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amortentia_149
As it's summer time, where do you think Ravenclaws would like to spend their summer vacation? A place of historical interest perhaps? Or just spending time with their family and friends? As a Ravenclaw yourself, would you have any preferences?

Well, of course there's no telling what each individual from Ravenclaw would want to do in the summer, but i have a few guesses. Some might prefer vacationing with their relatives or friends to beautiful places, museums, or maybe just a nice beach. I would suppose they might also like to stay home and relax, relieve stress, or read up on the coming year (or if they were graduating from their seventh year, maybe practicing for their magical career).
I, myself, would like to tour historical places, but sometimes i just feel like i want to hit the party scene and hang out at the beach.
Basically, though, i would presume Ravenclaws would want to be learning while they take their vacation, because no matter what you do there is always something to be taught.
clara morgue
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I LOVE seeing old buildings/castles and trying to imagine what they looked like back in their days of grandeur.


Me too! biggrin.gif I love architecture anyway, but I find that when I'm standing in an old building, my immagination can really run riot, and its a real bit of escapism for me.

For Ravenclaw's in general.. I don't really think that there's one thing that every Ravenclaw would enjoy, just because we're such a varied group of people. The one thing that I think seperates Ravenclaw's from other houses in terms of holidays, is that most Ravenclaw's will be willing to try anything, at least once. How can you be knowledgable about things that you've never done and places you've never been.
I see every possibility as an opportunity that's really worth taking, and I think a lot of Ranvenclaw's share that view.

Clara}~
Crazedd Redneckk
Well im back from the lake and rather sun burnt but i guess I can still type.

As it's summer time, where do you think Ravenclaws would like to spend their summer vacation? A place of historical interest perhaps? Or just spending time with their family and friends? As a Ravenclaw yourself, would you have any preferences?

Hmm.. As a Ravenclaw and just being myself in general I would love to go somewhere of historical intrest. I have always loved History and anything involoving it. I go to the lake with my friends and family but I always start talking about Harry Potter and well Learning (ok ok not as much of this, But alot of Harry Potter) Its kind of a fifty fifty thing for me

Andrew
bookworm_1918
Hey everybody!

I just finished OOTP about five minutes ago. I found something interesting about Ravenclaw.

Professor McGonagall had just added fifty points to Ravenclaw, and it mentioned something about fifty sapphires falling into the Ravenclaw whatcha-ma-callit. I think Gryffindor has house points measured in rubies, and Ravenclaw has them in sapphires. I know my last sentence didn't make sense, sorry. I just thought that was kind of interesting.

Also, in OOTP, when Neville, Luna, Harry, Ron, Hermione, and Ginny were going to ride thestrals to the MoM, Harry had noticed that Luna looked like she had ridden a thestral before...here's a quote from the book:

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Luna was already in place, sitting sidesaddle and adjusting her robes as if she did this everyday


JKR also mentioned another sentence like this after they got to the Ministry of Magic, which made me think, Had Luna ridden a thestral before that moment in OOPT? It's rather odd that she would've, but then again...Luna is an odd person laugh.gif smile.gif (And I mean that in a very good way, Luna is one of my favorite characters)

What do you guys think?
lycan41
As it's summer time, where do you think Ravenclaws would like to spend their summer vacation? A place of historical interest perhaps? Or just spending time with their family and friends? As a Ravenclaw yourself, would you have any preferences?


Ravenclaws just sittin' back, relaxin', and chatin',very nice. On to the question, Ravenclaws have varying tastes in everything we do, some, I think would like to travel, while others just want to hang with family and friends.



Myself, I've been to Turkey, Oman, Germany, Japan, and now Kyrgystan; being in places that I know the Roman Empire was (Turkey), or living within a culture that isn't mine (I live in Eau Claire, WI when not in Kyrgzstan), is excellent. Learning new languages and interacting with different people is what life is about.

Had Luna ridden a thestral before that moment in OOPT?

Luna was a very young girl when her mother passed away during that experiment. She'd been able to see a thestral since her first year, when most others thought the carriges moved on their own. I'm pretty sure she had ridden one prior to heading to the MoM. That's how she knew they were so gentle and woud allow the New Order to ride.
bookworm_1918
Had Luna ridden a thestral before that moment in OOPT?

That's true, she could always see them...her mother died two years before she came to Hogwarts. Maybe her Dad took her on an expedition or something (like they were planning on doing to catch a Crumple Horned Snorkack)

Um...I think we're in need of a different/new question. Unless anyone has more answers to my question (but my question isn't really that good...) Insomnia? Our seventh year with awesome questions? Would you give us a good question? blink.gif laugh.gif
Insomnia
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Insomnia? Our seventh year with awesome questions? Would you give us a good question?

Oh, geez. Now the pressure's on. unsure.gif laugh.gif

Hmmm... Okay, I have a couple of ideas/questions that I can throw out there. Hope I don't disappoint!

Seeing as how Ravenclaw was the only founder to have a statue of herself in the common room and had a riddle knocker to gain entry, instead of the usual password the other Houses use, do you think this speaks something of her character? Do you think she placed herself above the other founders by trying to be different? Or do you think it was just her intelligence that she was trying to rise above the repetitiveness of the others?

