Ellie..I actually really LOVE this idea. I think it would be very fun and interesting to see where the conversation goes between the actors hehe. I don't know if VTM would allow it. Maybe you should ask a MOD and they'll let you know.

Where do you guys think that Dumbledore's christmas spirit came from? Did he perhaps feel guilty about not spending more holiday time with his family? Or could it be something deeper?

For some reason I don't think his Christmas spirit came from feeling guilty about his family. His dad was in prison his mom was to busy with his sister and Aberforth...well, they weren't very close.

I think Dumbledore's Christmas Spirit came from with in. Some people are jolly during the holidays and others are like Scrooge. Dumbledore has a Jolly personality year around but it's more predominate during the holidays. I think he just likes the idea of everyone being Merry and happy.

Students spend time with their family and the ones that don't spend it with the "Hogwarts Family" We all know Dumbledore loves Hogwarts and thinks of it as his home, so naturally the students would be like a kind of family for him. And seeing everyone happy at that time of year and everything decorated and a wonderful feast, would make anyone (except the scrooges in the world) have Christmas Spirit.

I hope that made sense LOL


Dawn

Hi Guys! Its great to see everybody again, I was suprised when I saw the thread with a bit of movement again- but it's good suprised!!

Ill just have a look at the last couple of questions, and then we can address the Christmas ideas!

Do you think the Dumbledore-Harry relationship is more Friendship, Father-son or Professor-student? Or do you think it's something else?
This is a difficult one, mainly because I believe that the relationship between the two has changed so much over the years. When Harry first came to Hogwarts, the relationship was that of a protector and his... protectee. Harry was young, alone, and discovering things about himself and a world he never knew existed. The threat from Voldemort was as minimal as it ever got in the books in Harry's first year (that Dumbledore knew of), so Dumbledore was there more to protect Harry's childhood, allow him to grow as he should.

As Harry grew older, the relationship became more like the relationship between a family. I wouldn't say father and son, more like a favourite grandfather and his favourite grandson. The love and admiration was there, but they needed eachother in very different ways. In OotP, the relationship seemed to change again. At the beginning, Dumbledore almost regained his role as a teacher, doing whatever he could to protect his student- even if it seemed hurtful in the short term. However, the pain that it caused Dumbledore to act in this way indicated all along that he was still the 'grandfather figure'. This was shown again after Sirius' . . . mysterious disappearance , when dumbledore was the ever patient and almost benign, yet eventual soothing presence.

It wasn't until HBP and DH when Dumbledore had to make the choice to fully involve Harry in the fight that the relationship really changed again. Harry, although still young, was taking full responsibility in the fight against Voldemort. He was acting as an adult would, and having to think as an adult would. More than this, he was doing it in such a way to retain his compassion and 'enthusiasm'. Dumbledore had to see Harry as more of an equal, because in truth, he was becoming more of an equal. The last change we see is at the very end of DH. In 'King's Cross', Dumbledore finally lets down his guard, and allows Harry to see him in all his weakness. Unlike in the cave in HBP, here it is out of choice. He no longer sees Harry as somebody he has to protect, or as a child he has to humour, but as an adult who is able to return the love and protection that Dumbledore gave. This is when the relationship between the pair is true and equal friendship.

So I guess. . . that was a very long winded way of saying the relationship changed a lot.

Where do you guys think that Dumbledore's christmas spirit came from? Did he perhaps feel guilty about not spending more holiday time with his family? Or could it be something deeper?

As Dawn said, Dumbleodore was a naturally jolly and merry person. He loved a good party and celebration, and no doubt he loved the atmosphere that Christmas inevitably brought wit hit. It makes me think, Christmas would be a wonderful time to spend at Hogwarts. I know there's the thing about being with family, but it's true, your classmates, friends, and teachers would be your family of sorts. For Dumbledore, the season was one that he could enjoy with his 'family', in a place that he loved, with plenty of wonderful celebrations taking place.
I really see Dumbledore as a winter and christmas person> when I picture him, I picture him in a snowy setting, or beside a roaring fire with cakes and biscuits. . . now I'm hungry!

Which leads me perfectly on to the Christmas ideas! Before we decide anything, let me just address this issue- scsmith478-


Hi scsmith478. I see your point, and whilst we're aware that Christmas isn't everybody's thing, the majority of us would really enjoy some activities still based on Dumbledore, but with a christmas, or at least seasonal theme. We can still have other topics running at the same time. I'm not christian at all myself, but for my family christmas is about being with family, having lots of lovely food, and generally having a good time. For others it has an entirely different meaning. If you don't want to take part in the christmas activities, thats fine- im sure there will still be other topics that uou can contribute to!

As for the ideas, so far we've had:
Christmas Questions
Poetry
Memoirs
FanFictions
Graphics
Analyses (I love doing this...)
An In-Character discussion (What a wonderful Idea!)
and lastly, Word association- always fun, and nice and simple to do

For the In-Character discussion, there's no reason why it wouldn't be allowed as long as we abide by the general posting rules, and the rule of the thread i.e. keep realted to Dumbledore. So, unless our allocated Dumbledore wanders off, we should be ok! If you want, I can do a little plan with a different thing every week or two(People will be busy so any shorter timespan may be unlikely. If we finish one idea we can always move onto another), starting asap, or we can just chose what we want when we want. Let me know, and we can develop some of these ideas, work out some guidelines to create some nice friendly competition, and work out how we'd do the discussion. Anyway, let me know and we can start whenever!

I better go . . . sleep and all Great to see everybody again!

Clara}~

Ps, DeSs, no problem, you are not a deserter... and will always deserve to be a Dumbledore-ette! we've all had a little case of business and distraction recently

About Harry-Dumbledore relationship, I agree with Clara.. It was more like father-son relation. Dumbledore cared about Harry more then any other student and always wanted to guide him properly in life matters, whether it be in facing Voldemort or the Mirror of Erised. He was concerned about Harry's upbringing and all. Thus, Dumbledore was just like a father to Harry. As for Harry, Harry always appreciated guidance from Dumbledore in any matter that scared him..

About, Christmas spirit of Dumbledore, I agree with Dawn and Clara.. Dumbledore was a jolly-good guy and his family tourbles won't have definately encouraged him to cheer up for the Christmas. He would find Christmas as some reason to be happy and away from the tensions of his and Harry's personal lifes. Moreover, as Dawn said, he would want the students, who were staying at Hogwarts during the vacations to enjoy themslves to the fullest. He was always concerened about his students and he loved Hogwarts so, he would try to make it a jolly place.

