My take is that magic exists of course, everywhere, and that it is a part of the world - at least, the wizarding world. I also would like to believe that the steps of performing a spell goes:

Emotions - Concentration - Focusing the magic - Incantation.

Let me try to exlain. We all know that Harry did magic before Hogwarts; his hair growing out, the disappearing glass, etc. Those were his emotions. If you focus on a particular feeling, like I believe Tom Marvolo Riddle did, then you can narrow down the effects of the desired hex performance.

Now, from that, one could also use a wand to narrow the desired effect down even greater, focusing it into a concrete spell. Adding an incantation is like naming the spell. Incantations can then very well be used to increase concentration upon the wand. Those of great mindpower who don't need to chant the incantation in order to perform the spell. As of how a spell is created, I believe you can simply create the spell text and then with training and tweaking, the desired spell effect and the words will clash.

As we all know, there are spells that require long chantings like the one Ron tried when he tried to turn Scabbers yellow, or when Quirrell jinxed Harry's Nimbus 2000. I think it's something like that....

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I've never really thought about how a spell was made. For some reason, it always struck me that the spell was first made into a potion, then somehow tested, which is kind of a thick theory because not all spells can be made into a potion. We all know that Snape was intelligent as a child, and so fastinated by the dark arts, that he just simpily studied them. I think that he hoped to maybe create a curse that protected him against his father. It was shown in Harry's memory that who we presume is Snape's father was abusing his mother. Again, as stated, it depends on emotion to do something great. So, Snape put all his hate from his father into his spells, wrote down some incantations (translated from Latin to English) and made the spells..

As for it working with or without a wand, it depends if you want it to be that way .

When Harry (as a child) manages to grow back his hair after some really bad haircut, and sets the boa on Dudley it seems to be on an emotional basis rather than any use of a wand. And Hagrid does point out to Harry that he's a magician and asks him if he ever managed to do anything strange or out of the ordinary when he was particularly scared or excited... (words to that effect.)

It seems as if emotions can get in the way of mastering a spell (Harry in Charms class), but I agree that it does seem as if DADA is primarily based on channeling emotion. Then there's occlumency which seems to run the other way. (Wandless, reliant of curbing emotion rather than expressing it.)

Inventiveness with magic has been suggested through Snape (most obvious example), Luna's mother, the Mauraders (with the map) and Fred and George. While we've seen Hermione discover really useful spells through research ('point me' and 'the protean charm') I don't think we've ever seen her invent a spell.

