he had to die the way that he did. It wasn't something that was meant to be discussed with his friends or mulled over, it needed to be done. I think that, had he had time to really think about it, fear may have overtaken him (understandably of course). I actually thought him marching to his death with all those whom he had lost was brillant! The fact that he could have united the three hallows and had all that power, yet he chose not to act selfishly was mind blowing. It just made me love his character that much more!

About the Harry being a Horcrux, that was not a twist I expected. I didn't think it was possible, and, before I read the book, I thought it would have been terrible of that's the way it had to happen. I liked the way Jo did it though, that made me happy. Whatever saves Harry life! And, of course, I was thrilled he didn't have to use Avada Kedavra. Voldemort brought about his own downfall.
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I felt so bad for him when he and Hermione were at the grave of his parents. Knowing what it's like to lose someone close to you, I was crying right along with him! Haha

That part broke my heart!!! sad.gif

It was nice that, after everything Harry went through, he finally got his happily ever after...
Potters Phoenix
Harry - the one we love and the one who survives!!! grouphug.gif

The way that JK lets us grow with Harry as a person is great. I was convinsed that the only way for the series to end was with Harry's death, and about two or three chapters from the end I was convinced that I was right. I had to take a break before I could continue reading. I was so happy when I found out that Harry lived. He did not even need to use the AK curse to achieve his goal.

Anyway, I can't believe that the series is over, and I am sure that I will always be a huge fan. There can be no book or books to compete these. I am sad that the series is finally over. These books should be made classics - as others in years to come with be able to enjoy them.

Harry is truly a hero.
twiggysun
I don't think that Harry would have fled and tried to live as long as he could if he had known he was a Horcrux. I think he would have cut all ties with his friends and would have gone on the journey alone. And he wouldn't have made it.
Harry Potter only came as far as he did because of his friends. I'm not saying he wasn't good enough to do anything on his own but it it is as JKR said in DH. The moment he was on his own in Hogwarts he couldn't think of anything to do. He was lost without Hermione and Ron.

Harry Potter for me is a tale of true friendship and how friendship can conquer all.
The character of Harry amazing. I really do love him, but a lot of his power comes from his friends.
Insomnia
I was one of those strong believers that Harry was a horcrux. I have to admit, it wasn't vanquished quite like I expected it to be. However, it worked out quite nicely because it brought DD into the picture and we got to see LV's future there on the ground.

I never expected the use of Harry's blood by LV and DD's triumphant look to be used the way it was. That was a twist I didn't foresee. However, it made sense to a degree.

Like many others have already stated on this thread, I enjoyed watching the transformations of Harry throughout the series. He definitely went through the full range of growth and emotions those 7 years before he reached his decision of self-sacrifice at the final battle. He truly became the leader and hero that was destined to be his. I was proud and in tears during that scene. Of course I was scared of his death, but I was hoping on the horcrux being destroyed in Harry's place allowing him the chance to live.

Although it seems like every character went through some serious growth and change, except perhaps Luna, none as much as Harry because he had the weight of his destiny, the wizarding world, his friends, and his own life on the line. No other character had so much to bear on their shoulders and I think he did a magnificent job coming out on top.

I'm glad he was finally given the chance to live a happy and "normal" life for once. He deserved it.
cjreadsfast
It never dawned on me until THIS book, the scene in which he sees hes parents' death that Harry might be a horcrux. I knew it immediately upon reading that scene, though. It explains SO much of the strong connection between him and the evil Voldemort. I had vowed to swear off any other J.K. Rowling books or materials forever, though, if Harry had died. What would be the point? To tick off millions of loyal fans? Loved the whirlwind of emtions in this book.
Mrs Figgy
Bless him. Harry was true and brave and decent right up to the end. He first faced V without a wand out expecting to die. Then at the end, he warned V to repent--gave him every chance-- and did not AK him, as I knew he never would. What a kid!
LilyPotter
I'm torn on this subject.

Personally, I don't see how one can be a Harry Potter fan and hate Harry Potter... I mean... he is the books...

That being said wink.gif , he was never my favorite character... not even my second or third favorite, to be honest.

Don't get me wrong, I love Harry, and I am simply elated that he survived, but I was more upset by some of the deaths in the series than I would have been over Harry's.

Severus, for instance... Oh man... I can't believe I am going to attempt to talk about this again... I cry every time...

