Hi all

Oh my GOD I haven't been on here FOR EVER, I am SO SORRY for deserting you!!!

Anyway, I'll have a bash at the question:

How do you think Severus' life would have been different if he weren't the one who overheard the prophecy? Let's assume some other death eater heard it and told Voldemort and the outcome was the same (Lily and James' death, Harry being orphaned, etc.), but it wasn't Severus' fault. He might not have even known about Lily's death until after it happened. Would he still have fled to Dumbledore? Would he still have become a spy against Voldemort? Would he still have protected Harry?

I think that he wouldn't have realized just how wrong Voldemort's ideals were. Remember how he asked him to spare Lily and he didn't? I think that really shattered his faith in his master, even more than just Lily's death would. I think he might feel animosity to Harry because if Lily hadn't had, she wouldn't have died, and I definitely don't think he would have protected him. I'm not sure about his grief over Lily's death would have driven him to Dumbledore though. I think a lot of the pain came from the fact that her death was partially his fault, because he told Voldemort about Lily.

mugglelovrspew's idea for the fanfic is great. I think it would be funniest if it was when he was Professor.

He's my own pathetic stab at an idea:

What if James Potter bets Snape (in sixth year) that he can't get a date for Valentine's day? And he desperately tries to steal/enchant/beg for a date?

Rubbish, I know.

Ellie
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P.S. I'd just like to ask a question. What do you think was going through Snape's head when he called Lily 'Mudblood'?

Well, I finally decideed to pluck up and join in the discussion here. I'll admit Snape wasn't my favorite at the beginning, but he grew on me in the end. "The Prince's Tale" was really what changed my opinion of him. Anyways, I guess I should answer some questions!

How do you think Severus' life would have been different if he weren't the one who overheard the prophecy? Let's assume some other death eater heard it and told Voldemort and the outcome was the same (Lily and James' death, Harry being orphaned, etc.), but it wasn't Severus' fault. He might not have even known about Lily's death until after it happened. Would he still have fled to Dumbledore? Would he still have become a spy against Voldemort? Would he still have protected Harry?

I don't think he would have switched over. The main reason he did was because he cared for Lily, and he wanted to try and help her. If he hadn't heard the prophecy he wouldn't have known the situation. I think he would have been meaner to Harry if he hadn't changed sides. The prophecy just influenced his life so much: if he hadn't heard it, he wouldn't have become a spy, got so close to Dumbledore, or protected Harry. Him hearing the prophecy set off a chain reaction, and the story(and his life) would change so much if he hadn't heard it.

What do you think was going through Snape's head when he called Lily 'Mudblood'?

I think he was just upset with the Mauraders, and he let out his temper on Lily. I think that he wasn't thinking straight, and it just popped out. He obviously regretted it later, but I don't think he regretted it at that instant.

Should Snape have been Sorted into a different House?



I like what you said, Lottie. I think that is a pretty accurate observation. He could have been in either, but he wanted to be a Slytherin.

So we are trying to brainstorm a collaborative fanfic? I like the idea about the love potion. I will have to think on it for a bit longer.

~Kel

Edit: For fun, I did the quizzes that were a few pages back, just to see how I would do.

Which Snape are you?
You are Superior!Snape- though largely a fanon invention, this quiz hails you as The True Snape [tm]. Your conversation largely consists of witty putdowns and sardonic banter. You are eloquent, intelligent, smooth as satin and twice as sexy. The fangirls & boys drool after you. You are often alone because, let's face it, most of the world simply can't measure up. The fact that the Gryffindors hate your guts proves they're intellectually subnormal and don't realise that you hate everyone equally. You spend your time mocking the world and attending Sex Pistols concerts. Who said greasy hair can't be a fashion trend?
History remembers you because your tongue was so sharp that you sliced yourself in two.

Similarly Severus?
You got 32 points.
You and Severus Snape are quite similar. Your interests intersect at certain points, and your reactions/emotional responses are not too different.

Hot for Teacher
You got 105 points.
Your getting there. Snape says hi to you sometimes but wouldn't go out with you yet.

"The Prince's Tale" was really what changed my opinion of him. Anyways, I guess I should answer some questions!' - Kel

I think it had that effect for a lot of people. I always had a love/hate attitude towards Snape because he is a really fab character but at the same time he is mean to Harry and Sirius's enemy.

What do you think was going through Snape's head when he called Lily 'Mudblood'?

