I was drifting off topic in the 'Lupin's Patronus' thread, but I touched on something over there that I wanted to discuss far more broadly and the current threads that exist are solely for Ginny, Lupin's, Snape's and 'your' patronuses, so this one is going to be for just about any animagus/patronus discussions about the characters.......

Anyway....

There was a website I found called 'The Animal In You' (Link here) which basically assesses the type of animal that reflects your personality and thus might be the basis on which JKR chooses to assign the animagus/patronus forms.

I mentioned Hermione's otter in the other thread so I won't repeat it here, but there's also Harry's stag and Dumbledore's Phoenix that we know about. I don't think there are many others, are there? I mean, that website is for real animals so obviously phoenixes won't be there, but maybe the bird aspects will be reflected in DD's personality? I was thinking that maybe we could work out what a lot of the characters patronus or animagus forms would be....

I mean, filling in that personality test thing with Snape's sort of attributes led to his patronus being either a warthog **snickers uncontrollably** or a crocodile....which I thought was kind of interesting, particularly when I noticed that the following was said about deers (stags...same thing)...

well according to JKR, your Patronus reflects what you think will protect you and your animagus reflects your personality.

So, I guess I'll begin with Ronald Weasley. I think of his animagus form as being something that immediately connotes loyalty (like Sirius was a dog...i.e. man's best friend (tear) ) Anyway, Ron's personality is loyal so I was thinking of something along those lines. I have no idea what Ron feels would protect him. My best guess is something maybe related to Dumbledore or Harry.

Hagrid's Animagus ithink would be a Gorilla and his patronus would be a dog (like Fang).

That's it from me for now. See ya

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Well, I'm a mix of a Porcupine, a Vultre and possibly a Hippo. Hum, well none of those match, so I guess I can't do that spell :'( .

Back to HP:

I always see the Stag as being nobel and responsible. I was particularly anoid when watching PoA for the second time, after having read the book (post first watch). The stag should be the ones to remove the dementors, not a light pulse. Anyways, I'm side tracking.

I feel that the Patronus' are the representation (in the readers eye, not according to that site) of the good qualities of the character, rather than an overview of the whole personallity.

Take the otter for example; I see an otter as being clever and resourceful with what it has, being self sustaining within its environment. And maybe at disfortune when it's habitat is altered :-S

Maybe DD will be reborn for the ashes?? (As a ghost or memory at least)

I've always thought the result would show that I'm somewhat a docile animal... like a deer, or a dolphin... but surprisingly, I'm a wildcat, apparently... and it's really terrifiying to say the least at how accurate is read out for me... (I mean, if I'm to choose I would go for dolphin! **tee hee** looks like there's loads I need to learn about myself... )

Back on topic...

Sorry, where do I take this test?
when I click the link above, I only see where I can buy the "Animal in you" book, so please help me out..

It's here ---> The animal in you personality test.

Try it with other person too... like a HP character. You might be able to guess it right!

I've just been to that link Dana_Scully posted and it worked fine for me. You have to scroll down, that's all. But Zyra123's link works too, so.....whatever...

hmm, well, thats interesting. It said that I was either a gorilla or a porcupine. I didn't think of either of those but hey. Not my choice.
I guess there are some things I need to learn...

I was supposed to be either a snake or mountain goat, but I chose the snake because it really worked better for me.

Thy Animal Personality

I also think that for me, it could also be my animagus form if this was also the HP world. And then maybe the Mountain Goat could be my patronus. XD

Woah, now....this is getting a little off topic, isn't it? This is not about YOUR patronuses/animagi forms, it's about the character's. There are other threads where you can do your own. The point behind this one was to use the quiz to try and work out, based on what we know of characters' personalities, what their patronuses/animagus forms might be.

I'm going to revive this thread because I just had a thought that I don't recall being mentioned outside of the Lupin/Tonks shipping thing, but I think it's worth broadening it out into a general thing about patronuses...

I didn't know that Patronuses could change, which clearly they can if Tonks' did. Personally, I always thought that they reflected your feelings and personality...Harry's patronus is a stag because it represents his father's animagus form which is a symbol of protection - why Tonks' should therefore be a..well...four legged thing....I don't know...does she think Lupin will protect her? OMG, he's not going to die protecting her, is he?!

