Sorry if there's a topic about this, but I was just wondering,

Since the trio learns to apparate in sixth year (as said in previous books) how do they learn to apparate because you can't practiceit on Hogwarts land?

Well, any thoughts?

Are you sure Harry, Ron, and Harry can learn how to Apparate in there sixth year?
Percy only passed his test the summer after he left Hogwarts and Fred and George only passed there test going into there last year of Hogwarts in the Order of the Phoenix.

I'd say Harry, Ron and Hermione will probably learn how to Apparate in there summer holidays in a sort of week intensive course of Apparation lessons with a test at the end.

But if your right about the sixth year thing maybe learning how to Apparate is the ‘more pleasanter reason’ (than a court case) for leaving 4 Privet Drive mentioned by JK Rowling.

right and Fred and George arfe two years older than the Trio, so if they just learned how as the trio was entering their 5th year, than the twins were just entering their 7th year. This means that they learned the previous year. Thus they learned during 6th year, which leaves me still confused.

Yeah I'm not sure either... Fred and George weren't old enough for Goblet when they were in 5th year, because you had to be 17... so, assuming this is right Harry won't be 17 until right before his 7th year. Then the apparating thing clearly doesn't make sense. Ok, well maybe the twins were old for their age and turned 18 before their last Hogwarts year... gosh this is really confusing. because this still wouldn't make sense why Percy only learned the year he was out of Hogwarts... and then the twins learned before their last year. Maybe it's a lottery type thing?? once you're of age you get chosen to take your test by a lottery?? (doesn't make much sense).... hmm well maybe since Fred and George were trouble makers they were late getting to hogwarts (parents and staff wanted them to mature a little??) so say they were 12 in their first years...maybe that's why they learned before their 7th year when Percy learned after his 7th. Well hey that does make sense then.... maybe Percy just has a late birthday compared to Fred and George's April 1st. But see this still perplexes me... weren't the champions chosen in Goblet on Halloween?? and George and Fred tried to trick the goblet, well they said they only needed a little because they were a month off... but that doesn't make sense then with their birthday being April 1st. Hmmm or maybe it was Lee Jordan who said that?? I don't know I'm so confused... but I guess, well maybe now the LV is back, they will teach the kids to apparate earlier so that could be a possibility for Harry to leave early. Well sorry this was so disorganized but I just kinda went with what was in my head at the moment...

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I think that they can learn to Apparate once they turn 17, so it would depend on when the character's birthday falls. Hermione could begin to learn Apparation--provided there is somewhere it is taught--when she turns 17 in September of her 6th year. Harry's 17th birthday isn't until the summer before his 7th year, so I think he's out of luck until then.

We've never heard anything about "Apparation Ed" at Hogwarts, but maybe that's just because none of the trio has been old enough. They teach children how to ride brooms, so they might teach Apparition too. Maybe Madame Hooch teaches it, since we haven't seen her do much at Hogwarts except give 1st years flying lessons and ref Quidditch matches.

If there isn't a special room for Apparition practice at Hogwarts, then it might be held in Hogsmead, or just outside the grounds.

I suppose they can learn before they're 17. It's only the test that they can take at 17, right? There's nothing to stop them practising before - just like driving. You have to be at least 17 to sit the test (and, theoretically, to learn too because you can only get your provisional when you turn 17).

Anyway, I'm sure their parents taught them or something. There aren't any classes in Hogwarts, are there?

The thing is Hermione wouldn´t be able top take her Apparating test until the beginning of their 7th year because her birthday is in September, so she would turn 17 when they are already at Hogwarts.

I was just thinking about harrys wand and how it could help him when i thoght about it's core. It's core is a tail feather from fawkes and fawkes seems to have the power to move at will through hogwarts, so through his wand do you think harry will gain this power, the power to apparate through hogwarts at will.

This started as my own thread but it was closed and told to move it here.

^ Well I don't think so because apperating doesn't require a wand.

Now as for this whole confusion as to why Fred and George could do it befor their seventh year.

They could do it because their birthday is somthing like five months into the school year, which means thay turned eleven in the middle of the school year. which meant that they had to wait until the next year to get into Hogwarts, so they were almost twelve when they started their first year. So their older than a normal student in their year would be. Which means they come of age while their still at school, on the other hand Percy was born like right before the school year starts. So he had to wait until after his seventh year because he didn't turn 17 long enough before the start of school to learn how to apperate. Where as Fred and George turned 17 in the middle of their sixth year and therefore were alowd to do as much magic as they wanted and learn to apperate in the summer between their sixth and seventh years.

harry's not that good. he wont be able to apparate. the pheonix thing is a good point though. never put anything past jkr.

