i dont know if this was ever posted before but hopefully not..i checked and didnt see any others....what if our dear hermione grangeer is the character close to harry who dies????? i know you may be like no! shes way to important, she cant die! shes going to be with harry till the end! but jk said that in POA it hinted to things that may happen in the 6th book...proffessor tralawney says while holding hermiones palm "you are young in years" is this hinting to her death????

im pretty sure the character that JKR was talking about was sirius cause he does die in OoP unless you havent read that book

yes i have read the 5th book, its perfecly wonderful..however i was talkin about the statement jk made about the 6th book, "someone close to harry will die"

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I really hope Hermione doesn't die! I mean she's stuck by Harry this far... well it would be a good twist. No don't think that way!...

I guess it is possible, but I don't see a lot of proof or foreshadowing for it to happen.

yes this is all true, it is possible that this is what she means but why would traalawny be telling hermine shes young, she already knows this.....she was reading her palm..divinaiton is unlocking the future, not reading the past....(i think lol, u probly could read the past..but uh i think she meant her future)

i thought the character that dies was sirius

ues sirius does die as i am so often reminded..so sad!..but im refering to the comment jk said the "someone close to harry is going to die" that comment...relating to rumours of the 6th book.

i dont think that JK would kill her off, shes way to important in the trio. however what you say makes it possible. it would be unexpected and would be kinda like sirius's death. great thought!

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YES and isnt it so much like JK to do something surprising...in her interveiw on the POA dvd she says, "He hinted to things, it was kinda scary".

I suppose there's a possibility that Hermione dies in either Book Six or Book Seven... After all, she is Muggle-born, and we know that Voldemort hates 'Mudbloods.' Also, since she is close to Harry, all the more reason to knock her off... she's too loyal to give Voldemort any information, and we already know that when Harry is in an emotional state it is easier for the Dark Lord to see into his thoughts. I suppose that killing Hermione would make Harry emotional, all right, but so would the death of a good number of characters...

I remember reading in an interview with J.K. Rowling (I don't exactly remember which one it was... the DVD perhaps? Or maybe an earlier one...) where Rowling commented that readers are more concerned about Ron's prospects than Hermione's. She said that readers thought of Hermione as somewhat 'invincible' and wanted to dispel them of the notion, I believe. Well, we know that Hermione isn't entirely invincible (see her boggart), but I definitely think it's true that the majority of Harry Potter fans think it is more likely that Ron will be killed than Hermione. Then again, that could be less because we think Hermione is invincible than because there is pretty good evidence out there that Ron could be killed while none of us can really think of any good foreshadowing for Hermione's death. All the same, I'm sure that Rowling would be proud of us for stopping to give the matter some thought...

I personally don't think that Rowling will kill off any of the trio... whatever she says about Harry Potter 'not being a children's series,' I think it would be pretty morbid of her to murder one of the kid protagonists no matter who her audience is!

i quietly considered the possibility of hermione being killed off in the later books. i don't want it to happen though. it wouldn't really surprise me, there's something about her . . .

yes..Ron is thought of to die before Hermione, but honestly did you see sirius's death coming??? what more of jks stile to kill off the "invincible"...some thought sirius was invincible, he did escape dementors!! hmm i really hope she doesnt die though, but its still a possibility!!

I don't think JK will kill off Hermione, in book 5 Harry looses Sirius and he will probably spend much of book 6 mourning his death and so not leave too much room for the Humor which was in the previous books (particularly the first three). If hermione was to die in the next too books he would probably be more depressed than when he lost Sirius and (as Hermione and Ron and the Weasleys are in many respects Harry's family, just like Sirius)
At least I hope JK doesn't Kill off Hermione as She is definitly one of my favourite major character.

but jk said harry will loose someone he cares about..so no matter who dies there going to be close to harry, so hes going to become even more depressed, which may trigger the "new power" he developes... seeing how he cant use his wand to destroy voldemort..maybe something as bad as losing one of his best friends makes him..outragged..like how he blew up that glass in the third book.(he didnt use his wand). hmm just something else to add...

