Wow! Yes, he is a good man. That's where I would have cried, because I get caught up in the moment.

It's interesting, I think that the full audiences and extended run say much more than a lukewarm review. Not that I could comment on the play or the review, but the fact that it touches people is really what theatre is about, right? It was never intended to be something that met standards, because the only standards that matter to a real artist is the effect it has on the audience. It's a medium for story telling, and you say that it told an important story, so that's all that matters.

I admire him for choosing things that aren't easy. He's never been on an Oscar hunt, but he rather looks at things he thinks are worth it. This is one of those things that are worth it, but also require some effort to pull through. He fought hard for the play to be shown, not knowing what the reception from American audiences would be, but he believed the story should be told.

Funny how this doesn't surprise me, having seen his films. He just exudes sincerity, no matter what he's doing, and you can't help trusting him. That's his success as an actor and story teller, because stories that feel real are worth so much more than stories that feel fake. That's also where his charm lies and what gets fans swooning over him. He is soulful, honest, intelligent and brave.

Thanks for sharing that, Annie!

Oh, Annie, lucky woman!!!
You're right, Alan is a special, special man. You know, I am in this local Snapeist group, and some of the ladies there have met him personally, and they say that he's even MORE attractive in person, and he shows really less his age. If you want to have further details, I'll try to know something else....
As I said somewhere else, I simply can't resist handsome men with such brains, especially when they're so nice and talented -I mean he reads, and draws, and acts, and writes, and he's such a beautiful man!!-.

My second graduation professor is such a kind. Talking with these men is so interesting, and They're also a real feast for the eyes....Am I too material?
Pity they're all already taken.


Anyway, I wanted to tell you that I had a Snapeish professor when I was between 15 and 18 years old. He taught Philosophy and he was really ugly, but some of my classmates had a soft spot for him. There are a couple of further details about his life that make it a good comparison with Snape, but I don't want to tell them because I don't want to make him too recognizable. Anyone here with a similar experience?

I remember you the main topic:
What kind of man do you think Snape would be with a partner? We know his public attitude. What could it be a private one? any theories? what do you feel in your heart? and...how would you want him to be???

Bumblebee~ Lucky girl in getting to go see MNIRC. Sorry you didn't get to see him.
I totally agree. Beside the fact that I adore the man, Alan really is a great person.
Personally, I can not think of any other person that would do all the work and fight so hard for Rachel's story. I have heard nothing but kind things about this man from fans and even from press people. Alan is one of a kind and that is why we all love him so.

How true Capricorn.

What kind of man do you think Snape would be with a partner? We know his public attitude. What could it be a private one? any theories? what do you feel in your heart? and...how would you want him to be???
My opinion: I think that Severus is a kind, shy person. Though he may show a hard dislikable demeanor on the outside, I'm sure that he is completely different on the inside.
With a partner- he would probably act sarcastic, and/or a bit mean, but when they were alone together, he would probably act nervous and sensitive.
I love the dark and mysterious, brooding Severus, personally, but I can definitely imagine him bringing flowers and cooking a nice, elegant meal.
That's an idea though...songs that remind us of Snape or Alan!
Cool here's mine!
Whenever You Feel Like It by Kylie Minogue

This would be one of my favorite things, I think. Not the arguing, but the verbal sparring. I find that it's not best to use this type of sharp sarcasm and quipping in dealing with my husband and my children; when someone isn't used to it, or can't understand where it's coming from- it's more detrimental that mentally stimulizing. Since I definately don't want to be detrimental to my family, I refrain; but I'm more than capable! (Sigh, out of practice as I am!) But, almost sad to say, this is something that I would find stimulizing and enjoyable. Of course, I feel safe in saying this about a fictional character!

I see a lot of firelit evenings and time spent together, but reading or not necessarily talking. I definately see, yep-you guessed it, intensity. An exciting desire. I can definately see getting very wrapped up in who he is, and not wanting to share him! Not like he'd have a problem with that. . .

Ok. What's next? Songs?

There's one that I love, particularly in line with my fanfiction-"In Her Eyes" by Josh Groban. It' s on his new CD. I think of Snape - with whoever he loves in whatever world- every time I hear the chorus of that song. It's beautiful (Isn't it, Laurette!?)!

