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FireryPhoinex
Most of the movie is spent sitting in the same place and doing nothing but thinking about what to do next. That isnt ideal for a movie. And they cant just cut most of it out becuase there are date in there. Like The end of the year, christmas, Harrys birthday. Its just going to be a mess. And by the way im not trying to make the book look bad cause i really liked it
bobafettish
The first two movies were them sitting around in the Library, classroom or common room until the end....and they were good
xxxamyxxx
To be honest i dont doubt for one moment that this movie isnt going to be any good the first three were great but it went servierly down hill form their in my opinion for example order pf the phonix lived upto my expectations, i expected it to be rubish and i think it was but i loved the book.

I think the first 3 were perfect, the 4th i havent watched properly but i completly dislike because they changed the plot and the 5th everything happened so quick that it wasnt fun to watch at all i didnt understand half of it.

I think it will be better if its slowerthe anticipation of waiting around is great!I also hope that if daniel radclif is still playing harry by then that his action improvers i thinks its terrible in movie 5!
Animagus_Black
The fact that directors keep switching is the problem. Personally I didnt like Chris Columbus's films. PoA was terrible in my view. The only problem with GoF is Emma Watson because of her over-acting.

Order of the phoenix is by far the best and I think David Yates is the best director so far so Im looking foward to HBP. I doubt that the trio sitting around in a tent for hours on end will be filmed. Perhaps some more of the epilogue may be filmed. I really hope that they film more then 4 pages of epilogue.
azlin
Sitting in the same place and doing nothing?

There were many places mentioned in DH, more so than in prior books. From the opening chase, to the wedding to GH and finally the battle at Hogwarts, the movie should be far more than sitting around discussing what to do next. Even a shortened version of the escape from the bank will be entertaining.
dan
Precisely. The battle as the Order collect Harry, The wedding at The Burrow, Grimmauld Place, Getting the locket from the MOM, Luna's House, Malfoy Manor, Shell Cottage, Godric Hollow, Gringotts, Hogwarts? I rest my case
FireryPhoinex
QUOTE(dan @ Jul 28 2007, 01:40 PM) [snapback]420544[/snapback]

Precisely. The battle as the Order collect Harry, The wedding at The Burrow, Grimmauld Place, Getting the locket from the MOM, Luna's House, Malfoy Manor, Shell Cottage, Godric Hollow, Gringotts, Hogwarts? I rest my case



They were only at most of those locations for a couple of hours, besides grimmauld place where they talked to Krecher and that and the letter were the only interesting things

marauders gal
It's all personal opinion isn't it?? I loved all movies so far!!

i mean there's bound to be some boring parts, but it wouldn't be the same if it was action packed either. There's loads of different places in DH. Yes they were only there for a few hours but they were still important places too!! It would be weird without most of the places, and then there would be even more complaints.

Personally i don't think it will be waiting around, and i look forward to when it comes out...but that's just my opinion!!

.x. emilee .x.
pureblood_narcissa
I've also enjoyed all the movies so far, they are not completely accurate to the books but what can you reeeally expect?! They have around 2hrs to cut it all down !

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Most of the movie is spent sitting in the same place and doing nothing but thinking about what to do next. That isnt ideal for a movie.


To be honest there IS a lot of sitting around planning but it's all very relavent and INTERESTING, I felt this book is quite action packed!! Loads happens! And we learn so much!
Infact I feel they will be hard-pushed to fit it all in! The Battle of Hogwarts for example is worthy of a film of its own! Haha.

NM
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etphonehome
Being more of a fan of the books than of the movies, after the first one I decided that if I was going to get any enjoyment out of them at all, I would have to view them as seperate entities.

I always detatch them from the books, it saves being disappointed. I still don't like it when the directors change things, but I get more irratated when they add things for the sake of it, like when they added the learning to dance sequence in GoF...what was that all about.

That said however, I have high hopes for DH, whoever directs it. It's the last movie and I am sure that the dirsctor and Warner Bros, will be determined to go out with a bang!
pureblood_narcissa
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Being more of a fan of the books than of the movies, after the first one I decided that if I was going to get any enjoyment out of them at all, I would have to view them as seperate entities.

I always detatch them from the books, it saves being disappointed. I still don't like it when the directors change things, but I get more irratated when they add things for the sake of it, like when they added the learning to dance swquence in GoF...what was that all about.

That said however, I have high hopes for DH, whoever directs it. It's the last movie and I am sure that the dirsctor and Warner Bros, will be determined to go out with a bang!


Well said.
Furthermore, the books, especially the 7th, are close to JK's heart
She has some say in the films and I'm sure won't let them mess this one up!