Well, there really are quite a few people who Harry cares about who could die in "Half-Blood Prince" -- J.K. Rowling wasn't extremely specific when she made that statement. (Do you have a link to an interview for that quote, by the way?) Dumbledore, for example... I've talked about his future death a lot on other threads, as well as Lupin, either of the Weasley parents, McGonagall, Hagrid, and any of a rather large number of students (e.g. the entire Weasley family, a bunch of Gryffindors, and the entire D.A.). Do you have any specific evidence that points to Hermione's death in particular? I personally don't find it very likely... I totally agree with harry's_girl... "there's something about her." I suppose that I'm just one of those fans who has been sucked into thinking that Hermione is "invincible," but I really can't find any foreshadowing for her death. She's the "voice of reason" in Harry's life -- it would be much easier for J.K. Rowling to kill of Ron, Harry's best friend, fellow Gryffindor and Quidditch player, etc., than for her to murder Hermione, who in a way, acts as his conscience. As he prepares himself to vanquish Voldemort, I'm sure that Harry will be frequently be relying on that little voice in the back of his mind that sounds like Hermione. Then there's also the fact that I happen to be a huge fan of Hermione's... particular after watching Jessie's "I'm Ready" fan video on the Veritaserum main page! Come on, how could J.K. Rowling kill off a character like that? Harry needs that "girl power" in his life!

yes im one that doesnt want to see any of the trio to die!! but this is just a possibility...jk said in the interveiw on POA that the director hinted to alot of things that she found.."scary"..so when Hermione is getting her palm read by Tralawney she says.."you are young in years...." i thought this could infact be some forshadowing..but i dunno.. i may just be babling on..yes hermione is one of my most fav characters as well..i will try to find an interveiw to further support my theorie!!

I actually think ron's gonna die.. They always leave a girl and a boy till teh end.. plus, hermione is too clever to get killed
but if jk kills one of the trio in the 6th book.. then we have a duo from then!

poor ron everyone thinks hes gunna die....but i have another theorie to add to tralwanys palm reading..(is this illegal?? am i allowed to do this?) well tralawny says, "since teh first time you stepped foot in here i could tell...young in years but the heart that beats beneath your boosum is as shirveled as an old maids....your soul as dry as the pages of the book that you so despretly cleave"....is this perhaps implying that hermione is older..maybe a witch form the future??...as shirveled as an old maids i dont know i think im just getting ahead of my self...but hermione is an awfly clever witch for her age..isnt she??? just a thought id thought i should add while i have a chance...

I think something that we need to consider when talking about the relationship between Hermione and Trelawney is that Hermione was under a lot of stress that year with the time-turner, and that Trelawney is an old fraud. It's like Firenze said in the 5th book about humans don't have a clue about the future. My personal thoughts are that a lot of the stuff trelawney says is not at all divination but old wives tales. The only thing about the future that we can believe from trelawney is the two real prophesies she made. But thats just my opinion.

what about the glass that tralawny predicted neviell would break..or what about lavenders bunny....hmm i think that tralawney may be a fraud, but doesnt know she really is an oracle.

Thats what I asked myself a lot of times. if she's a fraud, why did she predict the tea cup thing well??????

The thing about the bunny is flawed because all Trelawney said was that "the thing you're dreading will happen on (whatever date it was)" Lavender could have just been looking for something to go wrong, in other words the power of suggestion would make her think something would happen, it just so happened to be that her bunny died. The thing about Neville's cup falling was again just the power of suggestion, and Neville is pretty clumsy anyway so that could have led to him breaking the cup too. I still think that Hermiones right by callling Trelawney an old fraud.

i guess your right about that...but then what about the 2 other prophecys she made..the one where she predicts the dark lord will be reunited with his servant...and the prophecy containig harry...what does that mean that shes a real oracle but doesnt know it...therefor she cant be a fraud if something she said has come ture..shes a real oracle...but doesnt know it..who is potraying herself as a fraud..ah i dunno im confusing myself...shes a real oracle who doesnt realize it, but the question as to if she thinks she is or isnt would be the evidenve to whether or not she is or isnt in order ot be a fraud is Deception carried out for the purpose of achieving personal gain while causing injury to another party. For example, selling a new security issue while intentionally concealing important facts related to the issue is fraud. so to be a fraud you must know you are one..i think the situation with tralawney is different....i think hermione mite just be scared of the fact that divination is the only subject that doesnt have logic......

