I looked around and could not find a thread like this; but if there is, please feel free to tell me (or in the case of mods, shut it down). I was just curious as to whether anyone believed that certain characters were Sorted into the wrong house. As Dumbledore said, "You know, sometimes I think we Sort too soon....". Were their any characters that may have shown those tendancies to begin with, but as time grew on, showed that their house did not suit them? Some ideas for discussion are:
Snape
Neville
Zacharias Smith
Cho Chang

Enjoy!
-Ali

Am I the 1st to reply? Cool! Well, I think that maybe Neville was sorted into the wrong house. He didn't really show much bravery until the later books. As I said in the Hufflepuff thread, there should be Griffinpuff (Griffindor/Hufflepuff) just for him!

It's definitely an interesting question, Ali_Jesus_Freak. I know we all scratch our heads and go 'Why the heck is Cho in Ravenclaw?' and all of that, but I really don't think that the sorting hat will put you in the wrong house. I think it sorts, not on the talents you have, but on three other things: Potential, Values, and Choices.

Potential: This aspect, I think, explains why Neville is in Gryffindor. Through the first four books, he was a minor character, and a slightly clumsy and awkward one at that. We all questioned why he was in Gryffindor instead of someplace like Hufflepuff. But then, in books five and seven, when he's confronted with the dark arts and even Voldemort himself, he shows true Gryffindor spirit and doesn't back down.

I think that the sorting hat could see this potential for great courage in Neville back in first year, but knew he needed something to bring it out. So the hat put Neville in Gryffindor, where he could be encouraged to be brave and eventually be brave.

Values: This one will explain just about everyone else you might think is in the wrong house. Smith, Cho, Snape, maybe even Hermione. These people might have the talents or traits that go along with other houses; Hermione's really clever (Ravenclaw), Smith's a meanie (Slytherin) Snape's brave (Gryffindor) and Cho's kind of duffer-like (Hufflepuff). This is why I think they are in the houses they are.

Smith, though an idiot, may value hard work. Cho might think being smart is really important, hence landing her in Ravenclaw. Snape probably likes the aura of mystery, evil, and power that comes from being a Slytherin, even if he is a brave man. And you can tell that Hermione thinks "Friendship and bravery" is more important than "Books and cleverness". (Am I the only one remembering the Sorcerer's Stone movie?)

Keep in mind that the founders are said to have valued the traits of their houses, not possess them themselves.

Choices: I just through this one in here to finish up my theory of what the sorting hat sorts on. It doesn't have to do with the names on your list, Ali_Jesus_Freak, but it does have to do with one very important character... Harry!

Harry could have been in two different houses. Slytherin and Gryffindor suited him best, but which one should he go to? He chose Gryffindor because he already knew that Slytherin had a reputation for evil, and he didn't want to be evil.

Well, that about sums up my theory. (If you can call what I just typed a summary!)

Yes.... Sometimes I think Peter Pettigrew should have been in Slytherin. Aren't Gryffindors supposed to be, like, the bravest of the school? Peter said that he did Voldemort's bidding because he would have died if he didn't. That's pretty cowardly if you ask me. Sirius was right to say that he would rather die for his friends than turn them in to Voldemort.

I think Snape should have been in Gryffindor. I mean, he sort of did belong there when he was a kid, but as an adult he was really a brave guy. I mean, he killed Dumbledore on Dumbledore's orders, which must have been hard to do. He turned against Voldemort and had to try really hard to not get caught, which is obvious since he lived so long. And then he had to go and teach Harry, who was the son of Lily Evans, and looked almost exactly like his father, who was the person Snape hated the most. I'd say he's a pretty brave person.

From reading the first few books, I had to wonder why Neville wasn't in Hufflepuff and why Hermione wasn't in Ravenclaw, Hermione because she's intelligent, and Neville appeared quite timid and clumsy, but as we got further through the series, we see why they were sorted into Gryffindor as both showed bravery, especially in book 7, so I can only think of Pettigrew, who showed no bravery whatsoever, yet was in Gryffindor.