NM
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WhispWillow
QUOTE(Animagus_Black @ Jul 28 2007, 06:02 AM) [snapback]420393[/snapback]

The fact that directors keep switching is the problem. Personally I didnt like Chris Columbus's films. PoA was terrible in my view. The only problem with GoF is Emma Watson because of her over-acting.

Order of the phoenix is by far the best and I think David Yates is the best director so far so Im looking foward to HBP. I doubt that the trio sitting around in a tent for hours on end will be filmed. Perhaps some more of the epilogue may be filmed. I really hope that they film more then 4 pages of epilogue.



Aha! Someone who agrees with me! Not sure if that was the directors fault or not, but Emma overacted a bit too much in Goblet of Fire and was more mature than she was meant to be.
Ladie Lily Potter
I think if David Yates directs it, it should be really good. I walked into Order of the Phoenix not expecting much because I had heard that it wasn't good but I walked out in awe. Yes they cut a lot of stuff but they can't put everything into it! That would make for a 6 hour long movie! If they don't cut too much out of this film, it should - I hope - be a brilliant way to end our beloved series.
azlin
QUOTE(FireryPhoinex @ Jul 28 2007, 02:39 PM) [snapback]420599[/snapback]

QUOTE(dan @ Jul 28 2007, 01:40 PM) [snapback]420544[/snapback]

Precisely. The battle as the Order collect Harry, The wedding at The Burrow, Grimmauld Place, Getting the locket from the MOM, Luna's House, Malfoy Manor, Shell Cottage, Godric Hollow, Gringotts, Hogwarts? I rest my case



They were only at most of those locations for a couple of hours, besides grimmauld place where they talked to Krecher and that and the letter were the only interesting things



In a movie though these scenes would take up quite a bit of time. They are most likely going to try and put in the most dramatic and entertaining scenes, that is if they want to make money by drawing people in, and WB is all about the money.
Arabella Doreen Figg
QUOTE(etphonehome @ Jul 28 2007, 02:28 PM) [snapback]420820[/snapback]
Being more of a fan of the books than of the movies, after the first one I decided that if I was going to get any enjoyment out of them at all, I would have to view them as seperate entities.


I agree. I actually wasn't much bothered by the plot changes in GOF because, IMO, they were still true to the spirit of the characters, true to the spirit of the novels. I actually even liked GoF. And as someone who has worked in TV production, I know that what works as written word often does not work on-screen and vice versa. As long as the films are truly "based on" and true to the work, I can usually appreciate them on their own merit.

Maybe I need to see OotP again, because while it is easily my favorite of the books, the movie disappointed me. And it wasn't because of the plot changes
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but because I just wasn't pulled into it. I didn't believe in the "magic" of the entirely hidden magical world, and I didn't care for the battle at the ministry. The film felt, to me, as if it was all just a set-up to get us to the battle rather than the telling of a story. I just didn't feel that the film was very good, as a film.

I fear that HBP and especially DH will disappoint me in the same way. A lot of DH isn't about the final battle, it's about the magic of love, (not eros, but phila) the magic of a not-just-a-fairy-tale-fairy-tale, the power in bravery, friendship and community. I fear that DH will be again just a set-up for the final battle and Molly Weasley using the [curse] word. mad.gif
pureblood_narcissa
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I fear that HBP and especially DH will disappoint me in the same way. A lot of DH isn't about the final battle, it's about the magic of love, (not eros, but phila) the magic of a not-just-a-fairy-tale-fairy-tale, the power in bravery, friendship and community. I fear that DH will be again just a set-up for the final battle and Molly Weasley using the [curse] word.


Now you're getting me worried!
If Yates' directed OotP he is going to take care to consider his criticisms as well as his compliments! Hopefully by 6 he will have learnt what Potter fans are looking for.
A lot will be put into DH...Jk I'm sure will become more involved in the final film? Being so important to her as a book.
You're right though, there is much more to DH than the final battle,
there are more important factors like Snape and Lupin/Tonks' relationship. There's loads.