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here are some of the spell meanings that i could find;
Accio: Latin, means to call or to summon
Aguamenti: comes from the Latin words 'aqua' (meaning water) and 'mentis' (meaning mind)
Alohomora: comes from the Hawaiian word 'aloha' (meaning hello/goodbye) and the Latin word 'mora' (meaning obstacle)
Anapneo: Greek, means to breathe
Aparecium: comes from the Latin word appareo (meaning to become visible)
Apparate: comes from the Latin word appareo (meaning to become visible)
Avada Kedavra: most likely taken from the old healing spell 'abracadabra', could be derived from the Arabic words 'abra kadabra' (meaning may the things be destroyed)
Avis: Latin, means bird
Colloportus: Latin, comes from the words 'colligere' (meaning to bind together) and portus (meaning door)
Confundus: comes from the Latin word 'confundo' (meaning to confuse)
Conjunctivitis: an inflammation of the mucous membrane that surrounds the surface of the eyeball (called the conjunctiva)
Crucio: Latin, means to torture
Deletrius: comes from the word 'delete' (meaning to erase or remove)
Dementor: comes from the English word 'demented' (meaning tortured) and the Latin word 'dementio' (meaning to go mad)
Densaugeo: comes from the Latin words 'den' (meaning teeth) and 'augeo' (meaning to thicken)
Diffindo: Latin, meaning to split
Engorgio: comes from the word engorge (meaning to fill to excess)
Ennervate: means to drain of energy
Erised: the word 'desire' spelled backwards
Evanesco: Latin, means to vanish or disappear
Expecto Patronum: Latin, the word 'expecto' means to await and the word 'patronum' means protection
Expelliarmus: Latin, means to expel a weapon
Felix Felicis: Latin, means lucky
Fidelius: Latin, means faithful
Finite Incantatem: Latin, literally means end of the spell
Homorphus: comes from the words 'homo' (meaning man) and 'morphus' (meaning to transform)
Immobulus: comes from the word 'immobilize' (meaning to prevent motion)
Impedimenta: Latin, comes from the word impedimentum (meaning a hindrance)
Imperio: Latin, means to command or rule
Impervius: comes from the word 'impervious' (meaning incapable of being affected)
Incarcerous: comes from the word 'incarcerate' (meaning to lock in)
Incendio: Latin, comes from the word 'incendo' (meaning to set fire to)
Levicorpus: comes from the Latin words 'levo' (meaning to raise) and 'corpus' (meaning body)
Liberacorpus: comes from the Latin words 'libera' (meaning to release or set free) and 'corpus' (meaning body)Lumos: comes from the Latin word 'lumen' (meaning light)
Lumos: comes from the Latin word 'lumen' (meaning light)
Mobilicorpus: comes from the Latin words 'mobilis' (meaning moveable) and 'corpus' (meaning body)
Morsmordre: comes from the Latin word 'mors' (meaning death) and the French word 'mordre' (meaning to bite)
Muffliato: comes from the word muffle (meaning to dull sound)
Nox: Latin, means darknessObliviate: comes from the Latin word 'oblivio' (meaning forgetfulness)
Orchideous: comes from the word 'orchid' which is a type of flower
Oppungo: Latin, means to attack
Patronus: Latin, means protectorPetrificus Totalus: Latin, literally means totally petrify
Portus: com es from the Latin word 'porta' (meaning gate)
Prior Incantato: comes from the Latin word 'priori' (meaning former) and an adaptation of the word 'incantation' (meaning chant or spell)
Protego: Latin, means protect
Quietus: comes from the word 'quiet'
Reducio: comes from the Latin word 'reduco' (meaning to reduce)
Reducto: comes from the Latin word 'reduco' (meaning to reduce)
Reparo: Latin, means to restore
Riddikulus: an adaptation of the word 'ridiculous' (meaning silly or nonsensical)
Sectumsempra: comes from the Latin words 'sectio' (meaning to cut) and 'semper' (meaning always)
Silencio: comes from the word 'silent'
Sonorous: Latin, means loud
Stupefy: means to dull the senses
Tarantallegra: comes from the words 'tarantella' (the name of a fast Italian dance) and 'allegro' (a fast and lively tempo)
Tergeo: Latin, means to scrub or clean
Veritaserum: comes from the Latin word 'veritas' (meaning truth) and the word 'serum' (meaning potion)
Wingardium Leviosa: comes from the Latin root 'levo' (meaning to lift or raise)

Latin is not the exclusive language of magic.

Hermione studies Ancient Runes, (which is a real study, of written Ancient Norse. JRR Tolkien was probably the world's foremost academic athority on ancient runes in the period from about 1918 to 1960.) They are powerful magic, and not Latin-based.

Snape created spells and potions, as well as making improvements in the formulae for certain potions, as described in HBP. Clearly some of this was library research, and some of this was creative invention. Slughorn mentions the inventors of some new potions too.

So spells are invented, in the same sense that muggle inventions are invented. Also, new magical principals can be discovered, just as new scientific discoveries can be made.



Last, about Harry's wandless magic: Giants, centaurs, and elves never use wands, jet they do magic. Divination rarely uses wands. Tonks doesn't use a wand when she changes her appearance.

Wands are clearly made objects. As with the creation of new spells and potions, there is some kind of magical theory behind their construction. They appear to be focussing devices, much as a telescope or microscope focusses light. Just as no-one will ever see a germ or the moons of Saturn without a microscope or a telescope, wands are essential to much magic. But some magic can be done without wands, and clearly magic was done before wands were invented.


The following is not canon, but JKR is clearly well versed in real history. Wands were developed by shrinking ancient magicians' staffs, which were in turn developed from still more ancient magical rune-sticks. Wands being used nowadays are much more versatile and reliable than old staffs or ancient rune-sticks. The process of improvement continues to this day.

