good point but think about this after bathildas secret if you saw it split there, do you think you ere given enough to want to come back? & the silver doe as actually something i thought about to. i have a feeling that it maybe at the silver doe. i think it might be before ron comes back or after he does & they end it . i dont know how far into rons return they will but thats my opinion (: what does everyone else think?

Okay, so I think that there are two possible places for the split.

1- Right after the Silver Doe. I agree with a bunch of the posts and feel that with the reappearance and the unified trio, it would be a good place to cut the first movie and leave viewers with the knowledge that Ron is back (the trio is once more) and that one more horcrux is destroyed. SO it will end at least two questions by finishing there.

2- Right after Xenophilius Lovegood. I like this split much better because this is the big turning point in the book. If you split here, the viewers will have the second adventure whirling around in their minds, the Deathly Hallows. This answers the question of what the symbol on Mr. Lovegods necklace was at the wedding. It begins to tie together Grindlewald, the Deathly Hallows, Albus Dumbledore's past, and the second big bullet on the trio's agenda. At the end of this chapter, the HRH escape the Death Eaters one more time. So the first movie will end with some earlier questions answered, some underlying themes emerging, new and more relevant questions appearing, and one last little battle to get the excitement going for the next movie.

So I like the 2nd option, what do you guys think?

I think that if they end with Xenophilius Lovegood, they'll have the trio being captured by the Death Eaters. That way it's a major cliffhanger, and it will ensure that everybody who went to see Part 1 will take the time out to go see Part 2 six months later.

Ok there is a rumor circulating from members of the cast that the split will occur following Ron's return. This hasn't been confirmed, but it has been suggested. I must say I was hoping it would occur right before Ron comes back so everyone is held in suspense or while Harry is underwater slowly dying. Either of those would for certain get people who were disappointed in the first half back because they just want to know how that particular conflict is resolved or both if it is when Harry is drowning. I would rather the split occur during a suspenseful cliff hanger than a happy moment. I think it might also be better for the box office but then again I am not a big fan of really happy endings. Some movies have been ruined for me like CoS and Return of the Jedi because the endings were so corny. As long as the first half doesn't end on a line like "Whatever happens, we are in this together" etc I think I will be fine though.

Yes, I just read that rumour, and I think it'd be great if it starts with Ron.
But ending in a suspense part, like Harry drowning, or the Death Eaters coming, or something of the sort, won't be suitable for a movie, but maybe for a soap, don't you think? I mean, having a whole year between the two movies, it won't be really credible if it ends with somebody dying.
Maybe it ends when Ron gets back, and saves Harry, and Harry hugs him or something after destroying the Horcrux, but that won't be very good either, cause Hermione isn't there. So, I'm kind of confused.
And if they'd do it after Xenophilius' visit, maybe it won't leave much of the story, because of course they'll be cutting off parts, and after Xenophilius what? Harry suffering, Harry going loopy, Harry thinking, Harry annoying ... (ok, stop), they listening Potterwatch, but I doubt they will put that, maybe the Death Eaters catch them under another excuse, Malfoy Manor (I'm dying for listening to Ron crying "HERMIONE! HERMIONE! HERMIONE! HERMIONE!" like a thousands' times), Shell Cottage (after Dobby's death, if they include it, and Lupin's visit, it won't be much left to add), Gringotts, the Battle of Hogwarts ... but all more or less in a brief way.
I don't know, just want to find it out now!

i think the split might occur around about the silver doe or xenophilius lovegood chapters because that is more or less the middle of the book (i think!). anyway i'm not sure what to think to be honest you could either end it on a high when ron comes back or have a cliffhanger when xenophilius betrays them to the death eaters! so i guess we won't really know for a while so we probably will just need to wait and see! we will need to wait like a year or two!

I think it should end at Malfoy Manor. That was a brilliant chapter. And the movie could end when Dobby gets stabed.

Yeah, they could end with Dobby's death.

I think I would kinda like it better for the first part to end on a suspenseful, sad part, rather than the traditional, cheesy, everyone is happy again ending...