Anyway...if the patronuses change, and that's how the Order communicates with each other, it's liable to get just a tad confusing, isn't it? I thought they reflected a deeper seated personality thing than just who you happened to fancy at the time....(not that Harry fancied his Dad....ewwww.....but you know what I mean..

Any thoughts?

hmm...well...that does make sense. If the patronus' can change, how does the order know the difference if someone's patronus has changed, or if its someone else's, say, a death eaters? or just a mistake?

I have always wondered how they communicate with the patronuses. does one thing a patronus do mean something, or what? any thoughts on that as well?

hmm...

oh well, I'll be thinking on that!

ta,
-karsh-

Patronuses are not really fully explained in how they are picked, but I think it has to do with someone who feels protective of you. Harry didn't choose the patronus that he had, it just happened. What if the person that feels the most protective of you somehow releases some kind of energy and that energy is then channeled into a patronus?

It would work for Harry, and for Tonks (Remus' whole thing about not wanted to be in a 'ship with her is for her protection in his mind).
So I think we need to analyze all of the patronuses that we have encountered. I know DD's is a phoenix, and that makes sense to me as well, because Fawkes is DD's 'familiar' in a way, and therefore a protector. Also the word patronus is from the root patron which is someone who takes care of you, and watches over you. You don't always get to pick your patrons in this world.

I agree with Guin, its not fully explained. I think it goes by your personality or somewhere along those lines. Like the animal. I came out to be a WOLF, as I expected. Wolves are my favourite animals and I sometimes act like them, maybe thats how your patronus is picked?

hey, this is a cool topic!
for anyone who cares to know, I'm a mole. and i get along best with a bat(?)
this was a great site.thanx!

I guess I'm some wild animal ;o Wolf would be cool.. : >>

taking the test -->

"You are either a Zebra or a Bear personality.
But you may also be a Wolf personality" YAY WOLF!! Bear is cool too and I kinda understand why .. .but zebra? ;S

i think Tonks's Patronus changed because she failed in the department of mysterys and maybe she thinks lupin protected her. i no that it is silly to think this because there is so many Patronuses that dont represent other people. but something that Michelle Dessler said, got to me
if harry's Patronus is his dad and his dad died protecting him maybe there is a clue there that lupin will die protecting tonks, there is the whole maurder influence there as well...

I came out as an owl or wolf in that quiz. You can see in my signature what the Veritaserum forums have labeled me. I suppose I could be thought of as an owl or wolf. I have characteristics of both I suppose. I like the forums better. I like the connection to the magical world.

Woh, maybe Lupin will die defending Tonks! I never thought about that, oh no! *runs under the covers yelling 'don't let it be so'* Ok, *takes a few deep breaths* about the Patronus changing and then that getting confusing, Patronuses don't change often, it is rare for that to happen so I am sure that they Order doesn't have too many problems. Plus, Snape knew that it was Tonk's Patronus so they must have some way of knowing whose is whose even if they have never seen it before.

I took that test and it said that I was a wild cat, a baboon, or maybe a rooster. Those are all kind of opposite, but I think that I will go with wild cat!

If Patronuses (?) are picked by the caster, why was Harry's a stag? He never knew his dad, let alone that he was an animagus. And while James did die to protect Harry, it would make more sense if his patronus had something to do with his mom, since that's where he got his most important protection from. I think that your patronus is a manifestation of a desire, kind of like the mirror of Edrised. That's why Tonk's changed. She wants to be with Lupine more than anything. And think of how badly Harry has always wanted to be like James. How the actual form is decided I don't know, and this doesn't hold up for DD or Hermione, though I suppose we don't know enough about them, except that an otter is a member of the Weasel family. Just my 2 cents. Oh, and I'm a horse, according to that test. Or a fox. Though I agree more with the horse.