About, the Christmas party, I loved Eille's idea about the In-character discussion.. I would love to read and contribute to it.

Ok, so everybody disappeared. I know I've been awful to and I understand that we're all busy. I'm trying to work and type at the same time, and I've just succeeded in knocking everything of the table.... So, in the lead up to christmas if you have time to pop in, a bit of word association would be great alongside any discussions.
DeSs has done some wonderful fanfiction and a really lovely image, and i feel completely guilty for not yet having time to go over your fanfiction DeSs. If you want to post on WAW as it is, im sure people would love that. we can always make some alterations ASAP to put it on the sight Im sorry, I really dont seem to make sense at the moment.

If anybody pops in, please do start or comment on any conversation, I'll try to get back in here if I get the chance.

Clara}~

*peeps in* Um, hello there...

Do you think the Dumbledore-Harry relationship is more Friendship, Father-son or Professor-student? Or do you think it's something else?

I think it did change a lot. I don't think it ever was really a professor/student relationship, though. It was a lot closer to that. I think it started more as a father/son relationship, particularly in the first few years at Hogwarts, where Harry was trying to figure out what he was doing, and what was going on, and You-Know-Who wasn't such a big threat. And then it had to turn more into friendship, whether Dumbledore wanted it to or not, because Harry was growing up, and he was becoming more of an equal.

Also, that being in character discussion idea sounds ADORABLE.

Hem Hem

I think we need a new topic here. As it is almost Christmas or the Winter season, I thought we could do a couple of activities along those lines.

When you think of Dumbledore and Christmas what do you think his holiday practices are? Did he have any traditions left over from family living that he carries on privately or is he more of a modern wizard at Christmas?

Dumbledore is so tired of getting the same gifts at Christmas. Everyone always gives him books. What he really wants is... (fill in the blank)

Okay Clara, I hope this helps.

First of all, it has been aaaaaaaaaaages! I so missed discussing HP related issues/things. Anyway here I go...

When you think of Dumbledore and Christmas what do you think his holiday practices are? Did he have any traditions left over from family living that he carries on privately or is he more of a modern wizard at Christmas?

He probably reminsces a lot about his loss (Ariana and his parents) by looking at old pictures. I imagine him to light candles and drink hot chocolate or something. In a way I imagine him feeling really lonley and bit sad. Doesn't sound that good huh?

Dumbledore is so tired of getting the same gifts at Christmas. Everyone always gives him books. What he really wants is... (fill in the blank)

A pair of nice, warm, woolly socks. I couldn't resist, lol, isn't that what he says to Harry when he talks to him about the Mirror of Erised?

OK, in all seriousness...*thinks* He probably would want something unique. Something different. I mean, he liked Bertie Bott's Every Flavor Beans until he got that disgusting one. So that kind of shows a bit of his personality there, besides all the "serious intellectual scholarly" kind of things.

Maybe he would really like a big box of candy from Honeydukes. Or some things from Fred and George's joke shop! That would definitely not be expected!

When you think of Dumbledore and Christmas what do you think his holiday practices are? Did he have any traditions left over from family living that he carries on privately or is he more of a modern wizard at Christmas?

I agree with him drinking hot chocolate Gwenog. But Dumbledore is a jolly guy even when it's not Christmas. He seems to always be happy during the holidays. I don't think he would be lonely. Hogwarts is his home. And the teachers, faculty and students are his family. I think doing good for others is what makes Christmas such a magical holiday for Dumbledore. Even if it's something small, like decorating and having a special school feast. Seeing the family around him with smiles and having a good time warms Dumbledores' heart.

Dumbledore is so tired of getting the same gifts at Christmas. Everyone always gives him books. What he really wants is... (fill in the blank)

Like Hermione, Dumbledore would always love a good book. However, I think he would like a large box of lemon drops (I seem to remember him saying how much he enjoys that muggle candy). Or an interesting gadget. Dumbledore had all those unique things in his office that Harry smashed to bits. I think Dumbledore would also enjoy some kind of mind game. Like some sort of puzzle or intellectual board game...like chess.

Dawn

Dumbledore is so tired of getting the same gifts at Christmas. Everyone always gives him books. What he really wants is... (fill in the blank)

I think dumbledore would love Lemon drops aswell

Also i think he would love a pair of socks, he seems to always be talking about them whenever someone questions him about what he'd like or what he likes. Or maybe a huge box of Bertie Botts?

When you think of Dumbledore and Christmas what do you think his holiday practices are? Did he have any traditions left over from family living that he carries on privately or is he more of a modern wizard at Christmas?

I agree with you two as well (Hermione17 & Gwenog) About the hot chocolate. and Hermione17 i also agree with you about him always being jolly and such regardless of the season. Also i agree with your statement about him just being happy to give everyone a good time like with the decorations and the feasts around the holiday season. I think those things he does is what truly makes him happy around the Christmas season.

Dumbledore is so tired of getting the same gifts at Christmas. Everyone always gives him books. What he really wants is... (fill in the blank)


Professor Dumbledore would really enjoy something more quirky and fun. I believe that he would like a muggle present such as a sports car or even a 4x4 truck. Something that he could have fun in. I think that DD would build a dirt track aroung hogwarts were he could race around and get all muddy. I could see him slinging mud and getting Snape all muddy.

Aw, Clara, I'm so sorry you're busy! If you can't do it, don't worry, just post it as it is, and ... let people correct it on their heads! And perhaps you could change it after posted, once you have spare time

When you think of Dumbledore and Christmas what do you think his holiday practices are? Did he have any traditions left over from family living that he carries on privately or is he more of a modern wizard at Christmas?

Well, besides enjoying the Christmas dinner with the students, something I think he really likes to do, I think he could go round to Hog's Head and say hello to his brother, now they could held a cordial relationship, and then... yes, the mug of hot cocoa seems promising and comforting, but I don't think he'd be too eager to remind the bitter moments of his life. But he could sit in front of his window, with the fire roaring in the fireplace, and listen to some chamber music on an old wizarding radio, with Fawkes at his side...

Dumbledore is so tired of getting the same gifts at Christmas. Everyone always gives him books. What he really wants is... (fill in the blank)



Great idea! And by the way, happy birthday to you! Hope you have a great one with your family and friends

I agree in that he would like perhaps a big box of candies or crackers, something funny. But... I don't know, I can't think of anything else.