Harry's character developed so much in this final book. He grew into a powerful wizard, seemingly all at once... but my favorite thing about him is how he recognized the fact that Severus Snape risked his life, day after day, year after year, to protect him. Everything Snape did was for Harry... for Lily, directly, but, subsequently, for Harry...

*sigh*

I can't talk about this anymore. I'm tearing up again. I'll return and attempt this again tomorrow.

Anyways, I'm very, very happy that Harry lived.
Member of the Phoenix
I didn't think Harry was a Horcrux and so that was a surprise to me. I can say though that I was totally prepared to have Harry die. I am glad that he didn't, but I had gotten myself ready for it just in case. I think that this was the most interesting in the series. I can say that I didn't know if after this one I would read it again, but I am pleased to know that I feel I can. I think the way JK revealed Snape to still be one of the good guys was good. I always thought he would be but I didn't expect it like that. I can say that Snape's death was justified and it was wriiten well. I don't think that Harry would have listened if Snape had tried to talk to him.
agos beatle
I was definitely sure that Harry was a Horcrux and that he had to give himself to be able to kill Voldemort... On the other hand, I didn't expect that he would live. And maybe, before dying I remembered the use of love (like his mother) and that, after all he was the Master of the Deathly Hallows...
I believe that Harry grew up a lot in this last book, and his maturity enabled him to do al he did in this last book,,,
I was hoping with all my heart for him to live and marry Ginny!
So, from this point of view, Harry fulfilled my expectations for the seventh book, although I just had put in the Prologue Forum, that I'm not totally convinced about the Nineteen years later...
white_bumblebee
personally i really like harrys character, sometimes he did stuff that annoyed me a little, but overall i like him. hes very brave, gallant and when he walked into the forest prepared to die i liked him even more. but i prefered other characters to his, dumbledore, mcgonagall, lupin, hermione, luna were personal favourites. but i do love harry, although i would have preferred him to have been killed off, not leaving LV to take over the world, i wanted harry to have to sacrifice himself to kill voldy, and was happy when he first sort of dies as this was my preferred ending, then i read on and found he wasnt dead after all. i prefer the idea that he dies a hero, saving the wizarding world being his last act, being reunited with his parents, sirius, DD, lupin etc. but i do still like the actual ending.
i was kind of undecided about him being a horcrux, i though it possible, but i also thought it cant be true if weve all guessed so easily. but it was a good plot, him being a horcrux all along, thinking he must die, then allowing himself to be killed, killing the bit of LV in him and still living, again surviving the avada kedavra curse like noone else can, then killing LV infront of everyone, hes a true hero!
Spencer Potter
I loved it that he lived, I almost cried when I thought he would die.. I was hoping Ginny would live and she did, everything turned out great. Cept for Fred, great man, and Tonks and Lupin.
cindy8221
QUOTE(Triad @ Jul 22 2007, 06:50 AM) [snapback]415957[/snapback]

The most talked about topic in the entire series: Harry Potter.

Will he die? Will he survive? Is he a Horcrux? And many more.

All our questions have been answered and you can discuss them here. Since I'm here I'll start. smile.gif

I always believed he would die. I could see no other way out for JKR, and personally, I wanted him to die. For selfish reasons I'll admit, but I felt it was his time to go. And technically he did. One could argue that his little trip to 'Kings Cross' was the crossing between life and death and he was given the choice. However I doubt that if he hadn't had the Horcrux inside him he wouldn't have survived when LV sent the curse at him, it would also make for an entirely different story.

I never believed he was a Horcrux though. So for that to turn out true stumped me! But it did make for good reading. I think it was a good idea for DD not to tell Harry he was doomed to die. I think Harry would have fled and tried to live as long as he could, so not knowing and having the thought of protecting his friends from further harm is what kept him hunting down the Horcruxes.


So what did the rest of you think about our Hero? And please no 'I told you so's'.


Wow I thought like this too....I wanted Harry dead, and when I spoke of it many people wanted to throw potted plants at me. I did say it for selfish reasons as well, I thought his time was up and it be better if he died to save humanity. I also wanted Voldemort dead at the same time too.

I honestly did not want to believe Harry was a Horcux, I just thought its for...I dunno reasons. But I admit I was wrong in believeing either of these theories of mine.

I think Harry played very well in this last book and it was such change all around and inside him. He grew up and started to understand, started to see what people like Dumbledore saw and Harry made his choices, his decisions and it helped him out in the end.