Do you think it was arrogance that had Rowena Ravenclaw use the knocker instead of the password system thinking that no one but a Ravenclaw would know the answers to the riddles? (With the password system, they kept changing the password to minimize the risk of being broken into by a non-House student. Granted, the riddles changed, but all it took was some intelligene to answer the question and gain entry.) Or do you think it was just for fun and learning?
Crazedd Redneckk
Do you think it was arrogance that had Rowena Ravenclaw use the knocker instead of the password system thinking that no one but a Ravenclaw would know the answers to the riddles? (With the password system, they kept changing the password to minimize the risk of being broken into by a non-House student. Granted, the riddles changed, but all it took was some intelligene to answer the question and gain entry.) Or do you think it was just for fun and learning?

Arrogance, no, smarts yes. I think that it is unique and interesting to have Ravenclaw as the house with the knocker. These questions would only be that Ravenclaws knew. I mean there may be a chance it is less protective or something like that. But Maybe Ravenclaw thought that students in her house would be much more intelligent therefore applying the knocker and asking riddles. Maybe it is arrogance blink.gif

Andrew
bookworm_1918
You go, Insomnia! Great questions!

Seeing as how Ravenclaw was the only founder to have a statue of herself in the common room and had a riddle knocker to gain entry, instead of the usual password the other Houses use, do you think this speaks something of her character? Do you think she placed herself above the other founders by trying to be different? Or do you think it was just her intelligence that she was trying to rise above the repetitiveness of the others?
I think that Rowena placed herself above others because she thought that she was beautiful and smart. And beauty and intelligence are important, but I think she was a little too prideful. She also probably wanted to be different, not just fit in, but stand out, get attention, which might be how she seemed arrogant/prideful. Becuase of her cleverness, (and like Hermione) she had ideas that nobody else had thought of (E.C. When Hermione makes good theories, like with Riddle's Diary in CoS) That might have been part of it, too.

Do you think it was arrogance that had Rowena Ravenclaw use the knocker instead of the password system thinking that no one but a Ravenclaw would know the answers to the riddles? (With the password system, they kept changing the password to minimize the risk of being broken into by a non-House student. Granted, the riddles changed, but all it took was some intelligene to answer the question and gain entry.) Or do you think it was just for fun and learning?
You've got to admit that Ravenclaw might have been a little too show-offy and had a LOT of pride, but she was also clever, and didn't want a password, wanted something different to make her and the Ravenclaws...well, stand out! I think Rowena knew that not just Ravenclaws would know the answer, but it still gave out the impression that only smart people could get in Ravenclaw common room.

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Ginny.Weasley
I feel quite insignificant here. My brain really isn't running on all cylinders hahaha. laugh.gif I'll try my best though.

Seeing as how Ravenclaw was the only founder to have a statue of herself in the common room and had a riddle knocker to gain entry, instead of the usual password the other Houses use, do you think this speaks something of her character? Do you think she placed herself above the other founders by trying to be different? Or do you think it was just her intelligence that she was trying to rise above the repetitiveness of the others?


As bookworm_1918 said, I think Rowena was very dignified and prideful. These differences could be because of a want to step out and be different, but her character as the Grey Lady described it makes me think that she might have been a rather well-to-do witch. I think that perhaps she wanted to be different but she also wanted to prove that her ways were better than those of the other founders. She probably believed that the knocker system would be much more efficient than the passwords, and probably had her own ideas on how to run the school. I'm just running on a whim here, but this is what her character leads me to believe.

I would answer the other question, but my answer would be similar to that which I have already said.

I have a question for you all though...

Why do you think Rowena's item was the diadem? How does it symbolize the House or her? Gryffindor has the sword to represent bravery, Slytherin has the locket which would be passed down and could represent lineage, and Hufflepuff has the cup which could represent their friendly nature. What does the diadem (or tiara, whichever) represent for us?

--x Lauren
Insomnia
Why do you think Rowena's item was the diadem? How does it symbolize the House or her? Gryffindor has the sword to represent bravery, Slytherin has the locket which would be passed down and could represent lineage, and Hufflepuff has the cup which could represent their friendly nature. What does the diadem (or tiara, whichever) represent for us?

Well, Rowena Ravenclaw's diadem was said to enhance the wisdom of the wearer. Since that is the main attribute of the Ravenclaw House, it represents Ravenclaw and her House extremely well. Plus, it had the Rowena's famous quote etched upon it: "Wit beyond measure is a man's greatest treasure."

Rowena's daughter had stolen the diadem in hopes of making herself wiser because she was jealous of the attention her mother was receiving. In fact, part of me wonders if she did get that burst of extra wisdom and therefore saw the error of her act. Perhaps that is why she never returned and lived in shame until the Baron took her life. But even then, she went on to become a ghost and continued to live with that shame, never really revealing that she had stolen the diadem and hidden it away (except to LV and Harry).