NM
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*Priori Incantatem*
i hope that they dont include too much of the camping stuff, that would be a bit boring in my opinion. i hope they do however show all the places that they go to - lunas house, godrics hollow etc. and that they dont just cut them out, as they have a tendancy to do so but i have a funny feeling that they will cut out luna's house as its probably just going to be hermione explaining the story in the movie...

im slightly worried about bill and fleurs wedding though, i mean they completely cut out bill in the 4th film and now also in the 5th. i think theyr in a bit of a pickle for the 7th unless they plan of missing out the wedding and all the stuff that happens in shell cottage mellow.gif a bit dissapointing

i think it will be full of action and drama but, despite being used to it now, im just worried that they will miss loads of stuff out or mix it up a bit so it isnt exactly what its like in the book unsure.gif
Kate13
I have been slightly disapointed with all of the movies so far. I just pinned this to the fact that I had read the books about 20 times each, because my friends that have watched them and haven;t read the books really enjoyed the movies. I don't like the fact that everything is so short and the stories are changed slightly eg. OOTP, Cho was the dobber. Books can be longer, so they can show emotions and describe events better.
No.1_HarryPotterFan
I hope they don't cut any of the important things out. They can cut SOME of the camping out, but the trip to the Lovegoods' house is essential. So is the wedding, Grimmauld Place, and all the other places.
-Jasmine
Mrs.FredWeasley
in the 7th movie, ihope they cut out a couple of deaths. mainly, freds. its sooo sad because he dies making a joke, which was what he did most of. and...and...i wouldnt be able to handle it.
xxkrakenslayerxx
I hope they don't leave too much out for this movie,
and I REALLY hope that they don't add stuff in that doesn't need to be added.
(unlike in GOF b/c I thought the whole 'learning to dance' thing was quite funny!)

They can cut out some of the camping stuff
but there is alot of stuff that happens in the tent
like POTTERWATCH and Phineas Niggelus(Sp?)

I agree with Arabella Doreen Figg.
The Final Battle will be a big part of the movie
but that's not what it's all about.
Merlin_most_baggy_y_fronts
i have a bad feeling that if ANYTHING is cut from the movie, i'm going to be completely devastated!! if they cut MALFOY MANOR OR BATTLE OF HOGWARTS, i'm going to scream. i kno they cant keep everything in, but i simply cant imagine the movie w/ out ANY of the scenes in DH...wow, we're gonna need a real genious for this one-i'm so scared!!

btw...i think that deathly hallows was great and i thought that it didnt have alot of sitting around. ok, maybe alot of the movie they're planning, but there are TONS more scenes that they have. omg, if i was producing or directing the movie, i would FREAK OUT! but i pray it'll be as good as the book.
No.1_HarryPotterFan
I hope beyond ALL hope that they will not cut anything remotely important. They can cut a LITTLE of the camping, but everything else is really important. I mean, maybe the beginning, not so much, but after that, everything needs to be in.
Battlefield2142
since this is the last movie i think that they shouldn't take anything out. since its the last they should show everything and make it the best movie of the series. but we all know that they are gonna cut things because they just want to get it done by a certain date.
utvolsfan15
they need a new director... no david yates. he put almost none of the book in the movie. get the director from CoS because he took a short book and made a 3.5- 4 hour movie including all info in book. david yates could have made ootp 5.5 hours with the book he had but he did 2.5 hours instead. nobody can truthfully tell me that 5.5 hours is too long. it would be a very good movie that way if they dont leave anything out. people loved the lord ot the rings movies and all of them were at least 4 hours long. i personnally would have loved to see the movie be 5.5 hours and i wouldent get bored. now that the movie is made, they arent gonna make a new ootp so it kind of spoiled the third best book. i hope that they dont do this to the last and best 2 books/movies.
baby_nurse
The films will never be good as the books; they rarely are. They have to cut too much out, and alter bits to explain the bits they've taken out hence why I rarely bother with the HP films. That and the fact Daniel Radcliffe and Emma Watson aren't the most talented actors to grace the planet, especially the latter. In fact, I only bother watching the films on the few occasions I have so I can lust after Alan Rickman.

But you're right, the film probably won't be that great except maybe the battle of Hogwarts.
Voldemorts-daughter
QUOTE(utvolsfan15 @ Aug 11 2007, 01:09 PM) [snapback]432545[/snapback]

they need a new director... no david yates. he put almost none of the book in the movie. get the director from CoS because he took a short book and made a 3.5- 4 hour movie including all info in book. david yates could have made ootp 5.5 hours with the book he had but he did 2.5 hours instead. nobody can truthfully tell me that 5.5 hours is too long. it would be a very good movie that way if they dont leave anything out. people loved the lord ot the rings movies and all of them were at least 4 hours long. i personnally would have loved to see the movie be 5.5 hours and i wouldent get bored. now that the movie is made, they arent gonna make a new ootp so it kind of spoiled the third best book. i hope that they dont do this to the last and best 2 books/movies.



well put!!!
lately the movies have become soo disappointing. they cut out important scenes but added un-important parts in the movie. i really did not enjoy ootp. i really hope they just put all the scenes in DH that will help explain the story and show how harry ends up doing the things he does and why he does it. not just have it as if harry had it planned the whole time.

