I was VERY disaipointed with the epilogue. I actualy thought it was a waste of space in the book. I was banking on Harry dying in the end i was hoping that house elves would take over the magical world and over rule all wizards and witches. But yeah she completly left us hanging in the end. no follow up to anything important. it was just about harry,ron,hermione and their kids who were all stupidly named after noteworthy characters in the book. Horrible ending to a great seires of writings. J.K learn to write GOOD endings. -Thanks

it made me sad! i loved that they all got married bt i dont want it to end that quickly. bt it makes me giggle that they had kids and you know there is only 1 way to have kids.....

bt it made me upset that the tale is over. well at least i have the movies to look foward to. bt i think i will cry when they make the lst movie cause then there is no more HP to look foward to.
sorry got off topic there.
bt i liked the epilouge i just wish it was longer ALOT longer so i feel statified(check spelling)

bt i loved the names of the kids i just wish that r/hr named 1 of there kids after harry i thought that would be cute.

The deaths made me depressed but the epilogue cheered me up a little. I wish it had more details. I don't even know who draco married or where luna was..

The only good that I really saw to come out of the epilogue was the tribute to Snape. And that was more because I wondered how Harry might acknowledge him. The rest of it, I feel... was rubbish.

Like a lot of people have said, it was too short. I don't feel that it rapped up the series all that well and personally I would have been happier with it ending back in Year 7, with them being happy that it was all over or something like that rather than the epilogue that we were given.

I thought the rubbish with Harry-Ginny was really just to satisfy the already smug supporters that they DO get back together in the end and I have to say that the choice of names was really somewhat lame. I only became a Ginny-Unsupporter in HBP, but she was effectively a non-event in DH and I really feel that the final scene was just to show a G/H ending.

I was so INTO the rest of the book- I couldn't put it down and I really enjoyed reading it and wondering what happened next. But I feel that the epilogue was like reading a really poor piece of fanfiction- like other people have said. Not so much from the point of view that it didn't tell anything about anyone else, although that did bug me (I'd rather an all-or-nothing from that side of things), but I just felt that it was rushed. Like someone had given JKR a deadline and it got to the final hour, so she just stuck in what the fans predicted.

I think JKR wanted to end all questions...she was tired of all HP.

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The epilogue was satisfactory in my opinion and I understand why she had it pretty short although I would have loved to get a little more detail out of the epilogue. I guess I will have to just wait for the encyclopedia.

The epilogue was good if a little short. I personally think there should have been another chapter dealing with the direct aftermath of Voldemort's death and its affect on the wizarding world. This should have started with sevreral Daily prophet articles dealing with the changing wizarding world and the ministry(odds on that Harry was approached for minister but like dumbledore refused-then Kingsley became minister. The best one in decades for that matter)
I believe as well that after all this there would be a major rethink on the dementor policy(possibly they were exterminated and Azkaban was guarded by wizards). harry probably became an auror, ron might have joined George in the joke shop, hermione might have continued S.P.E.W. Ginny might have been an auror, dennis creevey becomes a photographer for the daily prophet. Luna becomes editor of the Quibbler(and finally discovers a crumple horned snorkack) lee jordan commentrary or radio... well sorry went completely off topic but in all fairness this was typed at 03:51am. iAh what the hell: The ministry in sight of the effects of "pure blood mania" adopts a more muggle friendly policy hence why ron learns to drive- or he just does it for Hermione. i also think there should have been more about the dursleys: there were always funny in cruel snape like way. I thought it was sad that Uncle vernon couldn't bring himself to shake harry's hand.Aunt petunia should have acknowledged that Harry was her nephew(after all she MUST have been stricken by her sisters death and just didn't show it and the fact that harry killed her sister's murderers must be sort of comforting). Lastly I think Dudley would have opened his eyes to al that has happened when they were growing up together and finally reaalised that harry isn't a freak. I think because of this he would have not followed in his fathers footseps and probably be a boxer-he might even still be in contact with Harry and become sort of friends(pushing it i know). now after all that i'm going to post this and someone will delete it for being too off topic.