Sometimes wisdom has a price. You can realize, see, and achieve your greatest achievements; but wisdom's not prejudice to what it shows you. It'll also show your greatest mistakes in detail.

Sorry, got a little side-tracked there. rolleyes.gif Anyway, as I mentioned above, I think the diadem was an excellent representation of the Ravenclaw House for what it stood for and it's purpose.
bookworm_1918
Why do you think Rowena's item was the diadem? How does it symbolize the House or her? Gryffindor has the sword to represent bravery, Slytherin has the locket which would be passed down and could represent lineage, and Hufflepuff has the cup which could represent their friendly nature. What does the diadem (or tiara, whichever) represent for us?
I agree with Insomnia, on the fact that it was supposed to enhance wisdom and it had 'Wit beyond measure is a man's greatest treasure' , that it represented Ravenclaw House well. I also think, though, that it could stand for beauty, because I think Rowena Ravenclaw was very beautiful, and the diadem could also represent that.

Seeing as how Ravenclaw was the only founder to have a statue of herself in the common room and had a riddle knocker to gain entry, instead of the usual password the other Houses use, do you think this speaks something of her character? Do you think she placed herself above the other founders by trying to be different? Or do you think it was just her intelligence that she was trying to rise above the repetitiveness of the others?


Back to this question...I just want to bring up a point here that Ginny.Weasley made.

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I think that perhaps she wanted to be different but she also wanted to prove that her ways were better than those of the other founders. She probably believed that the knocker system would be much more efficient than the passwords, and probably had her own ideas on how to run the school.


I have no doubt that Ravenclaw thought that her ideas were better than everyone else's. I think one of her greatest flaws is being too prideful...
forsaken_wolfess
It's summer time, where do you think Ravenclaws would like to spend their summer vacation? A place of historical interest perhaps? Or just spending time with their family and friends? As a Ravenclaw yourself, would you have any preferences?

Well, I like someplace relaxing, where I can do all the intellectual stuff, like reading and writing, that I love to do. I think Ravenclaws want to go someplace peaceful or informative, like a museum or a historic site of some kind. (The tower of London, the Pyramids, etcetera etcetera etcetera) That would be so much cooler than the way I'm spending my summer. You know, doing nothing at all.


nicky potter
Why do you think Rowena's item was the diadem? How does it symbolize the House or her? Gryffindor has the sword to represent bravery, Slytherin has the locket which would be passed down and could represent lineage, and Hufflepuff has the cup which could represent their friendly nature. What does the diadem (or tiara, whichever) represent for us?

I think that Rowena's item was a diadem because the diadem is placed on the head. The head which is what one needs to use when thinking, where the "smarts" are. A crown has always been seen as a treasure, something one has always wanted to attain, which is where there motto comes into play: 'Wit beyond measure is a man's greatest treasure'. Like I said it holds the power of enhancing your wits and since a crown is placed on your head it's like a symbol. You place the crown that enhances intelligence on the head, where your mind is. Did I make any sense to anyone?

Seeing as how Ravenclaw was the only founder to have a statue of herself in the common room and had a riddle knocker to gain entry, instead of the usual password the other Houses use, do you think this speaks something of her character? Do you think she placed herself above the other founders by trying to be different? Or do you think it was just her intelligence that she was trying to rise above the repetitiveness of the others?

Well first off having a riddle knocker to gain entry says alot about what she expects from her house. Maybe not expect but it is assume from you to know, since you are a Ravenclaw. I don't think that it placed her above in the sense that when it comes to something as simple as gaining entrance into the common room you need to answer correctly smart questions. But the fact how she makes one work there mind and makes the students go that extra mille to think outside the box and not memorize the answer. She probably always thought that one needs to think for themselves and not depend on others to help you answer your way out, that memorizing things are not the same as learning. Like they tell us in school. I think that the knocker riddle is just her way of making the kids think and not get the easy way out like memorize stuff that make no sense.


It's summer time, where do you think Ravenclaws would like to spend their summer vacation? A place of historical interest perhaps? Or just spending time with their family and friends? As a Ravenclaw yourself, would you have any preferences?

Well it is assume that if you're a Ravenclaw that you're going to be spending your time studying or locked up in the library, personally I think not. Although I am not a Ravenclaw I sometimes do think that I would have been one [but I am still a proud Hufflepuff] I would have two options. Maybe I would travel, and learn some culture as one would say. Travel around places see new sights. Then again, we are still teen, kids. And we would like a break from all that studying and testing, so mayeb hang out with the family and friends, before heading back to the books.


Though I am not a Ravenclaw I enjoyed answering some questions happy.gif


Nickers<3
Crazedd Redneckk
QUOTE(nicky potter @ Jul 24 2008, 03:32 AM) [snapback]523244[/snapback]

I think that Rowena's item was a diadem because the diadem is placed on the head. The head which is what one needs to use when thinking, where the "smarts" are. A crown has always been seen as a treasure, something one has always wanted to attain, which is where there motto comes into play: 'Wit beyond measure is a man's greatest treasure'. Like I said it holds the power of enhancing your wits and since a crown is placed on your head it's like a symbol. You place the crown that enhances intelligence on the head, where your mind is. Did I make any sense to anyone?



