PrettynPink8004
May 15 2004, 11:40 PM
HEy, those are all good theories. I know JK said that there would be a lot more deaths in the upcoming books. Do you think it would be possibly that JK would kill off Lupin or a Weasley (prehaps Mr. Weasley) in a future book? I am just saying this cuz she already killed off a person that was like a father to Harry, and his real father. Prehaps she is killing off all the people he may consider a father......Just a thought. Also jk said harry will be asking a lot of questions that we would this he would already have asked. Prehaps something about girls and dating and such..... any other ideas?
Naz
May 16 2004, 12:22 AM
i think that percy will die or get hurt or something.
PrettynPink8004
May 16 2004, 01:51 AM
yeh because he betrayed his family.
jamal
May 17 2004, 12:32 AM
Where does is say all this stuff bout aberfoth and the goat?? i need to know!!!!! thanks
Matthew
May 17 2004, 12:51 AM
Jamal-
It talks about it in the following passage from "DUMBLEDORE'S GIANT MISTAKE" of Goblet of Fire:
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| \"An excellent point,\" said Professor Dumbledore. \"My own brother, Aberforth, was prosecuted for practicing inappropriate charms on a goat. It was all over the papers, but did Aberforth hide? No, he did not! He held his head high and went about his business as usual! Of course, I'm not entirely sure he can read, so that may not have been bravery. . ..\" |
Naz
May 17 2004, 01:12 AM
i think that it was sirius's destiny to die or something like that.
jamal
May 17 2004, 04:08 PM
ok, u have a question about when, in the PoA, when HP finds out that Sirius is trying to find and kill him. Did DD know before the whole time in the Shreiking Shack that Sirius was not actually a murder? Did he really know the truth about Peter Pettigrew? its just something ive been wondering about!
jamal
May 17 2004, 07:28 PM
OOOOPSS!!! this is refering to my last post rite above^^^^^^^^^^^^^^, its not U that had the question, it IS ME! lol so if any1 knows that would be great.
PrettynPink8004
May 17 2004, 09:15 PM
I am not entirely sure. I think he did but I may be mistaken.
Thorium
May 18 2004, 04:36 PM
Dumbledore didn't know that Padfoot, Prongs and Wormtail became animagi also the Marauders map was unknown to him. So I do not think that DD knew that Sirius was innocent, otherwise DD might have went looking for wormtail / a rat.
Would it be possible that the anger and hatred that Harry had in the end of book 5 is also felt by Voldemort. If voldemort feels anger or hatred Harry feels it too. I'am not sure how to fit this in book 6 maybe this rage will tempt Harry to become also a Dark Wizard so he can fight Voldemort on equal terms. Hermione and ron will try to stop this. Maybe...?
manni
May 22 2004, 10:11 AM
i think because in every book the hatred between harry and draco grows stronger that they will have a fight at the to prove who is greater
Thorium
May 22 2004, 09:30 PM
I think that Harry will save Draco. Like James saved Snape in the past.
Naz
May 23 2004, 03:03 AM
harry probably will end up saving draco from something sooner or later.
mayihaveyourboot
May 24 2004, 03:37 PM
i think Harry will have a final battle with Vodemort in the 7th book (obviously!) and both will die. but here's why/how...
Because their wands are brother wands and can't be used against each other, i think Dumbledore will help some how, but Voldemort will kill him. Dumbledore, on his death bed will give Harry some well needed words of encouragement (coz harry thinks all is lost) and Harry catches the now very happy Voldemort off guard and kills him, but because it takes so much streangth to use the wand against Voldemort, harry will die shortly after.
Harry can die coz even tho it says neither can live whilst the other is alive, it doesn't say anything about them both dying!
I also think there'll be some sort of eplilogue where you find out about the other characters,
Hermonie and Ron, married, Hermonine as Minister of Magic, Ron doing something...
Neville, defense against the darks arts teacher at Hogwarts (i think we'll see him play a big part in what ever happens)
Professor McGonagall as Headmistress of Hogwarts
Snape and Lupin dead (both sacrificing their lives for Harry or trying to kll Voldemort)
And then....you see Harry in death, meeting his parents. aww!