I think Severus lashed out and called Lily "mudblood" in anger and didn't think about it before hand. I think he was so embarrassed that she witnessed James and his gang harassing him and also embarrassed by the fact that she was defending him, making him feel inadequate, that he just wanted her to disappear-to not be there witnessing his humiliation. I don't think it was a calculated decision on his part at all, but the fact that he used the term "mudblood" does lead me to believe he was deeply involved in the Slytherin way of thinking, even though I don't think he extended that prejudice towards Lily. She was held separate from other muggleborns by Severus because he loved her so much.


Ellie, I loved this idea. It is absolutely not rubbish!


Lisa

Hey all-

I love the ideas coming in for the fast approaching fanfic...anywho, I'll give it to the end of this week for the last ideas to come pouring in. So if you have an idea (whether you think it's good or not) post it before it's too late!

Looking forward to see what comes up.

-Nick
HJP

Okay. I have an idea for a fanfic. Perhaps Snape (after he dies) gets a chance to go back to his past and perhaps change some of the choices he made. He could watch his life go by, much like in the Prince's Tale, but he can interlude at any moment and act as his own concience. Mostly he could change the moment he called Lily a Mudblood.

I also like this idea. It sounds really funny!


~Kel

Well, I have an idea. Just a random one that popped into my head. How about the night before Valentime's, Sev gets visited by Lily in a dream, just like Harry got visited by Dumbledore at King's Cross in DH? What would they say, how would they act, and all that. Lily doesn't know that Sev is coming, and she's just been told to report to King's Cross, or wherever it is, so she's surprised when Sev shows up. That could be quite fluffy and Valentime-y.

What do you think was going through Snape's head when he called Lily 'Mudblood'?

Nothing. Sev was acting purely on instinct. Having the Marauders use his own spell against him was a low blow, and Sev was going to say anything, everything, to gain back some dignity. It ended up costing him his closest friend.

What do you think was going through Snape's head when he called Lily 'Mudblood'?
~I think it is okay to answer this question. We had a similar question back in September (it took me all morning to find it ) but the recent question is more about what his thought process was and how he was feeling when he shouted out 'Mudblood'. I posted the past question and my answer to it below because I believe my answer would be the same. If my answer is the same then what was going through his head was a thought out statement; a thought process that had been embedded in Severus' brain for many years. Severus had a difficult time seperating that Lily was a mudblood because in his eyes, she was the most beautiful thing his eyes, head and heart has ever encountered and he would deny her publicly in order to save both of their lives.

Sorry all, I haven't been on here in a couple days. We're in the process of moving (yay!) and I haven't had internet access. I better catch up and answer some questions.

What do you think was going through Snape's head when he called Lily 'Mudblood'?

I think he was just mad at the time. Of course he regretted it afterward and I think that if he had thought before he spoke, then he would of never said it. It's such a terrible name.
=[ I agree with most of the rest of you on the concept too.



I totally agree with this Lisa! His Slytherin-like qualities came out with him more over the years and I think if he was placed in a different house, things definitely would of been different.

I can't think of any more fanfics ideas because I'm so worried with finals coming up and everything, but your guys are great!

I just wanted to pop in and say that I loved this idea! I don't have anything new to add regarding fanfic ideas, but there are some great ones already on here. I can't wait to get started!




Lisa

How do you think Severus' life would have been different if he weren't the one who overheard the prophecy? Let's assume some other death eater heard it and told Voldemort and the outcome was the same (Lily and James' death, Harry being orphaned, etc.), but it wasn't Severus' fault. He might not have even known about Lily's death until after it happened. Would he still have fled to Dumbledore? Would he still have become a spy against Voldemort? Would he still have protected Harry?

~This is a great question and like most of you I agree that his life probably wouldn't have been any different. Lily was his love and her loss struck a deep chord within Severus' soul. It is this more than anything else that caused Severus to seek out Dumbledore. He may have known about the plan to go after the Potter's before hand but even if he didn't, I think he would have still been in Dumbledore's office that night simply crushed that Lily had been murdered. In my opinion he still would have spied agaisnt Voldemort and grudgingly protected Harry through it all.

I have a couple of other questions.

What are some of Severus' pet peeves? Why do you think those things irk him so much?

What are some similarities between Severus and the Dark Lord? Is there any other character in the series that has similarities close to Severus?

These should keep us going for awhile. I am getting excited about the Valentine fanfic. I wonder what Nick is going to suggest? You all have given some wonderful ideas. Thank you for making the SOSS an absolutely fantastic club!!

