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Harry James Potter
Okay, so now that the whole series is overwith and we've been able to get a grasp on what has come to a close and what happens 19 years from now. I wanted to reflect on the man who really made this whole world possible...Lord Voldemort. So I have a few questions that can be answered in this thread and hopefully it can spread into more and more discussions about Lord Voldemort.

1- What do you think Lord Voldemort's main weaknesses were and why? Was it just that he couldn't love or were there other weaknessess that really lead to his demise?

2- What were his strengths? Did he have any strengths besides the massive knowledge of magic?

3- What would you change about him? Anything? A lot of things?

4- Was Lord Voldemort's quest to find the Hallows a correct decision by him? Or did that help lead to his demise?

5- If Lord Voldemort was never killed by Harry and no one could kill him. Would he live forever because his sould is split so many times?




Personally, I feel that one of his weaknessess was that he could not love and by now most people (including JKR and Dumbledore) have explained that one very well. However, I also feel that he was weak in his quest for strength.

LV wanted to become so powerful that by doing what he did, he made himself weaker. He left his soul unprotected except for some jinxes and protective curses; which if the right wizard came along, could be broken (as proven by Dumbledore and Harry). I feel that when LV made the decision to split his soul he was sealing his fate in that he would eventually be vanquished.

As for his strengths, I feel that his one and only strength besides his magical ability was the fact that he was able to stay hidden when in power and out of power. And I don't mean physically hidden but (for lack of better word) socially hidden from the wizarding community for a whole year. Also the fact that he was able to take over the ministry without altering the whole of the wizarding world.

I personally wouldn't change anything about him. I think he was a perfect villian and an excellent character in the Harry Potter series.

I think his decision was a waste of time for him and ultimately killed him in the end. If he kept on focusing his efforts on Harry he would have killed him and not given him the chance to gain control of the Elder Wand, and the ring (which helped Harry kill part of LV's soul).

The last question I don't know about. I honestly want to know whether or not you guys think he would've been immortal. Or whether his life span would have been incredibly long.

Anywho, let's get a really good thread going for Lord Voldemort...literature's best villain.
kiwi
1. His main weekness would have to be love. If had have known the emotion he would have understood his enemies alot greater but had he known the emotion would he have been so evil ?????

2. Voldemorts knowledge of magic is indeed his greatest strength. I mean he learnt to fly
without a broomstick and could hide from whoever whenever.

i think you may have missed one of his greatest strenghts that allowed him to become
so evil. his ability not to show any emotion when dealing with his followers or death eaters.
he is able to curse them and torture them and not give a stuff whether any die with the exception of bellatrix as she was his best fighter remaining. this allowed him to not worry if the death eaters needed help and he would continue to pursue his quests of dominance and evil.

3. Wouldnt change anything about him, maybe just the scene where he died would have like to have read a longer battle sequence.

4. If voldemort had have left the hallows it would have been easier for Harry not that he knew harry knew of them.

5. i think Voldemort would have lived for a very long time but i dont think he would have been immortal. there were so many other great wizards and witches out there opposing his stance within the maggical world. Certainly if the prophecy remained true and Harry was the only one capable of killing LV than he would certaintly look for a way of living forever. Although just because harry was the only individual capable of kiling LV does not mean he can't be defeated. He may get defeated and imprisoned but who knows harry got him yeah yeah
dumbledore the great wizard
1 - Voldemort's main weakness was obviously not being able to love or not understanding the power of love. Also he was very short-tempered and acted without thoroughly first thinking about the consequences.

2 - He was certainly a very gifted and extremely talented wizard who could perform great magic. But he also had a great brain and made great plans, for his own benefit. He also had a very appealing personality and could persuade people to reveal their secrets in front of them. He certainly could hide his emotions but i think his horrendous past about his parents and the orphanage had taught him no emotions and he had no other feeling other than power and anger.

3 - I would like to change nothing about Voldemort. He was perfect and had a near to perfect ending.Could have had a longer battle with harry like the one with Dumbledore in Ootp.

4 - He actually knew nothing about the Hallows except for the elder wand just like Ollivander. His quest in finding the wand certainly led to his demise. His dead could have been postponed if he had not gone after the wand but he would certainly have died due to the fact that harry was after the hallows.

5 - Yes, in my opinion voldemort would have lived forever if harry or no one had been able to finish him. He certainly couldn't die a normal death as he had split his soul and made himself immortal. He would have lived forever only when harry, ron and hermoine died before telling someone else about the horcruxes. If the information was passed to someone he could be killed but without that information killing him would have required another Dumbledore. But the prophecy stated that harry would kill him(indirectly) and so he did. Harry couldn't die without killing Voldemort!
True Gryffindor Girl
1. I think his weaknesses were that he never understood and underestimated the power of love and that he liked power too much.