YAYYYYYY!!!!!
Ladies, first seconds of OotP trailer, starting with our Beloved's voice, and and a millisecond of him shouting to Harry"
Go at the VTM main page, and follow the link.

feedbacks, feedbacks, feedbacks!!! I'm so excited I could scream!!!!

I found Alan a bit...chewed, older than he really is, and Sirius too, awfully older. Shorter hairfor everyone but Hermione and Sirius: it seems they cut on haidressers' expenses in this movie)

Songs...I thought that Mean to me could be good for a HG/SS pairing...What do you think, Emily??

You're mean to me
Why must you be mean to me?
Gee, honey, it seems to me
You love to see me cryin'
I don't know why
I stay home each night
When you say you phone
You don't and I'm left alone.
Sing the blues and sighin'
You treat me coldly each day in the year
You always scold me
Whenever somebody is near, dear
I must be great fun to be mean to me
You shouldn't, for can't you see
What you mean to me


but there are several others...I'll post them later.

Clara...that trailer is such a tease...it's far too short...that's obviously why it's a teaser trailer!!

Because I have a really stupid sense of humour, I've decided to get my silly song out of the way first.

For Nevilles boggart of Snape dressed as his Grandmother it just has to be....Aerosmiths, Dude looks like a lady.

I'll come back with something more sensible later.

Annie, shame you didn't get to see Alan but you seem to enjoy yourself in spite of this.

Just a short notice to let you know I've update the site with a new section, "Share a laugh" and new members. I must say that I thought there were more Snape/Rickman fans out there!!!

The teaser is really short...let's wait until Nov.20th...

I love the little Snippet of the trailer because it has Snape's voice over! (Okay, Alan's.) It wasn't quite how I imagied "Then prove it," but then things rarely turn out the way I imagine them. I'm thoroughly teased and am ready to camp out in the theater until it comes out. (I'm only slightly off my center.)

Bye
I'm Italian, this is the first time on this forum. I hope you forgive my mistake.

I've seen the trailer and I like snape in the trailer.

I like Bellatrix, too. I think it is very difficult acting a role like that one.

Welcome AnnaFiore!!!
I'm happy you managed finally to get into the group of obsessed Snapeists on VTM... (we already know each other actually...BENVENUTA!!!). Another Italian Snapeist on VTM!!! yayyyy!!!!!

About the trailer, I have seen the complete one on Youtube yesterday, and saved it....hehehehe. It's official, all the hairdressers are busy with Sirius and Bella.

Sure, Bella is really scaring. Me too, I imagined her with straight, loose hair, and tall. Exactly the contrary of what Helena Bonham Carter is. But she's a great actress and we have already seen how Movie-canon is indeed another canon, compared to the Books one.

Judging from the trailer, Alan definitely represents the Movie-canon. The Book-canon, which I prefer, is at this point a million light-years far from its realization in movies. In the first two movies, he was fresh enough to make it believable. But not now, I'm sorry.
Indeed, he's supposed to be less than 40 years old, so how can a reader cope with the reality of a much older man? maybe only considering Alan Rickman as a new canon, different from the Books' one. That's how I can accept him as Snape and enjoy his acting, which is extraordinaire.

Sorry ladies but that's my opinion, and you know how much I love that actor, and how much I feel the bond with BookSnape.

EDIT : I've checked and the complete trailer is still at Youtube: you can take a look here until they won't delete it.

SORRY GIRLS, I HAD PUT THE WRONG URL BUT NOW IT'S OKAY!!!

Yup! It's great, and I think of Snape now too, every time I listen to it.

Clara, perhaps it's because I saw him before reading the books, but he brings something of book-Snape across that is quite true. I feel there's more truth in his portrayal than a lack of it, even if he isn't exactly what I picture book-Snape to be. The age doesn't make any difference to me. In fact, I think the fact that he looks older adds to Alan Rickman's mix of canon, if that makes sense. Where Alan might lack ... whatever it is... his age fills that gap, for me. He has more of a right to be cynical and authorative, and there's more inherent menace.

I was slightly disappointed with his comic portrayal in GoF, though, but I think that has more to do with the script and directing. There is something comical and yet tragic about Snape to me. He over-reacts quite often, and maybe I'm silly, but I laughed in PoA (the book) when Snape came barging into the hospital wing and shouting out of control. There was something mad and over the top about it that I found funny - yet sad, of course. So there always had to be some madness to him, but they just abused that element of his character in GoF.

