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fighting-this-war
Oh now come on!! Arthur and Molly are one of the cutest couples in HP History!

Honeybee
I agree. I thought it was really cute and funny how he calls her Mollywobbles in HBP.
fighting-this-war
I know that's one of my favourite scenes in HBP. I really hope it's included in the film! We need more A/M scenes in Films.
Just the Droobles
Hi there!

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Moon(I luv you Luna)
I love Molly and Arthur. Like seriously, they are the greatest. How they love each other so much (hello, they have seven kids) and how they've stuck by each other throughout the seven years of the series (and more than that, of course).

Plus how they met at Hogwarts, i find that great how they've known each other for so long. biggrin.gif

And the fact that it's canon!

Now to help this thread along ... questions!

How do Arthur and Molly help each other with the loss of Fred? Which one of them takes his death the hardest?

How did Molly and Arthur help in the war during DH? Did Arthur approve of his wife fighting (not that he could've stopped her, of course)?

What was Arthur's reaction to Molly's duel with Bellatrix?

Are they dreading the day Ron and Ginny move out and they are all alone, or do they look forward to having the house to themselves?

Who got in more trouble at Hogwarts?


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Ginny.Weasley
Moon I love your way of saying things, especially the "hello they have seven kids." Anyway, I completely agree, Molly and Arthur are a cute couple. In a way they seem like complete opposites, he being more laid-back and she being the uptight mother, but they fit perfectly and they raise their kids very well with excellent morals.

I think that Arthur's reaction to Molly battling Bellatrix would have been something like; "Oh no she'll never last" to "wow, look at my baby go." Or something along those lines. He would be thinking that she would need his help, but in the end she proves that she can handle things.

As for who got into more trouble at Hogwarts, I actually think it might've been Molly. She seems way too innocent about things in the books, and yet she knows everything about Fred and George's schemes. It just looks like maybe she was wild back in the day, but then grew up as she got older and filled the motherly role to be who she is today. And with her fiery temper I could just picture her getting into more trouble! Arthur strikes me as the more timid student, in any case.

Their relationship is so solid and never once have they ever wavered from their commitment. Their relationship is a model to everyone, and it feels like the one solid ground throughout the series in terms of parenting. All the other parental figures that Harry has known throughout his life have left him, but Molly and Arthur have always been there.

I hope that after the war was over, they settled down and had a nice retirement! wink.gif

--x Lauren
Harry James Potter
Ahh yes, Molly and Arthur are a great couple. When she told her story about being caught by the caretaker in the fourth book, it definitely sealed the deal on that perfect couple.

- I think they take the loss like any other couple. They are devastated and at a complete loss for words. I would like to think that they are proud of the manner in which their son died, a fighting hero. But are still saddened a great deal by his death. I think that Molly would take it harder. If you remember her reaction in the fourth book. She always got on their cases and might regret that as she reflects on her relationship with the twins. However, both must be greiving close to the same, which is a lot.

-They provided moral support, information from within the ministry (for a tiny amount of time). They also provided a place to go to when in need. They have always taken care of HQ to make sure the Order has somewhere to retreat to. Without them the Order would be lost. As for his wife fighting. I think Arthur would be very proud and supportive of his wife defending the family.

-I think he probably was a bit shocked that she took on such a strong opponent, but also had faith (and of course was scared for her life). He was most likely ready to jump in at a moments notice.

-I think it'll be abittersweet moment for the two of them. It'll be lonely compared to a full house. however, I'm sure they will also appreciate the alone time.

-Arthur. From the sounds of it, he didn't get along with the caretaker back then, so he must've been getting into trouble.
Moon(I luv you Luna)
Thanks, Ginny.Weasley! I agree with you that Molly would probably have been in more trouble at school just a bit more than Arthur. Your right in how she seems to know everything that Fred and George are up to. She must've learnt it somehow. laugh.gif I can imagine Molly and Arthur meeting for the first time in a detention.

During the duel, i'd say Arthur was completely scared (y'know, the kind o scared that only happens when something really big happens-you start shaking and have to sit down kind o scared). He feared that she'd die, and probably felt it when they all thought Voldemort was going to get her (when she got Bella of course). He was probably thanking Harry so much for saving her.

After, he'd probably be all 'What on earth did you think you were doing?!' but on the inside, be very proud like you've all said. happy.gif
Ginny.Weasley
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I can imagine Molly and Arthur meeting for the first time in a detention.

I could definitely see that happening. I'm a fan of irony which is why I said that it was likely that Molly got into more trouble. When she learns about Fred and George's tricks she sometimes gets mad, but if I remember correctly, in the very first book she tell the boys not to send a Hogwarts toilet seat. Wouldn't it be funny if it was something she had done as a student?

