Lulu
Dec 26 2004, 04:24 PM
I read some critics about HP and they said that OoTP was to big, to long. i don't think it was to long at all, rather inverted, I liked that it was long.
waht do you think? and do you think the 7th book is going to be longer?
xXhApOcHiCxX
Dec 26 2004, 04:30 PM
i thought the book was too long but i loved that it was so long we got to leartn many new tihngs. i hope the seventh book will be evn longer than the sixth and fifth combined.
Lulu
Dec 26 2004, 04:38 PM
yes, me too, as I said. but if you want it longer, then why did you think OoTP was too long?
brkn promises x
Dec 26 2004, 07:40 PM
Hmm...it is probably one of the longest books I've ever read, but I don't think it was that bad.
Lulu
Dec 27 2004, 07:38 AM
when you say "not that bad" do you mean the lenght of the book or does it mean you think the book wasn't that bad?
Sebastian
Dec 28 2004, 05:20 AM
OotP is one of the longest books I´ve read (except a big Swedish history book about the 30 years war). But when reading JKs books you dont become aware of the lenght of the book, you just read it and when you are done you look at the book and says "man, it was a bit long". But when reading it the story just goes on by itself, if you know what I mean.
I think the seventh book will be a long story full with war and intrigues. Now they say that the sixth book will not be so long at all like the Ootp so then I have to fool myself into thinking that I´m waiting for a good long book.
Lulu
Dec 28 2004, 11:17 AM
I hope it's not going to br shorter that GoF. Does anyone know?
MistressofMagic
Dec 28 2004, 11:19 AM
I wouldn't be able to tell... it took me 2 1/2 days to finish it... with sleep and food and a playdate...
hermione_rocks
Dec 28 2004, 12:08 PM
i don't think ootp was
too long, yes it was long, but i think the length was appropriate for the story, the critics probably thought it was too long because most books are shorter and they probably think that too long isn't too good...
i was really dissapointed when i heard that HBP was shorter than OotP because i liked it when the books were going longer and longer everytime, but she said it was a tad shorter which probalby means less than 100 pages so i don't think it's going to be shorter than GoF, or i hope it isn't
the seventh book defenitely will
have to be longer than ootp, hopefully more than 1,000 pages long... it's the last book, and i want JKR to take a long time because i don't want the series to end..
Lulu
Dec 28 2004, 02:54 PM
I've heard that HBP is going to be shorter than OoTP, but not shorter than GoF?
Yes I too hope the 7th book is going to be longer than OoTP, and I also hope it'll be longer than 1000 pages.
but when the series ends, we still have the movies to look forward to. all though, It makes me sad to think of that the series soon is going to end.( we're in the 6th of 7 books by july, but it will at least go one more year before the seventh is out, don't you think?)
hermoinegranger80146
Dec 28 2004, 05:10 PM
ii think the 5th book was long but i like it long . i cant wait till the hbp comes out!
Sebastian
Dec 28 2004, 06:31 PM
Yeah, I must admit the longer the better! The HP books are very good and you read them [to] fast. And suddenly after some hours you sit there - and no more HP this year. But then comes re-reading and etceteras like that which makes it good. I sure hope that the new book will be very long!
Lulu
Dec 29 2004, 04:03 AM
the new book sure will be long, but it's going to be shorter than OoTP.
I've heard someone say it's going to be shoter than GoF, but I don'y think that. I beleave that it's going to be somehting between GoF and OoTP.
Sebastian
Dec 29 2004, 05:58 AM
I´ve read from various HP places on the web like TSRFC (The Swedish Rowling Fanclub) that the book is going to be very short. Probably shorter than GoF, but this doesn´t necesserily makes the book worse or anything like that. JK Rowling will have a way to make it up to us fans.
zyra123
Dec 29 2004, 09:53 AM
Guys.... I think we're getting a tad bit off topic here, aren't we?

The thread you should be replying to is here...
It Had Better Be....Yes, I know it's an old thread... but seeing as how we can't do anything about HBP being thick or not, I think it'll do....

