imissdobby
Aug 18 2007, 04:54 AM
I finished this book a few weeks ago, and JUST realized.. How did Neville get the sword to kill the snake if the GOBLIN took it???
I totally forgot how he even got it. Did it come out of the sorting hat? I don't want to re-read it i'm re-reading the 5th book now lol
marrymerupert
Aug 18 2007, 06:47 AM
I believe this was because Neville was a "true Gryffindor". Remember in the 2nd book when harry had the sorting hat on and asked for help (in the chamber) and it gave him the sword? I think it did the same thing for Neville. I think this shows that the goblin lied, and the sword truly was made for and did belong to Gryffindor. I think that since the sorting hat and the sword both belonged to Gryffindor, he was able to put a sort of jink or whatever on it to link the two together, so even tho Griphook had the sword, when Neville asked for help while wearing the hat, he was able to pull the sword out. Just my thoughts.
Kate13
Aug 18 2007, 08:05 AM
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I believe this was because Neville was a "true Gryffindor". Remember in the 2nd book when harry had the sorting hat on and asked for help (in the chamber) and it gave him the sword? I think it did the same thing for Neville. I think this shows that the goblin lied, and the sword truly was made for and did belong to Gryffindor. I think that since the sorting hat and the sword both belonged to Gryffindor, he was able to put a sort of jink or whatever on it to link the two together, so even tho Griphook had the sword, when Neville asked for help while wearing the hat, he was able to pull the sword out. Just my thoughts.
Yes, I agree with that. Neville showed courage and bravery in the times when it was needed most. This established him as a true Gryffindor, so he was able to pull the sword from the sorting hat.
JessiMae82
Aug 18 2007, 11:09 PM
After Harry pulled the sword out of the Sorting Hat in Chamber of Secrets, Dumbledore stated that, "Only a true Gryffindor could have pulled that out of the hat." Neville, of course, was a "true Gryffindor" and happened to be -- as was Harry in CoS -- in great need. Therefore, the sword was provided to him via the Sorting Hat.
Griphook, like all goblins, was under the impression that goblin-made artifacts were goblin property. Unfortunately for him, he was mistaken.
harrrrynerrrrd
Aug 19 2007, 05:44 AM
yeah i think that the hat and the sword have a special magical bond so that whenever a true gryffindor puts on the hat they will get the sword no matter what. and since neville is certainly more of a gryffindor than griphook, neville got it.
LupinFan88
Aug 22 2007, 07:08 PM
Even though its the same as the other posts, I too beleive that Nevile exbitied the properties of a Grifyndor that day... night... morning. But... if Nevlle used the Sorting Hat as a "portal" for the sword, where was the sword when Harry pulled it out?? But regardless... I would love to see the look on Griphook's face when the sword disappeared.
adicted!
Aug 28 2007, 09:07 PM
i thint the sword just appears from where ever it is into the hat when it feels the prescence of a true griffindor. because if you remember in COS the sword wasnt there(in the hat) to begin with so it must have come from where ever it was before (dumbledores office)
lancelot243
Aug 28 2007, 09:14 PM
Even though this is repetivitive... I agree with everyone here that Neville pulled out the sword b/c he was a "true" Gryffindor who was in need. I really want to know what the reaction from Griphook was like. I almost feel bad for him...almost, but he deserves it
fredweslyrulz
Aug 31 2007, 08:05 PM
[b] Nevile got the sword like harry got it in CoS he needed help and hogwarts gave it because nevile really wanted to help harry so the hat gave him the sword

hope that helped.
Harragon
Nov 17 2007, 06:13 PM
Well, since Neville was a true Gryffindor, then that means all he had to was need it, and the sortign hat would give it to him, just like in the chamber of secrets. So even if the goblin did have it, it kinda just dissapeared to wherever a gryffindor would need it. So, i think the goblin was lieing, and that the sword really did belong to godric. But hey, thats just me. XD
GinervaPotter
Nov 18 2007, 12:39 AM
This is probably getting annoying (because it's been said so many times), but I think that Neville got the sword because he was a true Gryffindor; loyal and brave.