I really, really thought the epilouge was very sweet and it never even crossed my mind Joe would write one. I do wish she had put more detail in it but you got the idea and in the short description that she provided, I thought was pretty poetic. I heard though that she's writing more about everyone's careers and such 19 years later in the Encyclopedia she's planning on writing. Here's the video clip, if you haven't already seen it, to prove it:


http://youtube.com/watch?v=gzpnRZ4HYS4

(it's at 4:09 by the way)

i am satisfied as a reader but as a fan i think it's too short but epilogues supposed to be like that you know
i like the part where harry named his son having lily's eyes albus severus coz i am a big fan iof snape hehe and his comment about snape's being bravest person he ever knew wow
what a tribute to the character i most loved
and the final sentence ending in all is well what a way to end it wow

I thought that the epilogue was embarassing and unnecessary. I would rather have seen an additional chapter of where they burried V's body, the immediate aftermath of celebrations all over the world, etc.

Perhaps I'm the only one that got the feeling that the epilogue didn't bring closure to the HP series, but instead left it wide open for future stories about the adventures of the Weasley-Potter kids. But, that's what I felt like when I finally finished reading and closed the book.

I tend to agree with seriouswhite in that the epilogue was unnecessary and an embarassment to the series. That is, the way it was written.

personally i didn't like it at all what was she thinking ,omg i've been desappointed albus severus what an original name you might be kidding
i wanted to know if harry and draco are friends after the battle ?and what if someone finds the stone and know about the hallows and try to find the elder wand at dumbledore's grave ?what will happen to the death eaters? is the malfoy family forgiven?did draco marry pansy?who is the permanent minister of magic because she said kingsley was minister for a while ?what will happen to teddy (lupin's kid)?How george can live without fred?is hagrid gonna marry madame maxime??
AND A LOT OF QUESTIONS SHE DIDN'T ANSWER jk if you hear me answer me

i also agree with iluvvictorkrum! that would of be awsome to see the weddings of ginny and harry and ron and hermione. o would loved that soo much cause i am a huge shipper of them!

Please Excuse Me, but, I totally think that was nessecary! I would not need to know where Voldy was buried.......as long as he was dead, right??

You know Harry is praised, blah, blah!


I loved it that JKR showed a hint of Harry's adult and father life!

I also personally think that JKR did not intend to make it an embarressment!

True it is a little scraggly, but, again repeated, Epilouges are supposed to be that way!

I thought that the epilogue was good but it didn't give as much information as I would have liked it to it could have told us what the jobs that they got were and not just make us watch the thing with JK. I love her writing but she should have given us more clues like what they became if harry went to snape's funeral and where Ginny and Harry are living and where Ron and Hermonie are living. Other wise it was good but Albus Severus is not a pretty name.

The epilogue, while I was glad of its existence, was lacking severely. It was too short too short and to give us just a taste of what the lives of the other characters' lives were like 19 years later was cruel. I echo the thoughts about George...what happened to him? What were Harry and Ron's Job? For that matter Hermione and Ginny's as well? Luna? Dean? Seamus? Mr. and Mrs. Weasley? Teddy Lupin...besides his girlfriend? Gosh, the Dursleys?

On that same note, I thought the epilogue did a fantastic job in leaving so many unanswered questions because those of us who write fanfiction will have a field day with the opportunity to explain life after Voldemort.

Yes, you are certainly correct!! Fan fiction is most likely flying off the hook with creative good amauture writers doing what they love to do!!


Great Points!!

I thought it was good but way to short. I would've liked to know tons more about everyone. Luckily for us J.K. answers some of those questions here. Just read through to see a bunch of them.

I did like the Albus Severus touch. I like that Malfloy's kid, Scorpius rofl , is teh same age as Rose and Albus. Although I'd like to know who the new Headmaster is and the DADA teacher and Tranfiguration.

Appalling, cliched and ridiculous and unneccessary!

Obviously I am against any sort of Ron/Hermione 'love' and was disappointed and disgusted to find they got married and stayed together for 19 years.
Ron was idiotic as always.





Ditto..She also catered to the R/H supporters also..

Harry and Ginny were so cliched it was unbelieveable...almost exact clones of Lily and James.
No doubt Lily and James Jnr looked like replicas of Lily and James also.