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GreenGred
Oh Harry. Where to start? I have always loved Harry and he has always been one of my favorite characters and for me it is hard to criticize the way he handles things because of his extremely difficult life.
I always wanted and thought Harry should live and I am so pleased he did. How could the boy who lived die? And I didn't believe that Harry was a horcrux but I am pleased the way it all turned out. At first I was a little disappointed by the fairytale ending in which Harry marries Ginny but I realise that it was anything but fairy tale because his life was so darkened by loss he deserved nothing less than to live happily. I think that instead od dying a hero he lived a hero because he never once sunk to LV's level and used the AK. IT was amazing. He grew up so much in the series and was even able to learn and figure out stuff on his own in Book 7 which was wonderful. He was brave and gallant and completely lovely.

LONG LIVE HARRY POTTER!!!
departed_soul
I'm very glad that Harry lived. It wasn't too surprising to me that he was a horcrux, but the way Voldemort destroyed that part of his soul was interesting. I liked the part when he walked out to the Forbidden Forest with the "ghosts" (for lack of better term) with James, Sirius, and Lily, encouraging him that what he was doing, by protecting the students, was for the greater good. It reminds me of something he thought of in Goblet of Fire: he'd rather walk into battle with his head held high rather than being dragged to his death. It was the way I'd expect any Gryffindor, especially Harry, to fight, and I was proud of what he did.
#1_pottergrl
I was so suprised by the ending. I had convinced myself before even reading the book that Harry was going to die, probably just so I could be prepared for the inevitable. So when I read that Harry would have to sacrifice himself, I wasn't surprised, however I still bawled my eyes out! But while he was talking to Dumbledore, I realized that there were still quite a few pages left in the book, and I realized that he wasn't really dead. This came out of nowhere, because I figured the only way JKR could get out of writing another book was to kill off Harry. So in a way, I guessed the ending of the book, but in another way, I didn't.
Breanna_Justine_Potter
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Mrs Figgy Posted Jul 24 2007, 12:39 AM
Bless him. Harry was true and brave and decent right up to the end. He first faced V without a wand out expecting to die. Then at the end, he warned V to repent--gave him every chance-- and did not AK him, as I knew he never would. What a kid!


Yes, how very true, AND his soul is still in tact!! He hasn't killed anyone, even LV. I love his compassion, and how he didn't want to kill. smile.gif

Now, I'll admit that when I came to the part about him being hit by the killing curse, my heart stopped for one moment, and I simply shut the book and walked away. mellow.gif Now, I loved the series too much, and I'm far too curious to not finish a book. So I came back and continued.

I was simply ecstatic when I came to the end and it turned out that Harry lived. I always believed in him, no matter how bad it became, I stuck with him. And I was always hoping that he would live because, well, he deserves to have a chance to live!! biggrin.gif His life has always been plagued by darkness, and now he has a chance to be happy, and it's well deserved, I think. lol. So Now we know he truly is the Boy-Who-Lived!! happy.gif

Ok, now Harry's 'death' would have been the hardest blow for me. But thankfully, he lives, so the hardest blow was Fred Weasley! I mean, what is George going to do without him?? My favorite characters were like this.

1. Harry Potter
2. Fred and George Weasley
3. Sirius Black

If she had killed Harry, then all I would have left is George!!! lac.gif I would be extremely devastated. Although I already am, with the other two deaths!! ok now I have to stop, I'm tearing up, poor Sirius, and Fred!! They didn't deserve this.

*Breanna* eeek.gif

talli_babe
i know how you feel sirius was only looking out for harry and he died by bellatrix btu thank god she was killed by mrs weasley i am so glad about that and poor fred i didnt expect that to happen he didnt deserve to die and neither did tonks and lupin for me that had the be the biggest blow i kept thinking thy might be pretending but nope they were defo dead i hated that bit jkr didnt explain how they died why they died who killed them he just found them on the floor dead aww and there poor son teddy i felt so sad.
Lauren0891
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Personally, I don't see how one can be a Harry Potter fan and hate Harry Potter... I mean... he is the books...

That being said wink.gif , he was never my favorite character... not even my second or third favorite, to be honest.


Same here. You can't really hate the main character of a series, the character the whole series revolves around and still like the series. But he was never my favourite character either. I don't really have a favourite character to be honest sleep.gif but I know he isn't my favourite.