By the way, I wanted to share with everybody a quote I read on a book titled "Congratulations for your Graduation", a present to me for my graduation, of course. It's by an Argentinian author, Ernesto Sabato, and it goes the following (it's translated by me):



It reminded me strongly to Albus. I looked up for one of my fav quotes, the time he said (to Harry):



And that's what brings me back to Sabato's quote. It's not to always "score" succesfully what makes us genius or wise, but to fail and to keep growing, to learn and to carry on. It's true, his mistakes were huger because he was cleverer. What does that mean? For me, that the fact a person is clever perhaps is due to their cold head. From that, I can quote another beautiful, if I may say so, thing he said:



Keeping a cold head, above all when it's with regards to other person, Harry, made him forget somehow what to be young is, made him forget that the person he was acting upon was young and so he would act rather different than him. But also, from his mistakes, he went slowly learning, and that's why Harry - and so I - forgave him.

I don't know if I made myself clear enough on that thread of random inspiration above, but I just wanted to say that. If anybody feels like discussing and contributing to my idea, feel free, I'm eager to see the replies!

Dumbledore is so tired of getting the same gifts at Christmas. Everyone always gives him books. What he really wants is... (fill in the blank)

Loads of old fashioned muggle sweets, like candy canes (it is christmas) the massive lolly pops you can get, the candy sticks (like candy canes but a stick) and hard boiled sweets. Although I really like the idea of him getting a 4x4. I can imagine him in one, lol.

Lottie
xxx

Firstly, Merry Christmas Everybody!!

When you think of Dumbledore and Christmas what do you think his holiday practices are? Did he have any traditions left over from family living that he carries on privately or is he more of a modern wizard at Christmas?

He was at peace at Hogwarts, so on Christmas he would have fun with his only remaining family, Hogwarts students and teachers. He would enjoy himself to the fullest and also would take care that all his students are enjoying the festival too..I don't think the Dumbledores had any traditiond, even if they had, I don't think Albus followed them on Christmas.

Dumbledore is so tired of getting the same gifts at Christmas. Everyone always gives him books. What he really wants is I agree with lemon drops..

-Imagine we are entering the year after the downfall of Voldemort. What would Dumbledore wish for in the coming year? not just for Harry and the other surviving members of the order, but for the entire wizarding and muggle populations. Would he have any particularly special wishes??

He would have wished for the permenant distnacning of wizards from the dementors, to never ally with thtem again. Also, to honour all those who died fighting Voldemort and his dark cause. Also, I think he would have sought reforms for other creatures such as goblins, centaurs and mer-people.

-Some empathy required here- What do you think Dumbledore saw as his best and worst traits? He often saw other people for what they were, but he had some trouble when it came to himself, his vision was clouded with self doubt. (remember what did HE see as his best and worst traits)

His best trait was definately his confidence in the greatest force in the world and his ability to recognise it as such - love. Also, he always believed the best in people.
His worst trait was also his downfall - temptation. He was tempted to try on Gaunt's ring and this weakened him and would have killed him had Snape not done it first. Also, he confessed, himself, a weakness for the Hallows.

-Lastly, What do you think Dumbledore believed his worst mistake/discision and best action/descision was? Try and think about it a bit, dont just say the death of his sister.. Think, was it before then, or in the many, many years afterwards? (once again, remember, what did HE think)

His worst mistake was in OotP. Distancing himself from Harry. He knew of Snape's hatred of Harry and must have known there was a risk Harry would not learn occlumency as well as he should or that Snape might somehow put these lessons into jeopardy. This, while culminating in the exposure of Voldemort to those who doubted Harry and Dumbledore, resulted in Sirius's death, taking the last person from Harry who he could count as family.

Hey everybody! I hope everyone had a great Christmas and it’s nice to see people posting on Christmas Eve and Boxing Day I'm sorry that the thread has been somewhat lacking encouragement on my part recently, I've been unbelievably busy, and will be for the foreseeable future I should be in bed now, as I'm getting up in few hours, but I've left the thread for a ridiculously long time now, so I'm determined to get everything done!!

Hi harryjpotter, have we seen you in here before? If not, Welcome! If yes, welcome back- that goes for everybody else too! Ohh dear, I feel this may be one of those stupidly long waffling posts of mine!

To the Christmas-themed questions (thanks Amanda once again):
When you think of Dumbledore and Christmas what do you think his holiday practices are? Did he have any traditions left over from family living that he carries on privately or is he more of a modern wizard at Christmas?
Something that was always important to Dumbledore was tradition, and the sentimental value of actions. Nevertheless, he also saw it as vitally important to 'keep up with the times'. There would have been things that he had done as a child that he liked to continue doing, because Christmas was a time for him to remember. I can see the Dumbledore family sitting around the Christmas tree, making their own decorations with magic, and by hand. I can see him carrying on this family tradition, sitting by the fire decorating the tree in his office and chambers. He'd also go on lots of walks. Dumbledore loved the outdoors, and at Christmas when everything was blanketed in snow, with everything wonderful and still, I can picture him walking through the grounds- not thinking, just enjoying his surroundings.

He'd also be the modern- and very sociable, Christmas figure. No doubt he is the life and soul of the Hogwarts Christmas parties- I can just see him waltzing around the Great Hall and the Yule Ball. He'd sing, buy presents, play (friendly) tricks on people, and generally be Christmassy. I’m sure if he was left without Professor McGonagall’s supervision, every inch on Hogwarts would be covered in decoration. Dumbledore loved to celebrate, and loved to see his students and staff enjoying themselves. What better time for it than Christmas??

Dumbledore is so tired of getting the same gifts at Christmas. Everyone always gives him books. What he really wants is... A Christmas 'hamper' of jokes, tricks, magical fireworks, all kinds of mischief enabling items, and some really interesting trinkets to keep him nice and occupied!!

In fact, I like this idea, so here is Dumbledore's Dream Christmas Hamper!!



That was fun If anybody else wants to do Dumbledore’s Christmas hamper that would be great!! Create a hamper for Dumbledore, you can have a sentimental family theme such as a photo etc, or a food them with your own magical foods, or a hamper full of things to help fight voldemort, or add to my 'mischief hamper'! Have any theme you can think of Be creative!!