I think Peter Pettigrew should have been in slytherin because he was not brave at all, and he only wanted to save himself. But then again I think he did value bravery and wanted to be brave like a gryffindor. Snape I think should have been in Gryffindor, even though he didn't show his bravery till he was older. I dont really know why Cho was in Ravenclaw but I guess she was smart. Um i guess thats all I can think of. Sorry if this is kinda off topic but does anyone know which house Hagrid was in?

Hagrid was in Gryffindor, harrypotterlover1024, although some would disagree with this choice. Hang on, good topic for debate! Should Hagrid have been in Hufflepuff rather than Gryffindor? Excellent points forsaken_wolfess, and I agree with what you said. The Sorting Hat does generally make the right choice, based on the factors you discussed, but one point does spring to mind. In CoS, when Harry doubts his place in Gryffindor, the Sorting Hat says that he firmly believes that Harry should have been in Slytherin. Of course, he was not because of his choice of Gryffindor, but it does make me wonder why the Hat was so adament he be in Slytherin, when it was clearly revealed, not only by Harrys choices but his actions, that Gryffindor was where he belonged? Did it have anything to do with the whole Harry/Horcrux extravaganza?

As for Pettigrew, while I agree that Gryffindor was certainly not the House he should have been in, I think Choice was a definate aspect of his sorting. I'm guessing that no matter how the Hat tried to sort him elsewhere, Peter was set on Gryffindor, probably because he had heard that that was the best House. Maybe he had met James and Sirius by that stage, who he hero-worshipped and wanted to be associated with? And as for Cho, I'm going to try and put aside my definate loathing of all things Cho and debate her un-biasedly. From what we see of her, I do not see her belonging in Ravenclaw, the house of the wise, clever and thirsty for knowledge. Does silly, overdramatic Cho strike you as belonging there? While of course we do not know much of her grades, she may well have been smart, but I really don't see her in Ravenclaw!

I can definitely see your point.  But maybe she and her friends are hungry for a different kind of knowledge?  Gossip comes to mind.  Rumors and truths about people and their lives are very central in such groups of girls, and, by the loosest definition, that is a form of knowledge.  Maybe it was the thirst for that that placed her in Ravenclaw?

Peter's must have been choice.  He was a wimpy little kid, and highly into self-preservation.  He must have wanted to go to Gryffindor, or else he would have most definitely gone to Slytherin, or maybe (very slight chance) Hufflepuff. 

I hadnt thought of that, good thinking! Hmm.... I'm definately inrtiuged by this Cho business, I'm going to find out what I can and let you know. Maybe snoop around the Ravenclaw thread? Gossip does seem likely as her form of knowledge, yes. How about Parvati and Padma Patil? We don't see much of them in the books, all we know is that Parvati was in Gryffindor and Padma in Ravenclaw. Any ideas on why they were separated? Mostly siblings are separated because of deftinate personality differences, such as Sirius and Regulas, but from what we've seen of these twins, they seem to have similar personalities. Any thoughts?

hmm, um i think that Percy Weasley should have been in Ravenclaw because he isn't really all that brave because he stuck by the ministry, which was the safe thing to do when he should have been with his family (im not saying ravenclaws are cowards), and he was really smart and loved school. so uh, yeah.

Well, first of all, I want to tell forsaken_wolfess that she is entirely correct. I had never thought of values before, but that really is almost as important as traits. That would explain almost anybody we've ever questioned.

I think Parvati and Padma were in different houses just because of values too, and also, you know twins aren't exactly alike, so it's not like they should be, or have to be, in the same house.

One more thing: I think Hagrid would have made a good Hufflepuff. He's kind and always tries to do the right thing, even though sometimes it doesn't work But Hagrid is just a Hufflepuff kind of person, wouldn't you say????

Very true, Hagrid does have some very Hufflepuff-like tendancies, the ones you meantioned being the key ones. You know, I was going to come up with an argument about this, but thinking about it, I dont really believe my own argument. Remembering that being fair and unjudgmental is a key trait of Hufflepuffs, looking back, Hagrid did show these tendancies! I mean, think about it, throughout the books, whenever prejudice showed up, usually in the form of Slytherins, Hagrid was always hesitant to join in. For example, whenever Harry, Ron and Hermione would diss Snape, or try to blame him for things, Hagrid would usually defend him, saying that you can't be prejudiced. The same went for Malfoy,most of the time. I'm not saying that the Gryffindors were prejudiced, its just that when it came to Slytherin, they did have that degree of jumping to conclusions. Hagrid, although he didnt like Slytherins, was unlikey to blame one just becasue they were Slytherin. Is it just me, or is Hagrids lack of doing so slightly odd?