We all have different ideas of who Snape really is, and somehow I enjoy Alan's portrayal very much. The trailer seems promising to me. It seems as though Yates has really latched onto the darkness of the world, and I hope he extends this to Snape, rather than making him a silly form of comic relief.

Witchmom: Sorry ladies but that's my opinion, and you know how much I love that actor, and how much I feel the bond with BookSnape.

Anna: I agree with you, Witchmon.

But i prefer a very good actor in the my beloved Severus role than a bad actor who resemble to the physical appearence.
IMHO, CG and movie tricks can't cange a bad actor in a good one. Luckily.

Witchmom: Sure, Bella is really scaring. Me too, I imagined her with straight, loose hair, and tall. Exactly the contrary of what Helena Bonham Carter is.

Anna: maybe I am crazy, this is the reason I don't want see the hp movies (I saw only same pieces with my children). After the damned book7 will be published, I 'll see all the movies.

Caricorn: and I hope he extends this to Snape, rather than making him a silly form of comic relief.

Anna: how can Snape be 'a silly form of comic relief' after book6?

(sorry, I'm not able to insert your quote)

Hey, ladies...very long post!!!





Yeah, Laurette. You made the point, and helped me in smoothing the distance between the two Snapes. Actually, I read the books after watching the first movie, borrowed by a friend. But, my idea of Severus, although the imprinting given by Alan, has developed from the books canon. I must confess that I'm an avid fanfic reader, and this has in some ways helped me in tracing a more precise profile of Severus: I've found some stories that fit perfectly into my idea of him.



This is a good subject for a discussion. Indeed, the rather controlled behaviour of Severus sometimes explodes in a fury that goes beyond the limits which he has settled himself. Who knows if this fits of pure anger are connected with his past, or with the terrible stress of living a double life?



Of course, I hope it, too; OotP is a very dark novel, full of angst and fear and pain.

But please, I didn't want to say that I don't like Alan's portrait of Severus. I find it really enjoyable and fully...satisfactory. It's just his appearance...but everything else is PERFECT. That's why I quote Anna here



Here's another couple of quotes:



I can't believe!!! really???? did you resist in seeing the movies???? How brave!!!



Well, I think that most people will be on the Marauders' side in the Worst memory scene. They will laugh on poor Sevvie!!! But it all depends on the scripts. Hope JKR will leave Snape his right place and role.

Have they changed the reply posting board format on VTM? I have a very strange screen looking back at me from my computer...let's just hope it all works the same. I have been trying to post on here since yesterday but everything is running so slow argh!!!

Hello everyone.....Issie and I have just enjoyed 1 lovely minute of watching the trailer on Clara's link. Snape/Alan does sound older to me. Or maybe they wanted Alan to put a bit more oomph into his voice, make him sound more....hard and scary or similar, to get away from the comic relief image in GoF.

Yay! Back on normal screen!

I read the first 2 books and almost immediatley thought of Alan Rickman, I practically read the character in his voice.



I can't believe that you have resisted the temptation! I couldn't have done that...no way jose!! I could almost join Janet in a queue outside a cinema right now...I'm so excited to see the new movie!

i've been wondering about this for ages and i have to ask: how old is Snape suppossed to be? i know alan is older but snape must be about the same age as lily and james would be and i have no idea what that is either... its starting to really bug me...

The Marauders are all in the same school year. That puts Snape's birth year in 1959 or 1960. Harry is born in 1980 and starts school in 1991, that makes his sixth year in 1996, with Snape's age 36 or 37.

Alan Rickman is a bit older than that. The clip is starting to show that, unfortunately.

Because I have a facination as to what inspired JKRto name her charaters as she did, I have been looking for definitions of Snape. Ofcourse there is Snape, a place in Suffolk, but I cannot fathom out any connection between JKR and this place. I did however come across this interesting little site that tries to explain the name. It also comes up with an interesting theory about Snape doing an apprentiship. What do you think???Why Snape?

Ladies, the site is updated with a new Section: What JKR says about Snape.



Thank you, Annie!



Thanks Elaine. I think that the Hp-lexicon provides some interesting clues on Snape's name origin in JKR's mind. Here they are:

'Snape' meaning:
- JKR says "Snape is an English village", probably the one in North Yorkshire near Hadrian’s (aka Severus’) Wall. This village also has a 'Snape Castle.' There is another Snape Village that is near Saxmundham, northeast of Ipswich near the Alde River.
- snape (v.) - 'to be hard upon, rebuke, snub,' c.1300, from Old Norse sneypa 'to outrage, dishonor, disgrace.'
- sneap: to nip; pinch; put down; repress; snub.