Oh, Very good answer Nicky Potter. That makes logical since. I think that she chose a diadem because of that very same reason. When I first read the question I was like. Well dont you wear a diadem on the head? But you snatched it from me Nicky. Oh well you win some and you lose some

Andrew
Ginny.Weasley
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I think that Rowena's item was a diadem because the diadem is placed on the head. The head which is what one needs to use when thinking, where the "smarts" are. A crown has always been seen as a treasure, something one has always wanted to attain, which is where there motto comes into play: 'Wit beyond measure is a man's greatest treasure'. Like I said it holds the power of enhancing your wits and since a crown is placed on your head it's like a symbol. You place the crown that enhances intelligence on the head, where your mind is. Did I make any sense to anyone?


This most definitely makes sense. We all should know how the diadem gives the wearer wisdom, and the question was more along the lines of why was that particular accesory chosen. Nicky your answer makes a lot of sense because wisdom and intelligence come from your brain right? Therefore putting something that would increase that on your head would make more sense than putting it say, on your foot.

So then, if that's the case...why would she pick such a fancy head piece? Surely a hat would suffice if that's all the item mattered for. Which leads to a point I made a few posts ago. I think the Rowena liked to think of herself to be better than the others and the diadem would symbolize superiority. She must have thought wisdom and intelligence to be superior to the traits of the other houses.

--x Lauren
nicky potter
why would she pick such a fancy head piece?

I always saw it as the reason she picked a crown, was because she saw that wisdom was precious, and it's very "expensive". Like not everyone has it, not saying that you can't attain it but it's the same with a crown. Not everyone can wear it but it doesn't mean you can't attain it. You have to be smart and find your way to it. Does that make sense? It's just her way of showing that it costs to attain the wisdom.
Ginny.Weasley
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I always saw it as the reason she picked a crown, was because she saw that wisdom was precious, and it's very "expensive".


I could see that being the case. For me though I have to think, would the material cost of something be comparable to wisdom? I consider wisdom and intelligence to be wonderful and essential tools whereas I don't really think of material worth to be all that important. Now others would disagree with me, especially seeing as the world we live in, but it's just how I perceive things. I would compare this to how Rowena thought. She obviously considered wisdom to be of higher worth than bravery or lineage, so I would have to think that how expensive an object is wouldn't really matter. Thought I like your explanation of how it is attainable but not everyone can attain it.

--x Lauren
nicky potter
You make a point Lauren. I didn't necasarily meant that wisdom is comparable to a crown. I meant more along the lines that both have the same significance to others. I made no sense there lol. Umm it possible that she thought highly of her self, because intelligence was seen always as something good to have, it use to be seen that if you had that then there wasn't need of anything, which isn't true. You need all qulaities, but point here is that probably the crown asides it from being placed on the head, maybe she always thought that wisdom was precious, and it was her way of showing that it meant alot more than other stuff. Simple as something to wear on the head, high maintenance as a crown.
forsaken_wolfess
Why would she pick such a fancy head piece?

Well, it really wasn't that fancy. Correct me if I'm wrong, isn't it basically a plain silver band with 'Wit beyond measure is man's greatest treasure' engraved on it? But, I always thought that Ravenclaws were slightly (sorry, keep in mind that I'm insulting myself as well) vain and liked pretty things. They were smart, but a little proud of themselves and what they can do. I think that's why Ravenclaw would want to advertise, so to speak, her diadem. To be proud of it, to have others notice and crave it.
nicky potter
Well I for some reason can't remember the description of the diadem, but if it's the way you described it forsaken wolfess then that changed everything. If you're correct then that shows that Rowena thought of wisdom as something precious as a crown but as simple to "wear". Did anybody get that last line?
forsaken_wolfess
In your post, not mine? Well, I think it means that wisdom is a really precious thing, like a crown ought to be. But wisdom is usually common sense coupled with the knowledge you come to have over life. Simple combination, is it not? But you'd be surprised how complicated some people see wisdom when it is really not that hard to have.
nicky potter
Oh no, it's very easy to gain wisdom. There are just things one must do to attain it. As if there are steps and one being patience, you can't get anywhere in life with out that. You but be very good at listening. Knowledge speaks, wisdom listens. My dad has always told me that. But some people feel like they want it now and can't wait and that's why some find it hard. Only those are truly meant to attain it will attain it. And anyone can attain it...
Ginny.Weasley
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Well, it really wasn't that fancy. Correct me if I'm wrong, isn't it basically a plain silver band with 'Wit beyond measure is man's greatest treasure' engraved on it? But, I always thought that Ravenclaws were slightly (sorry, keep in mind that I'm insulting myself as well) vain and liked pretty things. They were smart, but a little proud of themselves and what they can do


I really think this may be the case. I've always thought that if two house had to pair up with one another, it would be Gryffindor and Huffle in one group, and Slytherin and Ravenclaw in another. Ravenclaws as we know them in the books (with the exception of Luna) have always shown to be proud and slightly snotty at times.