All complete rubbish, but my view of what'll happen. I think Harry HAS to die other wise it'll be so much pressure on JK to write another set of books about him. to really make sure she won't, she has to kill Harry. (and let's be honest his attitute in the5th book wasn't that nice, so do we blame her?? im joking)
wow, i wrote loads
Louise
May 24 2004, 05:44 PM
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I disagree with Sirius being dead. In an interview she said this:
\" Kelpie_8: Will the two way mirror Sirius gave Harry ever show up again?
JK Rowling replies -> Ooooo good question. There's your answer.
.....
SiriuslyLovinSirius: If we ever see Sirius again, what form will he be in?
JK Rowling replies -> I couldn't possibly answer that for fear of incriminating myself.\"
incriminating means like giving herself away. This interview was the one in March. SO even though she said she cried when she 'killed' sirius off, i dont think he is really and truely dead. |
I really hope you're right! Personally, I think that with everything poor HP has had to go through already, it's a wonder he's still sane. If JK is trying to build motivation and anger within HP to get him ready for the final confrontation with Voldemort, don't you think that killing his parents was already enough? Not to mention nearly killing Ginny in book 2, actually killing Cedric in book 4 etc. That's enough anger to get your blood moving without taking the closest thing he has to a second father from him too!!
I just loved the character and I really hope he's not gone permanently. Even if he just appears in visions or dreams...This 'Through The Veil' business is quite esoteric in its meaning anyway, and, as JK seems pretty interested in all things mystical, I would think that she's aware of that. I don't think he's truly gone, despite anything Sir Nicholas might have to say!!
Trustno1
NastyShort
May 24 2004, 09:27 PM
Very interesting mayihaveyourboot.
Harry dying would make the series somewhat original......but not really. Because the main character dying has already happened......in another series.
But it would somehow be.......I dunno somewhat better for me that way. I think better for all of us.
Naz
May 24 2004, 09:58 PM
i think that it will be ironic if she kills harry off... a lot of people are expecting to see harry kill voldemort and live.
bam_bam
Jun 9 2004, 05:17 PM
just a thought....james potter saved Snape...so SNape and James have connection..So then do Harry and Snape have a connection????????? :?:
PrettynPink8004
Jun 10 2004, 04:12 PM
Ok, I donno if anyone has written this here in the past (I've been away from the forums for awhile) but another thing I think is that Harry will try and push all his friends away from him to save them. He probably thinks it his fault that his parents, cedric, and sirius died. Once he got close to them and got to know them they died, so he might think that if he isn't close to Ron, Hermione, and everyone else they cant get hurt. But everyone he loves is already at risk because they're in the Order or muggle born, so someone will point that out. He may still be trying to get away from them until someone smacks some sense into him.
Thats something i think might happen. But who know i may just be reading to many fanfictions. (I get a lot of things from those) lol.
-Lindsay~~
SexyHotCookie
Jun 11 2004, 04:12 AM
I think Ron will die. I was looking on the internet and I read something really really interesting. It had to do with the wands of all the people that were killed. Cedric's wand had a unicorn tail hair in it. And so does Ron's, both of them in fact. And if you remember in the first book, one of the centaurs says "always the innocent are the first to die". So I think that Ron will die, in the 7th book.
I also think that Harry and Hermione will end up together if Harry lives.
PrettynPink8004
Jun 11 2004, 04:25 PM
Yeah, I think Ron might die too. That is interesting about the wand thing. I never really thought of that. I don't think Harry and Hermione will end up together though. They might live with each other at the end (you know how friends do) but i think Hermione has a thing for Ron, and if he dies in the 7th book, I don't think she'll turn to Harry and say 'O i like u lets go out'. I think they'll both be devistated and Hermione will cry on Harry's shoulder, but not go out with him.
mystydog
Jun 11 2004, 07:37 PM
I cant remember the site....but, JKR is quoted as considering the writing of an 8th book.....
I dont see Harry dying...in any case......Ron maybe........but, I have a sneaking suspician it is either Lupin or Hagrid.....
pots13
Jun 12 2004, 09:51 PM
Just something I noticed; Dumbledore tells Voldemort that his greatest weakness is the fact that he doesn't recognize that there is something worse than death. But when the Weasley twins, Ron, and Harry are talking about weapons at Grimmauld place, Ron asks "what's worse than death?"