I'll add something else tomorrow...I'm too tired!!!

GoodSnape and Snapenight

My baby ius all grown up and doesn't need me anymore. Which is a relief because I am just too busy and bittersweet... hmmm.

So excited about Order of the Phoenix, just seeing the name after the trailer gets me uuber excited. Because when he 5th movie comes, it only means that we get to see the "SZnape's Worst Memory" scene, which I'm really excited about...

I've lost track of the point of discussions, and I just feel too lazy to try, but I'll try and get back on when I know what is going on.

So long, my lovely Slytherins.

Welcome back, Wednesday!!! Although I don't think we have been introduced, you're a legend here!!



You put in words what we all feel, I think!!!

Discussions: we have several topic of interest at the moment.

- What kind of man do you think Snape would be with a partner? We know his public attitude. What could it be a private one? any theories? what do you feel in your heart? and...how would you want him to be??
- Songs that remind us of Snape or Alan!

an older one, but still enjoyable, is
- Which kind of job do you imagine for Snape, if not teaching or making Potions?

and, in addition to these questions, also a comment (if you fancy) on Snape's Doubles that you can find at S.O.S.S. site. There have been already some comments on Marilyn Manson....

Welcome back again.

Clara )O(

NEW: JUICY NEW VIDEO OF OOTP WITH BEHIND THE SCENES...!!!

Oh my God, That's so amazing.I feel the need to squee!!! lol!!

I've just fallen in love with the Potterverse all over again!!

Isn't it weird Clara, that only the other day we were saying that the topic was staerted by Wednesday? And her she is, in the flesh as it were.

I'm just too exited after seeing that trailer to write more...

I saw the trailer last night, and now I'm even more impatient for the film to come out in the UK!! just re reading the half blood prince before the next book comes out too.

Glad to see Alan looking as fit as ever on the trailer

Enjoy this lovely capture, ladies....and tell me if it isn't already haunting your dreams..

I have support from a local Snape group (in italian...not international) and the ladies told me they have met Alan PERSONALLY. I saw the photos...and he's there, end of 2005 in London...soooo elegant after a concert...couldn't figure out which one. They told me he looks so much younger in person than in photos and in the movies...and I have no doubts.

Now a question:
Has any of (lucky) you got a signed ORIGINAL Alan/Snape picture? I've heard that he doesn't sign willingly Harry Potter's stuff. Did you know it? what do you think about? in the meantime I'm going to check on the web.

Goodnight!!!

No! I wish I had one, do you? If so TELL me!!!!!!!!! lucky!

Mod Edit: Please have a look at the forum rules. One liners aren't allowed as they don't contribute much to the discussion. Thanks!

ME!!! Me! I have one! It says 'To Laurette, Best Wishes, Alan Rickman'. Prized possession I can tell you! I wrote to him and got a very nice letter from his agent saying he was just able to sign it for me before departing to shoot Snow Cake. Heh. And a signed photo with my name on it... *dreamy sigh*

Thanks for that pic, Clara! I think it's my favourite shot of him as Snape, right up there with the shot in PS where Harry notices his gashed leg. Yeah... I am seriously weird.

I'm going into gush-mode again. All the symptoms are there. Oh no...

Anyway, on to a safer topic, that sneak peek is brilliant, Clara! My reaction was exactly the same as Elaine's! I have fallen in love with Potterverse all over again. I'm vowing not to read OotP for at least 3 months before the movie is released, because I don't want it fresh in my memory so I wait for scenes that aren't there. It promises to be quite a fair film in its own right, so I'll just try to forget what a wonderful book OotP is.

I pity the person I'm with next time I'm in the cinema and an OotP trailer is shown. They'll be treated to silly noises that would be me trying not to squeal like the fangirl I am when Clara's shot appears. Fist in mouth. That's the only way. I'd better not take in popcorn or I might choke to death.

Edit: Here it is!

Fantastic sneak peek!!

