No, not the students if you're thinking so...i'm talking about the Death Eaters...when they entered Azkaban, surely their wands were taken away...otherwise, there's no use of locking them up, when they can use their wands to get rid of dementors and escape, right? so they must have their wands taken away...but where do they get their wands from when they escape?? i mean, in part five, bellatrix, dolohov, blah blah all escape, and in the Department of Mysteries, they fight Harry's and co. with wands...where did they get their wands? and i dont suppose a lot of Death Eaters just walked into Ollivander's shop to get new wands...so i was just wondering where they get their wands from...oh right, and Sirius himself...he too escaped, where did he get his wand from? isnt that something to wonder?

Well if we assume that these are, in fact, the Azkaban escapers original wands then I don't see any plausible solution. But let's assume that these are other wizards wands. Afterall, Pettigrew, not the most capable wizard, was abvle to do an Avada Kedavra with someone else's wand. (Voldemort's wand to kill Cedric Diggory in the graveyard scene of Goblet of Fire.) We know it is Voldemort's wand because during the Priori Incantatem Cedric's body came out, and we know Peter cast the spell because Voldemort told Peter to "kill the spare" and then Cedric is dead. we also know that Neville has been using his father's wand for years. If these two can do it (this is not a knock on NEville or Peter's magical ability by the way; I think both are more capable than people give them credit for) then I have no doubt that Sirius or Bellatrix could do it.

If we make the assumption that it is not their wands or wands that they picked out (or picked them according to Mr. Ollivander ) then we can assume that they are in fact using other people's wands. Now where would they get such a wand? Well we can infer that because of Neville using his father's wand and such that wands are not destroyed when their owner dies. In fact, I would not be surprised if there was a massive used wand trade in the wizarding world.

This makes me think that maybe one of the death eaters bought Nott, the Lestranges, etc their wands. Perhaps Malfoy with his massive funds did it. Sirius getting a wand is a little trickier because no one initially believed him. Maybe he stole it though.

I'm not sure about any of this, but its a good question. ANd a massive plot hole if JKR does not have an answer.

Yes, I wondered about that too! I wonder if Pettigrew left his wand when he transformed into a rat during his confrontation with Sirius. He doesn't seem to have kept it, why else would he use Voldemort's wand to kill Cedric? But what I'm really interested in is, how did Voldemort keep his wand if he didn't have a body for 12ish years? And I suppose when the spell backfired his body just evaporated or something?

I always assumed that since Voldemort and his death earters killed so many people during Voldy's last reign, that the death eater's built up a sort of armory full of wands. so, if a death eater were to lose his or her wand, there would be repacements for those who are fugitives.

Well, it's like guns, isn't it? The real 'Big Guys' have the sense to know to use unregistered weapons that can't be traced to them. Only a complete and utter moron would use a gun for a crime that is registered in his/her name.

I would have thought that either the DE's had the sense to put some kind of untraceability thingy on their wands or would get them someplace that wasn't registered...like somewhere in Knockturn Alley maybe so the Ministry would never be able to track down which one belonged where.

Although I think it's highly likely that they might just use the wands of wizards/witches they've killed, as Margeaux suggested....they'd be untraceable then too.

well, for once i thought it would be some wand-shop in Knockturn Alley which supplies them all these wands...but i guess, this wand-guy has to be REALLY brave and all to be actually giving out wands to 'the dark lord'. i mean, everyone's so scared of him...not that, just because you're in Knockturn Alley, doest mean you are a DE or that you are 'big' enough to be dealing with DEs and Voldemort - the worst of them all.

Probably this wand provider is a DE himself!! I mean, wouldn't it be easier for the Dark Lord to have someone like that in the inside? There's no treat that they would tell to the Ministry about their whereabout...

But I like Dana's idea that it could probably from those wizards they've killed before...

Although... did we heard anything about anyone getting killed except for Bertha from the moment LV resurrected to the DoM duelling scene?

Most probably there are, it's just it was hidden from Harry's knowledge and thus from us too...

I dunno.... just playing with ideas... **shrugs**

i really thought i was the only one who wondered about this type of thing... haha well yay!! But yeah that was def something I wanted to know... I kinda figured something of like an armory (sp??) for the DEs anyway. And i'm thinking that maybe Sirius was using James' wand... I dunno just a thought... but yes an excellent question, where do they get those wands??? Maybe it's just one of those things we're just supposed to accept.