What are some of Severus' pet peeves? Why do you think those things irk him so much?

I think, for obvious reasons, he hates people using the word 'mudblood', and it would particularly get on his nerves because he couldn't really tell say, Lucius Malfoy or Voldemort or Bellatrix to stop using the word because he would blow his cover. He also strikes me as the sort of person who would hate pointless time wasting. Just to give you an example of what I mean, I went on holiday to the Caribbean over Christmas, and everyone was moving SO SLOWLY!! I mean, you'd say "Oh, let's go to [insert Caribbean sounding name] Bay," and you'd get in the car, and start driving, and you'd see a viewpoint place, and you'd think, "Oooh, let's stop here," so you'd stop and stare for 1500 years at a patch of palm trees, and you'd have sixteen bottles of Sprite/Ginger Ale/Whatever, and you'd get in the car, and drive for another 12 seconds, see another viewpoint, think "Oooh, let's stop here," etc. etc. etc. to infinity, or the unlikely event of actually reaching the place you were trying to get to. And I know I'm going to sound rigid, easily irritated, unable to relax, sour, etc., but it really annoyed me, because I just wanted to get somewhere and do something, and it seemed like a waste of precious time. Do you see my point? No? Oh well. What I'm trying to say is that I think Snape will hate any kind of timewasting, because he realised that, as with Lily, life is too short. Actually, I think a lot of his pet peeves will annoy him because he will somehow associate them with Lily.

What are some similarities between Severus and the Dark Lord? Is there any other character in the series that has similarities close to Severus?

I think that Snape and Voldemort both had difficult, lonely childhoods, so, in that sense, his early childhood was similar to Harry's. However, when Harry came to Hogwarts, his life changed emotionally for the better, whereas Snape and Voldemort never really made friends with 'their own kind'. I can't really think of any other ways in which they're similar though... As for other characters, I think Snape is quite similar to Hermione, in an odd way, because people teased him about him being so clever, just as they tease Hermione. And... I've gone brain-dead, and can't think of any more.

Ellie
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Hihi, I'm back finally! School got pretty hetic, so I've been absent from VTM for awhile. But I'm back and ready to roll!


What are some of Severus' pet peeves? Why do you think those things irk him so much?
I believe first off ignorance is his biggest pet peeve. Severus is a very knowledgeable person, and he is very serious about Potions, so I think that people in his classes that either are not good at potions (Like Neville) or they just do not take the class seriously. Snape is very serious person, and he doesn't tolerate horseplay.
Another pet peeve I think he has is when people try to prod into his life. He's a conservative man, he isn't one to let people in on his life very often, or ever. So when someone like say, MgGongal, tries to be that caring person that he is, then I can see Severus get very uptight and rude. He doesn't like talking about his past, so having someone poke and prod you about it can be very annoying.l

What are some similarities between Severus and the Dark Lord? Is there any other character in the series that has similarities close to Severus?
I have to agree with Alastorlet here, that the only thing I can really say that are the same between Severus and Voldemort is that they both had those hard childhoods, they were both very reclusive, didn't have many friends. In a way, they both grew up very much the same.
One other thing that Severus and Voldemort have in common is that they are both very intelligent. You have to admit, Voldemort is an intelligent wizard, even if he rarely (if ever) used his intelligence for the good of others. Severus on the other hand, created new potions, helped the Order, was brave and other things - he used his skills for the greater good.
As for other characters, in a way I believe he and Dumbledore share some qualities. There were so many people who doubted Dumbledore because of The Daily Prophet, and many people believed that Dumbledore wasn't the great wizard he seemed to be. So many people disbelieved Sev when he said he was on the good side, he was very misread, and not many people knew the true him. Same as Dumbledore. Plus, they are both extraordinary wizards.


Sam

What are some of Severus' pet peeves? Why do you think those things irk him so much?

I don't want to be redundant here, so first I want to say that I agree with everything that Sam said. Ignorance was the first thing that popped into my mind when I thought of Severus' pet peeves. I also think he would be agitated by arrogance, rule-breaking, chicanery and anything other mannerisms that either James or Sirius had, as they would remind him of his humiliating school days when he was a boy. Also, insolence: he seems to get very disturbed whenever he thinks he's not getting the respect he deserves.


What are some similarities between Severus and the Dark Lord? Is there any other character in the series that has similarities close to Severus?

Again, I have to agree with Sam and Ellie, Severus and Voldemort had many similarities in their childhoods and school experiences, and they're both very intelligent wizards.