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Harry Ballsonia
Nov 25 2007, 02:58 AM
As Dumbledore had said in the second novel "Only a true Gryffindor could have pulled that out of the hat" meaning that Neville must be a TRUE GRYFFINDOR and so was able to retrieve Gryffindor's Sword. Being that as it is the Goblin never really "had" the sword; only borrowing, i guess you could say.
MISIA
Nov 25 2007, 04:18 AM
i think it's kind of like the Chamber of Secrets ron and hermione thing. just a quick fix that didn't need much explanation. also, since neville is developing as a charachter, becoming more brave and such, that just kind of sums it all up.
PotterPlotter
Nov 25 2007, 11:21 AM
Dumbledore had said only a real and true gryfinndor could use it and neville was one. It showed that the goblin was wrong about them having owned it. It was also to show that Neville had become from fat, weak kid in book one to a strong and brave person in book 7.
snapestinks**winkwink**
Aug 30 2008, 12:48 PM
The reason Neville got the sword even though the goblin had it was that remember in the second book, Harry needed help, and the sword came out of the Sorting Hat? Well, when Voldy put the Hat on Neville, Neville needed help, and since he is a true Gryffindor, the sword would come to him from wherever it was. Hope that makes sense.
FPSmylesxhxoxe
Sep 3 2008, 05:45 PM
Yeah the hat would just leave wherever it was and come out of the hat, i bet that if a ravenclaw or a hufflepuff did that something would happen exactly like that, or maybe not seeing as some of the only artifacts from those two house founders were horcruxes
Ginevra Molly Weasley
Sep 7 2008, 02:26 AM
I think that the sword appeared in the hat for a few reasons. One was because, as many of you have said, Neville is a "true Gryffindor." The second thing is that even though the Goblins were convinced that the sword of Gryffindor was still theirs, they were wrong. The sword belongs to Hogwarts, and Godric Gryffindor. So, since the sword is enchanted, it will always come back to Hogwarts, won't it? And since it usually comes out of the Sorting Hat, that's where it will show up.
I think that made sense.
AryaForce
Oct 11 2008, 05:25 PM
I also had the same confusion with Neville and the goblin. My cousin actually told me that from the second that a Gryffindor can pull the sword out of the hat. Also that the sword can be anywhere in the world and still a Gryffindor can pull out from the had where ever it is.
Small theory: Suppose Godric had the sword buried with him, since I think that was the honerable thing to do around the middle ages. So when Harry needed the sword, it appeared and he pulled the sword from Godric's grave, if it hadn't been pulled before that.
So Harry, Ron, and Hermione could of actually had the sword from the beginning of DH if they had the hat and any one of them can just pull it out from the Headmaster's office. Unfortunatly the hat was needed at Hogwarts so the new first years can be sorted.
So in the events Neville, Ginny, and Luna could have just stolen the hat from Snape's office instead of the actual sword.
asgardianale
Nov 3 2008, 12:30 PM
yea just like everyone said neville was a true gryffindor and therfore got the sword to kill nagini
Harry Ballsonia
Dec 7 2008, 04:01 AM
The Sword "appeared" for him just as it did in the sorting hat for Harry in CoS. As it was said before, the Sword truly belongs to those Gryffindors who exhibit the defining traits of a true Gryffindor; such as Bravery and Loyalty. The Goblin never would have been able to keep possession of it, for it would have eventually come to the call of some Gryffindor if not Neville. In the end though, it was a good thing it did; or else all would have been lost.
Lord Skinner
Aug 1 2009, 03:57 AM
The sword appears every once in awhile throughout history to a true gryffindor. So when a true gryffindor needs the sword the sorting hat pulls it from wherever it is. the hat cant always have the sword inside it. That makes sense of how Neville pulled it out to kill Nagini.
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