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melonhead2
I just thought that I might say that I think that aunt Petunia is a witch. I say this because of many reasons.
1. That would definately be something "HUGE" about her.
2. This would also explain as to how she knew about Dementers in the fifth book, and I think that it was a bit odd how she heard James talk about them in passing but she knew that they guard Azkaban, and I think that she knows more than she let on when talking to Vernon.
3. I think that she was very jealous of Lily (the talk about Lily coming home with frog spawn in her pockets and doing magic)
4. If she was a witch I think that she maybe went to Hogwarts for a year or two and got expelled. That is my reason for her jealousy of Lily.
5. I also believe that with what JKR said about the howler meaning that they have been in contact more often than we know.
6. This would also strengthen the thoughts about why The spell (or whatever lingering protection was left through Lily's bloodline might work)

So here is my challenge, [COLOR=red]Prove me wrong.[/COLOR]
zyra123
Hi, melonhead2! Welcome to the forums!!

If you'd like to introduce yourself, you can do so at the Introduction Thread in the Lounge forums...

There is a similar topic about this question here.

But it's been a rather old thread, and yours seems to have the potential to invite new discussion on it...so I'm not gonna close this down. But if you've found anything interesting from the other thread, please feel free to bring them here... wink.gif
Abdicate
Didn't Jo explain that Aunt Petunia isn't a witch? Think about it, in the books, look how much Aunt Petunia despises the magic world...
Louise
Erm...JKR said she isn't, so that's pretty much all the proof I need really.........
zyra123
Right... Petunia is not a witch. JKR said that of course... but she's not a squib either... she said Petunia is a muggle... with a 'but' and a bit of laughter at the end... I think that says something... although, I'm pretty much sure it will be revealed in Book 6
melonhead2
hey, I'll tell you the truth, there is no arguement that I can say that is worth arguing with JKR. But if somebody would lead me to a quote by JKR that states that Petunia isn't a witch, I would be really interested in it.
I'll admit that I hadn't seen or heard that she had said that.
Thanks for clearing that up.
Abdicate
Woops rolleyes.gif, Jo announced only that Aunt Petunia is NOT A SQUIB... Maybe she could be witch? huh.gif
zyra123
QUOTE (melonhead2 @ Dec 15 2004, 03:04 AM)
But if somebody would lead me to a quote by JKR that states that Petunia isn't a witch, I would be really interested in it.
I'll admit that I hadn't seen or heard that she had said that.

The quote below are from the Edinbough Book Festival Interview.

QUOTE
Is Aunt Petunia a Squib?

Good question. No, she is not, but—[Laughter]. No, she is not a Squib. She is a Muggle, but—[Laughter]. You will have to read the other books. You might have got the impression that there is a little bit more to Aunt Petunia than meets the eye, and you will find out what it is. She is not a squib, although that is a very good guess. Oh, I am giving a lot away here. I am being shockingly indiscreet.


She said Petunia is not a Squib.

Petunia is a Muggle. By that, we assume that she's not a witch either... although there seems to be something there while she's a Muggle. Not an ordinary one she is... that's for sure...
melonhead2
thanks for the quote,

Now that I see it I remember that she said that, and since JKR said that Petunia is a muggle then I feel that it is safe to say that she is not a witch. Thans for proving me wrong.
I guess that the real question about aunt Petunia is what does the "but" mean after she said that she is a muggle?
any ideas
RG's Babe
now that ive read that quote i cant really understand the "but"s either. why did she keep putting them in there? anyone know this? i knew she wasnt a witch but it would NOT be cool if she was cuz then she might become a DE or sumthing. she HATES magic anyway! i also knew she wasnt a squib but that would be cool!
melonhead2
going back to my original statement, what if the "but"s had something to do with jealousy. I was talking to a friend of mine and she mentioned that perhaps she was spying on Lily and James because of her jealousy.

As far as Petunia becoming a death eater, I don't think that is an option for Petuinia because I think that LV would rather kill her because she was really the only thing keeping him from killing Harry. I say "was" because of the end of GoF, after that LV could then touch Harry and not be in any kind of pain. Really, I don't know, I just think that Petunia becoming a death eater is ridiculous.
Czar
Rowling is quite known for her abilities with words, right? Well, what if the "but" concerning Petunia has to do with the eyes. Rowling has indicated that there is a connection with Harry's eyes being like Lily's, and if Petunia is related to her by blood, then doesn't it stand to reason that Petunia's could very well be part of that connection as well? Rowling did say that some of us may have noticed that "there is more to Petunia than meets the eye." It would be a very sly way to make that hint too....
Nick
ok, we know shes not a witch or a squib, but there is a lot more to her than meets the eye. What that is i have no clue, but there is! lol
HogwartsHopeful90
she definitley has some sort of power because harry is safe if he's there....'cause at the beginning of OotP he had to stay there after Petunia got her Howler from Dumbledore....and at the end of GoF, Mrs Weasley asked Dumbledore if Harry could stay with them, but Dumbledore said that he had to go back to the Dursley's, but only for a while....hmmm
flmnghotcheeto
I think your being completely stupid even suggesting that. Of course Petunia's not a witch. Her sister was one so she's obviously going to know a little bit about the wizarding world. She completely hates anything to do with magic. Besides if her sister married a wizard also she would have gone to the wedding and met them. She still kept in touch with her sister some because she knew she had a son around Dudley's age named Harry. They just didn't want Dudley to have anything to do with Harry so they never saw her sister anymore and also since Vernon hated wizards and witches he probably didn't want to see them either.