I think we need to look at this from a different perspective. Who has a patronus that we can identify the form of?
Harry - stag
Tonks - wolf?
Dumbledore - Phoenix
Hermione - Otter*
Cho Chang - Swan*
Ron - Jack Russell Terrier* (fiesty little devils aren't they?)

Now based on this, that is how we need to determine how a patronus is determined. (sorry for using that word twice, could be confusing) Who else can we add to this list that we know for sure what their patronus is? And what can we take from this list?

* got this info from the HP Lexicon the others I remembered from the books.

Well, I've been looking at that list and trying to figure this out and the only thing I can come up with is that the form must be something comforting to the caster, though how that's determined I can't begin to say. I mean, Tonks would be comforted by Lupine, DD by Fawkes, Harry by his dad (though how he knew the stag thing I don't get)...I really can't think of anything that really fits in well for all of the variables here. Anyone else want to have a go?

I know other people should have a chance at this, so I'm just going to say this. Read the last few chapters of POA. Dumbledore explains how a patronus is determined. It's a bit vague, but it makes sense.

ciao for now!

Weird, I'm either a zebra or a eagle or perhaps a rooster according to the test... But it was far to less questions to determine according to me, i always sees myself as a cat or more to the point a lynx...

I don't think that it is really far fetched for Harry's patronus to be a stag. If you look at a deeper meaning behind some of the characters...Voldemort is the ultimate evil. I'm not sure Harry is the ultimate good as he seems to be more balanced between good and evil. I think it is that balance we're meant to look at. In ancient western religions the stag is a protector like Harry. The stag also represents the Green Man who is another god like figure that is the balance of nature. The Green Man is lord of the hunt just as Harry hunts Voldemort. I may be getting a bit deep here but given that I believe Rowling is British she may be very familiar with the old druid and pagan lores. I found it interesting and cool when I learned Harry's patronus was a stag because it seems to fit with what I know about ancient religions. I find that study interesting because as an american we don't live with that same history as other cultures being a newer country. Feedback?

Thanks Guin, I'll take the time to look that up. And Dreamwalker, I'm sure that JKR has some knowledge of that sort. Thanks for all the info!

hey frnds
i was just wondering,well its a little wierd,but in HBP it is said that tonks patronus is a 4-legged weak creature after sirius' death. but do any1 here know wat it was before?if yes pleeeaaaase tell me
vidhi

i thought you chose ur animagus? didn't sirius and james chose bigger animals so they could deal with lupin? i don't know my patronus but my animagus is a shadow dragon.

-peace-

lol i checked mine and i was surprised
I got a baboon or an otter(Hermione?), but i could also be a penguin.
I got really diverse answers, and then the otter thing.
I wonder what Voldemorts patronus would be or animagus if he had one. He might not need a patronus though cuz the dementors are for him. lol maybe his patronus whould be himself or one of his horcruxes. I wonder if u could turn into something thats not an animal for an animagus. Like Vmort becomes a dementor or a vampire (read about it on another thread) but his would probably be a snake. lol if Ron does a patronus and it turns into Harry and then "Won-Won" falls in love lol. What about Snape?
O ya to add to that stag thing. If any of you have seen Princess Mononoke bu Myazaki then there is a God which protects the forest. It is sort of like the main God and it gives life. The God looks like a deer/stag. They might have taken it from the same thing that J.K. did.

Lightsbane - yes, you choose your animagus, but we were discussing Patronuses, which apparently is not something you choose, but is something that seems to just sort of get assigned based on what loves you the most (my interpretation).

It said I'm probly a porcipine or vulture I don't think either of them suit me

This is a great thread. Kudos to the originator.

I think Harry's patronus was stag because at the time he cast it, he was only thirteen. He hadn't really come into himself yet, and was relying on what he knew, either consciously or not. His animagus? I can't really call anything on that yet.
As for myself, it's the patronus I can't call. That site said I was a bat, but an owl would be a bit more appropriate.

I took the quiz and I am a Porcupine (sp) - I closed the tab before copying/pasting anything. I did read the description and it hits on key... that's amazing!

Anyways, I read a couple of posts (not all... the first 4 and the last 3) to be honest. I don't recall seeing Cho's in there, her patronus is a Swan, her animagus I am not to sure on, I can her being bird of sorts...