This may sound strange, but I see some similarities between Severus and Harry. They also shared similar themes in there childhood, such as neglect and loneliness. Both of them found a home at Hogwarts, for different reasons, but none the less, they both preferred being at school to being at home. Finally, they both shared the same misunderstood prejudice against each other; they couldn't see past it to the person that they each really were. (Did that make sense?? )

Lisa

Lisa I see your pint about Snape and Harry, it isn't one that first comes to mind, but when you think about it, you can actually see it quite clearly.

What are some of Severus' pet peeves? Why do you think those things irk him so much?
I agree with Sam. He also doesn't like things that remind him about his past, or the mistakes he made. I think that's why he hates Harry so much. Harry looks like James, and that would remind him of the humiliations he recieved in his school life. Also, Harry has Lily's eyes which would remind him that James got the woman heloved, but of the mistake he made when he told Voldemort about the prophecy. I think that by being mean to Harry, he was easing the pain of it.

Lottie
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What are some of Severus' pet peeves? Why do you think those things irk him so much?

1. Harry Potter
2. Harry Potter
3. Harry Potter

Erm, seriously, if it were me, I would really be annoyed that I couldn't tell anyone about the fact that I'm really a good Snapeypoo. Also, I think he was always tormented by the fact that his enemy James married and had a child with the love of his life.
On top of that probably the weekly pile of terribly written werewolf essays and the fact that no one guesses that the guy who has his dream job is a werewolf.

For starters.

What are some of Severus' pet peeves? Why do you think those things irk him so much?
I like what lisasnape said about insolence. Snape very much craved respect from others probably because he got so little of it growing up. I also think that goes hand in hand with a lack of self discipline. I think it bugs the adult Snape beyond belief that his students don't put the effort into learning Potions and DADA that he did at their age.
What else comes to mind is overindulgance. I think of Lockhart here and his extravagance lifestyle and indulging in the fame and spotlight (which he didn't earn of course).


What are some similarities between Severus and the Dark Lord? Is there any other character in the series that has similarities close to Severus?



This is indeed interesting and I thought of almost a three way comparison between Snape, Voldemort and Harry. All three were very much on there own in the sense of self preservation. They all found solice at Hogwarts. They all respected magic and craved to learn and prove themselves. In each case it was the choices they made while at Hogwarts that determined the course of thier lives and this is where the seperation truly is. The choice of two to follow down a path of darkness. One being engulfed by the power, the other respecting that power and then Harry choosing to repel the lure of darkness.

The other person that I think Severus has something in common with is Dumbledore. I think they were both extremely intelligent and independent before they even started Hogwarts. They both suffered tragedy as children (Ariana's death and Snape's abuse). They were both well aware of the magic that ran in their families and had high expectations for themselves. Finally, we know that Severus really fancied the Dark Arts. I think that there was something in this subject that just appealed to both of these men.

I have another question. I was *ahem* browsing around one of the other fansites and saw this question. I thought we could discuss it here.

In regards to Snape's character, would Severus Snape have intentionally caused harm to another student or living thing while he was in a position of authority at Hogwarts?
What comes to mind specifically is the incident with Trevor, Neville's toad. I wonder if Severus would have allowed Trevor to be killed during that Potions lesson when Neville supposedly made the incorrect potion or would he have saved Trevor's life? Are their other instances where this may or may not be true?

In regards to Snape's character, would Severus Snape have intentionally caused harm to another student or living thing while he was in a position of authority at Hogwarts?
What comes to mind specifically is the incident with Trevor, Neville's toad. I wonder if Severus would have allowed Trevor to be killed during that Potions lesson when Neville supposedly made the incorrect potion or would he have saved Trevor's life? Are their other instances where this may or may not be true?

I have always wonder what Severus' intentions were with Neville's toad! I really did; I'm such an animal lover and I had hoped that if Neville's potion was devastating, Severus would have had the counter potion at hand to revive Trevor. But I don't know if that would have been the case because I'm not sure how much Severus respects the life of an animal. He didn't care for Fluffy too much, but who would, really??

Regarding the students, I don't think he would have let any harm come to them. He protected them from Amycus and Alecto Carrow as best he could without blowing his cover: he didn't let on about Neville and the other students using the room of requirement as a refuge. Also, and this has been mentioned before in other discussions (but I thought I'd bring it up again anyway), he protected Harry from Quirrell, even though he disliked Harry immensely. I think he was true to the oath he made to Dumbledore to protect the students

Lisa

In regards to Snape's character, would Severus Snape have intentionally caused harm to another student or living thing while he was in a position of authority at Hogwarts?