Laurette, I'm so envious of your signature! I wrote a letter to him but I never sent it; I thought "what's the point if I have nothing interesting to say? That is, something that would interest him, like that play I never finished writing -- it started off so well, but then I ran into plotting problems... I showed it to my friend Margaret today and now she is pestering me to get on with it. It was so good to hear her laugh so much when she read it... yeah, I do get a bit insecure at times. How many people do get offers from a small theater company to stage something they haven't even finished writing?? It's weird, now the play not all about writing something for Alan Rickman, it's something that took on a life of its own. I want to do right by it.

Right now, Melpomene and Thalia have gone on vacation. We're going out for dinner soon.

You guys are great, honest. I'm glad that this post has taken on a life of its own, I used to post here as much as I could, but getting caught up with other things (ugh... myspace for instance, blah) and school, I've just not gotten the chance to visit. It's really great top see so many Slytherin and Rickman fans, because it just feels sometimes like there aren't enough.

Had a cute dream about Ralph Fiennes by the way, but I won't get into the mush.

Now for questions:

- What kind of man do you think Snape would be with a partner? We know his public attitude. What could it be a private one? any theories? what do you feel in your heart? and...how would you want him to be??
I think he'd be a rather private person, a complete introvert, but if you get him started on a topic he likes, an opening to his mind can easily be found. Whether he wanted the job or not, he is obviously quite fond of Potions, a good way to get him to open up and learn more about him.
In my fantasy he'd be exactly like that, as well, and will be the man who will do the little things for you and make you feel like they're huge. Sit by you at the fire while you both read, discuss theories over wine.... sigh.


- Songs that remind us of Snape or Alan!
Oh, well of course "In Demand."
But at the moment, I can't think of anything else.


Whoot! And aha! Finally managed to start a Tom Riddle story thingy, my first, so that's exciting. A little bit of a personal best there, nothing much.

The picture in my avatar is a copy of my signed Alan page out of a playbill. Confess that I got it somewhere and not directly from him. Drat. Perhaps I should take the "write and gush" approach!

I love that preview! I agree with Bumblebee, though, he's starting to look older. Sirius looks older than his book-age, too, so I can forgive it. It's funny you mention about not reading the books three months prior to the movie, Laurette, because that's exactly the reason I read them close to viewing them! I enjoy the movies and the books as seperate entities, so I don't mind making some of the comparisons. I went into GoF knowing full well that they'd have to have deleted/changed half of it to make it fit nicely into a single-movie-sized plot. I liked it better than all the other movies, but it's also the movie I have the most book-continuity issues with . . . for obvious reasons. I like thinking about why and how they changed what they did to further the movie agenda! Talk about weird.

I had a point. I think. Can't remember what it was, though.

Just finished reading HBP for like the 3rd time, got me thinking.

Which side do you think our lovely Severus will be on in the last book?

very good question. i am still debating as to whether he is good or evil but i think that whichever he is, he will remain with voldemort for the main part of the book - i hope that doesn't mean we see less of him!- either keeping up appearences and continuing to get information that can be used against voldemort, or carrying out evil naughty deeds...

I know there are threads that cover this topic all over the place, because, hey, it's the big question for book 7 right?, but I think that our dear Sevvie baby is still on the side of good. I think he was just following orders when he killed DD, and possibly knew that Harry was on the Tower that night. (to the Yanks:) I hope everyone has a Happy Thanksgiving!

Ciao for now!

Hey!!!! No fair, I want one, you luck thing Laurette.

I don't know why this song popped into my head, but being the random nitwit that I am, this does tend to happen with frightening regularity!!

To Sir With Love by Lulu

Those schoolgirl days, of telling tales and biting nails are gone,
But in my mind,
I know they will still live on and on,
But how do you thank someone, who has taken you from crayons to perfume?
It isn't easy, but I'll try,

If you wanted the sky I would write across the sky in letters,
That would soar a thousand feet high,
To Sir, with Love

The time has come,
For closing books and long last looks must end,
And as I leave,
I know that I am leaving my best friend,
A friend who taught me right from wrong,
And weak from strong,
That's a lot to learn,
What, what can I give you in return?

If you wanted the moon I would try to make a start,
But I, would rather you let me give my heart,
To Sir, with Love

I can imagine HG singing this at the end of Darcy's fic when she has to go back to the future....*sigh*

OK own up who's torn the Parchment!!!!!!!!

Funny, isn't it? That after (what we at first assume) is an obvious sign that he is on the Dark side, we are suddenly hit with clues and possiblities that he is still with the Order.