It's not odd, it's good! We all hate Slytherins, and almost everyone in the entire house of Gryffindor does too, with the possible exception of Hermione. It's nice to see someone who has real reasons to loathe and despise that house (remember which house Tom Riddle was a prefect for when he got Hagrid kicked out to protect himself) and he doesn't! At least, he doesn't as much as some of the others.

But you do make a point. Gryffindors, even sometimes Hermione, have a tendency to sort of jump to conclusions and dive in head first before thinking things through. Hagrid has done that a couple of times too, (who's willing to forget the skrewts?) but not as much with judgements of others and prejudices. It must come from what he had to endure as a child.

And Hagrid can be very brave, as well. In OotP, he ran out when everyone was cursing McGonagall, he ran out and started defending her. He also rallied the creatures of the Dark Forest in the last battle and led them against the Death Eaters. (Although the death eaters may have hurt many of them, at least there aren't any giant spiders running around anymore! ) And the Support Harry Potter party... Hagrid, Hagrid, Hagrid...

I think Hagrid is brave and true, although somewhat mislead and not entirely bright. He's also the truest friend. This could either send him to Gryffindor or Hufflepuff, and he liked Gryffindor better.

That whole thing was basically to say that I believe Hagrid was sorted into the correct house when he was at school.

Just to piggyback off of what Forsaken_wolfess was talking about Hagrid. I agree that Hagrid does have some Hufflepuff traits but alltogether if we look at the braveness factor in him and the loyalty he shows to his friends, makes him a Gryffindor. I also thought in the fifth book when he was sent to gain the Giants aliance was pretty brave of him as well. Giants arent the kindest folk. But once you break in their thick skulls (really thick ) it isn't as hard and or tough. But breaking the skull can be a very scary and complicated thing. But thats just my opinion.

Hey everybody!

A relative and I were just talking about this topic!! I know I"ve already replied to this thread, but I didn't include my (and my relative's) new idea in the other post. It's a bit like what Snapefan21 said (Percy in Ravenclaw), because I think Percy wolud've fit in another house...Slytherin

Percy was always an ambitious person who never let anything get in the way of his career. Not all Slytherins are bad, so Percy cou'ld've been a true Slytherin, right? That's just the way Percy is, I wouldn't call him another Malfoy or I wouldn't call him evil.

What do you think?

You do definitely have a point with Percy. He probably wanted to be in Gryffindor simply because that was his family's Status Quo. If he had been sorted on his abilities, he probably would have gone to Slytherin, maybe a very slim chance at Ravenclaw. Although, in DH, he does prove that when he puts his ambitions aside, he can be a real Gryffindor when he wants to be!

Percy was way to ambitous and very brave. Personally I think he should of been sorted into Hufflepuff because he had a very strong personality and it
had driven him to hate people who were in the way of his career. He was very
brave and nice. But he was just to driven to his job for me liking.

An excellent point, bookworm_1918 , I think you could well be onto something there. Percy....I never really thought about him much, but it does seem as though Gryffindor was yet another example of choosing choice over suitability. I mean, I guess Perce showed bravery in his own way, but deserting his family because it got in the way of his own personal pursuits....definately traces of Slytherin there. If I were the Hat, I would have had a difficult choice of placing him, being stuck between Ravenclaw and Slytherin. But despite this, I do think the Hat made the right choice in this case. You're right, forsaken_wolfess, he did have his moment of glory in DH, and if you look closely at the reunion of him and his family at the end of chapter 30; it says this:



This quote shows the measures he was willing to take in order to join the fight, this time on the right side. He put aside his pride and gave a sincere apology to the family he disowned, which in my opinion needed considerable courage. Later on, while he's fighting his former boss, he says this:



He was willing to throw off his loyalty to the Ministry, which for 3 years was his everything, to fight against them, with his family. It seems to me that these things definately show his true Gryffindor character. So in conclusion, in terms of his sorting, I think the Sorting Hat got it right. Not because he acted as a Gryffindor while in school, he was an absolute prat, but that he had the potential for tremendous courage inside of him, and when it really mattered, he was willing to throw off his Slytherin tendancies and fight for the truth. And that, I think, is more important than how he behaved in school.

