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amortentia_149
Now... i was disgusted at the thought they cut out the funeral, and i don't know if this is right t place to say this, but is it true? I'm almost positive it is, and if someone confirmed it, i'm sorry. But does anyone know for sure? They probably did, which is what i was looking forward to the most... mad.gif
peter
You''l probably cry when you here this but it us confirmed that the funeral was cut. mad.gif sad.gif He doesn't even get a goodbye on eof the greatest sorcerers in the world. That was probabl the best bit in the book! If I was J. k I would scream at the director.Also, Nat tena, who plays Tonks said the the funeral was cut too.
Magelirose
Where? Where has anyone ever said the funeral scene has been cut? Where? I would like to know people's sources when they claim things such as this. It is highly irritating when people just breeze in without so much as one reference to where they heard/read/watched such items of information and then state it as fact on the forums.

Please - quote your sources, or provide links to articles, or even post a link to the interview you watched. But please do not come in here and post something without backing it up with some form of concrete evidence.

Until I see the concrete proof that this scene has been cut (or any other scene for that matter) I shall hold onto the hope that they haven't cut it.
Just the Droobles
Yes, please give a link.

I think if the funeral was cut, the fandom would probably become very angry. Myself included. I mean, out of all things they can and should cut, the funeral is definitely not one of them. Hopefully this is just a rumour. I haven't heard about this before now, but I really hope that it's not true.
Magelirose
Well, I've just trawled the net looking for this supposed interview that Natalia Tena gave stating the funeral scene had been cut, and what did I find?

Nothing but comments made by fans referring to this non-existent interview. The one interview she seems to allude to things being cut does not mention the funeral scene at all. There are many forums out there which have comments on them regarding this piece of "news", yet none of them can point to the actual quote she is supposed to have made.

So, like I said - until it's official (i.e. I hear it from the film makers, or see it for myself) I won't believe this rumour. I would suggest others ignore it too for the time being.
amortentia_149
For all those who don't believe this is true, i'm almost positive i've found a reliable source: Natalia herself revealing about the movie. Watch it for yourselves!

Natalia's Interview

For those who can't watch or can't understand her speaking, cause it's not the best quality
QUOTE
For the sixth one, like, they cut out a lot; and there's no Dumbledore's Funeral.


Well... who didn't see that coming...
Magelirose
Thank you for that. How long ago was that Q and A? I wonder if Yates thought better of it since then? It seems unconceivable that they would cut such a scene. Mind you, I suppose if there's lots of people crying around DD's body at the foot of the tower, perhaps we don't need another tear-jerking scene with a funeral?