Geez, that man is an enigma.

But if you haven't read Rowling is Framing Snape and Dumbledore some pretty clever facts and choices of words are pointed out to support Snape, though I doubt Dumbledore is still alive (I believe he had sacrificed himself for the war, and it would be too "Candide"-ish to bring him back and have Harry depend on him all over again), but it's very well argued.

Just popping in to briefly go off-topic and give you guys some yummy pictures to look at! I've been enjoying these for various reasons, depending on my Rickman/Snape mood.

A page of Alan Try not to faint.
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This one gives me the giggles. [/url] Might be because it's so late.

His left eye is REALLY well drawn! (and I mean our right, his left)

See what I mean??

Okay, and this is the one I'll be going to sleep on.

And fess up, ladies. . .anyone have one of these? I think I would have chosen a different picture, but ah well.

Now, I've got to go to bed!! What the heck am I still doing up?!

Thanks for the great pics passerby!
Nice article too Wednesday. Nice to see you back.
Everyone seen the trailor by now right!? You all better have!
Harry: I'm not weak!
Severus: Then prove it!
*dies*
Lord I love him. Can not wait for that scene!
I don't own any coffee cups with him. I'm a bad fan girl. But I did find this cup.
I really wanted to buy it. It was only about 5 dollars, but alas no.
So carrying on with pictures...
how i feel right now
Alan: want to sit on my lap? Me: OK!
Don't you want to squeeze it?
last but not least...
*sly grin, naughty thoughts*

Hello everyone! Don't be confused by my signature: lupin mught be my fav character,but I think snapey rules too.

(Hello Padfoot08!)

Rickman's voice...

*shakes head* anyway, I believe completely that snapey is innocent. Apart from all the evidence (which I won't say: I don't know it all and you've probably read it all anyway) I just have this feeling about it. It'd be the sort of thing JK would do: a swifty on us.

Besides, he has the best lines!

*cries* I haven't seen the trailer yet!!! My snape-obsessed best friend has!

Hey baz! Welcome to the SOSS!
Oh! You really should see it. Better than what I expected for only 58 seconds.
Snapey defintitely rules!
Though I must add, I am more of an Alan fan than Snape. But you can't love Alan without loving Snape, right? He just makes Snape so tasty and intriguing.

Hello ladies,
glad to see that the thread is so lively!!!
Welcome, baz and SpinJam (or Guin?)!! nice to have another Snapeist here...or Alanist?

I've been watching again and again the trailer...what to say...I don't know how I'll survive 8 months with all these screencaps that pop out every day...It sounds also a bit ridiculous..I mean, speaking to WB, if you already know that the movie isn't ready, why do you let the infos leak so easily?it's too soon...

About Alan signatures, I knew from the Italian Severus ladies that he doesn't like to sign Snape photos, because he doesn't want to be linked exclusively to that character, but also, there's a huge number of fans out there...much more than for the other movies! and he doesn't want his sigs to be sold to the best bidder on ebay. That's what I knew from them who have met him personally and talked to him!

Yeah, Janet, I'd squeeze, of course....

I wanted to recommend a Nine Inch Nail video, "Perfect Drug". It's really Snape-ish in its setting and Trent is doing his best to make himself a living image of Severus. Who knows why, I'm seeing him in the video as a mix between Severus and Sirius, and the house is exactly how I imagine Grimmauld place.
That strange liquid he's drinking is the Fee Verte, the Green Fairy...Absynth -it's a very dangerous herb!! But it seems a potion!

Hope you like it.

witchmom~ I have seen that video before and I thought he did try to imatate Severus for some reason. Trent Reznor is wickedly hot now. I prefer him with short hair, and no facial hair. Anywho,...I have also heard that he does not prefer to sign Snape photos, which I can kind of respect. People (and I think a lot of us get caught doing this) see an HP actor in a movie and automatically think of their Hp character. I have heard that once a woman came to him asking him to sign a Snape photo and he replied that he wouldn't and when the woman asked why not he said, "Because I'm more than that." which sounds a little stuck up, but if you think about it, he is more than Snape. He is a wonderful actor, director and artist.
*click me!*

I came back after a week, sorry.

I hope you scuse me, I was sick.



I think Snape would be a near-normal parter, we can't judge his attitude trough the way-with-Harry.
I would like to walk with him in a country and search rare plants and flowers.
If someone is gentle with him, he is gentle too. Do you remember how much he is gentle with Narcissa in Spinner's End (book 6)?