"...Wands were developed by shrinking ancient magicians' staffs, which were in turn developed from still more ancient magical rune-sticks. ..."

I think it is likely that the reason spells are called "spells," is the association between magic and writing (and rune-sticks) in ancient times. This is also true of a slightly later word for magic, "legerdemain."

Whoa really wow all this stuff i saw teaches me more than HP But lattin and other things to. Wow i think i can pass this off as a educational site so i cn go on it all the time

But i think somewhere in a interview with JK some of her spells are from the lattin language so i guess, we might of figured this one out.

I think that the creation of spells, legally at least, is made in the experiament charms department in the ministry of magic. Most spells have Latin roots or are latin words, but a few aren't and I forget most of them lol. But good job on the list of spells, did you cut and paste from the spell page here at veritaserum. I was just wondering.

I have a feeling that spell creation is more like programming. I mean you have the fundamental commands in a programming language, you combine them together and order them in such a way that code or algorithm performs specific task that you desire. magical spell creation may also follow a similar pattern. From what we know, Arithmancy seems to be the magical art most likely to be concerned with spell creation. All the magical numbers may be combined together into equations (algebraic, arithmetic, logarithmic), which can then further be assimilated to form a spell or an enchantment. It could be possible that the particular words are directly correlated with some equattions. Consider Rictusempra nd Sectumsempra, now both likely involve a spell that impacts the skin of an individual, one causes tickling, while the other causes sever lacerations. The root (sempra) seems to be the same, the effect of the spell on the skin could be determined by the additional components that necessiate different enchantments. However, it doesn't seem to be universally applicable and would mean that non-verbal spells would entail thinking ard about the words. That doesn't seem to be the case since much of the magic is intent driven and doesn't seem to require spells, appartion and animagus transformation being prime example. I guess this is one of the mysteries that JKR may possibly explain in an HP encyclopedia, if sh decides to publish one after the final book.

I have noticed "Mort" and Morte" have crept up a lot in spell names, which, as I'm sure you know, is French for Death.
The Harry Potter books stick quite rigidly to the Wiccan, Pagan and even Jedi Knight belief that we are surrounded by energy that some can manipulate.
When placed in such a simplistic form, right and wrong don't come into it; it doesn't matter what you do with this energy as the only person you answer to is yourself.
This ties in quite beautifully with the fact that no Gods or afterlife has ever been mentioned by any witch or wizrd, despite the series' new death-related theme.
Dumbledore had a funeral, so there must be some kind of religious thing going on there.
And Voldemort messing around with his soul? The fact that he has a soul surely means the soul goes somewhere when the body is gone..?
Well, not for him, obviously, not because he is all evil and stuff, but because his soul is scattered around the world.
Oh, and I have noticed that Charms, Transfiguration and Conjuring require the (sometimes) complicated wand-movements; Enchanments, curses, jinxes and such are mainly about the state of mind, where, I'm assuming, the ability to manipulate this energy resides.
Emotional influence on the environment, if you will.
Creating spells would be easier to those who can di it non-verbally, as all you need to control is what you are thinking.
Most of magic is based on desire, as are most of the books.
And the world we live in today, sadly.

as a sidenote i would like to add that i believe the spell is derived from its latin words it is made of, i think of it kind of as an HTML item, you mess with the structure to get different results

The fact that the spells are mostly derived from Latin, gives me something to think about. I mean, in HP books we're in UK, and the most probable ancient language for spells should be Old Norse; but if not, this could mean that magic as we know it from HP could have been imported from the Mediterranean at the time of Roman invasion of Britannia. This could be an interesting theory. Actually, magic is believed to have been into human societies from prehistoric times.
I have a less subtle explanation...Latin is part of the main European languages as their origin or as linguistic borrowing; and it's part, along with ancient Greek, of almost ALL the scientific names of any field of science. So it is sort of a common understandable language...


Morte is Italian....Mangiamorte are the Death Eaters in Italian translations.


Absolutely! and I agree personally with this theory.