About the "fanciness" of the headpiece. Yes the actual piece wasn't fancy as in diamonds and such, but in comparison to say, The Sorting Hat it could be considered "fancy". But then again, the other houses had metallic objects of worth, why wouldn't Ravenclaw as well?

--x Lauren
nicky potter
It's possible that Rowena thought highly of people and smarts. She thought that wisdom was everything, and that we can tell comes from some Ravenclaw. Snotty as Lauren says, flaunting it. So maybe Rowena wanted an item that was still worthy and made sense to the purpose of it, but not flaunting it since, the power itself will do everything?
bookworm_1918
Nice avatar, Ginny.Weasley... laugh.gif

forasken_wolfess, I think you're right, the diadem was just a plain band that said 'Wit Beyond Measure is man's greatest treasure'. That makes sense...and I'd like something like that compared to what Xenophilius Lovegood was trying to make.... tongue.gif

I'm just making wild ideas here, but maybe she just thought of the fact that wearing a crown makes her super-important, like with a Queen or King...she seemed like somebody who wanted to be noticed and respected for the things she did.
padfootx3
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Knowledge speaks, wisdom listens

wow nicky potter! your dad is really smart!

okay i think Rowena chose the crown because yes, she was a little haughty about her wisdom. Gryffindor choice a sword because it reflects bravery, so rowena's crown must reflect knowledge. Wit beyond measure is man's greatest treasure were the words put upon it so she obviously thought of wittyness as a great treasure, so maybe she wanted a material treasure of equal greatness. i dunno if it makes sensee tell me whatchaa think!

~Katee
bookworm_1918
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Wit beyond measure is man's greatest treasure were the words put upon it so she obviously thought of wittyness as a great treasure, so maybe she wanted a material treasure of equal greatness.


Wonderful answer, padfootx3 (or should i call you Katee? biggrin.gif ) She needs something to show how great she is, of course she does!
Ginny.Weasley
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Nice avatar, Ginny.Weasley...

Thank you! Call me Lauren by the way. laugh.gif

It's seem like we have a general agreement that Ravenclaw thought she was more important than the other houses and thought herself to be more...uhm..special, let's say? Katee I love your word; haughty. I think that's definitely a good one.

Katee your logic behind showing that wit is a treasure is awesome. I never even thought about it that way, but you know that would work!

--x Lauren
nicky potter
Ok I am going to explain what I think what Kate thought. Becuase I think she and I think alike lol If I am not mistaken are you implying that wit being of course seen [and written as] a man's greatest treasure, is the reason it is a crown. Because a crown is like a treasure as well? Correct me if I'm wrong lol


Nickers<3
tonks34772
Hello everyone I am a newly sorted Ravenclaw. RAVENCLAW ROCKS! I will be back with all the questions answered! But please don't wait up for me.

WAAHOOO I started page 13! LOL!
Ginny.Weasley
Welcome to Ravenclaw tonks34772! I hope you find yourself right at home here and we'll be waiting for your input! happy.gif

So another question for you wise minds. It's an opinion question so we'll have to think about it. Most of us have agreed that Ravenclaw was probably haughty and thought herself to be better than others. Why do you think she thought that way?

Just use your imagination and give us your thoughts! smile.gif

--x Lauren
nicky potter
Apologies for intruding on your house Ravenclaws. I really like some of the discussions you get into happy.gif

Most of us have agreed that Ravenclaw was probably haughty and thought herself to be better than others. Why do you think she thought that way?

Well let me start off with a rehtorical question lol how would you feel knowing that you have so much wisdom? Let's say more than others for the sake of argument? Who wouldn't be proud. I mean I have seen people trying to acheive that for so many years and some take them a lifetime. For her maybee it took awhile but by the looks of the way the founders were describe in the books, I always thought that they were still in there youth years .Yound adolescent. So accomplish and conquer wisdom at such a young age, that for others it takes longer, can makeo ne haughty. But on another note, wits has always been seen as something very important. I mean still to this day my dad reminds me that it's imprtant to be smart in life. Thank God though he doesn't suffocate me with constant reminders of doing perfect in school happy.gif point is. It's possible that her reasons are cocky and over confident, or it's hard that payed off. Unless she was born with the wisdom blink.gif then I would have to say that she's full of herself laugh.gif Just kidding.


Nicky<3
padfootx3
QUOTE(nicky potter @ Jul 27 2008, 02:34 PM) [snapback]524068[/snapback]

Ok I am going to explain what I think what Kate thought. Becuase I think she and I think alike lol If I am not mistaken are you implying that wit being of course seen [and written as] a man's greatest treasure, is the reason it is a crown. Because a crown is like a treasure as well? Correct me if I'm wrong lol


Nickers<3


haha i'm sorrrryy your right i do that a lot sad.gif but yes that is exactly what i mean! smile.gif
bookworm_1918 you can call me kate or padfootx3 ill know who your talking about smile.gif
(by the way are you a yankee fan because i'm pretty sure you werent born in 1918 tongue.gif )
WELCOME tonk34772! magic.gif

now for the questionnnn....
Most of us have agreed that Ravenclaw was probably haughty and thought herself to be better than others. Why do you think she thought that way?
nice use of the word haughty happy.gif haha! Well, maybe it wasn't fully her own fault, what if her parents bragged about her all the time about being one of the smartest witches? That would probably make her haughty. But if it was on her own then there is a possibility that she just felt proud to be smart, and JKR does have a tendency to make the witches in HP a little umm what's a word for when you always think you right? stubborn maybe - well for lack of a better word i'll use stubborn. So maybe she became so haughty because she was so stubborn and always thought she was right and that made her confident. i'm not sure if ive been making sense wacko.gif sorrrry!!!