That been said though, I do still like him. I had a feeling that he wouldn't die so when Voldemort 'killed' him I was shocked shocking.gif I thought how could she do this? But then he came back and all was good again in the world. biggrin.gif

I'm glad that he got his happy ending in the end. That poor kid. Nothing ever seems to go right for him, and whenever he gets a bit of happiness JKR feels she has to take it away. I mean he's never known his parents, and the closest thing he has to a parent, Sirius, has to be killed. Why would you do that to him JKR? mad.gif And his poor owl gets killed... and then Dobby... Poor guy.

I was annoyed that Harry was a horcrux. I had argued in forums before why he couldn't be, and how I didn't want him to be. I really didn't want him to be a horcrux. But he was. huh.gif I don't know it just seemed kind of predictable and lame.

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Bless him. Harry was true and brave and decent right up to the end. He first faced V without a wand out expecting to die. Then at the end, he warned V to repent--gave him every chance-- and did not AK him, as I knew he never would. What a kid!


I know! How brave! I would have been too scared unsure.gif but he was willing to walk straight to his death. Go Harry!

Chrissiep
I actually didn't put Harry down as a Horcrux, but had everything else nailed. I have to admit though, I loved that I was wrong, it added so much more to it.
raydurz
I've decided to add a short spoiler space for those who haven't read the Today Show interview Jo gave about Harry, Ron, and Hermione's future... Also I wasn't sure if this should have gone in the epilogue thread, I'm sorry if this is in the wrong one.

*SPOLIER*
*SPACE*


Ok, It seems that Harry (and Ron) becomes a great (if not the greatest) Auror. So does that mean the Harry (and Ron) go back to school? If I remember correctly, doesn't an Auror have to have top NEWT scores? Jo was non-committal in the interview. Could they, the M.O.M have changed the rules? Thoughts?
Owl Handler
I didn't want Harry to die for the simple reason that he had been through so much already and that he deserved a chance to experience a life no longer tarnished with threats (or the Dursleys) hanging over him.

I am not sure where Harry fitted in when it comes to favourite characters. As someone above put it, he IS the books so I think that it goes without saying that he is sort of the favourite just because without him the story would not be and you feel SO sorry for him and want everything to turn out okay.

Favourite non-Harry characters though would have to be Snape, Sirius, and Lupin (and not one survived... sad.gif ). I am not sure what people will think of me but I never really liked Hagrid, he sort of annoyed me after a while. sad.gif and when I thought that three people were going to die I rather hoped that the motor-cycle crash was his end... not that I wanted to see anyone die but I would have rather that than someone else... please don't shoot me... ohmy.gif

I just felt that whenever Harry had a right to feel sad, or upset, Hagrid would get more upset and emotional and take all of the attention and cry louder so everyone would have to feel sorry for him instead...

I am extremely interested in the info to come though, such as how George copes without Fred, and where Snape was buried... I think that it would be right if he could have been buried somewhere honourable and not somewhere back near Spinner's End where he had so many sad memories of his childhood...


manchesterutd99
QUOTE(Potters Phoenix @ Jul 23 2007, 07:40 PM) [snapback]416822[/snapback]

Harry - the one we love and the one who survives!!! grouphug.gif

The way that JK lets us grow with Harry as a person is great.


not only that - but re-reading through the books JK's writing style seems to become darker as the series goes on, the philosophers stone truly has a sense of a kids book while the deathly hallows is so much darker

and yes harry has taken us on an amazing ride - courtesy of jk rowling, most entertaining set of books ive ever read (and am likely ever to!)

lets hope in 20 - 50 and even 100 years time its still as popular, hell the lord of the rings managed it and harry potter is now larger than that!
Shawspeare
To Be Honest, Harry Was One Of My Least Favourite Charatcers In The Series.
He Irritated Me A Hell Of A Lot. Mainly Because Of His "I And I Alone" Attitude He Had About His Many Tasks & Quests. I Love Ron & Hermoine And Hated Seeing Harry Dismiss Them Alot About Their Ideas/Suggestions.

I Believe Them To Have Been Extremely Tolerant Of Harrys Ways, Especially Hermoine. Ron Did Show Some Unfair Jealousy In GoF And Let Himself Down By Walking Out In DH. But Apart From That He Has Always Stood By Harry And More Importantly Stood Up For Him.

Although I Do Not Like Harry A Whole Lot, Many, Many Of The Charatcers Do And He Makes Plenty Of Friends And Allies. Such As The Twenty Or So Members Of the DA, Who Help Him A Great Deal, Even Prior To DH.

