Just after Harry sees the vision of the trial, DD is pacing around his office ranting and he looks at his reflection in a glass case. Inside the case there are several items, one of which is something that looks like a three dimensional Deathly Hallows symbol. It is a pyramid with a sphere inside with a rod running through the sphere....

Coincidence? I just saw this when watching the movie, so this may have been discussed before, but I was just seeing if anyone noticed it...

Ohhh
I've never saw it but if it is as you say, it could be....well, perhaps the producers were entitled to know a little bit more than us and they left hints...
What I mean is that all the films must be adapted, so eventually they can't put all the hints that are shown in the book, however, I guess the films must bare some resemblance with the books in the end and that was maybe the way they found of leaving hints for the ones who didn't read the books but watch the films, right?

I'll pay attention to that when I'd get the chance of watching the film once more....

I'll have to watch more closely the next time I take a look at GoF.

I wouldn't think that the film makers are privvy to more information than anyone else, afterall don't you remember that they wanted to cut Kreacher out of OotP but JKR persuaded them otherwise without saying exactly why.

I had to have a look, so I popped in the DVD and away I went! There is a pyramid with a rod holding up a sphere. The rod doesn't go up to the top though so I'd say it's mere coincidence. They wanted things that only Dumbledore would have in his office so they added that weird thing. And I agree that the producers and set dressers wouldn't have more info then they need to make the scene work so I seriously doubt they knew about the symbol.

Well, I didn't intend to say that they knew about the symbol,(about what it meant) but maybe, -just like you said et- that JKR presuaded them to not to cut Kreacher out, JKR made some kind of sketch -like she did with Peeves and Nearly Headless Nick- of the things that would belong in Dumbledore's office and that would have been one of them...So they put it without knowing why and/or its meaning...

I must scamper to my DVD collection. The HP DVD is going in today. After I watch it, I will come back and comment with more depth. If it is something JK gave them, they would know it was important and would therefore need to have the details correct. So, I suspect a coincidence.

i think its a coincidence. JK wouldn't have told them about one of the biggest parts in DH just for a movie prop... and it's not exactly like the Hallows symbol... good eye, though

Hear this!
Oh my God, I was watching Harry Potter and the Goblet of Fire earlier and I noticed in one of Dumbledore’s scenes that there was something quite extraordinary hiding behind his glass cabinets.

In the part of the film where Harry looks in the pensieve and begins talking to Dumbeldore about his dreams of Barty Crouch jr, Michael Gambon (aka, Proffessor Dumbledore) looks into one of his glass cabinets and just to the left on one of the shelves you will see one of his trinkets. But look more closely, do you see it? It is an item that is shaped just like the symbol of the Deathly Hallows; you have a 3D shaped structure of a triangle with a small ball shaped like a sphere just in the middle of it, and running vertically through the middle of this ball is a long stick shaped like a wand; the invisibility cloak, the stone, and the elder wand.

I couldn’t believe I was seeing this, it was too good to be true. Take a look for yourselves, you’ll be very surprised.

Do you think that JK Rowling put them up to this? If she did then i'm really surprised. If she didn't then GOOD GUESS on the moviemakers' part!
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I tried posing this on my own page but i found out someone had already beat me to it. I thought i might have been the only one to notice the deathly hallows symbol in the 4th film, but i was wrong obviously. I'm soo miffed that i couldn't keep my page!

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i only just realised the deathly hallows when i was watching the film today. it was sooo exciting i just had to post up on it.

I think JK Rowling did maybe give them notes on this, otherwise how else would the artists have made such a random figurine. I heard from many interviews that JK Rowling had let some directors and members of the harry potter industry in on alot of important information. I wonder if some of the producers/dirctors had already known about the deathly hallows and just decided to ask some of the production artist team to put that in there. I bet David Heyman may have been one of those people because he's been with harry potter since the first film began and he's the producer or something like that; he seems to know alot about the whole picture.

So I finally got around to scanning through GoF just to have a look at this object, and yes it does look like the DH symbol. I did however, notice that there were quite a few triangular objects in DD's cabinets.

Also something else occured to me. Perhaps because JKR mentions the peculiar items in Dumbledores office in a couple of her books, they asked her to sketch a few of them out how she envisaged them. So some set designer bod came along and made them as per JKR's sketch without anyone other JKR herself knowing what was behind the drawing.

Just a thought.

Edit: It has taken some hunting but eventually I tracked down an image of the instrument in discussion here it is.
Actually the site I found the image on were discussing the meaning of the symbol pre book 7 release and it's interesting to read what they came up with and how close or not, they actually were!

Wow this is so interesting!
First off, congrats to those who saw this! What an eye... I am so concentrated on the movie that I miss the details and I am not that observant myself. Thus, amazing!

To the point now, I don't believe either that the producers really knew. If they did, we would have found out a lot earlier about Deathly Hallows. I do agree though with those who said that JKR might have put this object in sight herself. It is only reasonable she would add some of the weird stuff, and since she had the DH in mind, she could add an object like that, maybe trying to see if anyone notices. And maybe it was her kind of way of giving us a hint!

I don't believe it was random or just happened. No, it was intentional. I only wonder if she has left other hints like that in the other movies as well...


(Thanks for the link Elaine, it was really helpful!)

Wow!!!!!!!!!! I honestly cant say i have seen the DH symbol there Ill try and look closer next time i watch it!!!

You have really good eyes!!!

I actually know what you're talking about, but i think it's a coincidence. Really, i don't even think J.K. even came up with the Deathly Hallows until the 6th or 7th one, because they weren't even mentioned until the chapter Xenophilius Lovegood in the last book. But maybe she thought it before then, but i don't think she had the Deathly Hallows mark made out until one of the last books, because if she had made it by the fourth movie, she probably would have changed it or had another or better idea. That's just my thoughts though.

I like to think that JKR had an inkling that she was going to be doing something with that symbol and that she gave her input to the producers and had them use the symbol when designing the set for Goblet of Fire. I'm going to have to pop the DVD in tonight and watch that scene (well ok, I'll probably watch the whole thing - you can't just watch one scene!)