I think trelawney can only predict things well if she's trance..

the that does mean that she's not a fraud, merely a teacher that doesnt know her abilitys. But dont you find it odd that Hermione doesnt like divination of all classes..hmm i think that she may be a witch from the future..think about it.....or i could be becoming delusional.... ......oh well if you agree or not tell me so i can give you facts..or theories..

i read in an editorial/column somewhere that harry will die because he has no ties to this world (i forget who wrote it, verry sorry). but i think it is hermione who has no ties to this world. she has a very distant relationship with ther parents. she spends more of her time with harry and ron and at hogwarts than she does with her own family. she never speaks of them with any great emotion. her first mention of her parents is in chapter 12 of book 1, where she just mentions that they're both dentists. she's an emotionally cripple character really, or she starts off that way but i think throughout the books she has grown and changed her priorities (from studies to what really counts, friendship, goodness etc.) It would settle the whole R/Hr and H/Hr thing because she would die. Maybe her role was to help Ron and Harry grow as well as herself. Also, I have never heard of hermione talk about what she wanted to do in the future. But that could mean nothing.

I could be wrong, she may not die but like I said in a previous post, there's something about hermione

(sorry, I've had too much free time...)

hermione will not die, she is too much of an important charture, she might die in the end of the 7th book

I think that all the evidence provided by Trelawney's two prophecies in "Prisoner of Azkaban" and "Order of the Phoenix" suggests that she is not a total fraud, although neither is she a particularly gifted Seer. We know that her prediction about Binky and Neville breaking the cup were not *real* prophecies because if they were, they would have been in one of those orbs in the Department of Mysteries. Yes, there is an argument that the orbs may have been there and Harry and co. just didn't see them, but my feeling is that prophecies generally refer to more cataclysmic evens than someone breaking a teacup. In its true form, I believe that human prophecy is something like the centaurs' predictions: very general (e.g. Firenze says that there will be a "war" coming, but cannot give any more specifics; similarly, Trelawney did not specify whether Harry or Neville would be the one to vanquish Voldemort). Firenze refers to human prediction as "trivial hurts, tiny accidents" that have little in the way of implications for the cosmos or something like that, but I don't think he is correct. Why should we believe everything he says? We've got to consider the background of the speaker here. I think it's more than fair for us to question his generalizations about humans, considering that he sees himself as an entirely separate race. *Real* prophecies (i.e. the ones in the Department of Mysteries) are only about very large, profound things. Think about the only bits of prophecy that we have heard aside from Trelawney's stuff... "at the solstice will come a new... and none shall come after." These sound pretty broad to me, just based on the fact that the time frame isn't more specific than "the solstice." Basically, I think that Trelawney makes only two real prophecies. The others were just pure coincidence. We can't base a theory for a main character's death on the possibility of foreshadowing in a movie when the lines in the script require such in-depth analysis. I hope what I'm saying makes any sense.

As for Hermione's ties with her world... yeah, it's occurred to me before that she seems remarkably disconnected with her parents. It doesn't seem that she has told them about Voldemort (or if she has, they really couldn't care less! ). And I know that if I had told my parents that I wanted to spend the summer living with two guys in my class when I was fifteen, they would have had some.. um... questions, so I don't really know what's up there. On the other hand, Hermione is an only child, and she really has less in the way of connections to her peers than Harry (when I say "peers," I'm talking about any kids her age -- wizard or Muggle). If I were isolated like that, I'd want to hang out with Harry and Ron all that I could. In that sense, it's possible that Hermione's frequent absences from home is not an indication of her relationship with her parents at all.

harry's_girl: "It would settle the whole R/Hr and H/Hr thing because she would die." That is just brilliant!