Nice topic Ali_Jesus_Freak Its true that you could see some characters put into different houses than the ones the Sorting Hat chose for them, but in the end you can definaelty see the values which the hat chose from to sort them. I think that Hermione should have been put into Ravenclaw, because she is probably the brainiest girl in her year. Hermione does say in the book that when the hat was on her head that the hat seriously did consider putting her in Ravenclaw but chose Griffindor in the end.
I think that bookworm_1918 makes a realy good point about Percy. I really would have thought that he would have been chosen into Slytherin. He betrayed and abandonned his family for his own personal glory and so that his career wasnt put at stake. Percy isnt evil or bad, but sure is as power hungry as some Slytherins, and im sure the hat saw traits of these values when he was sorted.
With Neville, at first i seriously thought that, especially within the first few books, that Longbottom seriously needed to be put in Hufflepuff! Absolutely clumbsy and practically a squib, nevertheless the hat had chosen him for Gryffindor which in the end makes all the pieces of the puzzle fall together. He showed true courage and bravery, and matured alot with the DA and the duels in the last few books, and i think he's determination and bravery really overpowered his Neville-ness.
Hagrid, i could have seen as a Hufflepuff also. The gentle giant is always so kind, and can always be trusted. He isnt very bright, but is kind at heart. I think he has traits of a true Hufflepuff, and we see his kindness even the first time we meet Hagrid, with him giving his coat to Harry in the cave, and when he gives Harry and Ron lots of his 'delicious' rock cakes

Percy, if you think about it, was being brave when he deserted his family, just not brave for the right side. It must have taken a lot to go to the people he's respected and looked up to for so long, and tell them what he thought. Confrontations always take courage.

And while he was in London, he was being a bit of a Gryffindor as well. How many Gryffindors are able to forgive and forget easily? Harry hated and suspected Snape throughout the books, even though he knew he was on the good side and was working to help Harry.

For a true Slytherin, at least the pureblood ones, family is a very important thing. Do you think that Malfoy would suddenly decide that he wanted to do something different than the whole death eater thing, and just break away from his parents? Not likely. I can't see Blaze, Zambini, or Pansy doing something like that, either. What I'm getting at is, Percy was being a Gryffindor, albeit an undesirable one.

Hello!

You guys have all pointed out that Percy can be very brave, like deserting his family. You can't deny, though, that he still has a lot of the qualities that make a Slytherin. So I think he could still be a Gryffindor, but I don't think he would have made a bad Slytherin. I mean, for 2 or 3 books (from when he deserte the family to when he came back in book 7), he didn't do anything remarkably brave then, just wanted to make sure that nothing threatened his job and his reputation. I do think that in book 7 Percy was courageous and acted like a Gryffindor. He still might have been ambitious as he always was, but maybe he had gotten his priorities all straightened out, realized that he was wrong, and you have to be brave to admit that you were wrong, to apologize.

Another thing: Gryffindor is a very admirable house. I think Percy might have thought that he could be a Gryffindor, and live up to his Dad and Mom (he was only eleven ,then, right?) Maybe he valued bravery.

So maybe the Sorting Hat put Percy in the right house, maybe it did (forsaken_wolfess, thanks for all those Gryffindor qualities you wrote about Percy, made me think hard about this!)! Because some of Percy's deepest actions were what made him a Gryffindor in the end.

Very true, forsaken_wolfress, for as Dumbledore said himself "There are all kinds of courage. It takes a great deal of courage to stand up to our enemies, but just as much to stand up to our friends." I guess you could take that to mean family as well. Again, an excellent point youve made with Percy, forsaken_wolfess,you've really made me think. Its true that Percy did show a considerable amount of bravery, but not for the right reasons. Funny, we all seem to think that bravery is only bravery when its used for good. Varkatza brought up Hermione earlier, which made me wonder. Was Hermione placed in the right House? Should she perhaps have been placed in Ravenclaw?