DeSs, I’m going to post your piece as it is now, and hopefully I can look at it again tomorrow to make any changes, and then swap that for the version I'll post now! I hope everybody enjoys it - (mods, I know this technically shouldn't be posted here, but it is a treat for the WAW members )



Snowflakes were heaping up out of the windows sill early that morning when Albus Dumbledore approached to peer out, sleeping bonnet on one hand and tooth brush on the other.
‘See, Fawkes? We’re lucky of that snow hasn’t found out there is a war going on. We still can enjoy a white Christmas,’ said the Headmaster, stroking fondly the phoenix’s head walking past. At the touch, the loyal creature closed softly its eyes and let out an harmonious note.
The whole castle gave off a Christmas-ty atmosphere, a warm feeling of home, of comfort, even when there were only a few people to appreciate it. Professor McGonagall had came to his office the previous day before holidays, like every year, to hand him the list of students who were staying at Hogwarts: not a lonely pupil had chosen the school to spend the Christmas holiday this time. He couldn’t blame them: despite Hogwarts was still on of the safest buildings in Great Britain, it was comprehensible that families wanted to remain together, to keep its members close. However, the teachers Heads of House and a few others were staying, not only for the sake of the school, but also to spend Christmas between colleagues.
Albus arrived to the Great Hall for lunch, humming the Hogwarts song, and gave a wide smile at the delicious and stronger smell that struck his crooked nose as soon as he had left his office.
‘I looks like only us the eldest have remained, guardians of Hogwarts,’ commented Albus in a genial voice, taking his usual seat at the middle of the long table destined to the staff.
‘We will always remain guardians of Hogwarts, Albus, as long as our hands can hold wands,’ greeted him Professor McGonagall, fervently.
‘We will, and, as it’s always been, the youth, the next generation, will leave us alone,’ pointed Horace Slughorn, shaking his head and his walrus-like moustache along.
‘My dear Horace, I see different, and you might let me disagree. The fact that any student was forced to spent their holiday here is a motive of celebration, a beam of hope in this times,’ Albus lifted his goblet in a brief toast, ‘It means that the wizarding community, finally ─ in spite of, I’m afraid, it’s too late to prevent by now ─ has become aware of that Lord Voldemort ─’ he made a pause against his will when Slughorn, Sprout and Flitwick shrieked in protest, and McGonagall and Hagrid looked solemn but shocked (Snape looked stiff) ‘─ is back, and that the war is here; and it means that every children now has got a family or somebody who cares for them and won’t leave them here knowing that life is so short.’
Severus, at this point, took a good sip of wine and avoided looking to Dumbledore.
Pomona Sprout cleared her throat to break the silence after the Headmaster’s words, and exclaimed, ‘Well said, Albus, well said. I agree, and I’m glad of that all the students got back home this Christmas.’
‘And you’re right about that life is too brief, Albus,’ conceded Horace theatrically. ‘One can’t waste his life, one doesn’t have got to go in a gentle fashion to Death’s arms …’
‘Don’t be so sure, Horace,’ Albus tilted his head towards him kindly, ‘don’t be so sure. If one can walk arm in arm with Death, then one could say he will live forever. There wasn’t murder, there wasn’t murdered; just the dignity to say “I’ve come to here”.’
Severus left fork and knife and, with an undercover, resentful look to Dumbledore, he set out to the dungeons without a word.

His black cloak sweeping the snow that lay on the merry road, Albus held up a hand to the passers-by who recognized him.
‘Professor Dumbledore, how do you?’
‘A surprise, Albus, taking a Christmas stroll?’
‘Professor, you’ll have to see how the mistletoe has grown!’
The old man had a bright smile and a reply for everybody. Most of them were old inhabitants of the village who had studied in Hogwarts and built their homes in Hogsmeade, and they had gained the Headmaster’s friendship.
However, he directed his steps towards the end of a side road.
He pushed open the screeching door and came into the gloomy, dusty bar.
‘Hey, hey, I’m closing ─’ prevented him the grumpy voice of the bartender, whose corner of his mouth twisted when, turning round, he caught sight of Albus. ‘It’s you.’
‘Good evening, Abby,’ grinned Albus. ‘You aren’t going to tempt many customers to stay if you provide them with such a welcome in Christmas Eve, I’ve told you.’
‘Bah,’ growled Aberforth, pointing his wand over Albus’ head to lock the door, then making his way up through a narrow wooden staircase behind the counter. ‘I should have guessed it was you anyway, you’re the only one who could come at this late humming “Rudolph, the red-nosed reindeer.’
Albus followed his brother upstairs, where the last one lit a roaring fire in the grate.
‘By the way, now you’re here,’ Aberforth addressed to him, ‘will you tell me what’s this for? That scum of Dung sold it to me, but he has got not a bleeding idea of what’s this for.’
Albus handed out a hand to take the square-shaped mirror Aberfoth was holding.
‘I’d thank you if you don’t swear, Abby,’ said Albus, but Aberforth ignored him. ‘This is a two-way mirror. And if Mundungus had it, then it only can mean that he snatched it from Grimmauld Place. It was Sirius’. And the missing one … Harry has got it, I’m sure.’
‘So, what I’m gonna do with it?’ grunted Aberforth, having a mouthful of goat milk cheese. ‘Do you want it?’
‘No, no. I won’t need it in the future. But … will you do me a favour?’ asked Albus, setting the little mirror on the mantelpiece, under a big portrait of a sweet-looking girl.
Aberforth shrugged.
‘I always do, in the end.’
‘Will you keep an eye on Harry Potter when I’m not here?’
Aberforth gulped and looked sceptically to his eldest brother.
‘Where’re you going now, eh?’
‘Not now … but soon. I will be going. Just going. And I need your promise to care for Harry,’ told him Albus, looking serious. ‘I think you might have heard about the rumours of that he is The Chosen One. You know quite well he has beaten the Dark Lord. You knew his parents. We haven’t got to protect him, but we have got to be there to give him a little push when … let’s say, we he call for us.’
Aberforth was staring at him, as though he wasn’t getting the full meaning of it.
‘I will keep an eye on him, then, because I like that boy. Now, talking serious, Albus, where the hell are you running now? Because if the Ministry finally makes up its mind and comes to questioning me, I’ll send them to ─’
‘Don’t mind about that. I am sure of that, if you have to, you will be perfectly able to get yourself out the Ministry’s lens,’ retorted Albus, looking tired. ‘What I am meaning, is that I am not the same as before. I feel weaker, Abby, and I am afraid my powers have diminished greatly.’
‘Don’t say rubbish, you think you’re gonna die, don’t you?’ snarled Aberforth in exasperation, pacing up and down the room. ‘Don’t worry, you aren’t gonna die soon but you will remain here with us to make everything more complicated of what it already is.’
Albus looked at him in sadness.
‘Abby … When am I going to earn your full forgiveness?’
‘Forge’ about this, you’ve got it,’ waved him down Aberforth, trying to avoid the matter.
‘No. No. I know you never forgave me from heart. But you are my only family now. I don’t want to go knowing that you still save hatred in your soul towards the reckless boy I used to be.’
Aberforth closed his eyes for a moment, taking off his dirty glasses. When he opened, he didn’t looked at Albus but to his sister, smiling from the portrait hanging above the fireplace. The ancient clock next to it struck midnight.
‘Merry Christmas, Albus.’