I don't think they are going to split the book into to two movies byt the chapters. I think they are going to do it by "where can we make two stories"? I think it will all depend on what they cut out and how they piece it together for the movies. I just wonder how well they will stick to the story as it is written or if they will rearrange it for the purpose of two movies.

I think they will split it at the part where Ron comes back. Another place I think would be good is when they go to Xeno Lovegood's place and he says "Are you referring to the sign of the Deathley Hallows?" and then it goes black, with writing that says "To be continued" and That is the end of DH1.
-snapestinks

I think it will happen later than any of those chapters. At the very earliest it will happen when they arrive at Shell Cottage and possibly with the death of Dobby, but i suspect it will be later still...

I think that as they fly away from Gringotts on the dragon would be the best time for it to happen, this is for a variety of reasons:

1.) The first half of the book is quite a lot of sitting around and waiting and finding out bits about Dumbledore. SO i think most of the trimming that they'll get done will be done in the first film.

2.) They will want a couple of nice set piece action sequences for the first film and i think it would work out well if they used Malfoy Manor and Gringotts for these.

3.) The second film would then have a very clear start and finish point and would mean that they could focus alot more time and energy on the Battle for Hogwarts and also all the revleations that happen at the end. There's plenty to fill 2 1/4 hours with.

The Silver Doe is a great way to split it I reckon. But It also be when they break into Gringotts, I felt that was a great chapter.

The Silver Doe does sound like a good spot. I agree with the fact that it would end on a lighter note and film makers do tend to do that. I like the idea of Ron coming back and them destroying their first horcrux. But they could totally throw us off and it could be the weirdest spot..I'm excited to see..

When the Silver Doe appears. Because it'll create 1001 questions in our mind (well, it'll create 1001 questions in the minds of people that don't READ HP)...

Also, because it's in the middle of the book..

i'm thinking they will split it when Ron walks out ... dramitic ending then??

but the silver doe would be good too

I definitely believe the split will occur at the chapter where the Silver Doe makes an appearance. It was such a powerful moment in the book, sort of like taking a deep breath.
It would leave the audience wondering (well, those that don't know the significance of the Silver Doe) and end the movie on a stunning level of suspense.

i voted for the silver doe , but the more i think about it , the more i believe they should end the first film when harry and co get caught by the snatchers , and start film two with them in the cellar of malfoy manor ,

i can just imagine the end of the first film when harry says voldemorts name , and the last line in the film is spoken by greyback sayin ' weve gotcha now ' , and then the second film cuts straight to when hermione is being tortured by bellatrix

i think that would be really good j.g.vs.h.p , if the cut straight to hermione sreaming and ron crying in the cellar with harry luna and olivander

i dont think that they will cut it at the silver doe , it doesent leave enough to make a two hour film out of , for the first half of the book harry an co do nothing but travel and sit around , the doe would be too early to end

I thunk the split will occur during Harry and Hermione's travels. I'm not really sure though because I can't exactly remember the whole book. Either this scene or Ron storming off, but this may cut the movie too short.

I voted for silver doe just because it seemed best from all the options. If I were to choose where it split I would pick when Harry says LV's tabooed name. It would end with nice suspense (even though we all know what is going to happen :p) and I'm pretty sure that's a reasonably equal split. Yeah, maybe when Harry finishes saying his name it could spiral out and then there would be the second part. That sounds ideal to me. Plus, so much more happens that is of interest to me in the second part of the book (excluding the epilogue), so I want the second part to start after a cliffhanger of sorts.

I think it most likely at the Silver Doe but I wouldn't be surprised if it were at Godric's Hollow. It will be as huge a climax as the studio can create, that much is certain.

I think it should happen right after the chapter "The Deathly Hallows", right after they've listened to Potterwatch and Harry says Voldemort's name and the Death Eaters arrive. The movie should end just as the Death Eaters say something like "Come out, we know you're in there!". I think this will leave people in suspense! And then the second part will start at "Malfoy Manor".

I think the split should happen at the Silver Doe. It is when Ron comes back and Harry finds a horcrux. It would also be good to cut it off when Ron leaves. That will probably leave people more disgruntled than anticipating, though. They'll have to think up something really good!