Was Hermione placed in the right House? Should she perhaps have been placed in Ravenclaw?

I think Hermione was placed in the right house. In Gryffindor she learned that there are more important things than books and cleverness, like she said in the end of the Sorcerer's Stone, and I don't think she would've learned that if she had been in Ravenclaw, where there was no Ron and Harry to transform from her bossy, smart self, into a still bossy, smart self who knew that there were things more important. Did that make sense? All I'm saying is that Ron and Hary calmed Hermione down, in a manner of speaking. She was always (and always will be) a smart, slightly bossy person, but Hermione was a lot more than that, and Gryffindor helped bring that out of her! I hope that made sense!

M'kay basicly I've got three people who haven't been sorted properly.

The first of which is Draco Malfoy. He should be in Gyffiindor. Although he lies and cheats and generally causes mayhem he shows great bravery in Halfblood Prince as well as Deathly Hallows. I know many of you would not agree with me but had he diobey Voldie's orders his mother would have been killed and had he given up The Golden Trio he would have been safe which he didn't. It is honest to say he is brave. As for the lying, cheating mayhem causeing part of his excistence, do any of you really think that Fred and George never did any of that?

Second, is none other then Percy Weasley. I think that he should be in Slytherin. He gave up his family for his own personal gain even though he knew Voldie was back. He tried to save his own skin by being easily minpulated by his betters. He would gladly go against his loved ones for glory or to reach higher up on the ladder. He deserves Slytherin.

Lastly. as much as I love Lavender Brown, (not much) she deserves to be in Hufflepuff. She does nothing great in the books. No bravery shown except facing the wrath of Hermione after kissing Ron. I know she stays to fight in the Battle of Hogwarts but so did many other Hufflepuffs. She has shown only very little bravery but has much loyaty to her fellows therefore she should have been in HUfflepuff.

Hey just because she doesn't show alot of bavery doesn't make her Hufflepuff either. I am Huffleouff and I am plenty brave. Maybe she lacks it a bit, or it doesn't shine like the others, but remember as well that Griffyndor is soley based on courage either, there are other traits as well.

I think that Neville was sorted in the wrong house. I mean I had this discussion in my house thread, and I think that he deserved to be in Hufflepuff. Something about him says Hufflepuff as well, but he defiently near the ending of the series shows why he is in Griffyndor So he can be in both? Yes

I think that Cho was mis sorted as well. Not so smart to be a Ravenclaw and Cedric seemed more like a Griffyndor.

Sorry winky456, but I dont really agree there. Draco Malfoy, while he did show brave tendancies, were done purely to save his own skin, and the skins of his family. This is selfish bravery, and cannot really be compared to the selfless bravery shown by Harry, Ron, Hermione, Neville, and the other Gryffindors, who were willing to lay down their lives and fight to the death for what they believed was right. So while yeah, Draco was brave, the fact that he did for his own selfish reasons counteracts that; I think that Draco was sorted into the right house.

As for Percy Weasley, I agree; there were definate reasons for his being in slytherin. We agreed in discusison earlier that he could be either Gryffindor or Slytherin; there were some pretty thorough arguments to support his being in Gryffindor.

Now Lavender Brown, theres someone we have not discussed. I agree that she did not belong in Gryffindor, but I agree whole-heartedly with nicky (Go the Hufflepuff Pride!! ) in saying that her not being brave does not mean that she is a Hufflpuff. You know, I wonder if there should be another house, one for the Lavenders, Chos, Romildas etc of Hogwarts, the silly girls, who dont really fit in one of the other houses. Although, I can definately see Romilda in Slytherin; her plots for making Harry fall in love with her were pretty cunning and sneaky. Do you guys think Lavender was in the right house, and if not, where should she and her fellows be placed?

I believe that for the most part people are sorted into the right houses; it's just every now and then something big happens to alter the students as humans.

But the hat looks beyond how the students are as eleven year olds. We're hardly complete at eleven. Neville for instance was incredibly shy and full of self doubt but, that I believe, is due more to him being brought up by his formidable grandmother. Not to mention Neville has experienced some real trauma in his life-- dealing with his parents. Later on in the books Neville becomes noticably braver. However, it just seems he needed some encouragement from his friends to really find himself.