In Return Harry Frequently Tells Them They Would Not Understand His Plight And Could Be No Further Help To Him... It Takes Some Arm-Twisting By Ron To Convince Harry To "Allow" Neville And the Rest Of The DA To ive Him Much Needed Help. In My Opinion This Is Very Offensive And He is Lucky To Have Such Eager-To-Help Friends As This Goes Over Their Heads.

However, Harry Has Earned My Respect As He Is The Most Selfless Character I Have Ever Come Across. He Does What He Does Because He Must. No Further Reasoning Is Required For Harry. If He Must He Will. He Walked Straight Into the Open Arms Of Death And Embraced Them. He Is Truly Heroic.

If I Were A Charatcer In HP, It Would Be That Defining Aspect Of Harrys Character Which Would Render Me Willing To Fight His Cause But I Would Be More Of A Team-Mate Than A Mate.
HpRwDmLover
[color=#993399] Well I started reading the 7th and i was like i think harrys going to die and the whole book lead on that he was going to die but i got down to the last few chapters and it all changed harry may have been ment to die but he was a horcusat and he was going to die and he gave him self to lord Voldemort to die but he lived while it destroyed the last horcust and it gave harry the power to kill voldemort but actrully harry didnt kill him his own wand did it back fired so its like the book is sorta open ended in my mind so yeah
*Priori Incantatem*
i kind of knew harry was going to survive, well i was never 100% sure but i just thought that the book would never continue if he died - JK proved me wrong on that in the Kings Cross chapter!

im glad he did survive and i think its right that he did, he died (sort of) to save everybody else because that was the only way to defeat voldemort and that was the most amazing act of courage and i just think he deserved it after all hes been through

as for the horcrux thing, i think iv mentioned before in another forum a long time ago, but to me (and no im not trying to sound bigheaded or clever by saying it) i kind of thought it was a bit obvious that harry was a horcrux and that when voldemort tried to kill him the first time a bit of him went into harry, but i was never completly sure until it was confirmed

so basically im just glad that harry got his happily ever after ending, well in a way despite the deaths and everything hes been through, things finally seem to be good for him and that makes me happy happy.gif
Arabella Doreen Figg
QUOTE(Mrs Figgy @ Jul 23 2007, 08:39 PM) [snapback]417283[/snapback]
Bless him. Harry was true and brave and decent right up to the end. He first faced V without a wand out expecting to die. Then at the end, he warned V to repent--gave him every chance-- and did not AK him, as I knew he never would. What a kid!


I expected that Harry would die in taking down Voldemort precisely because I knew that he would never cast AK. I thought that they'd both die in some "through the veil" stunt, because of course Voldemort was going to die.

I especially love that it was "Expelliarmus" which took out the most evil wizard of all time. The Death-Eaters laughed at Harry when he cast it, Lupin thought it was going to be his downfall, but Harry, good-of-heart Harry, always believed in second, third, fourth chances, and wouldn't do more than the bare minimum necessary to defend himself.

And, as much as it pains me to say it (because before DH the only character who I was as devoted to as Lupin was Snape) I love that Harry proved Lupin wrong. I just wish that Lupin had survived to see it. sad.gif I guess even the best teachers can learn from their pupils, right?
jimscott101
I don't think I have ever read a 600 page book with the need and the speed I read this one. My family wanted to know how it was halfway through and (to be fair and not spoil) I could only tell them it was "intense". And that intensity held until the very last page.

However--Carrying the Horcrux in a chain around the neck until they could find a way to destroy it, and being dragged into evil thoughts when they carried it.
Gee, have I ever heard this story before?

Tolkein lawyers got anything to say on this one?

On a more complementary note, the lesson from Serenity has been relearned well:

Definition of a hero: Someone who gets other people killed.

Its not fair but it really is the truth. And the level of death was as close to "realistic" as JK could have achieved without crushing the audience.

I just hope they can achieve that intensity of emotion in the film. Because if they do, it will be a masterpiece.
Arabella Doreen Figg
QUOTE(jimscott101 @ Jul 29 2007, 08:56 PM) [snapback]421969[/snapback]


On a more complementary note, the lesson from Serenity has been relearned well:

Definition of a hero: Someone who gets other people killed.

Its not fair but it really is the truth. And the level of death was as close to "realistic" as JK could have achieved without crushing the audience.