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Thanks for that, DeSs! And here is another wonderful present for the WAW members, created by DeSs Happy Christmas!!

Please let DeSs know your appreciation, she's worked hard to create these lovely things for us, thank you!


Once again, I hope everybody had a great Christmas, sorry if I rambled!

Clara}~

New to The Wise and Wonderful, do you think I could join?

Dumbledore is so tired of getting the same gifts at Christmas. Everyone always gives him books. What he really wants is... (fill in the blank).

A big stuffed teddy bear. To hold when he needs it and help him at his worst.
He is kind of like a big teddy bear himself. He is nice and squishy and you can tell almost anything to him without worrying what he will think of you.

Hey Nicky! Of course you can join, we love new members, to help gives us a bit of activity (hint hint everybody)

Here's an outline of the topics we've got going at the moment:

When you think of Dumbledore and Christmas what do you think his holiday practices are? Did he have any traditions left over from family living that he carries on privately or is he more of a modern wizard at Christmas?

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Dumbledore is so tired of getting the same gifts at Christmas. Everyone always gives him books. What he really wants is...

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Create a hamper for Dumbledore, you can have a sentimental family theme such as a photo etc, or a food them with your own magical foods, or a hamper full of things to help fight voldemort, or add to my 'mischief hamper'! Have any theme you can think of Be creative!!

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and a new one- Nicky's post got me thinking, so- If Dumbledore was a christmas present, what would he be? Nicky said he was like a big teddy bear, so what do you think he was like? Just a bit of fun really

Happy New Year!

Clara}~

When you think of Dumbledore and Christmas what do you think his holiday practices are? Did he have any traditions left over from family living that he carries on privately or is he more of a modern wizard at Christmas? I think his Christmas traditions were those we saw at Hogwarts - decorate the place, wherever it is, as beautifully as possible, have an extravegant Christmas dinner, pull crackers and wear the funny hats that come out of them. Also, I think he likes to celebrate with his family but since Aberforth is his last relative and isn't all that sociable, I think Dumbledore sees the staff and students as family somewhat. I think he also likes snow

Dumbledore is so tired of getting the same gifts at Christmas. Everyone always gives him books. What he really wants is... A nice new pair of socks! Ok so we know that isn't really what he saw in the mirror of Erised but maybe he was telling the truth about the sock part. I can't really see Dumbledore wanting anything since he could probably get everything he wanted in a second. Unless it was perhaps something rare and interesting like a new invention.

Create a hamper for Dumbledore. It would contain artefacts from his family, for example, perhaps his father's favourite book, his mother's favourite cushion, Aberforth's favourite toy, Ariana's favourite hair ribbon. It would also contain pictures of his family and of the Order of the Phoenix, of Harry whom he cared greatly about, even so much as to love him.

If Dumbledore was a christmas present, what would he be? He would be something rare and unique, like one of his own inventions, something like the Deluminator perhaps. Something that promotes love and peace and happiness. The Deluminator was like this in that it helped Ron to find the other two again - it promoted the bonds of friendship and love between the trio, something Dumbledore values above everything - love, friendship, truth, peace, happiness and good. I think that's what Dumbledore would want to be.



I hope no one minds if I throw in a new question:

How did Dumbledore see Harry: as a student, a sign of hope or even as the son or grandson he never had?

How did Dumbledore see Harry: as a student, a sign of hope or even as the son or grandson he never had?

Wow...I think Dumbledore loved Harry so much as to say Harry would be the son/grandson he never had. Their relationship is so close, I truly believe that Dumbledore thought of Harry as kin. They had such a tight family bond, even though Dumbledore didn't always tell Harry everything. What parent does? Kids have to learn on their own a bit too and Dumbledore set those wheels in motion and expected Harry to rise to the occasion. Which he did. Harry had no real family and neither did Dumbledore, so they both filled the void with each other.

I think Dumbledore saw Harry as a sign of hope as well. Hope that came in the form of his best friend, most loyal pupil and the one person he loved like family. Dumbledore heard the prophecy first hand and knew that Harry was the hope for the wizarding world. He nurtured Harry and set him on the right paths even though Harry was confused half the time.LOL

Dawn

That was wonderfully written Hermione! Your bit there about filling the void in each other particularly makes sense. He did indeed act like a parent to Harry, nurturing him and confiding in him that which he thought would not distress him. The prophecy is proof of this. Dumbledore explains to Harry why he did not tell him sooner. Because he thought Harry too young at 11. Because Harry had just emerged euphoric in his defeat of Riddle and the Basilisk at 12. Because Harry had discovered some very painful truths about his family and nearly lost thte last person he could count as family at 13. And because he witnessed the return of Voldemort and went through a terrible ordeal in the graveyard, witnessing a friend die at 14. Which loving parent would want to throw the responsibility of saving the world, not just wizards but muggles too, from the most evil force ever known to wizardkind?

Dumbledore did indeed act more like a parent than merely a concerned teacher.

How did Dumbledore see Harry: as a student, a sign of hope or even as the son or grandson he never had?

I think he saw Harry, at first as a ray of hope.. He knew from the beginning that Harry would be the one who might put an end to Voldemort. But, as Harry entered Hogwarts and as Dumbledore came to know him, he saw Harry as a son, because Dumbledore now cared more for Harry and kept a close eye on him. He was always desperate to guide Harry in the correct direction, even in the cases which were not linked to Voldemort. Thus, he wanted not only to make Harry ready to fight Voldemort but also to fight the wrong.. Thus, in the end, Dumbledore saw him as a son, for whom he cared a lot..

Holy crow! It has been forever since I have been in here. I think it had something to do with the fact that the 12 days of Snapemas and Snapeweek were almost back to back and kept me very busy. But I am here now...