No matter where they split the two parts, it will leave the viewers in suspense, wanting more. Almost every TV show does it, which I think it's a good thing. Because it leaves us wondering what will happen next.
But my question is, why are they splitting it into two parts? Are they trying to make up for all the stuff they took out from the previous movies and trying to cram every little detail from the book into the movie?

For once they have actually recognised that they can't cut anything out of the final book - the whole plot is necessary as it ties up all the loose ends and answers all the questions running throughout the series; unlike with the previous books which had numerous sub-plots which didn't affect the overall outcome of the series at all.

So, we are lucky that they have actually read the book this time, and realised that it would not make any sense to cut anything from the final film. This means that it has to be in two parts as otherwise the film would be a minimum of about 5 hours long. I doubt even the most die-hard HP fan would sit in a cinema for that long (and that's speaking as one!!!).

I think it would be a cool place to end the first part if they ended it right before malfoy manor. Like, they say voldemorts name, the people show up and capture them, and they dont say where they are going. Then they are walking up like some long driveway and the camera flashes to a sign on a big steel gate or something that says malfoy manor and the movie ends, that would be a great spot to end. It would leave all the non book readers in suspense because they know malfoy manor cant be good, and for us book readers it would just leave us excited, because although we know what is going to happen we also know that the best is yet to come

lancelot243, that would be an interesting split but it would be more of a cliffhanger if those in audience who haven't read the books don't know where the trio are being taken. even before that, if they get to the point where Harry says Voldie's name and suddenly the voice sounds 'come out, we know you're in there' and we see the 'oh crumbs, now we're for it' looks on the trio's faces, that would be interesting too.

I've always thought the same thing about Malfoy Manor being a good spot, but that is more than halfway through the book. I don't know. There is quite a bit that happens after Malfoy Manor, with Shell Cottage, the Gringotts heist, and the Hogwarts Battle. I think it would have to happen before Shell Cottage though, because Toby Jones (Dobby) said that he's filming for both movies.

They definitely want the split to have a cliffhanger that leaves the non readers wanting to return to see the other half. Ron leaving, I don't think is climatic enough. Destroying the locket horcrux after the silver doe, I think would be, and the trio getting captured I think would be too.

I went to the exact middle of the book too, and it was at the Silver DOe Chapter. page 379-380 was the exact middle of the book, in the American Version. It was when Ron and Harry go back to tent and Hermione attacks ron.that's no the best spot to end the 1st half though. If they do end it at the Silver Doe, it will prob be before ron rescues Harry or the part when they decide to Xeno's house!!!! What do you guys think???? I am really anxious to see the movie! first I want to know where the split will be. Then again, I wil want to see the other half of the movie even i have read the book several times! u know what i mean!!!!!!!!!!

I thought that they might make the split at the very end of Malfoy Manor when Dobby dies. Just after they have escaped from the Manor and they are safe and Dobby was stabbed. It'll make the audiance all teary and the last words will be "Harry....Potter...." (I personally think they should put Sir on the end) and then the camera lense could zoom into Dobby's eyes or zoom out so that we see Harry kneeling beside Dobby with his friends running towards him on the cliff top near the sea in that beautiful place. The camera might then go up to the stars or something I dunno....anything could happen. Then they second half will be about abandoning the Hallows and stuff...

...but then the Silver Doe does sound very likely...

hmmmm...I'm not too sure.

I think, seeing as they are about to start filming the scenes at Shell Cottage, it's likely that part one will end at the bit where they arrive at Shell Cottage. That way we are left with a cliff hanger - literally. And by the end we will want to watch the second part in order to find out where they are and what they do with Dobby's body. That would make great suspense!

I heard they are going to cut it off when a Ron returns for they know it would be a happy ending. Though I really think they should cut it when Ron leaves so it will give a nice suspense and leave a cliff hanger knowing it is not over.

i dunno, i think it would be kind of cool for them to end the first half just after they steal the dragon from gringotts and have the end of the movie sort of them just flying off into the horizon

I think for them to split it into two different "stories" Ron's return would be the best part. They could have it like them escaping from the wedding and all that blah blah blah. Then Ron comes back and it is like a happy ending and all that. Then the second movie can be more about them finding the horcruxes and obviously ending at the end of the book.