Okay, let's hear some more evidence that Hermione will die... I refuse to be convinced! She is way too cool to go, even at the end of Book Seven!

Comments: JK said at the Royal Albert Hall that a hint of what was coming in HP6 was in the book she is now reading. In 'Bless Me Ultima' an owl contains the spirit of a good witch named Ultima. Fawkes may carry the spirit of Dumbledore, and only when this phoenix is destroyed can Dumbledore be killed.

Hermione will be hurt bad, then Harry and Ron will fight together against Voldemort.
Harry tries to kill Voldemort but fails.
Book will be over 700 - 1000 pages long.
Hagrid goes back to school.



Book 2 Evidence

-"I'm quite surprised the Mudbloods haven't all packed their bags by now," Malfoy went on. "Bet you five Galleons the next one dies. Pity it wasn't Granger-"

The bell rang at that moment, which was lucky; at Malfoy's last words, Ron had leapt off his stool, and in the scramble to collect bags and books, his attempts to reach Malfoy went unnoticed.

"Let me at him," Ron growled as Harry and Dean hung onto his arms. "I don't care, I don't need my wand, I'm going to kill him with my bare hands-" (I love this one! Malfoy's lucky the bell rang...)

this is all i have for now dont worry i will get better evidence to further my theory!!! this isnt really evidence just uh..well i dunnno lol

In my own opinion, i do not think Hermione will die. I believe that Ron may die, and Hermione will be hurt badly, but I think that Hermione has an understanding of things, and i think that her logic and knowing will be more of use to harry in beating the Dark Lord. Its interesting to me though, Trawelony's use of words (the whole old maid, old soul thingy). We all know JKR chooses her words wisely, and where i was quick to laugh that off, based by the way hermione acts, looking back, i believe it is possible that she was sent back, or reincarnated, or something to help guide Harry through. Every suggestion she has made, even if harry did not follow, would be a safe, logic, correct course of action to take. But Harry and Ron are like any normal teenager who does not think logical, and safe. They are quick to action, ideas and thoughts not throughly thought through. I think that because of this Ron may die, I think that Harry will realize that Hermiones been right through most of what she says and that will cause him to use her help. I also think, that, with Harry being more and more depressed, he is going to hit bottom in this book, I think that him and ron will remain friends, but i think that Hermione will be shunned because of her way of thinking, once again the boys having normal teenage feelings, and Hermione having her more mataure way of thinking. And if Ron truly does die, then Harry will be compeled to listen to Hermione because she would put up a fight before watching them do something stupid.

It sounds funny the more i read through it, but I think that JKR is very good at protraying people, Dumbledore being Falliable, Harry being angry, The Malfoys and all they represent. And i was just thinking since her characters have all the emtions and tribulations that people outside of books have, that you could follow the logical steps as to what would happen next.

Back to topic, I do not believe Hermione dies, I believe that Ron is the one who takes the fall. I think that it is a neccessary evil to cause Harry to finally get it right in the last book, he would look back on all he lost and get his act together. Kind of like Charmed last night. I dont know if anyone watches it, but it was the same type of act.

and for the record, i love them all, and do not want to see anyone die. but we already know its going to happen

i know everyone doesnt want hermione to die...or ron..but lets face it one of them will... harry is a little more closer to ron than hermione is...in the second task....when it was ron instead of hermione that he would miss more... if ron died he would prolly kill himself..hm what do you think.

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I think it's extremely possible that Hermione will be killed in HBP, though just as likely as Ron, Dumbledore, or Hagrid. After all, J.K. Rowiling said someone close to Harry will die in the HBP, so it could be any of them. The clue in PoA is a good one, but it's likely it doesn't mean anything at all.

Hell is could be anyone. And you all know this, i mean look at the last book i DID NOT think he would die. ANd he did

yes hermione might die..............accually there were direct clues in the 5th book pointing to sirius's death....ill give you quotes when i get the time..

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I would expect the trio to be killed off later in life, so unless the seventh book is set when they are all about 25, I can't see either of them dying

Why do any of the Trio have to die in the near future in the next two book or even while there in there twenties and even thirties!