But Harry James Potter I can also see your point of thinking it could be Arthur. After all, he is the one who seems more supportive of the boys silliness and jokes and he wasn't upset when he found out about the flying car incident in CoS. Of course that reaction might've been just because he built it, but in any case he is definitely the more laid-back of the two. I still stick with Molly though on this one! smile.gif

--x Lauren
Moon(I luv you Luna)
QUOTE(Ginny.Weasley)
When she learns about Fred and George's tricks she sometimes gets mad, but if I remember correctly, in the very first book she tell the boys not to send a Hogwarts toilet seat. Wouldn't it be funny if it was something she had done as a student?


You know, Lauren, i wouldn't be suprised if she had done it before. I believe Fred (or George) said they send it to Ginny (and attamepted to send one to Harry in the Hospital Wing) and Molly ripremanded them. She might've mentioned it in passing once, and Fred and George said it to be funny? Ah well. It made Ginny laugh.

All right, question: How do you think Molly and Arthur met at Hogwarts?

I don't think they were in the same year, i think i want to go with the metting in detention theory. One of Molly's tricks branched out too far, and poor old Arthur Weasley got sucked in to a detention with Molly Prewett (oh no). But they came out getting to know each other. happy.gif
Harry James Potter
I agree with Molly and Arthur meeting in detention. For some odd reason I put Arthur a year or two ahead of Molly and (in my view), Arthur being the more rebellious one was in one of his regular detentions when Molly came along for one of them. They bonded and became good friends, dated, etc.
Ginny.Weasley
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I don't think they were in the same year, i think i want to go with the metting in detention theory. One of Molly's tricks branched out too far, and poor old Arthur Weasley got sucked in to a detention with Molly Prewett (oh no). But they came out getting to know each other.


I could definitely see this happening. Molly Prewett in detention for a prank, and Arthur Weasley, in detention for doing something to a Muggle object and it didn't work right or something? Aha, it would be funny. I would bet that they knew each other right from Molly's first year (I'm thinking that Arhur is older) and hit it off right away. Nevertheless, their love is really quite sweet. smile.gif

Do you think their parents approved of each other's choice in spouse?

If Molly was the jokester and as we know Arthur was obssessed with Muggle things, do you think their parents would approve?

--x Lauren
Harry James Potter
I think they definitely approved of each other's spouses. Think about it...the Prewetts had an accountant muggle relative on their side. And the Weasley family was the biggest blood traitors there ever were. I think they would have been happy with anyone, no matter who they are. That's what makes them the Weasleys!
Ginny.Weasley
QUOTE(Harry James Potter @ Jul 2 2008, 01:16 AM) [snapback]517602[/snapback]

I think they definitely approved of each other's spouses. Think about it...the Prewetts had an accountant muggle relative on their side. And the Weasley family was the biggest blood traitors there ever were. I think they would have been happy with anyone, no matter who they are. That's what makes them the Weasleys!


I like to think that way, that their parents would have approved of each other. But you never know with families, you think they'll do one thing and then they turn around and do the opposite. But I do think that they approved of each other, there isn't any mention of a family squabble at Bill and Fleur's wedding and it seemed like everyone showed up. Of course, times have changed and the Prewett's had suffered a lot of losses what with Gideon and Fabian dying way back when. (I think they both died unsure.gif ) So it's possible that maybe at some point the families had squabbled or something but learned to get over it because really, life's just too short.

But I hope this isn't the case. I like to think that the families always got along. happy.gif

--x Lauren
DeSs
Wow, great thread! I can't believe nobody had posted it before!

How do Arthur and Molly help each other with the loss of Fred? Which one of them takes his death the hardest?

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- I think they take the loss like any other couple. They are devastated and at a complete loss for words. I would like to think that they are proud of the manner in which their son died, a fighting hero. But are still saddened a great deal by his death. I think that Molly would take it harder. If you remember her reaction in the fourth book. She always got on their cases and might regret that as she reflects on her relationship with the twins. However, both must be greiving close to the same, which is a lot.

I couldn't say it better. I think they were devastated by Fred's loss. Molly must have been who most showed it, because Arthur is a very quiet person, and I think he was who supported and comfort her despite he was destroyed inside. I think it had to gone by a long time for her to calm down. Everyone of their children were as valuable as their own lifes.

How did Molly and Arthur help in the war during DH? Did Arthur approve of his wife fighting (not that he could've stopped her, of course)? What was Arthur's reaction to Molly's duel with Bellatrix?

I think he felt extremely proud of his wife fighting for such a god cause, despite he'd think she didn't deserved to have spoiled her sould by murdering Bellatrix, but on the other hand, they were very destroyed. Maybe Arthur tried to stop her, but you know how it's, Molly is most of times who wears the pants.

Are they dreading the day Ron and Ginny move out and they are all alone, or do they look forward to having the house to themselves?