So Dumbledore was the biggest hero? tongue.gif Because seriously, Harry kept trying to not get others killed - he wanted everyone to go home and let him "do it self" and Snape was horrified that Harry was going to have to die.

In all seriousness, though, I get your point. Heros are not only the conquerors, but they're those that can make everyone want to fight. They are those who make people believe that the fight can be won... And by doing that, some will unfortunately die.
ptaz
QUOTE(jimscott101 @ Jul 29 2007, 07:56 PM) [snapback]421969[/snapback]

However--Carrying the Horcrux in a chain around the neck until they could find a way to destroy it, and being dragged into evil thoughts when they carried it.
Gee, have I ever heard this story before?

Tolkein lawyers got anything to say on this one?



There were so many ideas here 'borrowed' from other pieces of literature that none of them surprised me. We see things from Shakespeare, Lord of the Rings, Henry V and even a few Star Wars themes in this series. The only thing we learn is that there's nothing new under the sun.
AlEx KnOwS tHe TrUtH
I thought this book was really good...only I was expecting to cry at the end. And I didn't.

I was crying through other points in the book, and I felt that the 19 years on bit at the end was good. I didn't understand how Dumbledore and Harry were talking after Harry had just, in effect, died and ended up with Albus in Kings Cross Station that seemed to have the same effect as the Room of Requirement.

I was upset that Harry was made into a Horcux that didn't have to be destroyed beyond magical repair like the other Horcruxs. I don't mean I wanted him to die, I mean, I wish he wasn't a Horcrux.

When Harry was looking for his parents grave, I was in tears, I know what it's like to lose parents before you get to know them, and I know what it's like to not know where they are!

Btw: I thought the Snape story was top class! I think the way JKR made you feel glad he was dead at first, then make you feel so upsert tht you felt like that was really clever. I felt really sorry for Severus especially when he got skitted for what he was wearing. Suddenly, I felt as though I wanted him to be nice through out the sieries and so Harry could have befriended him and asked him for help rather than try to avoid him and loath him. Perhaps if only Albus Harry and Severus knew the truth about Severus? wub.gif

Any ways tongue.gif I guess that's it. lvya xxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxx
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singr
Harry is a Great Character! JKR did a wonderful job in misleading the reader thru Harry Potter character!
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High Five for JKR!!


I totally agree that JKR made HP a little babyish at times, but ultimately, JKR made him the heroe!!


I think the Horcrux is Harry is an OK idea--BUT-- putting him in the heaven-like area to talk to Dumbledore one last time was "BLOODY BRILLIANT!!"



It made me feel really sad, though!! biggrin.gif biggrin.gif


Singr


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QUOTE(jimscott101 @ Jul 29 2007, 07:56 PM) [snapback]421969[/snapback]

I don't think I have ever read a 600 page book with the need and the speed I read this one. My family wanted to know how it was halfway through and (to be fair and not spoil) I could only tell them it was "intense". And that intensity held until the very last page.

However--Carrying the Horcrux in a chain around the neck until they could find a way to destroy it, and being dragged into evil thoughts when they carried it.
Gee, have I ever heard this story before?

Tolkein lawyers got anything to say on this one?

On a more complementary note, the lesson from Serenity has been relearned well:

Definition of a hero: Someone who gets other people killed.

Its not fair but it really is the truth. And the level of death was as close to "realistic" as JK could have achieved without crushing the audience.

I just hope they can achieve that intensity of emotion in the film. Because if they do, it will be a masterpiece.



AMEN!!!!!!!
wintersun
i never suspected harry to survive, just because by book 6 he just was not powerfull enough to beat voldemort in a duel.

voldemorts dead was a bit of an anticlimax you could say, but i had already suspected it by the time it happened in the book so i wasn't that dissapointed.

i would have like a bit more info on harry just after the battle of hogwarts, cause that would have been one hell of an emotional time, happy because he saved people from voldie, but losing so manny people he had come to love...

French_Wandmaker
I was afraid that Harry might die, or Ron or Hermione, and I'm glad they didn't. Would have been awful. Dunno how I would feel today if it had happen.

There is one thing I'm puzzled about. I was convinced that Harry was a horcrux himself, until I read on a website (was it this one?) that JKR had revealed that no, Harry wasn't a horcrux... Did you guys see that quote from JKR? Or did I misunderstand sth? Anyway, it was good to be surprised once again.
weasleysarelove
I had it in my mind that either Harry or Ron was going to die, or maybe both. I got proved wrong, and I am kind of glad. At the same time though, I'm dissapointed. People died that i though would live, people lived that I though would die. But it was a good ride. I'm 16 now, which means i was 6 when i read my first Harry Potter book.