2. I think one of his greatest strengths was his power and his knowledge of magic and also that he was very clever.

3. Nothing, really. Just that they had used more magic in the last battle.

4. It helped lead to his demise because Harry knew he had the Elder Wand and he went after him.

5. Maybe he could have been killed if someone else knew about the Horcruxes and destroyed them before they tried to kill him.
kiwi
I was just wondering in relation to if LV could be defeated had Harry died along with Ron
and hermione. Didn't proffessor Slughorn already know about LV use of horcruxes. Wasn't
he the one that told the young Tom Riddle about them. Hadn't he appologised to DD for
telling tom riddle about them and he had no idea that he intended to use them he thought
he was just curious. Therefore if Slughorn knew of the Horcruxes he could have informed the Hogwarts teachers and there would be another chance of defeating LV..... just a thought
HJP/HJG_TrueLove
1. I think Voldemort's main weakness was his over confidence in his horcruxes, death eaters, and his own ability as a duelist. He is arguably the most powerful wizard ever and Dumbledore himself said that Voldemort was probably the most brilliant student Hogwarts ever had. Voldemort thought his powers had no limit and all his horcruxes could not be destroyed.

2. Voldemort's massive knowledge and the resource available to him were his greatest strengths.

3. I would make him a good guy because Dumbledore and Voldemort working together would have been incredible. But of course then there wouldn't be any books so no I wouldnt change anything about him.

4. I think his overconfidence in his horcruxes led to his demise not the hallows search although that may have been a factor.

5. I think eventually someone else would come along and take out the horcruxes and kill him if anyone around would be willing to fight or if any decent people were still around.
Radcliffefreek


1- What do you think Lord Voldemort's main weaknesses were and why? Was it just that he couldn't love or were there other weaknessess that really lead to his demise?

His greatest weakness, as I think is his over confidence in believing that he was immortal and that no one can defet him..unlike you all, I dont think his greatest weakness was not believing in love...yes, it was a weakness but not greatest.


2- What were his strengths? Did he have any strengths besides the massive knowledge of magic?

Strenghts, I think his cleverness and his thrist for power and becoming immortal..and of course, his immence knoleadge of not magaic but "Dark Magic".

3- What would you change about him? Anything? A lot of things?

4- Was Lord Voldemort's quest to find the Hallows a correct decision by him? Or did that help lead to his demise?

I would like to point it out, that he was not looking for the Hallows but only the Elder Wand. As he didnt know about the Deathly Hallows, his quest was only for the Elder Wand..

Anyways, coming to the point, no..his discission to gain the Elder Wand was not correct, if he wished, he could have defeted Harry by his own old methods...frankly I see no way of how he could have done that to "The Boy Who Lived"..

5- If Lord Voldemort was never killed by Harry and no one could kill him. Would he live forever because his sould is split so many times?


QUOTE(kiwi @ Jun 13 2008, 09:35 AM) [snapback]513601[/snapback]

I was just wondering in relation to if LV could be defeated had Harry died along with Ron
and hermione. Didn't proffessor Slughorn already know about LV use of horcruxes. Wasn't
he the one that told the young Tom Riddle about them. Hadn't he appologised to DD for
telling tom riddle about them and he had no idea that he intended to use them he thought
he was just curious. Therefore if Slughorn knew of the Horcruxes he could have informed the Hogwarts teachers and there would be another chance of defeating LV..... just a thought


As, Kiwi here, sugessted, Slughorn would have told about the horcurxes to The Order... though, Harry might have destroyed 2 or 3 of them... I am sure, The Order would have succeded in destroying Voldemort and his Horcruxes...but it would have been difficult for the Order to do so, with the Ministry not cooperating with them...
Nasuada
1- I think he was just too over confident in himself. He didn't think he could be defeated. He never understood love and I think he was afraid of it. He never had true friendships. If someone did something he didn't like, he just killed them. So when he saw true friends working together, I think it actually frightened him, because he knew nothing about it.

2- Even though he was evil and his plans didn't always work, he was smart. He also thrived on hatred. When he saw someone being hateful of something or something, it made him happy.

3- No, I don't think I would. There always is a bad guy and he's pretty bad.

4- His quest to find the Hallows might have been a part of it, but it was mainly his over confidence in his horcruxes.