I think that JKR chose not to talk about religion, since there are too many religions involved (muggleborns and halfblood students...) and it could have been too complicated to explain...what is purebloods religion for example? (there's a topic for this)

Maybe Summerland? not necessarily Paradise or Hell...


Desire pushes the world on its future. Desire and will are the first ingredients of magic.

Witchmom )O(

i can't see how Snape managed to come up with spells ( levicourpus etc...)! I mean, it obviously takes ministry wizard to ivnet them, but Snape was only 15 or so? Any thoughts?

i'm guessing that they can be out dated and created because snape invented some that we read about in the sixth book, lupin and sirius also talk about spells that were popular in their days at hogwarts.

i was thinking that maybe snape created spells just like you might try creating potions; just guess different incantation and wond movements. the only problem with that is that it might turn out fatal.

or maybe he didnt make the spells they were just there and no one had used them? i mean it's believable but how could someone MAKE a magical Spell its like creating a new law of Physics you must see if it is actually true. If he made is then it must have taken ages or maybe he saw it done and did a memory charm and said it was his own? there is a billion possibilities

I think he's a genius, folks. People can see him as a greasy git, ugly and grumpy, but he's a genius. A boy who stayed all alone for the most part of his time and had a lot of time to think and create, while people his age had fun. That's why the spells were only in HIS book. He created them, don't know how, but he did it. The words have power and he succeeded in combining them to create new spells.


Witchmom )O(

well seing as most spells are rooted in some language, mostly latin, then maybe if you knew the latin root words of what you desire, then with the proper suffixes and prefixes, and wand movements then one could make a new spell without much difficulty at all... there must be volumes and volumes on the topic... it is the foundation of their life... someone knows how to do it, and others can learn

But in the 6th book Lupin said "Spells come and go out of Fashion" now maybe somehow Snape saw them used somewhere and then noted them down in a Potions Book his Mothers because he was good at Potions and DADA

well in fact it is real that Mort (french) is Morte in italian. But it is also real it is a french word : it is the "female"(well I don't know to say it, I think it might me feminine) word for mort. She is dead in french would be " Elle est mortE" while "He is dead" would be "Il est mort). Just to tell...

I don't realy think he could have seen this spell used somewhere... Especially SectumSempra (don't know if I spell it OK..) I don't a lot of people would use that spell in public with a 15 years old boy.... Even if he knew a lot of the dark arts...

I didn't want to read all of the posts so if this was your idea, whatever.

Okay, so I agree with the fact that They create spells and charms in the DoM. If you remember, Luna said that her mother was an extremely bright witch and she created spells. Could Luna's mom have been an Unspeakable? I guess we'll find out (maybe)

-keelyn-

yeah, i've always wondered that myself?

everyones always saying "there's no way to bring back the dead harry"

when his parents died...
when sirius died...
when dumbledore died...

so what if harry, just made his own spell?
and made them all come back?

i don't know, just a thought?
kind of dumb and pointless though?
becuase his parents are the reason he wants to kill voldemort
so he won't hate him if he's back
and he was so close to sirius
because he didnt know his parents
but now he has them back
and he was close and relayed on dd
because he had no parents
but now he does

so its an endless circle of nothing


haha im dumb

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alohamora
sectumsempra
Lirbacorpus
Rictosempra
augamenti
windgardium leviosa
incendio
accio
locomotor mortis
petrifictus totalus
arresto momentum<movie, PoA
lumos duo
lumos maxima
nox
dissendium
diffindo
crucio
avada kedavra
reducto
reparo
snufflifors<videogame, PoA
avlifors<videogame, CoS, GoF
orchideus
oppugno
muffliato
langlock
priori incantatem
finite incantato
stupify
protego
expelliarmus
glacius<videogame, PoA
episkey
imperio
locomotor<all motion charms
silencio
expecto patronum
colloportus
morsmordre
sonorus
tarantullegra
portus
pullus<videogame, GoF
duclifors<videogame, GoF
Mellofors<videogame, PoA, GoF
incarcerus
orvis<videogame, GoF
carpe retractum<videogame, PoA, GoF
herbivicus<videogame, GoF
aua eructo<videogame, GoF
relashio<videogame, GoF, book-PoA
Flipendo<videogame, SS, CoS, PoA
ebubblio<videogame, GoF
engorgio
inflatus<videogame, GoF
levicorpus
rennervate
ennervate
specialis revelio
legilimens
anapneo