~Kate

(wow i just noticed i put a LOT of smileys in this post)
forsaken_wolfess
Most of us have agreed that Ravenclaw was probably haughty and thought herself to be better than others. Why do you think she thought that way?

Well, assuming she's wise in all things, let's just look at how they live their lives. Gryffindor, being brave and heroic and all, would always do the right thing right away, without thinking, and probably get himself into trouble. Hufflepuff's compassion and loyalty could blind her in the same way. And Slytherin's evil ambition, although sometimes smarter than doing the right thing, can get you in big trouble by those, like the other founders, who are strong believers in good. With bringing wisdom as well as a sense of what's right, Ravenclaw could probably make the most sensible life decisions. Knowing that she'll probably fair better than the others could have contributed to her ego.

Think for a minute: If you went through your entire life being told how brilliant and destined for greatness you were, it would take a whole lot of modesty not to think so yourself. Even when she was a child, everyone must have told her how wise she was. Even if it was the truth, it might have encouraged her to think of herself as better than others. I mean, heroes are praised, sure, so we can say gryffindors might have a bit of an ego problem too. But real heroes should be like Harry, doing what's right without expecting the praise. Hufflepuffs... Well, they made be told their nice a lot, but they won't be hugely recognized. Hufflepuffs being overlooked the whole series proves that. And Slytherins... well, only bad people look at them highly.

Lots of people think smarts are the most important thing in the world. If you knew that a key part of who you are was so highly valued, wouldn't you be a bit of a snob? It's like people who know everyone think's their great. It's so hard not to take advantage of such praise and respect.
tonks34772
Questions and Answers for Ravenclaw House Thread

1. Myrtle always seemed so desolate and miserible. What qualities does she have that make her a ravenclaw? She was very touchy, helpful,couragus. "Wit beyond measure is mans greatest treasure." is her quote

2.What makes you a Ravenclaw?What have you done that would have made Ravenclaw house proud? I am smart, crazy out going and brave. i have moved 7 times during my life and I have made it to the 6th grade...in a public school.

3.What do you think was the root cause for the falling out between Rowena Ravenclaw and her daughter? Her daughter probably got sick of her mom getting all of the attention so she stole her mom's diadem.

4.Why do you think RR's daughter became a ghost? If you think regret or guilt is a reason, then why do you think RR her self didn't become one? The reason Ravenclaw's daughter became a ghost is because the Bloody Baroon was in love with her and when he propossed to her she turned him down and her killed her and himself.

5.Do you think they will keep the Gray Lady and Ravenclaw common room scenes in the movie or cut them out? If they keep then in, how true do you think they will be to the books? What are you most looking forward to? No, I don't think they will cut the scenes (sp?) out because they are important. I am looking forward to seeing everything!

6.Do you think JKR was moved by the movies to make the Grey Lady the Ravenclaw house ghost, or do you think that was her intentions all along and she had shared it with the movie producers? I think it was JKR's intention because uuhh....hello...she wrote the dang story! If it wasn't important I don't think she would have included it!

7. If you could bring one person from any other house over to Ravenclaw, who would it be and why? Hermione, because well she does have Ravenclaw, Hufflepuff and Gryffindor traits. And she is sooooo smart and spontanouse (sp?).

8. Roger Davies, captain of the Ravenclaw Quidditch team, was Fleur Delacour's escort to the Yule Ball. Of all the guys that she could have chosen from, why do you think she picked him? Because of his Ravenclaw qualities, his Quidditch skills/captaincy, pr something else? I think Fleur went out with Roger because of his Ravenclaw traits and his personality.

9. Which house(s) do you think we Ravenclaws are most compatible with and why? I think it would have to be Hufflepuff, because they are the mixed traits house; but honestly I do think we would get along well with Gryffindor.

10. You have been given the letter to Hogwarts and were just sorted into Ravenclaw House. In the short term, what do you want to do/accomplish (education, fun, mischief)? In the long run, what do you want to accomplish/be (career, NEWT's, and thier subjects, mischief)? You can just speak your mind or come up with something worthy of a Ravenclaw. I would have to go with Education and some fun and more than likely alittle bit of mischief for short term. And in long term I would have to get really high NEWT's because because I would like to be an Auror. I mean come on my name is Tonks! LOL!

11. Why does Luna not appear to have any friends in Ravenclaw when she is supposed to have the most in common with them? I think its because from Ravenclaw's point she is psychotic (sp?). She would be better in Hufflepuff. But I think she is awsome!