I don't think I've ever stuck with a series that long, nor do I think that I will ever again. Too much emotional heartache when they end, xD I felt as if I grew up with these characters, and now they're gone, so what am I to do now I don;t know, but I'll have to figure it out X.x
proffesor
I don't see how you couldn't like harry he is selfless and brave he diddn't want the spotlight he was able to see through others flaws ad was able to takes others advice and sometimes he did ignore others ideas and input but that is because he is the leader and as the leader it was his job to make the decsions not rons nor hermiones and when he told others to stay put like at the end he wanted the d.a to be out of the way it was for there safety even though he needed there help he couldn't have another death on his concious so don't blame him for that he would rather die then risk the lives of someone else and his outburst and anger in order of the phoenix was normal if you were the one who voldemort had bein trying to kill and you fought him and witnessed his return and then to have people keep you in the dark about what was happening would make you made too you would scream and holler to
Owl Handler
In regards to two above comments:

Firstly, the comment about the locket horcrux needing to be carried around and passed from one to another being similar to Lord of the Rings:

Although it has similarities to the Lord of the Rings, it was also completely different. Bilbo and then Frodo were the basic carriers and it was not shared as equally, and I don't think that J.K. Rowling should be criticised for this as I think that she has proven beyond any doubt that she has got more imagination and original insight than any other author that I know of. The story of HP with all the twists and turns makes LOTR and Narnia and such to be extremely straightfoward stories. Not that I am saying that J.R.R. Tolkien and C.S. Lewis did not have extreme imaginations also.

In regards to having to utterly destroy the other Horcruxes but Harry didn't have to be:

Well, the other horcruxes did not contain a 'flesh' part of Voldemort... that is why Harry could not die while Voldemort was alive.
dgutberlet
I must admit that at first I thought that Harry was useless. It seemed to me at first that all he did was complain and have Ron and Hermoine come up with ideas for him. Yes he in the end of each book he was the one to defeat LV but still.

After a while though I really began to like him. I found that he was cunning and clever. By the end of the series I was rooting for him more then ever.
taintedlove-xx
Harry, Harry , Harry , Harry,

the most loved character in the series, seeing as you know, they're written about him.

I was sure that Harry was going to live, I mean how could you just kill off 17 years of work ? For that reason I was positive that he was not a Horcrux, though both of these perdictions turned out wrong, at least he "came back" from being dead and was alive again (a little confussing I must say :S) and is now married to Ginny with his 3 kids ! biggrin.gif Though, the name Albus Severus is a little over the top Harry, could'nt you think of a better name, I know it's out of admiration butttt ! tongue.gif




Filius Flitwick
Well, when I finished reading the book, I was amazed as well as confused. I could not get it through my head as to why Harry survived the killing curse for a second time. However, my mind came to the conclusion that Voldemort was using the Elder Wand, the wand that belonged to Harry. The wand could not kill its master so it destroyed the part of Voldemort in Harry and left Harry alive.

What I was most intrigued with was that Harry was given the choice of life of death. These last chapters of the book are, in my outspoken opinion, some of the greatest sections of literature ever. They were filled with answers, questions, suspense, love, etc.

Harry is one of the greatest characters ever to come around in the world of literature (however I do put Frodo Baggins and Samwise above him). The time of Harry has now ended and I feel a need for the next great series that will come to our world.

~Filius~
pottermania001
YEAH YEAH HE did not die but a part of his soul was a horcrux so that was a kinda origin for the big connexion between harry and he who must not be named
singr
Yes, you are totally correct, pottermania001 and Filius Flitwick!!


Harry is a Horcrux. Also, I think that if Harry did know he was going to die a long time before he sacrificed himself for the greater good, he would not have been able to "re-live"

He did it all

"FOR THE GREATER GOOD"

singr
No.1_HarryPotterFan
I was very sure that Hermionie was going to die, based on interviews with J.K Rowling. I am very glad she didn't! I also thought that if she didn't die, Ron would. Again, happy he didn't.

I am glad none of the trio, Ginny, Neville, or Luna died. That made me happy, at least.
singr
I do not think JKR would have done that to us! The trio are important to the series. Hermione is another important character as well.

singr
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