Thats all I can think of at the moment!! chew on them for a bit though! Laugh Out Loud!!!!

i had some trouble following this thread recently... I cant see where we are going... maybe I looked over a line or some such thing...

as for creating a spell to awake the dead... Im not sure about that... it seems too easy... someone else would have done it before harry, someone more powerful...

~Albus

Albus, i am glad you posted about that. i have seen a fanfic in mugglenet.com, a very good site for both hp reality in the books, and fo fics. in a fic, i seen under r/hr ship, and i put the character death warning on, that ron has died, and hermione is looking up ways to get around death, ways to bring back the dead. but of course, as a living being the person who died, and to make them exactly as they were before they died. so, if some one researches a way to bring back a loved one from the dead, then i imagine that hermione would be the one to do it, and that she will be the one to succeed. i think that hermione displays such knowledge of spell work, she is the smarted in the well, now it will be the 7th year in hogwarts. she will definately find a way. shes definately intelligent enough, harry i think will be to busy to worry about that, he will be the one who is actually destroying the horcruxes, so hermione will be the one!! also, has anyone seen the list of spells that i have posted in i think it was this thread?

and no Albus, i did not copy paste the spells that i have posted, i merely was typing them out, and the other person must have posted while I was typing my post. besides, i have spells that the other post doesnt he/she has spells posted that i dont have.

Maybe Luna's mother was an Unspeakable.That would make sense.It would be cool to invent a spell to bring back the dead.But isn't that going against the laws of nature or something.I'm not really sure what my opinions on that subject are.I have mixed feelings.I just wish they hadn't died.It's too sad.


I wonder if someone very smart,like Hermione will ever invent a spell of the sort.

Some people would really appreciate that spell.

Dude/Dudette, are you actually saying that spells have to go with the forces of nature o_O?
Well, they (definetly) don't. I won't give you a full summary but do you think a floating club goes with natures laws. Or how about terrible pain without the body being damaged that's impossible too.
Spells, curses, jinxes and however you like to call them are supposed to "bend' the laws of nature. Wingardium Leviosa and Levicorpus both defy the law of gravity. Crucio's pain (I believe) is all in your head, an illusion, completely against nature (feeling pain without getting hurt).
But this was a bit offtopic, so now that the nature of a spell is (hopefully) a bit more clear, we can continue the discussion on how they are made. Personally I don't have a clue

For the record (as I believe this might be confusing) all I am saying is that spells are supposed to bend the laws of nature . I do think it's plausible though, because we (muggles) can also bring people back from being dead (under circumstance that the dude is only dead for 'bout few minutes or something) anyway, a spell to bring back the dead won't work when the body is to severly damaged, the person will just die again, which is the case with every single cause of dead, except(!) with the Avada Kedavra, a spell to bring back the dead would only be an AK remover. The body would also have to be dead for a short time so it won't be decomposing(sp?).

this topic was actually discussed on a podcast of the leaky mug.
there are spells and incantations that can be used without even speaking,
so how do we find names for them?
perhaps a wizard notices that when he focuses his attention to something, he gets a result,
and perhaps later he assigns a word?

I believe that you cant creat a spell but you can take a long study and find out differeny movements and phrases. The magic i believe is in the core. for example pheonix feather, unicorn hair, dragon heart string, etc. notice they are all magic creatures.

Hi,

I think all kind of effects always existed and wizards had to name the effect to use it. I think spells such as expecto patronum have been named earlier than stupefy, since people spoke Latin first. Nota bene: stupefy comes from the Latin word "stupere" (first person: "stupeo"), which has, according to my Latin/Dutch dictionary, four meanings:
1) to be paralysed/ to be rigid
2) to be bewildered
3) "to examine with stupefaction"/ to admire
4) to stand still/ to catch
I'm not very good at English translation, I used the internet with the third and fourth meaning and in my opinion, they aren't exactly the same as the Dutch meanings, but they will have to do; sorry. Obviously, J. K. Rowling has chosen for the first meaning with "Stupefy", seeing what kind of effect it has.