12. What else (besides intelligence and wise-ness) defines a Ravenclaw? I didn't see anything in the books unless I missed it somewhere. I guess that means I'm gonna have to read the books again. LOL!

13. Does murder automatically make a horcrux? Do you have to kill a person a certain way, or do you have to say a incantion or spell of some kind after the murder? I honestly haven't got a clue. Sorry!

14. Does anyone know where the four founders recieved thier education. As they themselves created Hogwarts, they didn't go there. But what about Beauxbatons and Durmstrang? Did RR get her education there? I don't know, but that is a very good question!

15. What do you think are the strengths and weaknesses of a Ravenclaw? How do you think Luna, or any of other Ravenclaw's, measure up to these? Strengths: good grades, wit, wisdom. Weaknesses: I really can't think of any!

16. How do you think Raveclaw compares to the other Houses (as far as thier stengths/weaknesses)? I would have to say no houses can compare to the other houses. Because they are all unique in thier own way.

17. In which book do you think Luna most showed her defining qualities that make her a Ravenclaw? Personally I would have to say OotP, because thats when we really started seeing her more.

18. Do you think Flitwick does or does not make a suitable Head of House for Ravenclaw? Why? I think that he does. Because he is smart beyond belief even though he hides it sometimes. And he is different from the other teachers because of his qualities he has and he is unique.

19. Are there any other teachers that you would think suit Ravenclaw house? I honestly haven't got a clue. He just fits!

20. Why do you think Ravenclaw was the only one to have a statue of herself in the common room? I feel that RR had a statue of herself to inspire future Ravenclaws.

21. Why do you think the ghost of Helena Ravenclaw ended up residing at Hogwarts after her death? I feel she built a strong bond with her mother and then they got into a fight.

22. Why did the Bloody Baraon stay at Hogwarts after he killed her, and then offed himself? I actually thought he killed himself the same day he killed HR, but if thats the case then he killed himself in the first place because of his love for her was so strong.

23. Just like Cho Chang, which characters don't seem to belong in thier house (well ravenclaw)? What traits did they value that put them in Ravenclaw? I'm sorry but I seriously don't know.

24. As Ravenclaws in our everyday lives, are you more, or less introspective than most others? I don't know what you guys are talking about. I mean I am a scarelt color. LOL!

25. Do Ravenclaws hangout with each other because Ravenclaws understand the way other Ravenclaws may think? Is that the reason Ravenclaws seem snooty when we're not? I would have to say NO on that because some people might have what it takes to be a Ravenclaw and some others might have that but a different personality.

26. As it's summer time, where do you think Ravenclaw would like to spend thier summer vaction? A place of historical interest perhaps? Or just spending time with thier family and friends? As a ravenclaw yourself, would you have any preferences? I would rather spend my summer vacation with my friends and family. I do enough studying thank you!

27. Had Luna ridden a thestral before that moment in OotP? I think she did. Because the way she rode it, very calm and the fact that she told everyone else how to get up on them.

28. Seeing as how Ravenclaw was the only founder to have a statue of herself in the common room and had a riddle knocker to gain entry, instead of the usual password the other houses use, do you thinks this speaks something of her character? Do you think she placed herself above the other founders by trying to be different? Or do you think it was just her intelligence that she was trying to rise above the repetitiveness of the others? I think that it was her trying to be different from the others. She is the only one who uses the riddle knocker to get into the Ravenclaw common room. And is the only one who has a statue of herself in the common room.

29. Do you think it was arrogance that had RR use the knocker instead of the password syste, thinking that no one but a Ravenclaw would know the answers to the riddles? Or do you think it was just for fun and learning? I think the riddle knocker was just for fun and learning.

30. Why do you think RR's item was the diadem? How does it symbolize the house or her? What does the diadem represent for us? Well ya know it is called the Diadem of Wisdom!

31. Why would she pick such a fancy head piece? I think it was because for she could share her beauty more with others.

32. Most of us have agreed that Ravenclaw was probably haughty and thought herself to be better than others. Why do you think she thought this way? I don't know at all! I am only 12 years old! LOL!
Crazedd Redneckk
Hey guys back from the beach trip with my youth group! But its good to be back

Most of us have agreed that Ravenclaw was probably haughty and thought herself to be better than others. Why do you think she thought that way?

Well to think of it I know people that are very intelligent and think of themselves as better then others. Me, as an example, am kind of like this. I look at myself and see that I am smarter then others and that I should be respected for that. I think that this is kind of what Ravenclaw thought. I mean we as Ravenclaws arent bratty we just are confident and very proud of our brains.

Andrew
bookworm_1918
Hey, all! My Internet was down..so I missed a lot. Welcome, tonks34772! Have fun talking about Ravenclaw!

Hey I got a question for you guys!!

Do you think that there are people who would NOT fit into Ravenclaw? I mean by that, do you think that (like the pie chart thing, for those of you who were discussin that) maybe someone could belng in Gryffindor, they could do well in Slytherin, or they culd possible fit in with Hufflepuffs, but not Ravenclaw? Do you think that's possible for a person?