I think not. We see a more sensitive side of him throughout clips of the series, but I don't think he'd be able to forgive himself. It just doesn't seem like he would even if he was playing both sides. I agree with Amanda and Lisa about Trevor. I think he would of saved Trevor just because he might of got in trouble with Dumbeldore. I can see Dumbeldore being the main cause of Snape's being as good as possible, in a way. DD seemed to see through most people, and Snape probably feared what would happen.

What are some of Severus' pet peeves? Why do you think those things irk him so much?

Besides Harry Potter, I think the thing that would irk Severus most would be students not paying attention in class. Especially when Ron and Harry are the ones caught. Also, this somewhat relates to it-- when a student asks an obvious question. If he just got done explaining something, who wouldn't be irritated by a kid asking a question to an answer he had just finished lecturing on?

In regards to Snape's character, would Severus Snape have intentionally caused harm to another student or living thing while he was in a position of authority at Hogwarts?

I think he would, though nothing serious or permanent. Like when he said had saw no difference when Hermione's teeth grew too large. As long as he could get away with it, I believe he would.

Of course, I definitely do not believe he would intentionally let a student come to harm by mean of an unforgivable curse or something of the like. Nothing like Umbridge. Cruel, yes, but mostly verbal and hardly ever physical things.

Here's a new question:

Is it possible that Severus was the greatest Occlumens of those alive at the time e.g. Dumbledore and Voldemort etc.?

I think it's possible because he had to lie like the devil around Voldemort and he managed it. He also had to conceal his thoughts around the likes of Bellatrix who was an occlumens. Yes, she didn't trust him but she never managed to delve into his thoughts to be able to prove her suspicions.
Aside from it taking incredible guts to stand there and lie to Voldemort's very manky old face, it would have taken all the more will to lie under such circumstances.

What does anyone think?

Is it possible that Severus was the greatest Occlumens of those alive at the time e.g. Dumbledore and Voldemort etc.?

Hmm, I never thought about this. But good point. I guess he could of been because of what he was doing. It's just really confusing. I think he was the greatest one of that time, yes, or at least that we knew of. You're right on most of those points because keeping out Bellatrix and Voldemort would be hard work, let alone anyone else.

Is it possible that Severus was the greatest Occlumens of those alive at the time e.g. Dumbledore and Voldemort etc.?

Yes, I think so, for all the reasons stated by harryjpotter. Imagine the level of expertise it must have taken to conceal thoughts from Voldemort and maybe even Dumbledore as well. I think Occlumency would be a difficult skill to master and Severus seems to have performed it to perfection. Even at the end, when Voldemort had him killed, it wasn't because he had learned anything from Severus (even under all that pressure, Sev never cracked), it was just to get that damned Elder Wand.

Lisa

Is it possible that Severus was the greatest Occlumens of those alive at the time e.g. Dumbledore and Voldemort etc.?

I would certainly say that he is top two in the category of Occlumens. However, I'm going to have to jump off the bandwagon and side with Voldemort in this question. Even though Severus was an extraordinarily good Occlumens, and he did keep his mind shut to the Dark Lord, the Death Eaters and anyone else who I am not thinking of. I still feel that the Dark Lord gave him leniency. The Dark Lord trusted Severus as much as he could trust any single person (granted, it's not a ton). So, even though he did delve into the minds of his Death Eaters, I think that Severus caught a break most of the time and didn't have to face the full power of Lord Voldemort. Also, direct eye contact makes it that much more powerful when penetrating someone's mind, and we can't say wether Voldemort had those opportunities or not with Severus. There's even the possibility that he was never really able to use his full power with direct contact on Severus, we just don't really know. In essence, even though Severus was a phenomenal Occlumens, I still feel that the most accomplished wizard of the time was the best.



Okay...

Valentine's Day Fanfic

You all have come up with some great ideas for the fanfic! I didn't see one that I didn't like and all of them have the potential to be a great fanfic. However, I do have to draw it down to one So without further ado, I give you the topic of our first ever SOSS Valentine's Day Fanfic.

James Potter bets Snape (in sixth year) that he can't get a date for Valentine's Day and Snape desperately tries to steal/enchant/beg for a date?



I will be putting up the new threads relatively soon, so make sure you keep your eyes peeled.