This is a very intresting topic! I think that there would of been numerous ways for them to get them in the first place. I like the idea of using victims wands

This ties in with the Ollivander theory. I was a little stumped about his abduction but this helps me see a little bit clearer. Possibly he was already a Death Eater or they abducted him to get wands for all the DE's. ( See the Ollivander thread.)

But I wonder if Gregorovich is a DE. He is Bulgarian, presumably like Karkaroff, and he is one of the other known wand makers. He made Krum's wand and that leads me to wonder were Durmstrang students get their supplies. Malfoy said that they teach the Dark Arts at Durmstrang so maybe Gregorovich makes a "differnt" type of wand. But I doubt that Durmstrang students are being trained to become DE's because I am almost positive that Karkaroff had no contact with Voldemort. Then again we don't even know if Durmstrang is in Bulgaria. Just because Krum plays for the national team.

Back to the point, my other theory is that there are probably so many other wand makers that Voldemort could of placed a mass order of competent wands from somewere like Russia or some other place. We learned that almost every country in the world has their own wizarding establishment. I know that Voldemort is at large all over the world but some places might be oblivious to all of his powers. It would be so easy to get certain supplies at certain countries.

Whew!

I have to disagree with a mass order by Voldemort. Seems like that would just tip people off, you know. Someone's ordering a mass of wands? For what purpose? Who is it? I just think this would have been too obvious for Voldemort.

I might agree with the Ollivander theory. (Was it determined that he was abducted, or did he maybe run away? I really need to reread HBP!)

I also thought that perhaps Malfoy, as a wealthy and prominent wizard, would have the access and resources to gather wands to distribute upon the return of Lord Voldemort.

As far as Peter, he didn't have a wand. When he transformed in PoA, he used Harry's wand (I believe, it might have been one of the other's, possibly Lupin's?) As far as I can tell, he used Voldemort's wand upon his return to the Dark Lord, so that would make me think that Voldemort had a place where it had been hidden upon his demise. Which would also make me think that he had the other DE's that were with him pick up his wand and hide it.

azkaban as far as i know do not destroy the wands of death eaters.

i do not know why of course but i think they should but when they escape they take the wands. and murder the gaurds (ouch) and escape.

Okay now this has always confused me... how do Death Eaters and Voldemort get wands? Like okay, originally, they went and bought them like normal people, but then, when they go to Azkaban don't they get taken away? Like Sirius, they definatley didn't let him keep his wand in Azkaban and i doubt they would just keep it around, they'd have it destroyed. But then in OOtP, he has a wand...it's not like he can just go out and buy one. Same with Bellatrix, Lucius, and all those other ones. And Voldemort? Come on, the MoM isn't so stupid that they would search the ruins and find and destroy Voldemort's wand?

Hmm.... that's a good question, I'm thinking that people like Mr. Malfoy could just go and buy a new one, or that they hid their wands before they went to Azkaban. Who knows.

in sirius' case I'm not sure how he got a wand but.... he helped in that battle and that's what matters

right?

im pretty sure the death eaters wands were taken by loved ones so that they could be returned upon departure from azkaban.
also, someone once told me that bellatrix may have gone to the ruins to help voldy out and got his wand. other sources say wormtail had come with to the potters house and once everyone was dead, went in and got voldys wand just in case. something like that
sirius's wand i have no idea about. maybe he stole it off an unfortunate kid.

I agree. I think Sirius' parents would have taken his wand ( if they weren't already dead ), or Lupin or Dumbledore would have kept it for him.

Very good point. Although, seeing as how they're Death Eaters, they'll probably go to any lengths to get a wand, or like others said: their family members might have kept it. It's also hard to think how 10 Death Eaters broke out without wands in the first place, because i don't know how they could get off and island of Dementors without one wand at least. hmm...

Well.. If they had taken wands from others would the wands have still performed for them as their own wands would. Ollivander stated in DH that the wand would become yours depending on the manner it was taken. If the wand had been won its allegiance would change. "The wand chooses the wizard. The best results, however, must always come where there is the strongest affinity between wizard and wand." If this is true then the wands would work for them if they had been won, but wouldn't work as well if they had a collection of wands from previous wizard deaths. This coming from Ollivander, maybe other wand makers make their wands differently and will align with the new user more successfully.
*Hopefully, all of this made sense and it doesn't seem like complete rambling.

I see what you're saying, they definitely wouldn't have worked as good. Although, we are talking about Death Eaters who, as long as they have a wand, would still have to do their master's bidding. But i'm sure they would have prefered their own. Still, you have a good point.