Sorry if this is too confusing...
Just the Droobles
Do you think that there are people who would NOT fit into Ravenclaw?
Oh I definitely think that there are people who would have no Ravenclaw traits. Some people just lack wisdom. They may be book smart, but that may only earn them 1% Ravenclaw if they have no wisdom. I think that the same way a person like Neville can basically have zero Slytherin qualities, another person could have zero Ravenclaw qualities. I'm Crabbe or Goyle would be in the zero department when it comes to Ravenclaw. wink.gif
harrypotterlover1024
Do you think that there are people who would NOT fit into Ravenclaw?
Yes, I think people that would not fit in would be people who would not like to learn and/or try. Ravenclaws like to try and learn, and in my opinion, that is what makes them smart. Also, what is this pie chart thing you are talking about?
uzzzkata
Do you think that there are people who would NOT fit into Ravenclaw?

Just the Droobles, I agree with you,and the Crabbe and Goyle bit... tongue.gif
What I'd like to add is that people who never think before they act- truly instinctual people-, and especially people who aren't interested in anything but their own everyday world, also wouldn't fit well into Ravenclaw.
But that doesnt mean they're all dumb or can't learn. Their talents are just different.

And a warm welcome to tonks34772! happy.gif

Also... have you seen the announcement about the House Cup? I've just noticed! woot.gif It's right here.
So what about having Ravenclaw's name on it, huh? wink.gif
I say we try and just be our Ravenclaw selves during the following month! smile.gif (and maybe post more often biggrin.gif )
gissgon
Do you think that there are people who would NOT fit into Ravenclaw?

I agree with everything you guys have been saying. Crab and Goyle really wouldn't fit in with Ravenclaws. And as uzzzkata said, people who don't think before they act don't fit in,not because they aren't smart, but because of their actions biggrin.gif

sorry my answer is so short
padfootx3
Do you think that there are people who would NOT fit into Ravenclaw?
Oh, most definitely!! Some people, like myself try hard in school and do well, but lack a lot of common sense tongue.gif Others have a lot of common sense but don't do that well in school. Some people lack the common sense and do not try at all - those are the ones whom i think would not belong. Not all Ravenclaws are born wise- but they are willing to try and become smarter.

~Kate

p.s. check out dictionary.com's word of the day today wink.gif it has something to do especially with ravenclaws!!
bookworm_1918
That's true, Crabbe and Goyle would NOT fit...it's easier to not fit in Slytherin than Ravenclaw, isn't it? I don't know why I think that, it just seems like it would.
padfootx3
Yeah because evilness is something you choose and wisdom can either be a gift or you can try hard to attain it. So yeah i would agree its easier not to fit in slytherin.
bookworm_1918
Ah-ha! Someone agrees with me....OK I think my question is getting worn out...lets get something new on here...let me think.

Whiich HP characters fits the Ravenclaw description the best. (Which one has the most Ravenclaw qualities)

I'll wait to answer this', I'll see what you guys decide to do
harrypotterlover1024
Whiich HP characters fits the Ravenclaw description the best. (Which one has the most Ravenclaw qualities)
I think Luna fits the Ravenclaw description the best! biggrin.gif She may be really odd, but she is smart, observant, and open to learning new things. We know she is very open-minded, but is that a quality of Ravenclaws? I'd like to think it is, because Luna likes to explore to things and experiences.
forsaken_wolfess
Whiich HP characters fits the Ravenclaw description the best. (Which one has the most Ravenclaw qualities)

I'm going to go, like a lot of other people, with Luna. She is very smart (if you don't believe me, listen to her spewing all of the facts about Nargles, Waksparts, etc.) She's also very thorough, with spouting the inconvenient truths (mostly about Ron) and always being able to see the truth in things, like Harry's feelings in OotP and through his polyjuice potion in DH. She is also highly open minded (need I even give an example?) and likes wit. Sounds like a Ravenclaw to me.
uzzzkata
Whiich HP characters fits the Ravenclaw description the best. (Which one has the most Ravenclaw qualities)
I, too agree with what you two said, Luna is the most Ravenclawish Ravenclaw we know. She really sees through things and doesn't take anything for granted (that's why she can sense things well beyond the obvious - people's hidden feelings - as well as Wrackspurts tongue.gif ). She was the one who came up with solutions like the thestrals in OOTP, she can see the way out of a situation - I think a certain calmness is a Ravenclaw trait too. It's not a must, but it's useful.

The only thing we don't know about Luna is her grades. If she's learning in - well, more mundane things as well, then I think she's a Ravenclaw from every point of wiew.

But Flitwick isn't an unworthy Ravenclaw either... I guess we just know Luna better?
nicky potter
Yea I think that Luna is the most Ravenclaw worthy from the bunch lol She has what it takes to aatain wisdom the way it's meant to be. She has patience, and she sure does listen. She doesn't speak and she doesn't get irritated when one repeats themselves. She absorbs all informationa and uses to her advantage. I love Luna. She is so peaceful and funny. I wouldn't be suprise if she is the 'heir of Ravenclaw' laugh.gif
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