Someone had suggested that Neville's is a volture - I can see that one...
Hermiones' animagus could be a cat, where as her patronus being a Tiger (staying with the cat family)
Ron's patronus - I envision this one being something big, maybe an elephant where his animagus would be something loyal like a dog...

That's all I can think of for now...

Well, Harry's being a stag was probably something to do with the fact that that was his father's Animagus. Hermione's Patronus is an otter, says so in OotP, but I can't really explain that one. . . I think that Ron's would probably be a bear or aomething like that because he's loyal, but kind if clumsy, you know? Maybe Neville's would be. . . Hmmm . .

WOW, whoever started this thread-- hats off to you, brother. *nods* Or sister, lol.

But yeah... on the test I scored as "bat", and I really think it fits me to a tee. (I never much considered myself one, but WOW am I like one....).

Anyways, back to HP--- you REALLY, REALLY thoguht this one through, didn't you? lol.

Well, seeing as you covered most all of the points (not much to argue here!!), I do suppose you are right--- about the vulture thing and all-- how the vulture came to his rescue with Snape and the whole boggart thing. haha. But yeah.... WOW, you thought this one through so much to say I'm speechless. hehe.

I got an owl.. yeah, definately an owl.

I have the whole zoo going on over here! The test says I have an elephant personality. My patronus is a jaguar, and my animagus is a white hen. I wonder if there is a significance in my patronus and animagus form being so different from each other!?

it said that i am either a warthog or a tiger and well i read them...
the tiger was obviously not me and the warthog only had one attribute taht wasnt like me so i am a warthog (ugly yes )

ANIMAGUS

ron: bat or snake and i decided he was deffinetly a bat.

harry: wolf it only gave one choice and most like him but not fully...

Hermione: otter or shrew possibly a penguin i say: deffinetly shrew

Neville: mole one choice again... almost deffineetly

snape: mole for him to.. i dont think so tho...

dumbledore: badger one again very much like him

Fred/George: crocodile deffinetly

When I took the test I got Zebra, and I am almost exactly like the description. I'm not sure what my anigmus, or Patronus is but hopefully they explain me well.

I think that Ron's patronous wuuld be something strong, big and powerful like possibly a bear, elephant or rhinoserous (sp). because he is kinda of intimidated by bigger, more rich famous or popluar people. The big animal would make him feel strong.

Also, I think a patronous represents something that would pretect you.

i teyed the test on the website and it sed myn would be a cat dog or rabbit

th eone thing that i don't get about patronuses/animagus is that both of them are supposed to be the animal that represents you best. how can two animals represent you best? urgh...i'm confused

because it is so close to 1 animal and another animal at the same time

Well according to that sight I'm a wild dog or a sheep, although I may also be a Beaver!
Thanks, this is a great idea!

Actually, Ron's patronus is a dog, a Jack Russell Terrier

I think it was cool we got to see Ginny's Patronus in the Ootp film, something that was never in the books, but was created by JK Rowling herself... and we saw Luna's Patronus (a hare) too before DH came out... I don't know I just thought that was cool!

There was a question how could two different animals represent you the best. In my opinion, animagus represents you strong sides (not pros and cons!), while patronus you weaknesses. Animagus is your selfprojection, you choose it' s form by what you want to be like, while patronus is the way it is...it's form is composed from things you hide inside of you, usually fears, hopes, dreams...

Well I am either a Weasel or a Porcupine. But it seems I may also be a Bear personality. Well its really not my choice and I dont know how I feel about that.

These are my results

Congratulations. (You passed The Animal in You Test.)
You are either a Wild Dog or a Tiger personality.
But you may also be a Baboon personality.

I looked at all the descriptions and I can't pick the best fit. They actually all have elements that are important characteristics in my life. Social, humorous, self confident, smart, blunt, energetic, competitive, powerful, engaging, I wont back down from a fight or challenge etc.

I took the test on that site and I came up with this....

Congratulations. (You passed The Animal in You Test.)

You are either a Horse or a Walrus personality.
But you may also be a Baboon personality.