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Brandi
Well, it is obvious that there is more to Petunia than we have seen so far,and being a witch isn't that far fetched really. I have seen some really good arguments for it in this forum. I think it is a little unfair to call anyone stupid for having a different opinion.

I think perhaps that Petunia is something we may not have been introduced to as yet
I heart SIRIUS
It's true that she isnt a witch ( Cause of Jo's quote) but maybe that bit of "old magic" that DD told harry about might give her some powers. unsure.gif
Eaglefeather
Now, I don't know if I remember this right, and I can't find the quote, but remember reading something about a person that manages to perform magic late in life in desperate circumstances. Do you think that could be Petunia?(If I remember correctly that is). If anyone else remember reading something like that, could you please give me a link. It's been bothering me all day, and I'm starting to get really annoyed with my inability to find it. I'll keep searching though.
Quality Quidditch Supplies
I heard something about magic late in life, but I seem to think that it was someone showing more power; not completely new. But I could be wrong, it's been a while since I saw that...

Anyway, back on topic. Petunia is not a witch, or a squib. She's a 'Muggle but.." err...whatever that is. wink.gif
secretkeeper
Petunia is a muggle and only a muggle. The only way that she can know about this stuff is that her sister has told her stories or she has been sent owls or by post about what has happened to Harry in the previous term.
potterchick24
okay well let me first say i really belive that petinua is not a witch. but i do find it possible that she was accepted to hogwarts but never went. so she might be magical, but knows no spells and is totally in denial.
hm...just my thoughts : huh.gif
beulah98
figuratively speaking--she is a witch! but literally speaking, i don't think so. there may be a major shocker exposed about her in the upcoming book, maybe she is a squib? but i don't know about a witch. your supports are interesting though...
Luke_57
In an August 2004 interview, JKR clearly stated this:

Aunt Petunia is not a squib nor witch, she is a Muggle. But there is more to her than meets the eye, and we will find out what that is. She is not a squib, but that is a good guess.
queenie
ok, well petunia is not a wittch because she hates the wizarding world and if she was a witch, why would she have kept the truth from harry for elven years before hargrid told harry he was a wizard in the first book?? huh.gif
Rita Skeeter
Ahhhhhhhhh.

However QUEENIE! wink.gif

She could be cpvering up to herself and everyone around her that she is not a withc when she is.

Think about it, that could be why she hates them so much, as a kind of defence thing.

Ok I'll shut up now cos i rambling on!!!!
DatoT
Petunia said in 6 book something big informationto Wizards.She knew who are Dementors.None from magls dont know abaut this Creature.
she is half magl and half wizard!!! biggrin.gif
traz-ak
I have little to base this theory on, but I've long been considering the possibility that Petunia may actually have been born with some magical talent, just like her sister, and was accepted into Hogwarts, but she refused to go. Being muggle-born and having magical talent indicates that she is not a squib, thus following JKR's statement that she is not one. But she could also not really be considered to be a witch if she refused training and insisted on being "normal." This theory could explain what "more" there is to Petunia, as it has been stated that she is neither a witch nor a squib.

On the other hand, I sort of got the impression (as others have, I believe), that Petunia actually seemed somewhat jealous of Lily, and if that were the case, then that doesn't do much to account for why she would not want to become a witch as well. But... it's just something to consider...
thegirlswholovelupin
I don't think she's a witch because she is way to snoody to be one. Maybe she was a Slytherin if she was one.
mwiederrecht
Why did JKR introduce us to the Kwikspell course in book 2? Probably for more of a reason than telling us that Filch is a squib.

What if Petunia Dursley was actually really jealous of her sis all along and has been trying to learn magic with the Kwikspell course?

That would also be a connection between book 2 and 6 since we know there is supposed to be one.

Just a thought.
Raiden2
QUOTE (Luke_57 @ Jun 19 2005, 06:22 PM)
In an August 2004 interview, JKR clearly stated this:

Aunt Petunia is not a squib nor witch, she is a Muggle. But there is more to her than meets the eye, and we will find out what that is. She is not a squib, but that is a good guess.

I never understood how the theory of Petunia being a squid came up, because if Lily is muggle born and Petunia is her sister (means they have the same parents ^^) then Petunia's parents are also muggles and squibs are muggles that were born for wizards, so how could she be a quib? laugh.gif

I thought that the theory of her being a muggle born wich was possible but since JKR said she isn't then she can't be.
traz-ak
QUOTE
I never understood how the theory of Petunia being a squid came up


Ah! Now, Petunia being a "squid," now that's an interesting possibility!... Just kidding. I quite frankly never really got that theory either, as a squib is a person who is pure-blood, yet has no magical talent, whereas Lily and Petunia are, of course, muggle-born. I still think it's a possibility, though, that Petunia could have some magical talent and got accepted into Hogwarts, but refused to go. It's a debate whether having magical talent actually qualifies her as a witch or whether she would need some training to really be one, so this is pure speculation... but I like to think of it as "possibility." Quite frankly, I wouldn't go and bet the farm on the theory. It's a flimsy one at best. But who knows? What else are we here for if not to consider the possibilities?