I for one think Harry, Hermione and Ron deserve to live long and fruitful lives after they leave school.

First of all the Harry Potter books revolve around the trio. Sirius although he was a pretty important character the books can continue with out any serious alterations to the people Harry interacts with. Harry’s Closest confidents have been and remain Ron and Hermione taking either Ron or Hermione out of the equation would leave huge gaps to fill in the seventh book, who would Harry interact with?

Plus I'd like to see Harry Have some degree of Happiness beyond the end of book seven and if he looses either Hermione and Ron, probably the two people he cares most for in the series any victory the order achieves over Volde will be ultimately tarred! Harry Has had so little happieness in his life from loosing his parents, Sirius and the pain caused by the Dursleys and Volde he deserves a happy ending!

I personally would like to see Harry and Hermione settle down long after the series has ended as they'd just make such a perfect couple. sorry I’ll stop now before i go way off topic!

no i think that you are wrong that hermione will die (ad hermione says professor trealony is a fraud). though jk rowling said in the newspaper that harry will die in book seven cause when harry kills voldemort that harry will die also cause they are connected by the scar on harry's forehead.

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yeh i also think harry will definatly have to die in the last book. i really hope hermione doesnt die because that will be such a wee(you can tell i'm from scotland) shame on harry and if hagird died!!!

I thought putting 'wee' in front of words was a Northern Irelandism but anywho...

swirlctw I don't think JK would give away something that big (Harry dieing) in the sixth book, at any stage never mind the seventh one!

Just to reiterate my position on Hermione Dieing. I don't think it will happen because Hermione is such an integral part of the books, plus Harry would be fast loosing things to bother fighting for, if he lost either if his best friends. Just my humble opinion…

even if the paper did say it, it's not confirmed. JK wouldn't want us to know the ending of Book 7 before we could go and buy it.

JK would never tell us harry dies... thats just so not her! that would ruin the books for so many... do you have the link to that newspaper i fancy reading it.... ( i dont mean to offend you in any way..im just curious)

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Nobody is saying that the article doesn't exist, it's just that JK says that only information which is verified on her official site www.jkrowling.com is what she has actually said. It’s possible that the article in question is just someone speculating, for example if maybe Dan didn’t sign a contract saying he would do the last move, a journalist may believe this would have some bearing on the ending of the books and so write an Article expressing his opinion which makes it look extremely plausible. (I'm just using this is just an example, I have no clue about the movies and I apologise for the very bad analogy) If JK actually did say this it would kind of give away the ending and take away the fun of coming up with theories about how the book will end on sites like this one.

Also certain elements in the Media often misquote people or even just blatantly make up stuff on purpose so they can make up stories to catch peoples attention in an effort to sell magazines, newspapers or whatever and ultimately make more money with less effort. A lot of work goes into researching legitimate articles but some people couldn’t be bothered and take the easy way out by making stuff up which is much more easy to do.

I bet they just played off a statement that Daniel made. He said he personally thinks that Harry is going to die at the end. I can't find the exact interview, but Veritaserum has it. Logically, this was just another fan making predictions like the rest of us. But I can totally see the media making a stupid story out of it, or thinking that because he is in the cast, he has inside information.

I personally believe that Neville will be the character that dies in this book. Neville is kind of like Pettegrew(sp) of the maradurs or old. This time, Pettigrew is loyal to the team. Think about it. Lupin, Sirius and James were kind of like a trio, with Pettigrew on the outside looking in, much like neville. We know that Neville is important in the last two books. What if Neville has to die to make The wizarding world sure(and yes I am familir with the phropesy about marking as equal) sure Harry is the one that the prophesy is talking about? After all the Ministry of Magic isnt neccesaraly on good terms with Harry Potter.

Craboy

(hermione isn't the youngest of the trio, she's the oldest...but i don't think that has any bearing)

i really don't think hermione will die. i'd say ron is more likely to die than her, but even with that i don't think any of the trio will be killed.

if someone close to harry is predicted to die, i think it will be hagrid.