5- He probably would have still been around for a long time, I think that eventually someone would have done the job if Harry hadn't. Maybe one of his death eaters, I don't know. But he still would have been killed.
Harry James Potter
Hmm...yeah, I still think that Voldemort's main weakness was his love for "famous" artifacts dealing with the four founders of Hogwarts and mainly...his arrogance in his superiority. For example, he hid his horcruxes in places he enver thought people (other than himself) were smart enough to reach (Gaunts Shack, the cave, the come-and-go room).
nicky potter
1- What do you think Lord Voldemort's main weaknesses were and why? Was it just that he couldn't love or were there other weaknessess that really lead to his demise?

Some of Voldemorts weaknesses would be that he never looks at the small details nor the bigger picture. If that made any sense. & asides from love that had him end up where he did I think that understanding was another thing. He came across to me as stubborn.

2- What were his strengths? Did he have any strengths besides the massive knowledge of magic?
He did have a knack for thinking smarter than others. I will say coming up for plans like he did arent that easy either but they fail because he's too stubborn. One thing that I reall admire about him is that he goe after what he wants & nothing stops him. He's persistent.


3- What would you change about him? Anything? A lot of things?

Of course I'd change something about him. I would much rather have had him to not be so curious when it came to power.


4- Was Lord Voldemort's quest to find the Hallows a correct decision by him? Or did that help lead to his demise?

Personally I think that led him to his demise. Well the reason for finding the Hallows were. I mean Harry went out looking for it to stop him. Not becuase he wanted to be powerful. & the way that he tried to get there, kill anyone in his way, take Dumbldores want right out of his tomb, that was so wrong on many levels.


5- If Lord Voldemort was never killed by Harry and no one could kill him. Would he live forever because his sould is split so many times?

Wow that's actually sort of hard to say. I think that he would but eventually everything comes to an end one way or another. So he would end up dieing regardless becuase he just has too. Really good question this was.
nadadurr0
1- What do you think Lord Voldemort's main weaknesses were and why? Was it just that he couldn't love or were there other weaknessess that really lead to his demise?

His main weakness (according to me) was that he was scared that someone might overthrow him and thus sorted to his evil ways of controlling others. Dumbledore, at the end of book 5, says beautifully that tyrants always fear the people they oppress.....thats what happened to him. But I think he couldn't love because he didn't receive any from his parents when he was a kid. We see that a lot even in real life. Harry also didn't receive love from his guardians. But it once again shows the choices that the two greatest wizards made.

2- What were his strengths? Did he have any strengths besides the massive knowledge of magic?

His was smart and intelligent. He knew to persuade others and he had a cunning brains. But he used all of these for wrong purposes.

3- What would you change about him? Anything? A lot of things?

I would change his childhood because that is the most important phase for anybody which shapes anyone's life.

4- Was Lord Voldemort's quest to find the Hallows a correct decision by him? Or did that help lead to his demise?

He didn't want to possess all the three. In fact, he didn't have any knowledge about the hallows. All he needed was the elder wand not because it was a hallow but because it was the most powerful wand ever. Of course, it lead to his demise because of all the history behind the master of the wand. But it was just a chance. I think he would've been destroyed even otherwise by Harry.

5- If Lord Voldemort was never killed by Harry and no one could kill him. Would he live forever because his sould is split so many times?

Nope. No evil can exist forever in the world. Good will always triumph the evil. That is the law of nature. Moreover, his splitting of his soul didn't render him powerful, rather, his soul unstable that he would've definitely died.
Pendulum
Number 5 is a very interesting point indeed. It is like two impossiblilties colliding.
On the one hand, we see that nothing goes on forever, NOTHING at all. So it would surely be impossible for Voldemort to live forever.
However, on the other hand, we see that only the chosen one can vanquish the Dark Lord, so unless a true prophecy is somehow wrong (which, to my knowledge, is impossible) then we have ourselves a dilemma. Luckily enough Harry does manage to vanquish Voldemort, so we aren't left with these difficult questions. It's the same kind of question as: does the universe go on forever? Impossible in both ways.
I guess the only way to fulfill both impossibilities is that Voldemort dies when earth dies. I doubt that he could survive if in a hundred years time the earth is hit by a comet and obliterates everything. That way his horcruxes would also be destroyed, meaning that he doesn't live forever, but is also not vanquished by anyone other than the chosen one.
Looks like i've maybe read too much into this, but i'm interested to hear what you think.
melkor
His strengths would be his skill in battle, and some of his weaknesses would be that he underestimated significant power in things such as love and wisdom. If he had asked Bellatrix to see if harry was dead at the end of DH in the forest, he would have been victorious. but fourtenately, he did not.
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