I also didn't like that Malfoy had bad hair line. His father didn't have one. And the staring....you mean to say that they had not come across Malfoy within 19 years? Or did they do this every year!

The only redeeming thing was Harry explaining why he chose to name his child after Snape.

All in all the epilogue was bad fanfiction and should never have existed.

I dissagree!!


It had many (countless) things in which we may now say "I definitely know that for sure!"


JKR did have many interviews saying more things about the ending of Harry P series...

singr

I thought that the epilogue was okay...There was more the JK could have put in but I liked how Harry told his son that he respected those two headmasters, Snape and Dumbledore. I knew all throughout the books that Ron and Hermione and Ginny and Harry would all get married and such. It was a given after Ginny and Harry went out in 6th book.
I also liked the fact that Draco like respected Harry but they werent "friends".
I do wonder what happened to all the other characters but I heard JK is going to write an encyclopedia about characters backgrounds and what happened after Voldemort went down.
Overall the epilogue was too short but okay...I mean she didnt want to write another book in the epilogue but could have given more detail.

duh!!! Of course the epilouge was short...they are supposed to be that way! True she could have given a little more detail, but I say it good!

singr

i didnt really like it. i hated the fact that harry and ginny/ ron and hermione ended up together. they grew up together, and ron and hermione didnt even date in the series. Harry and ginny was a childhood relationship and those almost 100% of the time dont turn into a marriage. the fact that all these childhood things stayed togehter for 19 years wasnt that realistic

I agree. PLus I thought it was kind of corny.

well it was alright to me but i also wanted more info, but on the other hand i didnt want it to be too long!!like 15 pages long..i think 5 pages was enough..she told us about the main characters..ron, hermione, and harry..she told us what happened to them..
i definitely did NOT think it was corny!!sorry iLoveYou and other people..no offense to your opinions on this, but i disagree..i think jk rowling's way was perfect..i'm also thirsty for more info on people..but if she told u everything..would you be here specualting aboiut all this? no..u wouldnt have been..u would have already have known everything...then what would have been the purpose of veritaserum except for the movies? the little things she left open were because of her fans!!she knew that people would miss harry potter badly so she thought of helping them..( i think )...they could live in their harry potter world a little bit more by speculating what would happen to the rest of the other harry potter characters..a little piece of the magical world is still left unexplored so she left it for us to explore..to speculate..and quite honestly, i am really glad she did.

I really liked the Epilogue. I mean , if you really think about it , it brings the whole story back full circle. We meet, mostley, all these little kids at the King's Cross station, where they are getting ready for the first year. To have the ending be there rounded things out very nicely for me. I do wish that it had been a bit longer and that we could have had more information about some of the folks we have come to care about, but , hey, JK left us wanting more ...and that is the mark of a good story.......when you never want it to end. She could have wrote another 200 pages and I still would have wanted it to be longer. I really like that after all the dark and scarey things......we are left with somethng that is lighthearted and amusing, just to show that old Voldy did not suck all the happiness out of this world.

... and trite.

What was also disappointing was the 2nd War and Harry’s journey and ultimate sacrifice appeared to be for naught. The context that allows the rise of an Evil Dark Lord still exists. Slytherin House is still condemned by the Wizarding World, and one-fourth of the innocent 11 year olds, who are sorted into it are destined to be "evil". So much for the vaunted "House Unity". Harry’s statement that it’s all right to be sorted into Slytherin is immediately invalidated by the cop out that the Sorting Hat will allow little ASP to choose between Slytherin and Gryffindor.

Waaay too short. I wanted to know more details about what else happened, and also more description on the children. I wanted to know how Teddy turned out looking like.

Who is Victoire? I remember James saying, "...snogging our Victoire!" "Teddy will really be in the family now!

Who is she and how is she related to the family?

i thought the epilogue was good. jk didn't tell us everything, but if she were that would be a whole other book entirely. i thought it was great that harry and ginny named one of the sons albus severus. this book was by far my favorite.