Maybe at the beggining, but then it will come the children and I assume the house won't be alone, because as they're very familiar, Mrs Weasley would want to take care of the kids when their parents are working or something. I even thought that she could have taught them instead of sending the kids to a muggle school, I mean, because the Weasleys were raised like that and maybe Hermione and Harry rather prefered that, being the Muggle raised part, I mean.

Well, I'll answer the questions left later wink.gif
Ginny.Weasley
QUOTE(DeSs)
Maybe Arthur tried to stop her, but you know how it's, Molly is most of times who wears the pants.


Molly wears the pants just about all the time! laugh.gif That's one of the things that I love about Molly and Arthur, they seem a lot like my family (besides the whole having 7 kids business of course). They're really down-to-earth and they keep their kids grounded. They don't care about what "class" they are, money wise or blood wise which nice to read about.

Are they dreading the day Ron and Ginny move out and they are all alone, or do they look forward to having the house to themselves?

I didn't answer this one before. blink.gif I think Molly will be broken up, sobbing, the whole bit. It's just her mothering way. Arthur might be sad but I think he'll be able to handle himself better. Then after they leave I assume that Molly will popping in all the time to see her kids wherever they may be and eventually it will just become a pattern. I think they'll get used to it. But I think right now, tears is the most likely reaction.

--x Lauren
DeSs
How do you think Molly and Arthur met at Hogwarts?

Weee, that detention idea is great! Besides, the twins had to get after somebody their love to pranks and Arthur doesn't look like that kind ... so Molly was the pranker! tongue.gif
Bless them; I remember she told Hermione and Ginny about a love potion she had made when younger ... well that says everything ... love potions and strictly controlled!
And about how Filch did with poor Arthur when he was caught, on one of their dates ... I bet she was like "Ooh, but it'd be a shame if we go back so early, don't you think? Moon is so beautiful, you know ... let's stay!"

A question ...
Do you think Molly was who taught their grandsons, I mean, would Hermione, Ginny, Fleur, AUdrey, Angelina, want she teach them at home instead of sending them to a muggle school?
Ginny.Weasley
Hmm interesting question DeSs. I think Molly's kids would've have liked her to teach their kids, it just seems natural. Also, I would like to think that all the grandkids would get along just like Ginny and Ron's kids do. Of course, unless Molly was enjoying a retirement with Arthur, then that wouldn't work. But I think that maybe Molly would teach her grandkids.

So it's been so quiet lately! Everyone is gone. Here's some questions that might spark a little interest.

Why do you think Molly and Arthur had so many kids? Was is because they simply liked kids? Was it because they lived in dangerous times and were afraid to lose all their kids in the war (With this I'm thinking similar to the old times when farmers had many kids to help with the work)? Or possibly because they simply loved each other so much and hadn't really thought about the fact that they'd have kids?

Do you think any of the Weasley kids is similar to their parents? If so, why is that?

What motivated Molly and Arthur to join the Order?


I'll start with those for now. Let's see if we can get the ball rolling!

--x Lauren
Harry James Potter
Thank you for getting this thread going again Ginny.Weasley smile.gif


Why do you think Molly and Arthur had so many kids? Was is because they simply liked kids? Was it because they lived in dangerous times and were afraid to lose all their kids in the war (With this I'm thinking similar to the old times when farmers had many kids to help with the work)? Or possibly because they simply loved each other so much and hadn't really thought about the fact that they'd have kids?


I think that the simply liked kids and were deeply in love. With that combination in massive quantities, couples can definitely be seen with many kids. I think they just liked the idea of having kids, and have you ever thought of them having a couple kids and not getting a girl. So they decided to have more kids until they got a girl. I know some people do that, because they want at least a boy and a girl.


Do you think any of the Weasley kids is similar to their parents? If so, why is that?


I think that Bill and Charlie are very much like Arthur. Maybe not in his obsession with muggles but in his views, maturity, and morales. Arthur is very well-rounded and always stands up for his beliefs no matter what pressure he's under. That is the same for Bill and Charlie. Also, Arthur is very mature and Bill and Charlie are, by far, the most mature of the Weasley kids.


What motivated Molly and Arthur to join the Order?



I think one reason was their morales. They knew which side they stood for and knew how to help. So they did the honorable thing and joined the OotP. However, I really think that Harry played an even bigger part. He not only was a role model for the fight against LV and happened o very close to them, thus they followed him in the fight. But more specifically, he brought Ron into the fight. And I don't think Molly and Arthur were prepared to let their youngest son fight Lord Vodlemort and help out the Order while sitting back and watching.


-Nick
HJP

DeSs
Let's bring this thread up again!