PrettynPink8004
Jun 13 2004, 12:03 AM
I think that the things they are referring to as being worse than death is watching all your friends and family die and knowing that they died for you. Even if it was for you, one would still feel very guilty for a long time.
pots13
Jun 13 2004, 04:58 PM
But does the quote have any meaning towards the possibility that Ron would die or go to the 'dark side' etc? (I honestly hope he doesn't but if he does there isn't much we can do about it).
PrettynPink8004
Jun 13 2004, 07:40 PM
Ooooo... Maybe your right pots13. Maybe the thing worse than death is going against your side and becoming evil... Hmm...
SexyHotCookie
Jun 13 2004, 09:36 PM
Another thing about Ron. I'm not sure but something that was mentioned in the 4th book might be really important later on. I still really think Ron's gonna die but he might die for different reasons than protecting Harry and Hermione. When Moody puts the Imperius Curse on everyone in the class, it mentions afterward that Ron had a really hard time with it and that he was still having after effects of it. That might be important later, because if he has trouble with that curse it could be used against him.
PrettynPink8004
Jun 13 2004, 09:55 PM
Yeah. Can any of the trio actually throw off the curse if they don't know its being casted on them? Like harry threw it off after 'Moody' put it on him. But he saw moody do it. What if he didn't see tem so it. Like say, Malfoy was in the coridor sneaking up behind harry and said the cuse in a whisper. Would he know it was cast on him?
SexyHotCookie
Jun 13 2004, 11:24 PM
i think they'd recognize the feeling it gave them, cuz it was described in the book, but if ron had trouble fighting it, it might be even harder for him to throw it off if he didn't know it was coming.
PrettynPink8004
Jun 14 2004, 01:27 AM
yeah. I was thinking what characters might die in the end of the book. I was hoping that none of them would be the ones i like such as ron, hermione, ginny, harry, tonks, lupin, hagrid.. and the list went on and on and on. The i realised some of my favorite characters are going to die, cuz i like all of them, but my favorites are harry ron ginny and hermione. and i think ron is going to die, but i hope not cuz i really liked sirius and when he died in the book i started crying.... i can go on and on and on. Listen to me rambling....
SexyHotCookie
Jun 14 2004, 03:33 AM
i know what you mean. i don't want ron to die, but for some reason i think he will. and the clues point to it happening. if you think about it, it always comes down to harry and hermione or just harry in all the adventures.
mystydog
Jun 14 2004, 06:46 AM
I think what Dubbledore is referring to in this statement to Voldie is very straight forward.....dying with your honor, integrity, and soul intact is alot better than sacrificing everything that is good just to stay alive and in GoF voldies comments make in obvious that this indeed is his obscession...immortality at any cost....
mystydog
Jun 14 2004, 06:56 AM
If you read book 5 when Harry is reviewing Snapes memories in the pesceive you will realize.....one obvious thing....
Snape was in love with Harry's mother.....Snape hates Voldemort for killing his unrequited love...and he hates Harry for being the son of the man won the heart of the woman he loves....but, he also is bound by his love for Lilly to protect Harry.....which is why Snape keeps going back and forth between helping Harry and being angry with him.....If you listen to some of the things Snape says to Harry they are mean yes..but, he is always admonishing Harry for not being doing a better job of living up to how a "proper and humble" wizzard should be acting....
Basically he expects so much of Harry that Harry cant possibly live up to it...but, of course Snape uses this to justify his anger.....since he cant face the real reason for it....
just a thought
NastyShort
Jun 14 2004, 03:27 PM
I've always gone along with the Lily/Snape theory. It does make a lot of sense, and that's probably why James teased him so much, because he knew about it.
And Harry, I guess, is expected to be VERY brilliant by his elders when you look at what his parents were. (Headboy and Girl)
PrettynPink8004
Jun 14 2004, 05:07 PM
Ok, so snape was supposedly in love with lily, but was lily in love with him before she met james? Lily/James relationship doesn't really make sense because in snapes memory, lily seemed like she hated james
NastyShort
Jun 14 2004, 08:43 PM
Right, right, and she didn't like James until their seventh year. After James left her and "Snivellus" alone.
I think Sirius told Harry that in the fifth book.....I'm pretty sure.