Pure-blood Slytherin
I just hope that Chris Columbus does not com back cuz then itll be to happy. David Yates shood definitaley com back or else ph34r.gif
No.1_HarryPotterFan
Hmm... I wasn't too big a fan of OOTP, because he cut out WAAY too much. I mean, they totally watered down Snape's Worst Memory! I hope he doesn't come back. (No offense)
Pure-blood Slytherin
I don't know, you just dissed my dawg Yates, i might have to beat you up... mad.gif , just playing tongue.gif
xdarkserpentx
I know that I'm deffinitely not going to get my hopes up for this movie, all I want is some nice eye candy from Daniel Radcliffe and Tom felton haha but other than that, I'll just see it for the sake of seeing it. It'll be nothing compared to the book because the book was so amazing so I think that even if the movie is better than OOTP it is still going to get the most criticism.

My worst fear is that they're going to filter the movie, as in make it more PG for younger kids. The book had a lot of death in it and the most gore, especially with the George's ear.

It'll be cut much shorter too unfortunately but hopefully they don't follow the current trend that the films seem to be doing, getting shorter and shorter as the books get longer. We'll see how HBP goes first and hopefully it'll lead up to DH better than GOF did for OOTP.
iluvviktorkrum
It certainly wont be as good as the book. duh! but what i think would also make it terrible is the movie will be short and lots of details that we all love wont be in there. i think those are the Main reasons of it being bad
Seriouslysirius
Well i see your point really there, because the book was about detail and peices things together so i quess it will be really hard to do in film. Though there are quite are load of action sequences like the escape from Privet Drive and Christmas and that. I've no dobut they will pull out all the stops for the battle of Hogwarts. Though wethere they make the bits in between any good is the big thing. I hope they will at least. Though i agree the book will most certainly be better as it has always been with the movies.
baz
"Why It's Going to be Terrible"

A tad bit pessimistic, eh? We don't even know who's directing. (I heard rumours of Kloves, but there you go). Let's wait until we see HBP before we start crying.

DH has some kind of linear plot, whereas OotP was just...bleh. Good bleh, but bleh nonetheless. OotP was filler. And a completely different story. I wouldn't jugde from that one.

big_al
I couldn't disagree more with the original poster's comments. Personally, I feel that the final book is by far and away the most filmable and cinematic of the entire Harry Potter series. Other than the details on the ownership of the elder-wand, there is little that will need to be explained to the viewer - we will just be invited to watch the trio go about the destruction of Voldemort.

It contains a thrilling opening (the chase away from a flying Voldemort) and an explosive finale - with many potential set-pieces in between (the raid on the Ministry, breaking into Gringotts etc.). It's was said that they spend too much time sitting around in the countryside. This may be the case in the book - but in the film this can be dealt with in minutes - a couple of brief scenes showing a gradually tiring trio in several different locations. The director will spend the time on the parts of that period that matter - such as the trip to Godric's Hollow and Ron's return.

If anything, there may be too much action -from the moment of Harry's return to Hogwarts to Voldemort's death alone could take 45 minutes - that's one third of a lengthly (2 and a half hour movie). You will not be bored.
billydabomb
Well...
I know that the book is the best thing I ever read.
And I think they can make it into the best movie I've ever seen.
You'd be surprised at the stuff directors can do...trust me...they're pretty smart. They will keep in the important stuff most likely and probably cut out lots of the hanging around in the tent and stuff [you have to admit, that part was sometimes boring]. But I know they can do an awesome job on all the action and I'm sure they will.
big_al you've got a point when you say that it is very filmable. Because it is. It is much more filmable than Half-Blood Prince which includes all of the complicated horcrux business.
And I think that they will keep in the gory parts. But i'm sure they will cut down on it a bit, but hey thats why they made it PG-13 right?
Sofia_Snape
I agree with the first post that a lot is just sitting and plotting and to a point these scenes are needed because they tell us key things such as Dumbledore's past but these key speeches will be cut down just as in OOTP, DD's talk to Harry at the end was very short!

They'll just have to really glorify the action scenes won't they? but I feel with the many different settings and characters, it's going to be hard to find some continuity lac.gif
d0bby-x0x
Oh jeez...There's so many scenes thats going to be terrible...