I agree with what you said, Ghost, but Fred and George weren't almost 12 when they entered their first year. They entered their first year in 1989, and that year was the year they turned 11, in April...so they had to wait until 1990 to turn 12..

Anyway, I always thought that a group from the Ministry of Magic taught everyone how to Apparate. I don't think schools teach Apparation because with all of the age differences, it might be hard to keep track of who gets to be taught it, and who doesn't. Plus, the teachers want to make everything fair for everyone, and if they're at school and learning Apparation, the younger seventh years (maybe some sixth) would feel cheated because their friends get to learn it and they don't.

I think apparating is only learned over the summer because it can't be done at Hogwarts.

When can students perform magic at home. Do they have to graduate first? Is it an age limit? Is apparating the type of magic they aren't allowed to perform?

SUDDEN BURST OF THOUGHT!!! J.K. Rowling said that Harry leaves for 'pleasenter' reason from the Dursley's. Someone earlier pointed out that the Apparation test might happen during the summer. So maybe Harry goes and takes his test! That would be soooo cool!

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You have to be 17 to learn to apparate, and you learn how to at the ministry. I do beleive there is something in OoTP that says Apparition Office and Test Center in the ministry. Fred and Geogre turned 17 in April, 6th year. I will turn 17 April 11th grade. I would turn 12 during 1st year, or 6th grade. Percy didn't learn till after because he had his birthday after he got to Hogwarts in his 7th year and wouldn't be able to learn because he was at hogwarts, which would be just like my brother. He turned 17 just before school started in 12th grade.

And according to mugglenet Hermione is 16, Ron is 16, and Harry is 15 by the end of OoTP. So Hermione and Ron will be able to do magic at home for the whole summer after year six and Harry partway through the summer after year 6.

Well it depends what Apparation requires doesn't it. I mean how does it really work. Do you think I want to be somewhere and your there. Its not a spell exactly... But Harry wanted to be away from the Dursleys so bad, and he didn't apparate. You can't really answer this question unless you learn how Apparation is done.

If they learn how to apparate in the summer between 6th year and 7th year, then that means that they'd be around 16 and 17, but Hermione is already 17 in her entire 6th year, so that means she could have taken her test in the summer between 5th year and 6th year. (she's 1 year older than Ron and Harry)

Hermione wouldn't be able to apparate unless she left Hogwarts for a day to take the test at the ministry. Her birthday is in September and the first day of Hogwarts is Sept. 1, and since Hermione never left to take it, she can't apparate as of yet.

Hmmm....

I wondered about this whole thing the other day, and asked here about it. I thought it would be cool if the pleasant reason Harry left would be to learn it, but was rebuffed by more knowledgible people. He won't be able to learn it until the summer between book 6 and 7.

I think that when a witch or wizard turns 17, they don't have to learn to apparate until the choose to - like learning to drive (i'm 25 now and still don't have my license lol). So maybe Ron and Hermy-oh-ninny postpone it until Harry turns 17, so they can all three take the test together.

Also, it would be a very powerful skill to learn and I think that JK is saving this for the grand finale. I know I read somewhere that JK said that Harry would be more powerful in the later 2 books, but I dont think this is one the things that will make him more powerful (at least, not in book 6 anyway).

Also also, I doubt that DD would want Harry knowing how to Apparate anyway, considering the new dangers that the living, breathing Voldemort will present.

And it's an interesting idea that the Phoenix feather in Harry's wand might allow him to Apparate within the walls of Hogwarts, just as Fawkes does - but I doubt it somehow. They're very magical creatures, and I think that they don't actually Apparate as such, but use some kind of innate magical ability that is similar.

I think if they learn how to apparate it will be in the summer between 6th year and 7th year.

Didn't read the whole thing, but maybe they can take their tests but can't apparate until they pass it.

red and Goerge were 17 when the finished their 3rd year I think, so Harry will probebly learn how to do that in the summer vacation of the seventh book.
I think that they go to the MoM and there they have a test

Meant I didn't read the whole discussion. Wouldn't doubt it would be in the MoM. Whats the point of not being able to apparate into Hogwarts if there are other ways of getting there quickly? Sorry if this was brought up already.