Oh well, looks like I was wrong, but I wonder how much of an authority Natalia Tena is for these films - she wasn't on set for the entire shoot, was she? dry.gif
amortentia_149
Umm, it's a little too late seeing as they're in post-production and the filmings been done since may i think. It totally sucks, that's what i was looking forward to... I just want to know why? Unless they plan on having the funeral at the start of DH, but that would be even weirder dry.gif
DeSs
No, no ... Nat is confused! They simply can't be cutting off Dumbledore's funeral! How dare they? It's an insult for us -- for Dumbledore!
I won't believe it and I'll pretend that Nat Teena was just cheating us, because the movie won't be the same if they cut that part. I mean, if they did that, it will be pointless to even kill Dumbledore, because no funeral was hold! wacko.gif
It's different to Sirius: to such a character who had his body, not to have an homage is ... just unbearable.
Just the Droobles
I have a feeling...that the way this movie is going there is going to be an angry mob of fans outside wherever David Yates is residing. Though, it's probably not the director's fault for what they cut out...but still. How could JKR even approve of that?!?!? Doesn't she have to give them an "Okay" or something?? They already ruined Sirius' death, why are they going to mess up this one too? I have very low expectations for this movie. dry.gif
rach2603
if they have cut it... i will eb annoyed that will take alot of emotion out of the film
but rowling would have to okay it
the thing is that where there is no law which restricts which age group or audience reads the books the film makers make profit of having a 12A audience i think thats PG13 in US
so they will cut thinkgs that make it difficultt o pass the film as suitable for its intended audience.. but i cant see why a funeral wouldnt pass as 12A
the other thing is thef ilm makers are now dealing with issues involiving late teens where the audience is a younger audience so they have to .... erm dumb it down isnt the right phrase but you know what im getting at
harrypotterlover1024
If they cut it out, which im trying to refuse to believe, why wouldn't JKR step in? It doesn't even have to be the author of the book, or huge fans, to realize cutting out a funeral is a pretty big move. I mean you don't have to love the books to realize it doesn't make sense! The funeral is a big emotial part. It scares me to think if they are cutting out this, what other big things could they have cut out?
am11398666
dumbledore is a great character performed badly by a good actor...it would be a shame to not have a couple of minutes at the end of the film regarding the funeral and the part where harry comes to the conclusion that he has to go on the mission soon(and preferably alone) sad.gif
UnknownLocket
No! This is horrible. This is going to kill the Harry Potter movies. How can anyone suggest cutting out Dumbledore's funeral?! How else is it going to end?! The funereal was where everyone came together. Grawp made an appearance, Fred and George where there in their crocodile suits or what not and Harry was supposed to break up with Ginny there. Where else is he going to do it now? In the hospital wing... dry.gif I am very disappointed. Although the funeral would have been a sad event, it ends HBP on a note of hope when the trio come together afterwards and Ron and Hermione make the promise to always be by Harry's side. I'm scared to see how this film is going to turn out.

QUOTE(am11398666 @ Jul 7 2008, 09:10 PM) [snapback]518958[/snapback]

dumbledore is a great character performed badly by a good actor

Haha, I just had to laugh at this because it's true. biggrin.gif
Harry James Potter
I couldn't believe the news either when I heard it and then saw this interview. I agree about everything you said UnknownLocket, the funeral was such an importnat event. And just the basic principle of it was important...Dumbledore, one of the biggest characters in the series died...I think that should be included.

Maybe they'll make up some stupid event to take it's palce so that Harry can do his deal...just like they're going to do with the shoelace theory between Ginny and Harry


wink.gif UnknownLocket

~Nick~
HJP
UnknownLocket
QUOTE(Harry James Potter @ Jul 17 2008, 09:26 PM) [snapback]521677[/snapback]

Maybe they'll make up some stupid event to take it's palce so that Harry can do his deal...just like they're going to do with the shoelace theory between Ginny and Harry


wink.gif UnknownLocket

LoL biggrin.gif

For this HBP movie they got good things working for it since it reveals so much of the HP plot and yet bad things working against it such as pointless and odd scenes like Ginny/ Harry's shoelace thing that's going on. Poor Dumbledore won't even receive a proper burial. Well, if they can't include his funeral, then Aragog does not deserve a funeral (he does die in this book right? unsure.gif ).
amortentia_149
I would be surprised if they even show aragog sleep.gif. I mean, yes, it's awful they probably cut out the funeral, but if it hadn't been for J.K. there wouldn't be the movies, and if you don't remember, she didn't even want them to make movies out of it. Regardless, there's only one reason i could think they would cut out the funeral, though, and that would be to start the seventh movie with it, which would be ridiculous. I don't see this movie being the best it could be, but at least they didn't cut his death...
Hermione17
All these scenes they are cutting out of HBP is really disappointing. I was upset with how OOTP came out...but I can see HBP being worse. The things they change in HBP are going to end up messing with DH and that will really have fans up in arms! I just hope that after all these films are done...someone better comes along in a few years and re makes them (if JKR allows it). If I was the author...there would be NO WAY I would let anyone change the way the books are supposed to be. But that's just me... mad.gif


UnknownLocket
QUOTE(amortentia_149 @ Jul 18 2008, 02:03 PM) [snapback]521849[/snapback]

it's awful they probably cut out the funeral, but if it hadn't been for J.K. there wouldn't be the movies, and if you don't remember, she didn't even want them to make movies out of it.