What you should be discussing here though, is whether OotP too long a book to read? Personally I like it long. It gets more in depth and personal with other character. We get to know Harry better too. And amuse over little things like his liking for Cho, getting more of Fred and George moments and such. I kind of hate it when SS/PS pages jumped from one scene to the other so quickly. Before we know it, it's already Spring... and then soon it'll be summer, which means the end of the story...
realbullet
Dec 29 2004, 03:40 PM
I thought OotP read incredibly fast for such a long book. JKR builds tension and has small triumphs (ex. Ron at Quidditch, the story in the Quibbler, D.A. classes, Arthur Weasley -- this list can go on forever) that keep the book moving along very quickly.
The last 150 pages or so do not read as fast as the rest of the book. The DoM scenes drag on a little long. Also, since Dumbledore wouldn't talk to Harry throughout the book, his talk with Harry at the end takes longer than normal.
All in all this was my second favorite of the five books (after PoA); it definitely was not 'too long'.
Mrs Brisbee
Jan 3 2005, 02:28 PM
OotP is my favorite of the series so far, but I did feel when reading it that tighter editing could have shaved off 20-50 pages just by eliminating repetitions and unnecessary exposition. I wouldn't want to lose any of the plot or detail though.
I've reread the book three times, and noticed that the parts that bored me the first time round--like the flight from Privet Drive to Grimmauld Place--were actually fairly short (they just
seemed long).
Compared to GoF, the denoument and explanation at the end of the book is impressively quick. It's amazing how much plot gets wrapped up in the last two chapters. I wouldn't want the last two chapters changed for anything, or the first two unless it were to take out the name "Mark Evans"
(my appologies for weird spelling mistakes. I know they are there, but my brain seems quite incapable of doing anything about them right now. Maybe it's holiday sugar withdrawal)
Lulu
Jan 3 2005, 03:30 PM
I've read the fifth book seven times, and the chapter where we get to know Grawmp was very exiting the first and second time I read it. but the last five times, it bored me a bit, I don't know why, but..
gain I say, I don't think OoTP was too long. I know HBP is going to be shorter, but I'd be rather glad if it would be longer, every book has been longer than the previews book.
aleja23
Jan 3 2005, 05:40 PM
I think is was long, and the action only happen in about 3 or 4 chapters, at the end, when they are fighting against the death eaters and all that, I think the other things were less important and all the great things (except for Sirius death) happen really fast!!!
Esrb99
Jan 3 2005, 08:05 PM
Well, after reading Ootp, GoF seemed like a short book from grade school (which I DID read it in fourth grade!) and OoTP now sems like a normal length book like you would read in class, even though it is over twice their size! (The Hobbit, laura whatever books, etc.) even though shorter than Ootp (which I read in 9 hrs, 42 min, and 33 .032 seconds, yes I had a stopwatch!) it is supposed to tell us lots of history of the charactes, and its supposed to be a book where the trio really matures, so I et it won't seem long. Oh, and Ootp did not seem long, If anything, I wish it was longer!
~Esrb99~
Padma Patil
Jan 5 2005, 06:31 AM
How in the world did you read it that fast? It took me about two and a half days to read mine. Of course the first time I read it I was at my aunts house and babysitting for most of the time. So yeah, the second time it only took me a total of maybe 14 hours. I like to read slower to savor every detail.
Oh, and back on subject, I thought it was just the right length. I do agree though with whoever said that they wish HBP would be longer than OotP.
mirtia
Jan 6 2005, 08:58 AM
Well, I think Ootp was definitely too long. Don't get me wrong! I wish JK Rowling could write books 2 times bigger, but Ootp had many unnecessary plots. One of them, Hagrids' brother, was completely needless, and well, kind of boring. Also, the finale, the battle in Department of Misteries, was kind of far-fetched. I mean how 5 teenagers can keep themselfes alive, if the are outnumbered, don't have enough magical knowledge, and fight against world's most deadly wizards? I think that Rowlling showed deatheaters as slow-coach individuals, not adherents of voldemort. Other than that, Ootp was my favourite book, and I was ecstatic that the books finally took on more mature approach.
Lulu
Jan 6 2005, 09:12 AM
well, JK. Rowling said that Hagrid's brother will become more importan in the future books. so it was rather important that chapter with Grawmp.
Harry and his mates were outnumbered yes, but because of that the deateaters thought they had completly controll, the exploding sceen, did work just as harry thought it would. they were lucky, yes, but they couls hurt Harry as long as he hold the prophecy, and that was a trumpf to Harry and his mates.
mirtia
Jan 6 2005, 12:31 PM
hmm, someone has been reading interviews