As for Cho, I don't really see her being in Ravenclaw but I don't know where else she'd go.

Wormtail was put into the wrong house. At first glance Wormtail seems like the Neville of his generation: clumsy, not very good at magic. But Wormtail only thinks in terms of protecting himself. He hung out with James and Sirius because they could protect him and later he clung to Voldemort because he could protect him more. Neville although full of self doubt definitely can think for himself. Wormtail never shows an instance or bravery-- cowardice is more prominent in his life. He isn't courageous or noble either.

Snape was obviously a victim of his own abjectly miserable childhood. Had he not been raised among dark wizards he may not have been put into Slytherin. As a young child he probably assumed his parents beliefs. But once he met Lily Evans things began to change for him. He began to realize being Muggleborn isn't so bad. From Snape's memories in DH we see that he waged his own internal war. Fighting what he was brought up on versus what he came to learn over time.

Percy, is kind of a prick. But he's not a bad person. He doesn't really seem power hungry- more like ambitious. True he got way too wrapped up in the MOM at the wrong time, but he came back. Which makes all the difference in the world. He's slightly blinded when it comes to authority figures. So, no I don't believe that warrants him being in Slytherin House. He's no Malfoy, Crabbe or Goyle.

Hermione is undoubtedly intelligent but after being friends with Harry and accompanying him on so many adventures her bravery and courage ranks just as high as her smarts.

As for all the extra people like Lavendar, Romilda etc. it shows that they have more in them than they display as teens. The hat looks beyond your current personality to what your capable or becoming I'm sure won't Lavendar giggle nearly as much when she's 25.

I sometimes think Hermione should have been in Ravenclaw, i know she definately showed how brave she is, and im not trying to deny it, but i think her wit has very often overshadowed her bravery.
I also think Snape could have been a Griffyndor or a Ravenclaw, he truly showed himself to be brave and unbelievably intelligent
Lastly, i don't really get why Slughorn was in Slytherin...i imagined he would be in Hufflepuff

You have a point, Phoenix Lament, Hermione's cleverness does sometimes overshadow her bravery, but I dont think that goes on past Book 1. Do you remeber what she said in Philosphers Stone? "Me, books and cleverness? There are more important things; friendship and bravery." Yes, she's very clever, but she is also incredibly brave, and from that quote it shows that she thinks that bravery is more important than cleverness. Which follows with the Choice thing we were discussing earlier.
As for Snape, that is a good point. He could definately have been placed in Gryffindor, but I think the Sorting Hat placed him more for choice, and his current attitude, than anything else.

I use to think that Hermione belong in the Ravenclaw house but then something that was said in my house thread made me think a little different. For some there are people ie. Hermione, that show a trait stronger than another. But this is what I think about her. Obviously we know that he is full of wit, and she has courage. But think about this... what which trait was stronger in her? Wit. We saw that from the beginning of the book. What I think is that the sorting hat saw that she was very intelligent, and saw that she had courage. Now here is my thoery on her. The sorting hat thought that she had enough wit that it didn't think that Ravenclaw could really giver her much. Like she has surpassed the rest of what a Ravenclaw is when sorted in, but he noticed that she has courage but it was weak a litttle. Like it was lacking so it probably thought that if she were in Gryffnindor it would help her bravery and courage. Like even out. So maybe the hat doesn't just pick a house that you OBVIOULSY belong in, but it looks deeper and sees what you're good and not good at. He tries to balance you out.

Like Harry, which will bring me to a question now. Harry's decision was taken into consideration becuase he was evenly balanced out as both Slytherin and Gryffindor. He didn't belong in any other because he just didn't have the traits to even start him. So it brings me to this question: Do you think Gryffindor suited Harry, or would Slytherin been better?