-Nick
HJP

hej,
there's this wonderfull fanfic about snape, but you all have probably red it already..bit weird story though..it's called that which does not hurt us, only makes us stronger, and a other one also about snape and hermione , I forgot the title but it's about snape and hermione in a snowbowl or something..I think you should take a look at it.

ow and I do think Snape is the best!

Haha, well may I be the first to say welcome rebeccie!

Harry James Potter, I think that fanfic idea is excellent! It's going to be so fun writing this. I have some pretty good ideas, and I can't wait to read all of your fanfics to.



That's true also. We don't know that and he probably didn't once he regained full power. he wanted to get so much done and to kill Harry, but that was probably an advantage with Snape. And I do have to say one thing, that even the most accomplished wizard of all time might not have been a good Occlumens, though we probably assume that. That's just my opinion.

Oooh Nick, I was hoping that that was going to be the fanfic you chose! I'm so excited for it!

Rebeccie~ Welcome!!! I know the fics you are talking about! The first one is; That Which Does Not Hurt Us, Only Makes Us Stronger by drhpluvr4l. The other one is Second Chances by our wonderful SOSS president Nevillesgirl. And I agree with you, both of them are completely excellent!

~Dayna

Hi rebeccie and welcome to the SOSS! I love those fanfics too and I wanted to let you know that there's actually a thread where people can recommend fanfics or read others recommendations. It's in the feedback section and it's called WIP fanfic recommendations. I've recommended a few myself, especially everything written by zwillo (Dayna, to us!) and the links are all there as well as in her signature. Now, I know I'm , so regarding the Valentine's fanfic collaborative-I'm so excited. I love this idea too and I can't wait to see what everyone writes and where it all ends up!

When do we start??
Lisa

Ahh, however we do know that LV was an extremely accomplished Legilimens as our beloved Severus told us in OotP.



Also rebeccie, thanks for those recommendations and welcome!


Danya, mugglelovrspew and lisasnape I'm very excited too.

To answer the question about when it starts...hopefully within a couple days I will have everything organized and ready to go...and if I don't have much work from my classes tomorrow, then maybe even tomorrow.


-Nick
HJP

P.S.- Dayna, I was reading through all the ideas I had listed and I just pictured so many funny scenarios that were possible. So I really had no choice, it sucked me in immediately

Regarding the Valentines Day fanfic, what if we had a collaberated scenario?
For example everyone who wants to write it adds their name to a list and we post a list of who posts when so things don't get confused.

It would be pretty fun I think. So there would be no fixed storyline and everyone would get something fun out of it.

harryjpotter... Actually all of our fanfics here at SOSS are collaborative. I will be posting the rules when I create the threads, and there's no list...all you need to be on is the SOSS memberlist (which if you've posted in this thread you're good )



-Nick
HJP

Ahh okies, thanklies for that information Harry James Potter! I just wonder how no one getsmixed up and posts at the same time as someone else for example?

What are some of Severus' pet peeves? Why do you think those things irk him so much?
I think that teaching students complex potions annoys him because a lot of it is confusing and not many of them can comprehend it all. He says it a lot, but he dislikes incompetence and not producing the correct results. PLus, not many people like him( ) and that makes them less likely to try harder.

What are some similarities between Severus and the Dark Lord? Is there any other character in the series that has similarities close to Severus?

I think that they are both outsiders. Tom Riddle was an orphan and grew up alone. Severus was stuck in a home of fighting parents. Both were left out, and more clever than other students. Not many people liked them and the people they got close to weren't perhaps the 'right' sort of friends.

Is it possible that Severus was the greatest Occlumens of those alive at the time e.g. Dumbledore and Voldemort etc.?

Yes. I think my reasoning was already explained by several other people already, so I'll just summarize. Voldemort boasted that no one can lie to him. We later find out that it is because he is a supreme Occlumens. However, Severus was able to lie to him. Does that not answer the question? I mean, you have to be really good to pull the wool over an Occlumen's eyes; even more so to do the same to ol' Voldy. So yes.


I can't wait for the fanfic. That idea was my favorite out of all of them. But then, they were all really good, so I couldn't choose.

~Kel

hej,
thanks for welcoming..and also thanks foor the tip - WIP fanfic recommendations - lisa,..

about the valentine fanfic,I think it would be great. I hope it's going to be a long story. I don't like storys that ends to fast. I would like to write my own fanfic, but I can't because my english is not that good. Anyway, I hope we will have good conversations and many more nice ideas here.

Rebecca

Aw, you picked my idea! I'm touched!

I can't wait for the fanfic to start up!

Um... I think I've answered all the questions, so how about a new one?