God, how could I forget that Harry was holding the prophecy? and that's why the death eaters didn't take immediate action..to well kill them..thanks Lulu!
I'm new here, heh and I forget to introduce myself ..so Hi all!!! And
I need a bit of advice. Do you guys think that my avatar is appropriate? I really like it..but I just don't know if it's ok for younger people.
Lulu
Jan 6 2005, 12:59 PM
no problem mirtia.
err.. I don't know, I think it's okey to use the avatar, but it's not Harry potter related though, it musn't be, but almost everyone has.
You might step into the introduction thread and introduce you're self in the
"loung" forum, if haven't already. you can find the HP-avatars here at the forum, just click on "my controls on top of the site and choose avatar settings.
Welcome to the forums by the way!
Princess_Hermione
Jan 14 2005, 05:23 PM
I'm really trying hard to read OotP from Chapters 1-38. I really wanna read the parts where the trio receives OWLS and Harry moves away from the Dursleys.
Lulu
Jan 14 2005, 06:42 PM
you haven't read OoTP yet?
how long have you read already?
do you think it's too long?,ot does ir seem to long for you?
mirtia
Jan 15 2005, 12:29 AM
Princess_Hermione what's your point anyways? God, what you said is really weird. You haven't read the 5th book, so why do you post on "Was Ootp Too Long"????
State more clearly what you mean, and then I'll be able to criticize you more, since you are a fan, and
didn't read Ootp!!!!!!Lulu, as you see I changed my avatar....even though I prefered the first one, but the rules
Louise
Jan 15 2005, 10:03 AM
Hey now....careful please.....
If you have a problem with the rules then I'd really appreciate you PM'ing me instead of bipping about them in the threads.
mirtia
Jan 15 2005, 06:33 PM
Dana_Scully
I don't have a problem with rules, and I really don't know where you get that from. All I wanted to say was, that I had to change my avatar because of the rules, I didn't say that I had prolem with it.
Don't get me wrong, the comment to Princess_Hermione wasn't intented to be offensive. It was meant to be humorous (well, I should've put a smile next to "criticize) Some people are way too serious!!! (I understand that you have to keep forum in order, but sometimes it's good not to take everything seriously

) As you see Princess_Hermione didn't even bother to answer. If I offended anyone, then I'm sorry. But some people need to chill out
Well, to keep me vaguely on topic

I still think that Oopt was too long, but since JKR is one of my favourite authors, I can forgive her for that
Louise
Jan 15 2005, 07:01 PM
I've replied to you by PM. I don't want any further off topic posts being made or I'm just going to delete them.
The topic is the length of OotP...let's get back to it please.
Monerz
Jan 18 2005, 09:50 AM
Long? Not at all. I wish it was longer. So many questions! Not enough answers!
Lulu
Jan 18 2005, 01:28 PM
hehe, lol Monerz! I also want the book to be longer.
LunaLupinLover
Jan 19 2005, 03:23 AM
I thought it was a proper enough length though in the end so much was left unknown...less than six months til we find out some more answers though.
Remus Lupin
Jan 19 2005, 08:03 PM

It was long,but it was AUSOME! I've never finished a book that fat in EIGHT days before! JKR has succeded once again in hypnotising us once again with her INCREDIBLE writting! Keep writting girl.
writingfreak
Jan 27 2005, 04:04 AM
I didn't mind the length because there were so many events in Ootp. I actually like long books. As long as the author isn't just rambling on and on about useless drivel, I don't really care how long a book is.
Souljacker
Jan 31 2005, 11:44 PM
I agree with Writing freak the actual length of the book is not important when determining if a book is too long but the fact that it doesn't drag at parts and the author doesn't ramble unnecessarily.
When reading the order of the Phoenix not at one point in the book did i want a particular part of the book to 'be done with quicker' and i always couldn't wait to read the next page as i progressed through the book. In fact i tried to ration the amount of chapters i read in a day so that i could prolong the reading time
I don't think JK Rowling made the order of the phoenix long for longs sake by any means, or felt that it had to be longer than the Goblet of fire. The Order of the Phoenix had a lot of sub stories and things to explain to the readers which were all part of the development of, firstly the book itself and then the whole saga of Harry Potter. I think the story flows extremely well because JK allows extensive background information which allows us as the readers to build up a picture of what Harry’s world looks like (everything is linked in some way or another in a seamless way) And by JK not setting her self a word limit for the Order of the Phoenix we as fans can build on that world more.
I apologise for rambling on myself.
tweetyburrow
Feb 24 2005, 04:22 PM
I thought the length was just fine,actually i will prefer it to be longer. The more pages included the more stories and plots we have. And i too wish Harry's 7th book will be the longest out of all cause' i'm kinda dissapointed that HBP is going to be less the Ootp.
Darren
Feb 24 2005, 04:34 PM
If I read through every book that thick, that fast. I'd wish for them all to be that length. The book was perfect, untiresum, and extremely enjoyable.
On the third read through I found the giant chapter a little annoying, but other than that.