QUOTE
What if Petunia Dursley was actually really jealous of her sis all along and has been trying to learn magic with the Kwikspell course?


I think this is a pretty interesting possibility too. I doubt if Petunia would still be trying to learn magic, but if she really was jealous of Lily, I wouldn't be surprised if she had a go at it when she was younger. It might help to explain why she's quite so bitter too. Good theory!
Czar
Is it possible that Aunt Petunia is a Seer? This is flimsy at best, but Tonks asked Harry if he had any Seer blood in him in OotP. Maybe he does. Rowling did say that Petunia Dursley is neither a squib or a witch, she is definitely a Muggle, but that there is more to her than meets the eye. Her Inner Eye, perhaps?
Marko Potter
I dont think Petunia is neither a witch or a squib. Maybe she is jealous of Lily cause she wanted to be a witch, or maybe she was in love with James Potter!
Hermione_Resilda
Nice theory, Czar. In the third book, when Harry was doing his exam for Divination, he told Trelawney that he saw Buckbeak the way his is, without his head off, and that he flew away, in the crystal ball. He was right. Buckbeak did get to keep his head and he did fly to safety..
Maybe that proves something, even if Harry was making it up.
Kingsley
I think Aunt Petunia could possibly be a squib or even maybe a witch that got expelled from Hogwarts. I have no evidence to support this. It is merely speculation.
Albus-wan
It has been pointed out that JKR said that Petunia is a muggle, but she added a "but". It's possible she meant to say that she is a muggle right now, but under extraordinary circumstances will become a witch.

She did say that she was being "shockingly indiscreet" in saying that she wasn't a squib but that was a good guess. It would have very interesting implications in the story if she did use magic.
El Verte Veritas
Shes a muggle.
She tries to do magic.
Dudley knows.
Dudley's Dementor was walking into Petunia doing magic
Petunias a Spinner
A Spinner is a muggle who tries to do magic.
Chapter 2 - Spinner's End.

Its that simple. What I really wonder though is how of all the things she heard about magic or tried to do, why did she remember the Dementors. Has she seen one? Are Spinners illegal, and she was told about them, when threatened with Azkaban possibly. Thats what I wonder.
the accomplice
QUOTE (melonhead2 @ Dec 15 2004, 01:16 PM)
thanks for the quote,

Now that I see it I remember that she said that, and since JKR said that Petunia is a muggle then I feel that it is safe to say that she is not a witch. Thans for proving me wrong.
I guess that the real question about aunt Petunia is what does the "but" mean after she said that she is a muggle?
any ideas

I hawve a fealing that she has something to do with the spell keeping voldy away from their house at privit drive
darkflux
JK Rowling has already said petunia is not a witch.
magically delicious
A quote from JKR from her Edinburgh Book Festival Q&A


QUOTE
Is Aunt Petunia a Squib?

Good question. No, she is not, but-[Laughter]. No, she is not a Squib. She is a Muggle, but-[Laughter]. You will have to read the other books. You might have got the impression that there is a little bit more to Aunt Petunia than meets the eye, and you will find out what it is. She is not a squib, although that is a very good guess. Oh, I am giving a lot away here. I am being shockingly indiscreet.

griffindor girl
i think that petunia was gust so gelous of lilly and that is why she knew all about the azkaban and the dementors being the gards (or used to be anyway). i think that petunia was hangging on every word that lilly tolled her parents about the wizarding world and became so gelous that she tried to forget but gust couldn't.
what do you think?
Sirius_Obsessed
no i clearly remember reading Jo's comment on a website confirming that Petunia is "truly a muggle" therefore obviously not a witch (http://www.madamscoop.org/themes/book6-7.htm) - its the 13th point from the bottom
Now unless Jo was lying to us, and i truly doubt that, then i reckon we are safe to conclude she definitely isnt a witch.
But i do have a theory on it on which i started a thread already but it was closed & i was directed here. If you notice, there are two bits of information on that website that Jo has decided to share, and they are:

1). "There is a character who does manage in desperate circumstances to do magic quite late in life, but that is very rare..."

and,

2). Aunt Petunia is truly a muggle, but there is "a little bit more to Aunt Petunia than meets the eye." "She is not a squib, although that is a very good guess. Oh, I am giving a lot away here. I am being shockingly indiscreet."

Could it be that she is the character who 'does manage in desperate circumstances to do magic quite late in life'? Because that would still make her a muggle, not a squib and not a witch, however it would definitely mean there is 'more to her than meets the eye'. My guess is that that desperate circumstance would be her trying to save Harry.
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