How did Dumbledore see Harry: as a student, a sign of hope or even as the son or grandson he never had?
I think Dumbledore saw Harry as the Chosen One. He was the only one who knew from day one that it was Harry and would only be Harry who could defeat the Dark Lord. Thus, the way Dumbledore viewed, protected, and taught Harry was with that single purpose in mind. He knew he had to keep Harry safe and protected while he was growing up because only Harry was going to be able to defeat Voldemort.
Dumbledore said throughout the series, I think in OOTP, that he made a huge mistake because he kept secrets from Harry because he began to care for his happiness. He didn't want to be the messanger who crushed Harry's spirit by telling him either Voldemort or he, Harry would die at the hand of the other. Once DD got over this and put his eyes back on the end result, he confided what he knew and even suspected into Harry, thus pointing him on the path that would take him to that final fight with Voldemort. I believe it Dumbledore hadn't seen Harry as the "savior" of the wizarding world, he would have treated him like any other student.

Oh, I'm so sorry, I haven't been in here for EVER, I completely deserted you . Anyway, I'm back now, so...

How did Dumbledore see Harry: as a student, a sign of hope or even as the son or grandson he never had?

A sign of hope first and foremostly, a student secondly.

Harry was definitely a sign of hope, Dumbledore could see that, and there was the additional fact that he was the only one who could ever defeat Voldemort. However, particularly in sixth year, I think the student-teacher relationship grew as they took private lessons together. I don't think he ever saw him as a son, but rather esteemed him highly as Lily and James's son.

Yeah, I know it's short and pathetic, but I'm pretty braindead today.

Ellie
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I too have not visited WAW in soo long. I'm so sorry for being absent for so much discussion.

How did Dumbledore see Harry: as a student, a sign of hope or even as the son or grandson he never had?

He definitely saw Harry as a sign of hope. In fact he admitted to Severus that he was bringing up Harry with the final purpose of facing and hopefully defeating LV. Severus, was disgusted by it (which was pretty cool seeing him show brief compassion for Harry).

He also saw him as a son/grandson. After Sirius passed, in the discussion with Harry in his office, he admitted that he placed Harry's own personal well being and emotional well being before the cause against LV.

And he also saw/treated him as a student. Teaching him not only pieces of magical knowledge, but the knowledge to mature Harry and allow him to come to grips with his fate with LV.


-Nick
HJP

ok, new question:

Why is Dumbledore so attatched to phoenixes? Any theories about how he came by Fawkes?

Dumbeldore's patronus is a phoenix. He owns a phoenix. He loves them. But why?
Did he go off on some adventure and happen across Fawkes who happened to be in a tight spot and Dumbledore saved him which is why Fawkes is so loyal to Dumbledore?

Why is Dumbledore so attatched to phoenixes? Any theories about how he came by Fawkes?

I think the reason he likes phoenixes so much is because he sees himself in them. The phoenix (as far as I can remember, so feel free to correct me) is an incredibly powerful and magical bird, and yet it seems to be quite willing to use it's great powers to aid mankind. Do you see how this could be linked to DD? He's a very potent wizard, and yet he is content to stay in a humble position (I know he says a little bit on this subject in DH, but still, it's a little odd). As for how he aquired Fawkes, I think he perhaps befriended him as a young man and the pair have grown up together. How they met, exactly, I'm not sure, but there seems to be more than just pet/owner stuff going on... more comrade/comrade, if you get my meaning. They seem to have been through a lot together.

Ellie
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Why is Dumbledore so attatched to phoenixes? Any theories about how he came by Fawkes?

I agree with ellie. Dumbledore can see so much of himself in pheonixes that he has become attached to them. He's powerful, clever and can take a lot onto his shoulders, like the way pheonixes can carry heavy loads. i think he came by Fawkes when he met Grindelwald, and he's had him ever since.

Lottie
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I reckon Dumbledore prizes the qualities in phoenixes for example loyalty.
It seems to me that loyalty has played a big part in the series in relation to Dumbledore, Harry defending him in front of Scrimgeour and Riddle for example.

Perhaps when he learned the patronus charm he was so taken with its phoenix form that he sought one as a pet.

I just realized it has been forever since I've been in here and missed a lot of great discussion on the great Dumbledore. But I'm back with new and fresh energy. To the questions:

How did Dumbledore see Harry: as a student, a sign of hope or even as the son or grandson he never had?

Firstly, I think he saw him as a sign of hope, the shining light that would lead them out of the darkness. As someone said earlier, he did hear the prophecy himself. So of cause Harry was a hope.

Secondly, Harry became his student. Of cause there were special circumstances, but he foremostly saw Harry as a student (with a hope tied to him).

And then, Dumbledore started to care for Harry as kin. But he acted like a grandfather, teaching him the important stuff, and their conversations are very grandfatherly (I think).

I know it wasn't much, however - next one's up

Why is Dumbledore so attatched to phoenixes? Any theories about how he came by Fawkes?

I think Dumbledore was very fascinated by phoenixes. He was fascinated by their immortality - they live, die and live agaín as new, and he wanted so once too (the hallows). But phoenixes also symbolise, that it is important to live a full life - you need to be born and you must die. And as Ellie said, he is very much like a phoenix - I agree with Ellie.

- Louise

Hello everyone,

i Know it's been ages since i last poked my head in here.

Have anyone of you read The Tales of Beedle the Bard, what can you say on the commentaries made by Dumbledore?

I really hope that I can come back soon, with all the work and everything that came me apart from here.

Hey everyone
I know its been ages, I've been super busy so this is only a flying visit!

Nice question harryjpotter-
Why is Dumbledore so attatched to phoenixes? Any theories about how he came by Fawkes?
I see Fawkes as more than an animal or a pet. Fawkes was intelligent, with emotion and thought. He was, or is, agesless, and has wisdom gained from centuries of existance. For Dumbledore, he was a comforting presence and a companion. Although Fawkes couldn't converse with Dumbledore as a human would do, he still showed understanding, and from the few glimpses we have of Dumbledore and Fawkes, I think Dumbledore depended on Fawkes' company.
As to how he came by Fawkes, I would say it was probably more the other way round, and it was Fawkes who found Dumbledore. I think it would have been before Dumbledore became a teacher at hogwarts, when he was unsure of the path that his life would follow. Dumbledore lived for so long with a huge amount of guilt and confusion, and I think it likely that he put off really living his life. I think Fawkes turned up one day when Dumbledore was at his lowest, and over time brought out the good qualities in Dumbledore's personality and reminded him of Hogwarts. Whenever it was, I dont think that Dumbledore found Fawkes, more the other way round.

Annesches- I bought the collectors edition, and it's wonderful, but I'm so worried about damaging the book that i haven't actually read it properly yet. I'm planning to get the regular version asap so I can read it!