[indent]This sequence just seems like it would work out the best to make the two movies make sense for people who haven't read the book. It can create sort of a happy ending thats not really an ending.

the silver doe, because i had a magizine where they asked the director where he thought it was going to be and he said once Ron comes back!!

I think the best part to finish the first half would be right after ron leaves.

I am replyiing to what Lancelot said. I think that would be a nice ending but dont you think it should be more of a cliff hanger sort of deal andso the best for that would be when Ron leaves OR just when they get caught to be taken to Malfoy Manor?

Ohh! Yeah that would be a good part to leave it at, sabrina!!!! But if it was right before they got caught and taken to Malfoy Manor, I think it could be too far into the book. I could be wrong.

The part I think would be best is the part right after they discover that Bathilda Bagshot was really Nagini and then Harry's wand gets broken. That's where they should leave it.

i definitely think the movie should end at the end of the Silver doe chapter. This chapter ends on an emotional high and a happy note. Ron's return would be the perfect way to end the first part and the scene at Godric's hallow could be more drawn out and made to be more of the climax while ron's return resolves the search for the sword and his absence.

I can already imagine the 2nd movie beginning with the crack of apparition and harry, ron, and hermione appearing in hilly area trekking their way to the lovegoods house.

oh and to those people who say the first will be boring think about the beginning during the broomstick chase, the break in at the ministry, godrics hollow, silever doe...
btw i see the parts of the novel when their traveling to be more of a montage than actual scenes

I think it will come right after the silver doe part. it will end the movie on a high note and make you excited for the second part. It comes right after alow note and then a high note since ron comes back from leaving them and they destroy a Horcruxe. Its the logical spot to split them.

yep i would have to go with the majority and say the silver doe. it just seems to make sense. that is about halfway through the book, and everything is at least partially resolved at that point. it will end on a high note since ron is back and the horcrux is destroyed. that would be a better ending than a total cliffhanger.

I think the scene of the silver doe because that is where everything starts coming together again because Ron comes back and then them destroying a horcrux here to I think this would be a great place to split the movies.

i think they are most likely to end the first part when Ron destroys the Locket with Gryffindor sword, that would be reasonable as then they could not miss any part of the second half that is really imortant and i just dont want to be seen how they delete again( as in HBP) the best part of the story that for me begins in the chapter 31 _ the battle of hogwarts although all the book is really awesome but i just love that part ! what aryaforce says about spliting the film when ron leaves would be great too as it leaves a very dark image for the next film..

i had a doubt and i was wondering if anybody knew if the two parts will last each like a normal film or each part wont last too much so then when put together they are as any other hp films?

Definitely the Silver Doe! And if I would like to be cruel, then I'd say to cut it off when Harry is in the water, and we don't know yet how he's gonna be rescued. Okay, just kidding, it would be too much. But that's for sure, this is the scene where many things turn around, Ron is coming back which gives a certainty for us that they'll handle to Horcrux hunting successfully. I mean, for me it was the most dramatic point in the book, when Ron left them, and in this way the return was a such a bug relief. The filmmakers should also consider this turning point, but I think they know this well.
However cutting the 7th part anywhere will be surely a shock, waiting another year for the ending is for every fan a big challange, I think.

I think I remember reading online somewhere the split will be when Ron leaves. I'm not sure if it's true, but I remember reading something that had stated it will most likely be Ron leaving that the split will happen, and Part II will continue with either Ron coming back or somewhere near that.

But note: This isn't definite, I don't remember where I read it.

It needs to end on a cliffhanger because the 7th book is full of cliffhangers, surprises and deaths so to end the first film on a happy ending would please movie goers but in my opinion doesn't reflect the dark nature of the seventh book. Plus if they are ending Part 2 with that awful, cringey,'cute'( ) epilogue then they shouldn't have the first film end happily as well. There can't always be a happy every after(Tonks and Lupin )

So originally i picked Bathilda's Secret because that is one of my favourite ever HP scenes just because it was so unexpected and actually really exciting. But thinking about it that would be slightly too early given the rest of the stuff to be covered: The Deathly Hallows, Silver Doe etc. So i now think that they should end just before Malfoy Manor when the trio are surrounded by Snatchers. The previous scenes when the trio escape Lovegood's house create tension and then Harry breaking the taboo creates a final dramatic ending

Just typing this i am already excited, i need to read the book again!!!