I think he would be a best 'magic doctor'. If the only way to explain his early interest in potions and dark arts.
he was wanderful with Draco in the bathroom, it seems to me like an E.R. TV scene!





I think he is good.
I thik he was always good, he was the dumbledore's spy between the Death Eaters (improbable but not impossible).

Ciao Anna,
welcome back...



Actually this reminds me that...for Lily Evans almost everybody is saying that he loved her, he was fond of her...But for Narcissa, although he is such a caring friend..the idea that he had a crush or maybe an affair doesn't seem so appealing to the fans, maybe because she's so snobbish...



yeah, actually I thought that he was great. Harry had used an unknown charm on a human being...he could have killed Draco. Luckily Snape came immediately in rescue.
(can somebody cast a sectusempra on me please? just to see if he....)

Soooo....
just to ride the wave, I came across this theory according to which Irma Pince, the librarian, would be Snape's mother/sister/relative/whatever.
I'm a prince is the anagram of her name.
What do you think about? any speculations? any theories?

I know this is totally unrelated but i came across this poem and thought immediatly of snape. maybe when his mother died, or when he was bullied or even when he had to kill dumbledore.
anyway hope you like it!

Angel Teardrops

My guardian angel, once careless and free,
flew into the clouds and lost touch with me.
His tears were cold and wet, falling on my face.
His smile had left us without a trace.

His angelic lips quivered, frozen and scared,
I felt rain clouds visiting, and had to prepare.
I knew that angels, often content,
were very special presents that God had sent.

To see one so sad,
so afraid,
so alone,
had made me weep while the cold winds had blown.

His wings lost feathers,
comforting and soft,
falling from the stars,
floating aloft.

His pain was felt throughout the land,
to feel true misery is impossible to stand.
I prayed so that when his hurting stops,
I'll be able to taste the angel's teardrops

Actually i am quite ashamed of myself for not noticing that.
In speculation, I wouldm't doubt that JKR would do something like that to us, but honestly I don't think that it means anything. Just mere coincedence, perhaps. I could be wrong.
Clara~ That is a wonderful poem! Thanks you so much for sharing it with us.
I kept imagining this picture while reading it.

I definitely believe that he would never consider having any kind of romantic relationship with Narcissa. I don't know. She just doesn't seem like the type of person he would want to be with. Not to mention Narcissa is devoted to Lucius and her son.

I forgot about that scene with Draco and Severus. That would have been very dangerous. Casting an unknown spell upon someone. If Snape hadn't created it, noone probably would have known what to do. And I agree with witchmom. Anyone want to cast it on me? definitely wouldn't object to having Severus rush to my side and care for me, perhaps
even lifting me gently and carrying me to the hospital wing, and I would wrap my arms around his neck... sorry what were we talking about?

*whistles* Woah! There are some cheeky people on here!!

But moving on...

I think he's be some sort of doc, too.

I think he'd be a very...I don't know how to explain it...soft-natured partner. It's true, we can't judge him on how he treats Harry (though sometimes i think the boy really deserves it..."let's just attack someone using this mysterious spell without thinking and without knowing what said spell does!" honestly...)

He and Narcissa?...yaaaarrghh. *shudder..twitch* it's true, Narcissa is too devoted to Lucius and Draco.

Plus she's dog-gone mad, in my opinion. She's so worried about Draco being killed when utilised in Voldy's plans. Well, that's what you get for marrying a psychopath.


*Does anyone mind me using "Voldy" as a derogetory name for voldemort?

*and, did anyone notice at the end of CoS movie Malfoy Sr tried to use the avada kedavra on harry? Like you'd do that in DD's office!!!

You know, I don't actually think Narcissa is all that devoted and loyal to Lucius. To Draco, yes. A mother bear will do anything to protect her cub. Lucius however, I think represents to her something more along the lines of power and influence; two things which she seems to hold very dear. I have always thought the idea of Snape having loved Narcissa was much more believable than him havinng loved Lily. I also think Snape's acceptance of the Unbreakable Vow to Narcissa shows a sort of level of compassion for her and her plight that he has never shown another-that we know of. He wouldn't have accepted an Unbreakable Vow from Bellatrix, nor do I think he would have done so for Lucius. It was something about Narcissa's plea, and probably the timing of the thing, that allowed him to accept.