Ill be back soon with a few topics, if anyone has any questions, go ahead! keep posting

Clara}~

annesches, interesting point.

The commentary made by Dumbledore in Beedle really brings out that which Jo has championed all the way through the series - that we are all the same no matter magic or muggle and that love always wins over evil.
Dumbledore's commentary really made the book shine for me. It linked the stories to a time at Hogwarts when all was calm and good. It was funny and revealed some interesting facts about Hogwarts. It also revealed a lot about Dumbledore such as the cause of his conflict with Lucius Malfoy.

I LOVE the commentary on the Tales of Beedle the Bard! Incredibly witty and yet deep and revealing. I just couldn't stop laughing at some bits! I've already read it about a million times.


Couldn't go without putting that one...

Ellie
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Alastorlet_and_Proud! haha great post! That has to be one of my favourite quotes too^^ I just don't understand the attitudes of people like Lucius Malfoy though, how can someone see another living being as something lesser, something inferior???

Geez, I haven't been here for so long! Sorry, that's me. Oh, Clara, sorry I know you're busy but is there any Dumbledore-ette this month?
Ok, I missed far so many posts but can't go on without answering one of the Christmas questions:

If Dumbledore was a christmas present, what would he be?

For me, he could be:
A crystal ball: Divination is one of the most complex, vague and unrelieable wizarding arts, it's very subjetive and you have to interpret what you see. Dumbledore mostly had guessed about the things he researched, but as he said, his guessed tended to be right. That seems not to make sense at all, haha But really, it's the way I see it.
And I'll think about what else, but that's for now.

How did Dumbledore see Harry: as a student, a sign of hope or even as the son or grandson he never had?
Um... huge question. As I've expressed before, the first feeling I can imagine he felt must have been responsability and the need of take care of this child, alone in the world, his family torned for Death, and it was his sister over again. As he went knowing Harry deeper, I think he must have seen it like a charming student, eager to learn, as he expressed to Severus. In 5th year, I think it was the main connection. Harry felt the need of Dumbledore, for he was so cold with him all the year, even when before they hadn't been that close, Harry felt something weird, and once Dumbledore explained it all, and when he came back for him the next year, I think Dumbledore already saw him not only as a sign of hope, but also as a special, brave boy who had gone through a lot of misfortunes, more than he had, and -- well, I think he really loved him (in a healthy way )

Hey guys, did you like my Christmas presents?

I love the new posters; I might do some avatars!! Yay.

Sorry, I'm getting way ahead here but here's yet another new question. Again.

Did Dumbledore ever find out who killed Ariana - could the Mirror of Erised have been able to show him this or did his wish that he wasn't to blame cloud his longing to make the mirror show Grindlewald killing Ariana?

Sorry if teh wording is awkward. Basically what I wonder is if the Mirror of Erised showed Dumbledore the truth or merely what he wanted to see.

Did Dumbledore ever find out who killed Ariana - could the Mirror of Erised have been able to show him this or did his wish that he wasn't to blame cloud his longing to make the mirror show Grindlewald killing Ariana?

I don't think he ever found out, and that's why it still haunts him. Th uncertainty makes it worse. However, I don't think he would want to know. I know if it were me I'd be happier not knowing. Also, he wouldn't want to reopen old wounds. And, furthermore, I don't know if the Mirror of Erised can show that kind of truth. It might do, but I don't think it's purpose includes giving information about past events, otherwise it would be incredibly valuable, perticularly in court.

Ellie
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Hey guys,

DeSs-

I havent planned for one, and I don't think I did one for December either did I? The thing is, I'm really not able to choose a Dumbledore-ette if the thread is moving so slowly, purely because there isnt much to place the award on. I don't want it to just become something that happens every month and isn't particularly special. I know people are busy- as am I, and I'm not having a go at people- of course not. Its just, I cant really pick people for an award if there are only a few posts a month. When the thread picks up again, or if there is somebody who really stands out, I'll award again.
A few months ago I did ask people if they wanted to nominate people for the award via a pm to me, but nobody bothered so that idea sank. I still think it would be a good idea though, seen as I can't be around as much as I'd like, and this way people get a say.

And DeSs, I loved the christmas presents!! I'm sure if there's anybody else who was around at christmas they'd agree with me!

Interesting question harryjpotter-
Did Dumbledore ever find out who killed Ariana?
I agree that he never 'found out' as it were, but I think that for him he killed Ariana whether or not the curse flew from his wand. He got involved with Grindlewald, and he let it affect his relationship with his family. He never knew exactly who killed her, but I don't think that it was the uncertainty that was the worse, in fact the opposite. It was the guilt of knowing that whoever's curse killed Ariana, it was him that Killed her.
So.. Would it make a difference to Dumbledore if he found out whose curse killed Ariana?
I'm interested to see your thoughts on this!

Keep posting guys!!

Clara}~

Oh my gosh! Clara, guys, Dumbledore, I am so sorry for not posting for so long. I guess I have been sort of out of it lately with school and everything else that has been going on around me.

Would it make a difference to Dumbledore if he found out whose curse killed Ariana?

I agree with everyone that he never found out. And I, personally, don't think that he really cared to. Would it make a difference? I don't think it would have made any difference to him because if he had found out that it had been him, it would be so much worse than not knowing. And if it had indeed been Gridelwald as many suspect I don't see Albus as the kind of person who would seek revenge on someone. I mean if you think about it, just look at what considering himself evil did to him. He didn't want to be bad, he just agreed with the fact that it didn't matter what kind of person you were or wanted to be...temptation was always there.

It's like he says at the end of his commentary on The Tale of the Three Brothers in The Tales of Beedle the Bard: "Clever as I am, I remain just as big a fool as everyone else."

I can't wait to see what everybody else thinks. And again sorry for keeping away so long.

-Karina

Would it make a difference to Dumbledore if he found out whose curse killed Ariana?

I think, not really. I agree with clara, that, whether the curse was DD's or not, he was stil to blame for not paying more attention to his siblings.

Short, I know, but, hopefully, to the point.

Ellie
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Hey guys

Wow we havent moved in a long time... I've been really busy and I take it everybody else has too... I only have a few minutes, but here's a new topic/question if anybody has the time for a quick, or even better, not so quick, answer

I know we've sort of discussed similar points before... but What kind of Minister of Magic would Dumbledore have made? Obviously he was a wonderful leader and full of wisdom, but would his empathetic nature have got in the way? likewise, would his playfulness been 'squeezed' out by the position... or would he have reinvented what it meant to be Minister?

Let's hear your thoughts!!!!