I understand, but since there are movies and JKR is around to control what they show, it is ridiculous that she would allow them to cut out the funeral. I can't think of any other way to end HBP without it. But I guess that's just me.

QUOTE
If I was the author...there would be NO WAY I would let anyone change the way the books are supposed to be. But that's just me...

I completely agree.
firefly
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I can't believe they are cutting the funeral! I've never been very disappointed with any of the Potter films, but this is a serious disappointment to me. I can't believe they've done that. Well, I hope they don't screw up his actual death scene. I was very much looking forward to the funeral scene...... mad.gif sad.gif sad.gif
dan
Perhaps HBP will end with Snape and Malfoy fleeing. As DH has been split into 2 movies they will have plenty of time to fit Dumbledore's funeral in at the beginning, leaving more time for other (un-rushed) important HBP scenes.
HJP/HJG_TrueLove
No I don't think they will end with Snape and Draco fleeing it will end with them on the Hogwarts Express probably. If they have any thing in Deathly Hallows on the funeral it would be like a flashback or Harry having a nightmare about the funeral. I can't believe they are going to have Quidditch and not the Headmaster's funeral. This looks like it is going to be another disappointing Harry Potter film. The only ones I am not disappointed with so far are Prisoner of Azkaban and Order of the Phoenix. I just hope they don't cut out the Weasley twin's joke shop which is the only thing I am truly looking forward to besides laughing at all the corny ship moments.
peter
Why was everyone blaming me for not getting a link, I can't remeber where i find it and it is true, so don't start shouting at me please.
Thankyou. Andit is official, I was only telling you. It is a bit aggresive.
Anyway, the funeral scene has been replace by an emotional, poignant scene which steve kloves wrote.
You can find it here, it's on the white tomb chapter.
Website adress.
http://cosforums.com/showthread.php?t=117196&page=42
Magelirose
QUOTE(peter @ Jul 27 2008, 01:49 PM) [snapback]524020[/snapback]

Why was everyone blaming me for not getting a link, I can't remeber where i find it and it is true, so don't start shouting at me please.
Thankyou. Andit is official, I was only telling you. It is a bit aggresive.
Anyway, the funeral scene has been replace by an emotional, poignant scene which steve kloves wrote.
You can find it here, it's on the white tomb chapter.
Website adress.
http://cosforums.com/showthread.php?t=117196&page=42



I think this was probably aimed at me. I am sorry if you felt I was shouting at you, but I wasn't. Shouting is usually evident when people write in BLOCK CAPITALS or add a series of exclamation marks (!!!!!!). Yes, I get irritated when people make claims about rumours and offer them up as fact, but I do not shout about it. If you don't back up your claims with quotes or references, people won't believe you, and they will become irritated (me for one). There have been a lot of claims made, and not many of them have been backed up by fact. The end result is people becoming upset and worried that their most anticipated film of the year is going to be rubbish, because someone has either got their facts muddled, or just plain wrong. So, I would ask that you present your information as rumour until you have a reliable source to back it up with.

So, to clarify: I would just ask you to exercise some caution regarding the apparent report that Steve Kloves has written anything and had it stay in the final cut. The link you have provided above is not gospel. It is from a series of reports, some legitimate, and some not so. The problem with set reports is that they are always a work in progress. The people who were on set at the time, were not necessarily around to witness the final director's cut. So, anything could happen, and a lot of the time changes are made which we fans are not necessarily aware of until we actually get to see the film. So, once again I would ask you not to proffer things as fact unless Warner Bros themselves have said it is fact.

If you read the very end of the information provided in your link Peter, it says:

30. The White Tomb

- Mad Eye Moody has been cut and will not appear in this scene.