Here is a link that can direct you to more information about what happened to the rest of the people and their jobs and stuff. JKR was interviewed about it.

the info is more at the end
here is the link again
Harry Potter info

Enjoy!

i thought the epilouge was great. if it was any longer it would have been too much and would just start rambling. i thought JKR crammed a good bit of information in the epilouge and was sooooooo glad that harry and ginny got together and while i was innitially against ron and hermoine i was also very glad that they were married and had kids. and it was a relief to know that after 19 years although they were older, the characters were still themselves. i loved the fact that harry named his kid Albus Severus because it showed that he had finally forgiven Snape. i was dissapointed that nothing was mentioned about George Weasley because he has always been a favorite of mine. and i was curious to see how he was doing without fred. and i was glad the teddy was alright. and that all of the friends are still as close as ever. i must say that i loved the kids because they were just so fun and much like their parents. i was glad to see that ron was still funny haha. i really loved the epilouge.



i think that Victoire is Fleur and Bills daughter because the name sounds like something Fleur would come up with and he said that Voctoire is their cousin so it would make sense

Victoire is Bill and Fleur's daughter. I think she is their first born.

I find the line, "Teddy will really be in the family now!" a bit repulsive. It seems that Rowling wants every Weasley and Potter to be related! I suppose that's why OBHWF is so appealing to her.

If this continues, it won't be long before the Weasley-Potters interbreed themselves into distinction! They'll become a backwoods Bubba culture, like the characters in the movie, Deliverance.

Dueling Banjos anyone?

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=esl2NNOtHQE...ted&search=

I sort of wish I hadn't read the epilogue. I don't really like thinking about the characters as all grown up.I would have liked to know what kind of careers the characters chose though instead of what they named their kids, They did mention Neville's career but that made me dissapointed I thought the way Neville was portrayed in the 7th book made it seem like he would become famous working with plants or something ( maybe a great leader). And what happened to Luna.
And how did George act and live now that his twin was gone.
Also James talks about cousin Victorie can anyone explain to me who she is, like who are her parents.
And to talk about Malfoy I don't think he married Pansy cause I don't think Malfoy could still like her I don't think he is really evil. He was just raised with the wrong views and ideas but he changed. The epilogue does show that.
And can someone tell me what Percy was doing? Was he working at the station? cause I can't really picture him doing that.

I am sorry to all of you who liked the epilogue, because, well, I hated it.
I thought it was too short. It was, a little cheesy... Too many characters, and we really don't know what happened to everybody. Yeah, so Harry and Ginny (as well as Ron and Hermione) get married and have several kids and blah blah blah. We don't know what happened to everyone else. I could care less about their numerous offspring.. And the names of the kids... Come on! It provided no information. Hey... I just realized that the trio are all related. Spooky isn't it?

Here is a review by book critic, Sam Anderson:

http://nymag.com/arts/books/reviews/35534/

if you don't read any portion of this two page review, then at least go to page two where he writes about the epilogue ...
... quote: "Rowling wraps things up with an epilogue that is, hands down, the worst piece of writing in the entire 4,000-page series. Harry and the gang, now all thirtysomething and blissfully intermarried, reappear at King’s Cross Station to drop off the next generation of wizards at Platform 9¾ while reveling in har-har family-sitcom humor. The final sentence is remarkably bland and awful, the linguistic crystallization of Rowling’s cop-out: “All was well.”"

Sam Anderson isn't one of those critics who just praises Rowling, but rather gives an objective view of the entire book. And, writes it in a humorous sarcastic way. I love it!

Agree 100%! And the fact that the trio are all related just adds to the fact that the epilogue is so cheesy as pratically everyone we hear about on the platform is a Weasley/Potter!!



That is so true and sums up the epilogue perfectly!I can understand why JKR wanted the epilogue to take place at Platform 9¾ because the story has kind of gone full circle but there was not enough information about other characters!!And another niggle i have is that there was no 'trio' banter.It was all Harry talking to Ginny and their kids, and Ron talking to Hermione and their kids!! Harry and Hermione didn't even talk to each other! JKR was obviously trying to show how strong and successful their marriages are and how there are all one big happy family

You guys seemed to expect a summary about every single character J.K. Rowling ever invented.