.
I hope and pray that book 7 is twice the length.
cerussite
Feb 24 2005, 10:34 PM
When ever my sister reads books, she does it in a ridiculously fast time (mind you she was reading things like lord of the rings at the age of eight or something, I find a hard read now, and I’m twenty four

). It was something I thought I could never match.
But when I got OotP I tried reading it in my lunch break, but a colleague came in and started chatting, it took all my will power not to tell this woman to leave me alone.

At this point I had read less than the first chapter.
When I got in from work at 6, I cooked dinner ate it than sat down to read. To my amazement I finished it that same night. At no point did I get the urge to put it down.
I have since read it many times, and still I find it hard to put down, it always seems as if it ended to soon…
::Counts down days to the release of HBP::
Darth_Oz
Mar 8 2005, 12:55 PM
Quantity doesn't necessarily mean quality but I thought all the story on OTP was pretty justified, and more importantly, interesting to read. I managed to read in in just over a day (because I was desperate to see who died!) but it had a 're-read' value not seen in the series with the exception of PoA.
Something like LOTR was far too long in my opinion (too many charcters that were introduced then never developed) and a bit twee. I like the inherant darkness of HP!
Jake
Mar 8 2005, 02:29 PM
I agree, all of OoTP was important and I wouldn't have changed it if I could, I remember I got sick at camp the summer it came out and I was stuck in the healt center all day during color war so i brought it with me and finished it. It was amazing, I haven't gotten aroudn to re-reading it, im going to redo the whole series since I've only re-read GoF twice and the first three eight times, I think they all have re-read values, I always find something I missed the previous times through.
Sofie
Apr 26 2005, 06:00 PM
Too long? Oh, noooo!!!!!

I wish it was longer....
I doubt, that the time will come when a HP book will be too long for me.
zhenesais
Apr 29 2005, 12:18 AM
Was OoTP too long?
Nuh-uh, no way! Anything more JK's willing to write about the magical world suits me fine. I'll read it hungrily.
Nawrehsuan
Apr 29 2005, 08:33 AM
I do not feel that OoTP was too long. It was just the right length. It didn't bore me and it was excellent. I also managedto read it in 2 days so it was not that long.
Bella
May 1 2005, 02:40 PM
I think it could be even longer...

But, on the other hand, I think it's too long to make a film in accordance with it. I'm really afraid that many important things will be omitted in the 5th film.
zhenesais
May 2 2005, 01:25 PM
Order of the Phoenix had everything necessary for the overall plot of Harry Potter. If anything, i think it's safe to assume that the fans want more not less!
jmb1403
May 4 2005, 07:29 PM
I wanted the book to last for ever, so no it wasn't too long. The next book is meant to be 608 pages which is 20 or so pages less than Ootp.
Jules62442
May 5 2005, 06:58 AM

I LOVE long books their great. I'm so disapointed that HBP is shorter than OoTP but that won't stop me reading it.
OoTP needed to be long in order to fit all the detail into it i loved it!!
the biggest book i've ever read was 999 pages long and it was a great book, and most of the time short stories leave you wanting more!! So i do think that quantity does equal quality (most of the time anyway.)
i will also be sorely disapointed if book 7 isn'y a massivly huge book!!
anyway better stop babbling now.
lawks_fuster
May 15 2005, 01:47 PM
ummmmmm.......
but as i've observe, JKR's series of harry potter books, they become
thicker and thicker as time goes by.
have you noticed that????
well, i think you've already noticed that!
but come and think of it........
there's really nothing wrong with the book!
it's not that long!
well, maybe as harry goes on with his life, there are lots of revelations that would make him a real man!
but there's really nothing wrong with the book!
it's not that long!
ootp was brilliant!
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