Now I feel like I'm just rambling.

Is it a pleasant thought? Well, not at all! I'd much rather him have feelings for our dear president, Clara! (Assuming that husband's don't count in this particular fantasy land, of course.) I just have seen Snape's handling of Narcissa in the face of his appearance of weakness and his handling of Lily in the face of his weakened humiliation are very telling.

Hi guys I'm trying to join as many groups as I can tonight so I'll keep it short, count me in I want to be in S.O.S.S!
I am a bit on the fence with the Snape issue, he's not entirely good or bad but Dumbledore trusts him so that's good enough for me. I think he is both good and bad but he's there for a reason and that reason should become apparent soon enough.
He has been through some tough times, being picked on at school, being the loner, he's very self sufficient, a great character, I don't think there's anything with him and Nar, and I'm sure it's already been discusssed but I couldn't read the whole 60 pages previous *hangs head in shame* but he loved Lily for sure, in my opinion.

'passerby' I also think Snape's acceptance of the Unbreakable Vow to Narcissa shows a sort of level of compassion for her and her plight that he has never shown another-that we know of. He wouldn't have accepted an Unbreakable Vow from Bellatrix, nor do I think he would have done so for Lucius.

Sorry, english isn't my mother tongue (and even in italian it is very difficult to explain my feelings).

I don't mean Snape love (or loved) Narcissa. I mean: snape is able to be gentle with someone, he would be able to be gentle with a partner if he had a partner. :

I think Snape have accetted that Unbreakable Vow because of an agreemen with Dumbledore

for snape to do somethind that would put his ow life in jeprody for somebody he didn't feel some level of care for, is comletely out off character. not beacause he values his own life too much, but beacause everything he has done so far has been for either DD or Voldemort (depending on whether he's evil or not) and if he is good, he faces danger everyday, but not the type of danger that a blind fool would stumble into, but the kind of danger that a brave, dedicated person would face.
for him to risk the position that he has got into- close to DD & close to V- would go against everything he does.


oh!!!! what does Narcissa look like , i can't remember, but (completely contradicting myself) maybe when he saw her so upset he thought of his mother, and realised that this time he could do something to help, and also felt the need to do something different than what he had done for the past twenty or so years, because she brought out the young-snape-in-him???

lastly, i know this is a little off the subject but surely if beallitrix was there when the unbreakable vow was made, she would of told voldemort, as she is always trying to be the best. if she told hin then voldemort would have known that snape has loyalties/commitments to somebody other than him and MIGHT start thinking outside of the box, say.... in dumbledores direction..


if you haven't seen it yet, take a look at this trailer ladies!!
OoTp Trailer

and, did anyone notice at the end of CoS movie Malfoy Sr tried to use the avada kedavra on harry? Like you'd do that in DD's office!!!
Yes. Yes, I noticed that, which I think was funny, since the killing curse wasn't introduced until book 4.
Drinotonks~ if your serious about the SOSS, then welcome. However, if you're just joning to join, then I advise you don't. *Tried to put that as nice as possible*

This got me thinking. Sorry to all fans of Lestrange, but, I absolutely despise her! And it doesn't seem to me that many other Death Eaters like her either, because she is always out for number one. So,...why hasn't someone killed her yet? Death Eater or Order member.
A bit off topic I know, but I can imagine Severus killing her in order to protect himself, or someone else.

Mod Edit: As protective as I am of our little club, Padfoot, whoever wants to join is welcome - so just stick with a welcome message.

clara morgue
for him to risk the position that he has got into- close to DD & close to V- would go against everything he does.
Anna: yes, it seems out of character, therefore Snape made the vow because of a deal with Dumbledore.

clara morgue
because she brought out the young-snape-in-him???
Anna: How much is this image poetic? but he is human and full of contraddictions.

clara morgue
if beallitrix was there when the unbreakable vow was made, ... cut... if she told hin then voldemort would have known that snape has loyalties/commitments to somebody other than him and MIGHT start thinking outside of the box, say.... in dumbledores direction..
Anna: No, Voldemort knows there is a friendship between Snape and Lucius, and the Draco mission is to kill Dumbledore!
Voldemort will be sure Snape loyalty isn't to Dumbledore, he doesn't like Snape has commitments to Malfoys, but the vow will convince Voldemort Snape isn't with Dumbledore