- The rumour is the funeral has been cut, however it seems it's just been "adapted" due to a comment made by Yates:
Quote:
"The film's playfulness is going to be great, and Dumbledore's death will be quite moving. Steve has taken the funeral from the book and written a beautiful scene. One of Jo's recurring themes is death and loss, and even though the sixth movie is playful and funny, Steve has adapted that Half-Blood Prince scene in a very poignant, plaintive, and special way"
THE END


So the CoS forums are presenting the apparent lack of Dumbledore's funeral as a rumour, not as a fact. Therefore no one should treat it as fact, truth or outright gospel until we are given concrete evidence (i.e. when we see it for ourselves, or David Yates or another reliable source can be accessed and confirm it properly).

Thank you.
peter
I am glad we have cleared that up. Obviously, I did not read it properly, but it might be cut, or it might not be. But I wish It wasn't if it is, of course. Sorry for mistaking it as shouting. Can we stop this silly argument and resume talking about harry potter.
Thankyou. biggrin.gif
hunt330
I've got to say, I would be extremely disappointed if they cut Dumbledore's funeral.

So let's get this straight... They are cutting Dumbledore's funeral(arguably one of the most emotional scenes in the series), the Gaunts (the basis behind seeing into Voldemort's past, i.e: the point of the movie sleep.gif ...), and other scenes that correlate into the final movie's plot, but they are adding/keeping Quidditch, and adding "playful, funny" scenes?

I don't get it... Why?
Magelirose
QUOTE(hunt330 @ Jul 27 2008, 09:50 PM) [snapback]524110[/snapback]

I've got to say, I would be extremely disappointed if they cut Dumbledore's funeral.

So let's get this straight... They are cutting Dumbledore's funeral(arguably one of the most emotional scenes in the series), the Gaunts (the basis behind seeing into Voldemort's past, i.e: the point of the movie sleep.gif ...), and other scenes that correlate into the final movie's plot, but they are adding/keeping Quidditch, and adding "playful, funny" scenes?

I don't get it... Why?



No....we do not know for sure that they are cutting Dumbledore's funeral. Please read my previous post again. All we do know is that DD's funeral will not necessarily be portrayed exactly as it is in the book. But that doesn't mean it won't be in the film at all. It just means it may take a slightly different format to what we have read in the book.

I re-iterate: we do not know for sure that DD's funeral is definitely going to be cut. We have nothing concrete to go on. We have only got a rumour.

Having said it so many times now, it's bound to be cut, isn't it? rolleyes.gif
Tanuki
Sounds like there will be a funeral, though it may not be the same one we saw in the book (centaurs, merpeople, Grawp [oh god, please cut Grawp] and Umbridge etc etc) but I imagine there'll be some sort of closing scene. If they just have him fall, it would frankly be rather unclear as to whether or not he was actually dead.

They also need the tomb for the DH grab-the-wand scene, not that ensuring DH scenes are set up neatly seems to be a major concern.
Pure-blood Slytherin
i dont think that they are going 2 cut the funeral either. but it will be different, just like how every movies ending is different from the books ending.
hunt330
Yeah, the only real change I can see that I would want made to the funeral would be excluding Grawp from it...

Other than that, they should include the whole funeral scene. Can someone refresh my memory, please? Is Scrimgeour cast for this movie or the next? I hope so, but if he isn't, then we obviously know Harry's being "Dumbledore's man through and through" won't be in it...
harrypotterlover1024
I really hope they don't cut the funeral. So people are saying that we don't know if they cut it, but they may be changing it a bit? I think that if they are saying they are changing it that probably means they are still having it but changing it so it is shorter. I mean, what would make them even think about getting rid of the funeral?!? I think JKR would have stepped in if that was the case.
ravensblood
So, I was thinking. What if JKR did step in and say "wait a minute, you can't cut this scene!" That may be why the release date has changed from November 08 to summer 09. JKR may have decided that there are just some scenes in the book that are too important to just be left out. Of course the funeral is only one of many scenes that was cut that we all feel should have been left in the movie. I'm sure we will find out more as we get closer to the release date.
Padfoot4Ever
HBP Review

That is a review about HBP I read and it may reassure you on the movie. It may contain spoilers so beware..but if you are worried I would give it a read.
Magelirose
Wow, thanks for that Padfoot4ever, that is a great review and it certainly goes quite a way to ease my concerns.