Now let's not be biased when answering. Put aside what we have seen from the Slytherin side and do this fairly, because remember Harry was really close to being in Slytherin. He did have it as an option. I will post my thoughts after a good amount of people answer (:


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EDIT: I just read what some of you wrote about Snape. To be quite honest I think that he was sorted in the right house. Now don't think that I am putting him down I am not but I think that I have some stuff to back up what I am saying. As much courage as you saw he had in Deathly Hallows, remember the small stuff. He wasn't always the one to trust and wasn't all THAT brave. He was smart but he wasn't all that book smart. Just potions and DADA. Slytherins are cunning. That's what Snape really was. He was able to be a "follower" of Voldemort while at the same time be slick and also be a spy. He did tell Voldemort about the prophecy, when he should have clearly known the what LV thinks. Snape only wanted to save Lily and didn't mind if the James and Harry were killed. Does that sound Gryffindorish to you? I mean even if it's out of love...? And so I have one more that I am hoping to read your thoughts on. Do you all think that Tom Riddle [Voldemort] was correctly placed in the right house? He was a Ravenclaw, just to let you know.

I strongly believe that Wormtail should not be in Gryffindor but he should have been in Slytherin. He does not deserve to be in Gryffindor where dwell the brave at heart..he should be in Slytherin where the cunning is there..And I think Luna should be in Gryffindor and Percy in Ravenclaw

Very good points as always Nicky *bows courteously* although I do have to mention, Riddle was a Slytherin. He was, after all, the heir. I do however think you have a point in regards to Hermione. I never thought of it in that way before, but I do think you had a good point in saying that the Hat was evening things out. Now, onto Mr Potter:

Do you think Gryffindor suited Harry, or would Slytherin been better?
There are two ways I could go with this answer, do you mean his personality was better suited for which house, or whether he was sorted into the right house? I'll start with the former, putting aside all bias in saying that I believe that Gryffindor was the right house for him. To avoid being bias, lets look at the qualities for each of these houses.

GRYFFINDOR: Brave and noble. Harry showed these qualities so many times throughout the books that it would take me about 12 posts to get it all in. He put aside his own personal safety aside in his attempt to save others, not just the people he loved but anyone who needed saving (See GoF with Fleur Delacour's sister). In terms of his own personaly well-being, he was willing to risk everything to do the right thing.

SLYTHERIN: Cunning, sly and ambitious. Harry did indeed show these qualities. He showed cunning in sneaking around Hogwarts during his school days, as well as outside Hogwarts; he was constantly plotting different schemes to aid him. And he did also show ambitiious tendancies, he would often be willing to break the rules in order to get what he wanted.

But if you look at these qualitites, which do you think was stronger in Harry? Bravery, no question, in my opinion. As for whether he was sorted into the right house, as Dumbledore said "it is not our abilities that show what we truly are; it is our choices". Harry chose Gryffindor, so that is where he was sorted. Also keep in mind that Harry was a horcrux at the time of his sorting, which highlighted his Riddle-like qualitites. Harry has doubts about this very issue in CoS; he wonders if he should have been sorted in Slytherin. By the end of the book, Dumbledore, using the quote I mentioned earlier, told him that his choice of Gryffindor was the right one. He also showed him that the sword he pulled out of the hat was Gryffindors, which again showed that he belonged there.
Okay, I'll stop waffling now

-Ali

Hmm, I was pretty sure that Tom was sorted a Ravenclaw. I am going to google that now. Alright back. What I found was that although Tom was the heir of Slytherin he was sorted in Ravenclaw, and the only reason was because he was half-blood, Slytherins are the only house that don't accept half-bloods or of course muggle-borns. They wanted pure blood... So his question is pretty much done and answered. And I meant in which house do you think should Harry have been? I know that choices are taken in consideration, that's what landed Harry in Gryffindor (:


Personally I think the same thing that I said Hermione applies for Luna. I think Luna already has courage in her but she too was intelligent and that needed more working. Besides I really do think that Luna was more brains than brawns Percy, hmm, I think that Percy was sorted in Gryffindor and I think he was sorted... *hears others yell WHAA-?!* Please don't hurt me But I do think so. Wormtail didn't even deserve to go to Hogwarts let's put it like that.

Where did you find this? Because everywhere I look he is a Slytherin. Most people use the reasoning that he is a relative of Salazar Slytherin to excuse his blood. So if you could provide a link or quote that'd be nice.


-Nick
HJP

Hmmm...? Well that's odd, I have found numerous websites, and they say either he was Slytherin sorted or Ravenclaw sorted. I thought Ravenclaw because I could've sworn that I read that in one of the Harry Potter books... Well I will continue searching...