As other people already stated, Severus Snape wrote down spells he invented. I think he just named an "effect" right and that worked. Sectumsempra is Latin, so Snape must know some Latin... If you're good at translating English to Latin, then you could make up your own spells. Which leads to a -for me- new thought: will Harry have to come up with a new spell, a spell which has something to do with love (amor) or friendship (amicitia)? Verbs: amo (from "amare"), means "I love", amico (from "amicare"), roughly means "I make friends".

Is anyone seriously interested in the exact meanings of all of those spells prince_halfblood_22 named? I'd be willing to translate, but not everything in one day; that'd be way too much!

Marieke

This is like asking whether Magic was created and/or who created it. It is just something that exists...inside Jo's world.

One thing I used to forget is that a spell or a charm does not require words. So that means that a skilled wizard can just wave his wand and have whatever he is thinking happen. Saying the incantation is obviously much easier because it helps you think about what you want to do. Therefore, you can do anything with magic. It is...magic! Incantations only help people who aren't as adept at the skill be able to do it easier. But someone like Dumbledore could probably do whatever he wanted with a wand; in fact, we sort of see that in The Cave, half-Blood Prince with him and the potion in the basin.

So in response to your post, no, I do not think so. Magic is what it is and it depends on the teacher who is teaching you that enables what you will learn. For all we know, there may be a spell to make a chicken dance upside down and that word might be pollo upsidedowno bailo. Perhaps I'm ranting, I'll move on now . I hope someone understands what I am getting at....

I am going to disagree. Some magic may be about intent, but most require the correct word order, no matter how much you want it to happen. So this leads me to believe that the words themselves are important, and bear magic in their own way. Remember what was said about Wingardium Leviosa, when said wrong once, a wizard ended up with a buffalo on his chest.

I understand what you are saying about intent, and willing something to be through magic, but I think it works differently. I think the reason why some wizards know how to do so much random stuff with magic is because they are well versed in the creaton of spells. By knowing how to create a spell, one can manipulate existing spells to get different desired effects, as well as create completely new spells.

As for the chicken dancing upside down, I think it would require a new spell to create merely a combination of spells, and order a new spell derived from existing spells. To get a chicken to dance upside down would be easy if you can use levicorpus to raise the body upside down, then Tarantallegra to get it to dance. By doing that in your head as a non-verbal spell, it appears you are willing the chicken to dance by pure, unadulterated magic, which wouldnt be the case. And worse comes to worse with spell creation, one could always use the imperius curse to get the desired effect from the chicken

~Albus

Good point, Albus Dubledore.

Maybe it's not the right topic to ask this, but in this topic there's been a discussion on the Avada Kedavra, so... What exactly happens? Do they just die or do they (the people killed by the curse) vanish? Because Sirius' body wasn't there, but muggles were reported dead and later said to be killed by that curse. I get confused by this. Which is it?

On to the discussion... I think there's always been magic. I think so because people don't seem to be exhausted when they cast magic. This means that the magic is not pulled from life energy, but something else (unlike the magic described in Eragon), if it's even pulled from somewhere. It certainly can't come out of nothing, because if there's nothing, there's also no magic (seems logical..). So, there has to be something.
Now my thoughts get stuck...

Anyway, tell me what you think on this, please.

Marieke

Dont worry Marieke, on first reading OotP, I too was confused as to what happened, so I read that paragraph again. With the case of Sirius, if you remember, a shot of red light was sent from Bellatrix's wand, which knocked Sirius into the Veil. That is why there is no body, and the Avada Kedavra was not used. The Avada Kedavra is a spell that will kill without leaving a mark. In most circumstances, the victim will merely fall over dead, and the killing is so efficient that Muggle Policemen cannot solve how the person died.