You guys would obviously hate the ending to a Series of Unfortunate Events, then. I won't give it away, but it's a huge cliffhanger...

You guys have to respect the fact that J.K. Rowling would be criticized even more if she wrote a 500-page epilogue about the lives of Dean Thomas and Andromeda Tonks... She had one chapter to end the series, so she wrote that.

I, truthfully, would have prefered it if there was no epilogue, and she ended it with the chapter 'The Flaw in the Plan', but I am overly happy with the epilogue, knowing that she's writing an encyclopedia for all of you epilogue-haters.

Oh yeah, and one last comment. I believe that every single person who hates the epilogue only hates it because they really don't want the series to be over, and they were expecting a lot more to satisfy themselves.

Nicely said

I, for one, liked the epilogue. After all the deaths and other dreadful events that took place, it was nice to see a good old happy ending. Of course, I would have liked to learn more about the lives of other characters, like George and Teddy Lupin, but that would probably have made the epilogue lose its sense of finality. So, the only thing not to my liking was really the mention of a balding Malfoy. Guess he didn't get his father's genes for long Paris Hilton hair..

Okay, so maybe the fact that we don't want the series to be over is part of the reason we hate it... However, we're looking at all of the epilogue aspects. Maybe lots of you want a 500 page epilogue, however, I don't really. The point is, the epilogue wasn't detailed enough. I also think it was kind of a shippers' chapter, the end of a cheesy fanfic. (I don't mean to offend you if you did write a fanfic with that type of ending!) It was good to see a happy ending, and that Harry gets his deepest desire... But, I just think it wasn't really.. satisfying. Sir Cadogan, it's not that we want a summary of every single character ever mentioned. (Like, say, William Slinkhard, the writer of Defensive Magical theory.) We just want to know what happened to everyone, (well, characters like Luna) not just Ginny and the trio.

I agree 100% with that. The encyclopedia will explain the smaller deatils, but the epilogue just gave us a bit of closure.

Quote: Rowling wraps things up with an epilogue that is, hands down, the worst piece of writing in the entire 4,000-page series. Harry and the gang, now all thirtysomething and blissfully intermarried, reappear at King’s Cross Station to drop off the next generation of wizards at Platform 9¾ while reveling in har-har family-sitcom humor. The final sentence is remarkably bland and awful, the linguistic crystallization of Rowling’s cop-out: “All was well.”
--- Sam Anderson, book critic New York Books

I have to agree with Mr. Anderson, the epilogue is the worst piece of writing in the entire HP series! And, the way the epilogue is written leaves it wide open for many, many fan fics. Who knows, maybe Rowling is already writing, "The Adventures of the Weasley-Potter Kids".

Instead of telling us things in interviews (where she forgets what she said from one interview to the next ) ... I hate when she does that! ... Rowling should just go ahead and write her encyclopedia and tell us what became of the other characters. I'm not asking to find out about the very minor secondary or tertiary characters. Wht I want to know are questions like - "What is George doing now?", "What happened to Luna?", "Did Neville marry?", "Where is McGonagall now?", "Did Hermione ever remove the charm she cast on her parents?", and so on.

I also want to say that I didn't care for the way she depicted Draco in the epilogue. And, the fact that the Weasley-Potters were staring at him, like he had been bat-bogey hexed or something! It seems that 19 years hasn't changed the Weasley-Potters attitude towards Draco. How immature. Yet, Draco, with a simple nod of his head in their direction when he saw that they were staring, seems to have behaved with more maturity and class.

I liked the epilouge. I understand that JKR couldn't write everything about all of the characters. To do that, the book would have ended up being over a thousand pages long. The epilouge gave us a simple explanation to how the trio faired after the war, because they were the main characters.

I think saying that the epilogue was the worst piece of writing in the HP books is a little too harsh. Although, considering that the rest of the writing was pretty good, the statement can be interpreted as a compliment

While I agree that the epilogue (as well as some other parts) was a little cheesy, I think it was a nice change from the dark and gloomy mood that especially characterized the last few books of the series. Anyway, JKR would have probably got just as many complaints if, in the last chapter, Harry had ended up dead, Ron and Hermione refused to speak to one another for the rest of their lives, and Ginny married Krum.