PrettynPink8004
Jun 14 2004, 08:45 PM
Ok, thanks for clearing that up. I'll have to re-re-read that part again
NastyShort
Jun 14 2004, 08:48 PM
No problem. That's one of my favorite parts in the book. Moody Harry is so cute. XD
Do you think Harry will find out more about his parent's Hogwarts years for Lupin? Because Lupin will probably notice the resentment that Harry now holds for James, and he'd definately want to clear that up, so wouldn't he tell him more stuff about his parents?
PrettynPink8004
Jun 14 2004, 11:06 PM
Yeah, i think he would. I read this fanfic one time, where Lupin put his good memories of his school days in a penisive (sp?? sorry), and showed them to Harry. That would be cool if Lupin did that for Harry and showed them to him.
Naz
Jun 21 2004, 10:56 PM
^^that would be nice
PrettynPink8004
Jun 22 2004, 04:51 PM
Yeah. You know how Wormtail owes Harry cuz he saved his life, well I wonder how thats going to happen. Maybe he will go against Voldemort to tell him somthing, or sacrafice himself for harry to live?
Naz
Jun 22 2004, 10:31 PM
i think that will happen. peter does owe harry his life
PrettynPink8004
Jun 23 2004, 02:54 AM
Do you think anyone is the Minsitry is working against them? Like as a spy for Voldemort. I wonder who it would be. Bagman? Fudge?
Patronus
Jun 23 2004, 10:52 PM
Bagman isn't at ministry anymore though is he? He owed a lot of people money. There will defintely be spys within the ministry, I think.
peaceoflorien
Jun 26 2004, 06:45 AM
Well think about it, Harry owns gimmauld place now, hes Sirius's only heir...
Everything Black owns now belongs to Harry... Mybe he'll find a way to contact himthrough his old possesions. I dont know about you guys, but when Harry found that mirror in his luggage, it KILLED me... =(
Naz
Jun 26 2004, 05:42 PM
i think that harry will be able to talk to sirius *hopes*
peaceoflorien
Jun 26 2004, 05:45 PM
^we can hope together then, because if she ends the series without another word from sirius, Ill die.
LupariusMurilegus
Jun 26 2004, 08:18 PM
I also think Ron will die. See, he's never actually advanced to the bitter end of each of Harry's "challenges". He's always been set back (chess,Gilderoy,broken leg,maze,brain) so I think if he does make it to the end, he will die. He may in fact sacrifice himself for Harry as he did in book 1. Also, all of the parental figures close to Harry have died (James, Lily, Sirius) and still he could not perform an unforgivable curse. As Bellatrix said "you have to mean it". What would drive Harry to curse someone more than the death of his family? Well, his best friend's death. Although his parents were, well, his parents and Sirius like a father, Ron has been with Harry since the beginning when his parents and Sirius weren't there. To Harry Ron is solid. Ron's death may be the driving force Harry needs to kill Voldemort.
I do not, however, think that Lupin will die. He was a Marauder, but he was different than the other 3 who have or will die(d). He was a wereworlf to begin with, so he had no choice in transforming into an animal. As well, he's always stood out from the rest of them as he was so different in other ways. Maybe he'll stand out in the end as well by not dying?
And, I also agree that Buckbeak will play an important role as JKR didn't save him for nothing...
peaceoflorien
Jun 26 2004, 10:58 PM
why ronnnn!!? Ron has to live so he can be with Hermione! If Ron dies, I'll eat my cauldren.
Voldemort
Jun 26 2004, 11:04 PM
I can't make any predictions or theories about Book 6, but Book 7 is where I find my theories fairly accurate. Harry and Ron are gonna meet up with Voldemort and they are gonna square up, Voldemort is gonna surprise Harry with an Avada Kedavra Curse, Ron will jump in front of it and save Harry sacraficing himself to save Harry, then Harry's hatred and his anger PLUS his actualy wizard power are all gonna cooperate and work together and become one big huge powerful curse/spell that is just gonna kill Voldemort. I also think that somehow Harry is going to die, like his spell/curse against Voldemort to kill him is gonna just take his breath away, be TOO much for him to handle, and that they both are gonna die. Then Harry will be remembered as.....etc.
What ya think?