Do you think Severus has ever recieved a Valentines card? Do you think he's ever sent one?

Ellie
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Nice question

Do you think Severus has ever recieved a Valentines card? Do you think he's ever sent one?

I can see Snape making his own card for Lily before Hogwarts. Perhaps even after they are at Hogwarts. Lily might have pitied him enough to give him one. I really can't see anyone else Snape would give one to or receive one from...

Do you think Severus has ever recieved a Valentines card? Do you think he's ever sent one?


I can't see Severus really getting a Valentine's Day card. Lily was probably the closest person to him (of the opposite sex) and I can't even see her giving him a card. And no I don't think he's ever sent one. Wether he thought about it or not I don't know. I can't really see him getting into the Valentine's Day theme, even in private. So I don't think he ever was close to sending a card.


-Nick
HJP

Do you think Severus has ever recieved a Valentines card? Do you think he's ever sent one?

Well, I don't think Snape would actually get a card, but I do think he would buy or make one for Lily perhaps, but never send it. If he ever did send a cart it must have been in in younger years, because when he got older, he probably think it's nonsens. I think he didn't even noticed when it was valentines day when he was older. He never got much love... Poor Severus

xx Rebecca

Hehe ok here's an amusing question:

If Snape could have notable talent in one muggle subject, what would it be and why?

I think he would be good at sciences perhaps, this pertaining to t´his talent for potions, similarities are appaernt between the two subjects. Other than that, possibly maths or some such complicado subject. He just seems the type to be good at the tchnical, hard stuff.

Do you think Severus has ever recieved a Valentines card? Do you think he's ever sent one?

Perhaps Dumbledore sent him one, in his adult years, but other than that, I don't think so. And I don't see him ever giving one. I do see him getting one for Lily in his younger years but not sending it, like Rebecca said, though.

If Snape could have notable talent in one muggle subject, what would it be and why?

I see him being good at History, Math and Chemistry. I don't really see him caring much about English and subjects like that.

And Lisa. . . Thank you so much for recommending my fics. You are far too sweet!

Do you think Severus has ever received a Valentines card? Do you think he's ever sent one?

I don't think Severus ever received a Valentine's day card, poor guy. I agree with a few others who thought that Sev might have given a card to Lily when they were younger, probably before they went to Hogwarts. He would have made it seem like it was just the thing to do though, rather than admitting he was gaga for Lily. Wouldn't that be so cute??


If Snape could have notable talent in one muggle subject, what would it be and why?

Science I think; and probably, more specifically, Chemistry as it's so close to potions in some ways. I considered physics, but what would a wizard need with physics?

Lisa

If Snape could have notable talent in one muggle subject, what would it be and why?


Hmmm... I sometimes think that Severus would be great in science because of the similarities with it and potions. For some reason, I believe that he would be absolutely amazing in English. He just comes across as a well read person; with that, it seems that he must have an advantage in English.

Have you ever known someone in real life that reminded you of Snape?

Yes, I know someone like that; she had about the same childhood. She is very secluded from people as a whole, and she bites off anyone's head if they try to get too close to her. She had a majorly scarring event happen to her that turned her into this person...

It's my first time in here and I thought I'd post, because I think Snape's great! I'll take a shot at the questions now.

If Snape could have notable talent in one muggle subject, what would it be and why?

I think he'd be especially good at science, considering how he is in the magical world. But he seems extremely well-rounded and he could probably succeed in anything he set his mind to.

Do you think Severus has ever received a Valentines card? Do you think he's ever sent one?

I think Lily gave him one, just to be a nice friend. She didn't mean anything by it, she just didn't want him to feel bad about himself. He might've sent one to Lily, because he certainly did like her as more than a friend. I think he would've left the card signed 'anonymous'. He would've been too embarrassed. She probably would've known it was from him though.

Have you ever known someone in real life that reminded you of Snape?

Not really. Someone had a similarity personality, but I don't think I've ever known anyone who had it like Snape did.

Welcome rebeccie and hot-for-harry!

If Snape could have notable talent in one muggle subject, what would it be and why?

I agree with the rest of you: our beloved Potions master would probably be best at Science. I think he would also be good at Math, because he has the type of brain good for handling tough problems.

Do you think Severus has ever received a Valentines card? Do you think he's ever sent one?

I don't think so. He wasn't exactly erm, likeable in what we see in the books. As a child, he was a loner and kind of freakish. *ducks from angry Severus lovers* And when he was older he didn't encourage people doing that sort of stuff for him. I think he might have wrote one for Lily, but I think it would have been a private thing that he kept to himself.