I'm almost positive that he went to Slytherin. I thoguht I read he was named Slytherin Prefect in one of the books. I think it was when Dumbledore is telling Harry that he was prefect and head-boy.

Also, I think that most houses are focused around those characteristics that we know so well. However, I think that what is the final role in the sorting is their biggest personality trait. Such as, LV was evil to the core and HP was basically everything Slytherin was not.


-Nick
HJP

That is not true. I remember Dumbledore saying in HBP that Tom was a Slytherin. He was not in Ravenclaw. And in Chamber of Secrets and HBP Slughorn Memory also Tom has the Slytherin Badge in his robes. And he was in the dungeons. And Hagrid also says in Harry s first year that You Know Who himself was a slytherin. I dont know whether it is Hagrid or Ron Who says that but he does say that.

Oh well thank you for clearing that up. I don't know where I got Ravenclaw from hmm, well then this goes to show that I miss on the small details. Thank you.

Unless nicky wants to inform us of her view of Harry's sorting (hint hint ), I have someone else to bring to attention. A few people have mentioned Luna in their posts, saying she should be in Gryffindor, but what do you think? In which house did Luna belong? I'm inclined to believe she was sorted into Ravenclaw for the right reasons, a lot of what she says was incredibly wise and mature, but I'd love to hear what you think!
--Ali

I am sorry all for that Riddle sorting misinformation I guess I had a brainfart. I have no clue where I got Ravenclaw from.
But I agree that Luna was sorted in thr right house as well. I think that she is like Hermione. If you are in the Hermione fanclub then you would know what I mean. I think that Luna has courage and wits. Her courage is stronger than wits, but I think that if in Ravenclaw it would balance her out. Or she can do so much more with her smarts in Ravenclaw.

Oh, yes, Luna is most definitely in the right place! She is intelligent in so many ways...she understands people and knows when to just leave them alone to their thoughts...she doesn't let anyone get in the way of being who she is, she's smart enough to realize that 'people can laugh' but that it shouldn't affect her, and that's a great thing for people to know, that they can be themselves. I think that's all part of being wise. So yes, she belongs.

And about the Riddle sorting thing? Well, in the first book I think somebody (ROn?) said'Not a witch or wizard who went bad wasn't in Slytherin' didn't he? Or am I just crazy/

Sorry for chainging person's already, but I was in a thread that made me think of these two people.

Bil and Charlie. We noticed some of the description of what kind of people they were in Hogwarts. Do you think that they had the ability and traits to be in any house or just Griffyndor? Were they well rounded like a Hufflepuff with all traits, smart like a ravenclaw, cunning like a Slytherin, or [of course we know] courageous like a Gryffindor?

Just asking out of curiousity.

Yes, bookworm_1918, that's exactly right, Slytherin!

I'll keep my opinion short and simple on this i could go on forever on this topic, but i feel most of the harry potter characters had been sorted correctly, but i still have this nagging opinion shoved in the back of my mind that Peter Pettigrew should have been placed in slytherin, he's a dirty traitor and and a coward, he doesn't seem to posses the qualities required for gryffindor.

I also sometimes wonder about Hermione, she has the brains fit for Ravenclaw but shows the bravery of a Gryffindor, who knows.

Rach

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I think the only reason that Pettigrew was placed in Gryffindor is because of James. If he was placed in Slytherin, James would not have been friends with him, leading to James and Lily staying in hiding, and not being found by Lord Voldy

i see your point snapefan21
still confused ever so slightly though maybe it's the finishing of GCSE exams that have done it, have been without education for what, 6 weeks now, i'll be replenished once i'm in 6th form i suppose

yeah that was kind of confusing
But, really though, don't you think that's why?
I mean, James loathed Slytherins so much, so he couldn't have befriended Peter....

yh that's true, i just wondered why the sorting hat never saw his potential traits initially,
haha but oh well, that's what the sorting hat did isn't it

Well Harry went, "Not Slytherin, no anything but Slytherin" and didn't get Slytherin
so maybe Pettigrew went "Please Gryffindor, Please!!!" and got it? Maybe, I dont know

haha, i like that view yeah that's makes a lot of sense.

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