~Albus

Oh.. so maybe Sirius can come back through the veil There must be another discussion on this somewhere else on the forum, I'll find it. Thanks for enlightening me.

By the way: asking about the origin of magic is like asking about the origin of ehm, animals? species? If we accept the Darwin theory, then everything could have evolved out of one cell (theoretically), then how did that cell become a cell? It has to begin somewhere...

Marieke

It is a really good question... How are spells created...

I often think about that. It cannot be as hard as we all think. I mean Snape can make a lot of own charms, spells and curses. There must be a formula... Just try something won't function.

OR?

I hope, that this question will cleared...

Maybe Harry creat his own. A spell, which is the contrapart of the Avada Kedavra.

Thin about that!

I think there must be some sort of theory or laws behind magic and spells, similar to the laws of physics. If you know the laws of physics, chemistry, mechanics/biomechanics, etc you can use that theory to create and invent new things, such as a new design for an aeroplane wing, or a new part for a car. I think something similar, although less abstract, exists for creating new spells, and this must be how the HBP created his own spells, and how other people must do it (I think Voldermort mentioned in GoF that he created his own). Also, the similar principle would be able to be used for potions. Maybe it changes slightly depending on the subject, such as transfiguration, charms and dark arts spells.

Also, i would think, like anything in life, that spells are invented and forgotten alot. And this will relate to the ancient magic and power of love that Dumbledore mentions. And i agree that Harry will use some new spell relating to love, but i don't think it'll be so new. I think Harry will come across an old/ancient spell that uses love, but what the mgical community has forgotten because not many people can do it well. But Harry will be able to.

I think that the people who make spells may know what certain root words, like loco- is movement, etc. and they string the words to make somthing and test it.

most, if not all of the charms used are simply direct descriptions of the action of the spell. but in Latin. but simply saying the word doesn't make the spell work, which is why wizards have to go to school. most of what they seem to learn in charms class is about technique. you need to keep focus on the action of the spell your trying to perform or it won't work properly (e.g. harry and summoning charms, GoF, just before the first task). so it's kinda like some sort of telepathic control. because its as simple as THINKING about something and it happens (with a little help from a wand or speaking out loud) i think the magic you can do is limited only by your imagination. the only reason i believe that children need to be taught charms is so they learn how to focus on doing something magical.

i think i waffled on a bit too long. probably won't make any sense

Okay
well
in Eragon by Christopher Paolini
magic just exists
it existed before there were words for the spells (or what you would call it)
all you had to do was think it and it happened
you could still do that if didnt know the word for it
but it would be easier to state what you would want that think it
because you be distracted and change thoughts and get something completely different than what you wanted
so you could bring back a person
but as many people state in the book
you would die because the task would take all your energy
will harry potter is different and would probably work (idk)
because you use wands instead of yourself
(i dont know how to explain it if you have read it you know what i mean)
and pretty much all his magic words come from the Norse language

J.K. Rowling uses Norse but not for spells but names
E.X. - Fenrir in Norse mythology is The fenris wolf or Fenrir is a big wolf that talks


and spells could only be in some languages (i guess)
E.X. - Dumbledore coming from the cave to hogwarts on the broom muttering mermish(i think) under his breath

Hey for the latin translation of the killing curse

Kedaver( sorry for spelling) is a dead body

Aveda spelling:() might be a referenece to changing something

Well, Ok. I think that the spells have been created before but its just discovering them. Its just not waving a wand around and saying some words. I think you have to discover these spells to unlock the magic in them. Magic is just something you feel, not something you know. So I think you must Discover the magic, and once you've done that you must unlock, take hold of it, and than use it.

Magic has been around for a long time, like well over 100 years. So i dont think anyone right now knows how magic was created so here's my theory:


1. Magic has been magic forever so no one can explain it.

2. Magic was made up by someone and everyone believed it (no offence to anyone!)

3. Spells were created by children who got up to mischief and tried to scare people

4. The spells are just foreign words for people to curse at other people when they're really
angry and then they turned into scary defencive words (I hope that made sense)


So thats how I think spells and magic were created what do you think??? Yuo can reply to me If you want to
Sorry if this offended anyone!!!