Why do you think Molly and Arthur had so many kids? Was is because they simply liked kids? Was it because they lived in dangerous times and were afraid to lose all their kids in the war (With this I'm thinking similar to the old times when farmers had many kids to help with the work)? Or possibly because they simply loved each other so much and hadn't really thought about the fact that they'd have kids?

I think they really liked kids, and loved to have a big family. Thinking in having lots of children so as not to lose them would be senseless, I reckon. I just think that they were used to big, wizarding families, and they loved each other, and didn't care about the money but thought that family was really important. Yes, maybe they didn't realise they were having many kids til they had to ut a stop! laugh.gif No, but I believe they just loved kids, that's all.

Do you think any of the Weasley kids is similar to their parents? If so, why is that?

I agree in that Bill and Charlie are similar to Arthur. They were very mature and responsible; Bill formed a family soon and raised a home, both had good works, and both fought whenever they were needed. Then I believe Fred and George had to take after one of their parents at least, and ... hum, I think it's Molly tongue.gif And Ginny turned out to be a good mum, I'm sure, and Molly taught her happy.gif

What motivated Molly and Arthur to join the Order?

Well, Molly had lost her brothers, and they had principles, so maybe they thought that if they wanted to raise a big family, they needed a safe world, and they had to get it fighting.

I'm going to think in new questions!
Moon(I luv you Luna)
Molly and Arthur i'm assuming just liked kids. My guess is that they always planne don having a family, but never really counted on it getting so big. biggrin.gif The war just helped them realise that if they ever want a family, now's the time, because they might not get another chance.

I can imagine Molly always secretly rooting for a girl, and having "Ginervra" picked out since Bill was born. She never thinks she has to use it, until she wonders why kid number seven looks different. rolleyes.gif

QUOTE(Dess)
What motivated Molly and Arthur to join the Order?
Well, Molly had lost her brothers, and they had principles, so maybe they thought that if they wanted to raise a big family, they needed a safe world, and they had to get it fighting.


Dess, i agree. That and the fact that Arthur and Molly are just good-hearted people. They would do what's right, even though Molly was frightened at the thought of losing her family.

This reminds me-we know Arthur and molly were in the Order during the Second war, but in the First war, we know Molly wasn't in it, due to Remus saying in OotP, something along the lines of "You wern't in the order then, Molly, you don't know what it was like". So, question: Why wasn't Molly in the Order during the First War? Did Arthur decide it wasn't safe for her? Did she pull herself out to look after the kids?

I think the first is more likely. Molly wouldn't want to look after the kids like an Army-Wife, wondering if her husband will come homw. She'd want to be out there doing something, so of course Arthur would have to put down a few ground rules. happy.gif
harryjpotter
Yes they are so sweet^^ It's almost a kind of humorous thing that Molly is plump whereas Arthur is skinny and it really fits that they both have flaming red hair. I reckon Molly always persuaded Arthur to keep having children until they got Ginny. While Molly loves her children all equally, like many mothers I know, she desired a girl so strongly that Arthur saw how much it meant to her.
Hermod
I am pretty sure that Arthur was always in trouble at school for trying borderline experiments.

A Bill's wedding where Harry is disguised as "Cousin Barny" with red hair, Muriel's dismissive "another Weasley" sort of gives the impression that the Prewetts felt that Molly was marrying 'beneath her" in eloping with Arthur. Remember the twin's description of Uncle Bilius and his antics.

Given the great amount of 'smother love" which Molly is capable of, I am surpirsed that she wasn't at Platform 9-3/4 to see her grandchildren off to school in the epilogue of DH.

PirateGirl
I don't care so much about Arthur/Molly and James/Lily and pairings like that. (It's more fun to ship the teenagers... lol XD) But I have to admit, I think Arthur/Molly is really cute. It's like the only canon ship I like XD. (No... I don't like James/Lily... but that's because James and his friends bullied Snape.) And also, if it wasn't Arthur/Molly there would be no Ron, no Gred and Forge 8DDD, no Percy, no Bill, no Charlie and no Ginny.
Aneekers
I think that they look cute together. I wonder how they met. I agree it is funner to SHIP teenagers but this is still cool.
Hermod
QUOTE(Aneekers @ Apr 17 2009, 04:31 PM) [snapback]567018[/snapback]

I think that they look cute together. I wonder how they met. I agree it is funner to SHIP teenagers but this is still cool.


How did they meet? They were classmates at school.

Think of Molly as figuratively a giant mammary gland. Arthur was somewhat inept and needed mothering so Molly fell for him. Molly smotherloved him all the way through the books.

Molly needed lots and lots of kids to smotherlove, so she had seven of them. Harry Potter badly needed a mother, so Molly virtually adopted him.
FollowTheSpiders
Well, who doesn't think that Molly and Arthur should be together? They are so much alike and although they do fight (not often), they still love each other in the end. They are both odd and loveable and caring.
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