There is so much to this book (as usual!!!) it must be so hard for the script-writers and producers et al to decide what to include and what to cut. If this review is to be believed, then I feel we have a good composite on our hands.

I am wondering if they will use the extra time ahead of us to make any improvements (I sincerely doubt it will be to include scenes we know have already been cut, however), and if so, where exactly. I do hope that Nicholas Hooper will use some of the themes from PoA, as that is my favourite soundtrack out of the whole lot.

I was exceedingly disappointed about the delay in releasing the film before I read this review, now I am a little more confident that the wait will be worth it. biggrin.gif
blazer123
YOU HAVE GOT TO BE KIDDING ME!!!!! If they cut that part... i can't start explaining how much protest you are going to start hearing about every Harry Potter fan in the world. A legendary wizard with no funeral at the end? that is simply outrageous and not to mention really unfair.. if that really happens... awww man dry.gif
Doug2222
I think it is terrible if they have cut Dumbledore's funeral (which appears highly likely now). This important scene as been cut like so many others have through out the rest of the movies. Yes, it is not vital to the plot line and could be cut, but it is very important to the film as it is in the book. Will we even see Dumbledore blasted off the astronomy tower by Snape? They HAVE to keep that scene. If they don't will just find out second hand 'Oh by the way Harry, Snape just murdered Dumledore. Just thought you should know'. That just seems ridiculous to me. Does anyone know why the Death Eaters torch the Burrow at Christmas time? That just seems weird to me. And apparently they cut Tonk's patronus scene as well. I was looking forward to that. It was confirmed by this link posted earlier.

http://cosforums.com/showthread.php?t=117196&page=42

harryjpotter
They simply must include Dumbledore's funeral!!! Seriously, even if they change certain bits, it has to be in there. This is Dumbledore, the great leader of the resistance and his funeral really brings home the loss of Dumbledore.
Back with Black
Be reasonable they cannot keep the funeral really. This is because there are so many different people in it. All the people that are not acting in it any more.

But saying that I would love it if they could include the funeral as people have said Dumbledore is an amazing character he was the best. But he will be in the next film (well he was in the last book so should be in the last film) so it is not like we will not see him again.

but the charcters should get to say goodbye to him and the people who have not read the books and just in case he is not in the last films. i say films as the book is being spplit into 2 films.

i hope my fave person is not hated though. god i love snape. he is the best. wub.gif wub.gif wub.gif
dchristen03
That is so ugh! They're not supposed to cut out that scene! The funeral was the part I was looking forward to the most in the movie! sad.gif The lines and everything was perfect, and I couldn't stand to think of Harry tearing up at Dumbledore. It's not fair!!
AryaForce
I can't believe they won't have Dumbledore's funeral. How is Voldemort to get the Elder Wand now? Amazing these directors on how they like to ruin the stories all the time.
Linux felicis
I think too much has leaked about the film and now Natalia is trying to stir things up by saying that. I don't believe it for a minute. There are so many trailers, teasers, scenes, pictures etc from the new film out there that for us who have read the book it's like having seen the film already. It's really a pity. Be patient and wait for the film!
AryaForce
QUOTE(Linux felicis @ Jun 5 2009, 02:28 PM) [snapback]571347[/snapback]

I think too much has leaked about the film and now Natalia is trying to stir things up by saying that. I don't believe it for a minute. There are so many trailers, teasers, scenes, pictures etc from the new film out there that for us who have read the book it's like having seen the film already. It's really a pity. Be patient and wait for the film!