Such as the people dying!!! Dobby! Poor you!
Ooh, I actualli wanna see the battle! Those scenes must be pretty hard to film aye?
Yeah...No negative comments
Sofia_Snape
sad.gif It will be sad when loved characters die but they need to spend TIME over it (unlike they did with Sirius sad.gif ) in order to get the full drama and sadness eeek.gif
billydabomb
Oh i KNOW.
I did not get ANY effect of sadness from OOtP when Sirius died.
I thought that was horrible.
J.K. took a long time on that part...they should of in the movie.
Smart Owl
Personally, I think that DH is so complicated that it will take a master director to get it just right. And with the way the movie industry is these days, I wouldn't count on it winning any Oscars. In fact, none of the HP movies have. (Except for stuff like"Best Costume Design" and really, I don't care whether Harry's robes are black or pink or whatever.)
The only person, in my opinion, that could make DH an Oscar-worthy film is Peter Jackson. With the LOTR trilogy( which, by the way,won TONS of Oscars) he proved to the world that he is the master of the battle scene. Yet he also can get the emotions down pat. While I'm fantasizing, I'd REALLY like to be an extra during the battle scene at the end. I'm a great actress, I think.
billydabomb
PETER JACKSON!
That would be AMAZING!
Wow...I bet he would do an awesome job with it. He is really good at battle scenes and I bet he would be good with the emotion of it all! I will be crying 24/7 most likely.
I am so excited...hehehe
baz
Jackson?! Oh, yay! He made me like battle scenes during LotR, and I don't even like the movies or the books!

He might even make a long movie, a lot of people would like that. But with LotR, the producer or something was a big fan or they were really good friends or something, so they let him have free reign. I don't think WB would be like that.

But we can hope.

People please, calm down! It might not be so bad! Really, wait until HBP! See what that does to set up what happens in DH...if that blows, then...ready the pitchforks! laugh.gif

(Actually, get your hopes REALLY low, so when you'll see it it'll rock.)

It's all to do with the director, well, most of it. And everyone's never going to be happy anyway.
Lily/JamesForever
I AM TERRIFED ABOUT THE MOVIE. They are going to have to cut so much. It can't be cut to much because it will confuse the people who don't read the books. They will have to cut some of the traveling. Not to much though. Can't see what else they will be able to cut though.
No.1_HarryPotterFan
I do not know what they will cut. I mean, anyone would have thought that they would need the whole prophecy in OOTP, right?!? I mean, if they can cut that, why can't they cut... oh, say... ron walking out? Useless bit of fluff.

Okay, I'm being sarcastic now. But I almost don't want to see the movie. Yikes.

-Jasmine
Misto
Actually I think there is so much pre-written "for the movie" (at least that's how I feel about the book) that there won't be much place left to let anyone sit around at all. If you made only half of the battle scenes exactly the way they were described in the book then I think Star Wars will be a boring old-fashioned light-show in comparison
Just my two cents... unsure.gif
Padfoot_Sirius_Black
Well....

See we all want different parts into the movie, its just over packed with good scenes in the book. Its hard to pick the right scenes, so dont get mad the director if he doesnt pick the scene you wanted in. I mean, its a packed book, with action and drama. Its a forfull story with alot of parts and scenes. So like i said dont get all made if the director doesnt pick the part you wanted. We will all just have to wait until the movie comes out to actually see if they put parts we wanted into the film.
I_Love_Hermi
They cut way to much out of the Order of the pheonix, In my opinion! It wasn't even that long either, they could have easily put at least some of the quiddige scenes. & they didn't even put the part when Hermione kisses Ron on the cheek! I was so mad!
-Kit Kat
nevillesgirl
You know what would be completely ironic? If Severus Snape somehow gets a major part in the final movie. I mean in the book, he has such limited time except for the end and his memory. Book seven started out promising for him with chapter one then he went missing. What if in the movie they add stuff in for him? I think that would be terrible...especially since he had such a vital role in OOTP and was inexplicably cut mostly from that movie as well.

I have high hopes for the final movie simply because the directors should have taken all the facts into consideration from all the books to every interview and information that JKR reveals from now until production. They should have no excuse to leave any stone unturned in regards to the Series Ending.
Gwenog
you know what is their main problem?
they cut neccessary facts out and add things that noone needs
as I said my mate didnt get OOTP without me telling her...she was like.."why does this happen?" I mean things were not developed as good as in the book...so she even didnt get the main idea of LV fooling Harry by showing Sirius tortured bla...(did they show it in the movie? I dont remember..lol)
the first two movies were brilliant...important things and clues were included and it was very well done but eversince the third one the director tends to cut important facts... or changes them and adds silly stuff noone needs to know to get the plot...
so now that they have left sooo many things out..how are they supposed to add all this into the 7th movie? not at all..that is why they will be cr*p in doing it...they will fail...awfully..
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