I ws a little disappointed at the epilogue. It was a little to short for me. But I can understand why. With JKR only giving us a little of what has happened in the future it gives her the ability to write about it again. She has said in several interviews something along the lines of that she may still write more about Harry just not in a specific time frame. She will write about him at her leisure with no due date per say. I personally expect her have another book written and published about Harry in a couple of years but probably not any time soon.

No, I hated it for the same reason as Sam Anderson hated it - because it was "... hands down, the worst piece of writing in the entire 4,000-page series." I don't give a flying hippogriff that it's all over...I was actually satisfied with the ending, overall. I just hate the fact that..."Harry and the gang, now all thirtysomething and blissfully intermarried, reappear at King’s Cross Station to drop off the next generation of wizards at Platform 9¾ while reveling in har-har family-sitcom humor." Which wasn't funny at all...as I've said before, it was so awful that when I read it as a spoiler, I was so convinced it was a badly written fanfic that I was prepared to declare unending adulation for Ginny if I was wrong. I think I've declared my utter loathing of Ginny quite vocally enough during my time here for anyone who read my comments to know that I would never say such things if I hadn't been 100% sure that it was a fake. Boy, was I wrong. And I stand by what I said then....that JKR deserves a smack for writing such utter rubbish.

It was shockingly awful writing, that's the plain and simple truth. I've read fanfics with better endings. I'm sorry, but anyone who liked the epilogue only liked it because of the glimpse into the future lives of characters. No-one with any understanding of literature whatsoever could possibly say that the epilogue was good. If you liked it, it's a personal thing, and I'm happy for you. But it was God-awful writing. I wonder if that had been the first submission to a publisher or agent from a new writer whether it would ever have been accepted for publication at all.

i would have liked to know a bit more about some of the characters like george etc but i think that there was a lot there. originally JKR was going to have the name of every child born to the weasly lot since the downfall of LV. excuse me but how boring would that have been . i no that there some people would disagree but there is going to be an encylcopedia so we'll have to hang on

i liked how all of the characters were still themselves in the epilogue

I was so looking forward to that! Does this mean that you are reneging on your promise Louise?

I have now reread the book a couple of times, and I must admit to getting to the penultimate chapter and thinking very seriously about the worth in continuing beyond that point. Indeed, when I first read it, I was looking for the glue line, thinking that someone had added the last few pages to my book as some kind of joke!

Is this the ending that JKR has had written since the beginning? Or was the ending she discussed, Voldemorts ending? I hope the latter because if this epilogue had been the plan for 17 years I am pretty sure that she can't possibly had reread it, otherwise she'd have realised that it was utter pants.

Note to self...go on internet sites that sell T'shirts embossed with I luv Ginny for Louise!

I agree with you, missginnypotter, I would have also liked more details about their future life, not just only about their family. But yes, the encyclopedia will be interesting.

However I'm not sure that it will be better to know everything or just thinking about it Of course I'm looking forward to read it, but maybe this uncertainty is better. That reminds me, when will it be released? I read that now JK wants to take a rest- it's totally clear-, and as far as I know there's no exact date of it.

I was thinking about the epilogue the other day when it occurred to me that it probably would have made a better Prologue to book one! Harry would have been having a flashback while standing at King's Cross getting his kids on board the Hogwart's Express. The flashback would then lead to the first chapter in book one. Of course, this would have given away the final pairings, but then, the shipping wars would have been avoided. Which is not a bad thing.

The epilogue in book seven would then bring Harry back to the present, standing at King's Cross waving goodbye to the kids. Rowling could then write, yet another book where she can tell us what became of who, etc. She would almost have to, since there are still so many loose ends in DH.

For me, the epilogue, as it is, was wayyyy too cheesey. With the wrong pairings. But, that's just my opinion.

I didn't really like the Epilogue at all simply because it didn't really tell us anything new. I already knew that Harry would probably marry Ginny and the same with Ron - Hermione. It also told us about the children but that didn't mean very much.

It was also too short and I had hoped it would at least tell us what the characters went on to do etc.. but, you cant have everything.