I voted Malfoy Manner but after ready some of the posts above I'm kind of indecisive

I thought maybe when they are dissapparating from the Lovegood's house??
That way everyone's heard about the Deathly Hallows and left wondering what they've got to do with it so they're curious for part 2...
I thought that would be good because the house is falling down and its all chaos, really..
Hermione twists in mid air, they dissappear and we see the house falling down..maybe the Weasleys will hear something over from the Burrow and wonder what it is..then the music slowly fades in..(I know I made the Weasley part in but they always add things in anyway, and it would be another reminder that they were so close to the Burrow)

I don't think the Godric's Hollow part would be a good place to stop because there is so much you still have to go through.

But then again if you stopped when they are going to Malfoy manner all you'd have left would be Malfoy Manner itself, Shell Cottage, Gringotts and Battle of Hogwarts. Would that take up a full movie ??

The Silver Doe would be good with Ron coming back, and all....but I think they should save the happy ending for Part 2..

I think they need to introduce the Deathly Hallows in the first part, otherwise people won't have a clue where the connection comes in...and it is the name of the book, of course.. :L

As you can see, I'm confused

I think the Silver Doe or the Malfoy Manor is a great place for the split.

Silver Doe because it reunites the trio as they get ready to continue their journey.

Malfoy Manor because of they can add a little cliffhanger thing at the end with Dobby as they show the knife in his body and whether or not he'll die then the movie can fade out with Dobby's vision going blurry (and for people who read the book they will know what happens while non-readers will think he fainted or whatever).

But I'm kind of sketchy on both cuz if it splits at the Silver Doe then the second part will be Xenophilius, the introduction of the Hallows, Malfoy Manor, Shell Cottage, Gringotts, and the last like 10 chapters or whatever and they're all important so it can't just be skimmed over, it needs to be in depth. And I wonder if they'll put in the Epilogue...But yeah that's like ALOT of stuff to through in the ordinary 2 hr 30 min movies.

If the splits occurs at the Malfoy Manor however...it's the same thing just the other way around. The first movie will contain the meeting of Voldemort, in the beginning, the Dursleys, the 7 Potters, the Will, the Wedding(which may be short actually), Kreachers Tale, the break-in into the Ministry, Ron's departure, the scene at Godrics Hallow and the Life and Lies of Dumbledore. And I hope they make the battle at the beginning really good especially.

Either way, I just hope Yates takes his time with these movies. I'm glad it's being split at least so everything isn't sandwiched into one movie unless it was like 5 or 6 hours which I totally wouldn't mind. But OMG I'M SO EXCITED I WANNA SEE IT ALREADY!!!!! =]

I hope that they split it after they find Gryffindor's sword. I mean, it wouldn't make much sense to leave us hanging for that long. If they at least solve the mystery of the locket for those who haven't read the books, it would make so much more sense. I think that, provided they do the split like how they did in "Pirates of the Caribbean" (they split parts 2 and 3), it could turn out very well! I just hope that they don't screw it up!!!

I'm actually quite excited to see how this split movie plays out.

It's pretty much been said during an interview with Joshua Herdman (Goyle) that the split will most likely happen at the end of Chapter 22 (Deathly Hallows) and right before Chapter 23 (Malfoy Manor) I read an article today where he was interviewed about where the split would occur, he also indicated that it would be he that dies in the final movie and not Crabbe. Jamie Waylett will not be reprising his role in DH.

This seems like as good a place to make the split as any other. There are plenty of good action sequences from all the mess at the Ministry to Godric's Hollow and the finding of the sword, so that will keep things moving along and make for a good break from all the scenes of the trio sitting around planning things. Also we will get to find out about the Deathly Hallows in the first movie. This was a point that always bothered me about putting the split at the Silver Doe. It seemed odd to go through an entire movie called The Deathly Hallows and never mention them. So all and all I'd have to say I'm pretty happy with this being the choice for the split. We get to see Ron run away and come back again, we get the one Horocrux destroyed, and the second movie gets to start off with a bang.