Have you ever known someone in real life that reminded you of Snape?

No. There are people I have met that aren't very nice, or are science geeks, but not to the extent of Severus.

~Kel

Have you ever known someone in real life that reminded you of Snape?


Actually it's not anyone I know personally but, every time i watch Spongebob, Squidward always reminds me of our amazing Severus Snape.


Okay here's a question: Do you think Snape's father impacted his life more than he ever let on? Even to Dumbledore?

Do you think Severus has ever received a Valentines card? Do you think he's ever sent one?

I don't think he received a serious one from a person who actually liked him in that way. Lily and Severus probably sent them back and forth as children, just to be friendly. But other than that, nothing other than a joke, maybe played by Fred and George, comes to mind.

If Snape could have notable talent in one muggle subject, what would it be and why?

I think mostly it would be Chemistry, considering it's the closet thing the Potions. But a talent different than what he has in the wizarding world, I would say maybe a writer. I know it sounds odd, but he's probably good at Latin, for maybe potion names. He seriously goes deeper than what we see, so I would say Literature.

Have you ever known someone in real life that reminded you of Snape?

Nope, never. That would be interesting though.

Do you think Snape's father impacted his life more than he ever let on? Even to Dumbledore?

Very good question Alonnet. I'm going to do some more research on this, because my brain is our of it right now, and get back to this.

Oh, and welcome to SOSS, Alyssa!

*Kiersten*

Hi hot-for-harry and welcome aboard!

Have you ever known someone in real life that reminded you of Snape?

No, not that I can recall and I think I would remember if I did!

Do you think Snape's father impacted his life more than he ever let on? Even to Dumbledore?

That's a really great question! I think his father must have impacted his life a great deal. Tobias was abusive(verbally, at least) and neglectful of Severus and his mother. It also seems that Tobias' mistreatment of Eileen caused her to be neglectful of Severus as well. Probably she was too concerned with what he might do next to consider "mundane" things like making sure Sev was dressed reasonably well.

I think this treatment harmed Severus deeply and made him very leery of people in general, much like a stray dog who's been kicked repeatedly. It also made him self sufficient at an early age. He only had himself to depend on a lot of the time. I feel like his childhood sufferings made him into the type of man he became: cold, suspicious, extremely dark and serious.

Regarding Dumbledore: yeah, I think Severus kept this information from Dumbledore. It doesn't seem like the type of thing he'd share with anyone except Lily.

Oh, now I really want to give him a hug! I think I'll send him a Valentine this year.

Lisa

Do you think Snape's father impacted his life more than he ever let on? Even to Dumbledore?

I think so, but I don't think Snape ever really realized it. Snape channeled his anger into hating James/Harry, not wishing his dad had been nicer. Severus would probably be a very different man had his father been a nice man. Snape's dad probably wished he could be part of the wizarding community, and felt jealous of Eileen and Severus. (He then passed that lovely envy-gene to Snape)

If Snape had realized how much his dad impacted his life, he probably wouldn't have said anything to Dumbledore. Snape confided in Dumbledore, yes, but not really with things that didn't need to be said to Albus. He sort of was on a need to know basis.

Thanks everyone for the welcome!

Do you think Snape's father impacted his life more than he ever let on? Even to Dumbledore?

I think that with Severus being around his father so much he picked up part of the negative attitude and hate towards some other people. I know that a lot of people are that way when they are neglected by their parents. When Severus didn't get attention and love from his father- and earlier on he only really knew his family, he didn't have much of a social life- therefore he didn't know another kind of life, and became cold and angry, himself.

If he had known just how much his father had affected him, he might've told Dumbledore, but I don't think he would've. He seems to be the kind of man who keeps to himself, unless it's impossible to do something himself. I think he gained that trait from his father too, because he couldn't exactly ask his father for help.

~alyssa~

Do you think Snape's father impacted his life more than he ever let on? Even to Dumbledore?
Yes, definitely. I think Tobias being the abusive alcoholic moron that he was, had a geat impact on Snape's self-esteem. Part of his outward negative attitude is, I belive, to do with the fact that he's so unhappy with himself. I think he used the Dark Arts as an escape route from his father, and as a means to make the friends he sadly lacked in childhood. Also, I agree with what has been said about Snape learning hostility to others through his father. Overall, I think if his childhood had been better, he would have been an altogether different person.

Ellie
xxx