Clara}~

Ow, yes, Clara, and I'm so sorry because I'm part as well of the non-contributing people

But since you posted an interesting question, I feel like answering first!

What kind of Minister of Magic would Dumbledore have made?

I think he'd completely change the concept of Ministry, as he change the concept of Headmaster; I mean, it's beyond the way he might have done it, but he isn't a tyran, he realised he doesn't like power because he know he might not handle it, he believes in everything; I think he'd be a really strong Minister, but it'd be ... actually, it'd be just as though he was still Headmaster, teaching a community of wizards.

Did Dumbledore ever find out who killed Ariana? - could the Mirror of Erised have been able to show him this or did his wish that he wasn't to blame cloud his longing to make the mirror show Grindlewald killing Ariana?

Um... hard question. There's a huge chance that it was Grindelwald, and that's why he didn't even want to face him. If it had been Aberforth, for example, I doubt Albus could handle it, or something. And if it was him ... well, see below because I'm not quite sure.
I don't think to discoer who murdered his little sister was such a powerful desire as to be seen in the Mirror of Erised. It shows the deepest desires of your heart, and wishes are generally happy things -- please, don't mix happy with good, depsite happy isn't the accurate term, either.

Would it make a difference to Dumbledore if he found out whose curse killed Ariana?

Well, I think he would indeedl feel worse, but the pain and the guilt will remain even if he wasn't, for he was supposed to be in charge of her and his brother, and instead he plan how to rule the world (it's a saying, don't take it literally) So, I think he'd take the responsability anyway.

What kind of Minister of Magic would Dumbledore have made?

Well for a start he'd sort of de-corrupt the ministry so they weren't controlled by nasty people making 'generous' donations here and there... Then get rid of yhe dementors. Two obviously GOOD things. I think overall, he'd make the ministry more efficient, honest and open. It wouldn't be like a shadowy government place filled with secrets. He'd try to include the general public in his decisions as well.

Ellie
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Hey everybody, what's up?

What kind of Minister of Magic would Dumbledore have made?

I like to think that had Dumbledore accepted the job of Minister of Magic, he would have been the absolute best thing that ever happened to the Ministry in a while. However, he didn't like to have too much power, so I know that he probably wouldn't have taken the job to begin with. But if he had...

Dess has an interesting idea, I think that in a sense he would revolutionize the way the entire Ministry worked, he'd be like the Headmaster of the Ministry of Magic. Some of the things that I think Albus would bring to the Ministry would be his dedication, his intellenct, and his strong will. I guess Dumbledore is just naturally a strong leader, but above all, I think he would just be himself.

-Karina

There are really no doubts as to what kind of Miniter would Dumbledore be.. He would change the entire Ministry ideals. He would crazy but very important changes. He would create a revolution. He would look to it that muggle-borns are given more privilleges then they would have, normally. He would calm down the gaints.. And, as Ellie said, he would de-corrupt the Ministry completely. He would train the Auror Department and in no time, all the Death Eaters would have been rounded up. And he would make sure that Azkaban is guarded by not the Dementors but humans. He would make sure the Dementors would stop breeding.... well, I can keep babbling... Dumbledore would change the scene entirely..

P.S. Sorry I went a bit off-track..

Don't worry Radcliffefreek, you weren't off track, the best discussions grow so feel free to go off in any direction you want!

I really like the idea that DeSs has come up with (nice to see you DeSs ) and I agree that rather than 'ruling' the ministry, he would teach and care for it. Rather than being the detatched entity, the figure that is seen and heard from but never 'reached' by the public, he would be somebody who was present in the community and really cared about the people he dealt with.
However... would this really be a desirable trait in a minister? Does the position not demand a degree of coldness, of detatchment? I think Dumbledore would really struggle to find the line where his own personal feelings had to stop. He would be logical, intelligent, wise, and creative in his leadership, but would he be ruthless enough?

Maybe that is the real reason he never took the position. Yes, it was because of the power, but even as headmaster he has huge amounts of power- training the next generation. Is it the combination of the power, and the way in which he would have to judge, to be ruthless, to be merciless with that power? Maybe that is what truely frightened him- not that he would want to become ruled by power instead of love, but that he would be encouraged to be ruled by it.


Keep posting!

Clara}~

You know *gasp* yes, I am back (shocking isn't it!)

Anyways, as I was saying, I think what scares me about DD being the Minister is that while he would have started out with many reforms, I believe the temptation would have been too great for him to delegate most of the responsibilities out to the Department Heads and that would have left him free to use Ministry resources to search for the Hallows. Perhaps this was a fear of his because even he said so that he was finished searching for the Hallows...given up on that dream when he stumbled across the fact that James had an invisibility cloak that was possibly the third Hallow and it immediately ignited his passion for the three objects again.

I also see him having a lot of influence upon whom ever was going to be the Headmaster or mistress of Hogwarts because teaching was truly a passion with DD because he realized to be a good teacher, one must never stop learning and that is really what made DD happy; life-long seeker of knowledge.

No, no I don't think the position demands detachments and coldness. Dumbledore was on highest position at Hogwarts, but still he was friendly with the students and at the same time he was strict as well.. (if we don't count the dew extra privileges Harry got) Thus, if DD was the Minister, he would be friends;y and helpfull to all the employees of the Ministry and at the same time he would take care that all the employees did their jobs nicely. He need not be cold or be detached from them... And, he always feared of the power he would get, so, yes, that can be counted.. But I don't think that he would be mercifull or he would detach himself from them.. Hw would have come to his senses sooner..

Hey Amanda, nice to see you!

Radcliffefreek


The thing is, being headmaster is very different from being minister. As headmaster you are in a kind of haven- Hogwarts was always desribed as a safe place, a home, somewhere that is safe from the outside world. Yes, I know that this wasnt the case in the endm but for many centuries it was true. As headmaster you are given huge responsibility to teach the next generation, and to teach them well, but if something goes wrong, you are not to blame. Obviously if the school was failing a headteacher would have responsibility, but I mean the other kinds of 'wrong'.
As minister, every failure of the government, every external failure, every downturn in the international wizarding community or whatever, you are to blame. You need detatchment because if you got emotionally involved with everything and took everything to heart you wouldnt last five minutes.
You also need to judge in a way that is entirely different from the way in which a headmaster needs to judge. Its a different kind of power, and you have to be distant to get the 'bigger picture'..
Im not saying Dumbledore had an easy job- far from it, just that I believe that his character is much more suited to the position of headmaster, as really, it is much much safer.

Clara}~