True and I agree with you. Just sometime you see things and think something they have done wrong. Honestly I really hope they do show his funeral. We shall be patient. However patience is a lesson to be relearned daily. That was from Qui-Gon Jinn from a Star Wars book I was reading.
CasualKarma
I too, like many of you, were shocked when I heard that the directors had cut the funeral. With the movie less than 24 days away, in the past few days I've reread the book, and have just finished it up tonight. As I was reading the chapter about the funeral, I decided that there is no way these rumors can be true. From a series standpoint, I consider this chapter of the whole story to be tantamount to a climax. It was at this moment that Harry realizes and verbalizes what he has to do. It's an unusual moment of complete harmony between all sorts of magical creatures-wizards and witches, merpeople, the centaurs, even the unruly Grawp is not unaware of the circumstances. Harry's friends' true colors come out, refusing to leave his side even in this, the face of the most dire circumstance anyone in the story has ever found themselves in.

No, no. I think this "we've cut the funeral scene" business is simply a clever ruse by the directors and producers to incite some sense of resentment, and in turn entice people to see the film even more, and an attempt to get an overjoyed reaction from fans when they find that this important scene was not, in fact, cut.

Or at least that's what I hope is going on...
tedlanc
I just read on Yahoo that there is thought of putting the funeral at the beginning of Deathly Hallows in the same way that Half blood Prince apparently flashes back to the ministry in the beginning. I hope that the scene makes it onto film in some manner, but we will just have to wait and see.
FollowTheSpiders
I wasn't looking to the funeral scene most because, well, Dumbledore died. But it should definately be included in the film. Unfortunately theres nothing we can do seeing as theres only 5 hours till it comes out...

And when you guys see the movie, PLEASE do NOT come back here and blab about it! I want to see it for myself! But I have to wait 3 weeks to see it.
7134407
I really really hated that they cut this out of the movie - I was really looking forward to this too and I thought it as really anticlimatic when they just kind of ended it. In particular I really anted to see the tributes by the Centaurs, the mer people, and a reappearance of Grawp. Not to mention Harry post-funeral...
Veinic
definitely gutted. the most disappointing part in the whole movie was the final 30 minutes. his death felt ordinary, it certainly didnt feel like one of the more important characters and one of the best mage just met his demise. it was downplayed somewhat, everything in those final 30 minutes felt bad. it wouldve been good if the scene was included, while i dont think it serves any purpose to the development of the story in HP7, it wouldve been a proper goodbye to the mage. i mean, he's freakin Dumbledore!!!
Hermione17
I knew ahead of time that the funeral wasn't going to be in the film as most of you did. I guess I was holding out hope. But NOPE it wasn't! I don't understand it. Dumbledore is the most powerful wizard ever, and such an important part of the ENTIRE series. How did he not deserve a funeral?

I give funerals to my pet fish when they die...right down the comode...a few sweet words and flush!

Dumbledore didn't even get that! What's wrong with this director? Is he determined to anger every HP fan out there? Well...he's doing a bang up job.

Dawn mad.gif
ladylila705
A girl I spoke with said that it was cut from the movie (she saw it on Wednesday), but she said she read somewhere (I don't know where though) that they would be showing it at the beginning of DH. I'm a little peeved if that's the case, considering the fact that the funeral is part of HBP!!!
La MaitressedeMort
Yes, I must admit, I cried at the lack of funeral scene. Both times (yes, midnight release, then again at 8 pm. I felt nerdy) cause that was some of her best writing, and Harry tells Ginny they can't be together, and it's so much better than having Hermione tell Harry that Ron's cool with him being with his sister as long as they keep the snogging to a minimum. I would have prefered the whole lying on Harry reading scene (twas awkward, but worked better) than that. And yes, the funeral scene is like fantastic and is the best part and makes me cry when reading more than Dumbledorks death. I'm emotional.

More people need to talk about the movie, cause I've mos def seen it twice and am holding back from IM'ing every one I know to rant about it. They allready wont answer my calls cause they know i'll rant; tears.

But, since the last 30 min were dissapointing, and there was no funeral scene, what do you suppose led them to believe it wasn't like the best part of the book? David Yates has failed me again'; not as much as Alfonso Cuaron, so I'll live, but barely.

~Aeryn~
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