Well I also agree she's not important in the script but I think they should introduce her instead of her just appearing *poof* out of thin air

Hello again.

So many questions ... i'm not sure which to answer first. but i think i'll think about the movie taglines. I'm not sure what i would want, but i did like the "Forbidden to remember; Terrified to forget", because it is a main theme in NM. Bella afraid to hold onto Edward because it hurts too much, but can't bring herself to let go. It fits, i reckon.

But i also like "It will be as if i never exsisted". Because that's awesome too! Oh i don't know ... they can chose any, i don't mind.

I really wish Leah would be in the movies, as i really do like her character. Obviously she has a main-ish sort of part in BD, but i don't think it'll matter too much if she's not in ... and i definately hope Vanessa Hudges isn't it. For some reason, i can't imagine her acting all wolfish.

A lot of my friends are having trouble trying to find New Moon here in NZ. Basically every bookshop in my town have no copies in until March! I guess i'm lucky i bought them back in April 08, before they were even known here.

Long live Twilight!

Jill it is true that they should at least introduce her in the NM.

Mod Edit: Can I remind you about the one liner rule? Please could you elaborate in future posts. Thanks

No Rosie dear the won't poof up Bill for Hbp because Fluer isn't in is

So yeah I really think they should introduce her so people have some clue who she is

I am sorry if I pulled an off topic. I can have many things in my head at once.
So I was just browsing the internet reading about NEW MOON news and I came across an interview with Stephanie Meyer and they asked her if there was another book sometime in the future what it could be about and she said that if she would continue she would do it around Leah's character. Your thoughts?
I think it would be kind of cool to actually see if Leah ever does imprint.

Yeah I read that too... I'd like to read it if she ever does write it...Leah does interest me and I would also like to see her imprint

I just bought the twilight soundtrack on Itunes

I like the idea of her writing another book and if it's about Leah, I'd read it too. I did like Leah in the books. But I hope it would touch on some of the other characters as well. Kind of sneak them in here and there so we know how everyone else is doing LOL. It would be neat to see if Leah imprints and with who!

As for the movie. I think they should at least introduce her. People that haven't read the books won't be able to tell, but we all know how weird it would be to see Leah just pop up out of know where later on down the road.

I've always hated how the movies misconstrue books. They did it bad with OoTP. I'm the type of person that will be like..What! That wasn't in the book..or Why did they keep that out!! Instead of enjoying the movie LOL. Oh Well, I guess we'll have to wait and see.

Dawn

I bought the Harry Potter books in german today and opened them to find adverts for the Twilight books at the back. Nooooooooooooooooooooooooooo!!!!!!!
They are known as the 'Liebe mit Biss' series in German which means 'love with a bite'.

VAMPIRES DON'T SPRAKLE!!!!

I'm taking it that you don't like twilight....*Shrugs* The only thing that bugs me about your post is that the light colors in which you posted make it hard to read...

Dawn I'm like that too! I have a lot of trouble enjoying a movie when I'm thinking about the books.

We were goofing off at my swim meet today and we bought an apple and started taking pictures of it in everyone's hands. Ah, it's fun being around people who read Twilight

Jilly bean,
awfully sorry for the over-use of bright colours, I was on a bit of a sugar rush when I wrote that
I can't say I do like Twilight and that is for a number of reasons. *expects to get stoned by Twilight fans here*
It was written for a female teenage audience, neither of which categorie I can empathise with. It wouldn't have been so bad for me if they had used any other actor for the film than Rob Pattinson. I loathe him for very legitimate reasons. I cannot stand the author's style, she writes as if she's having a permenant daydream. And where did the 'sparkly' come from?

Well each to their own and carry on enjoying the series to those of you out there who like it, that's just my two bob's worth.

Ah that's okay about the colors...

Well I know some guys who read it but not nearly as many guys as girls... I think that the day dream style is kinda fitting, I mean how many girls actually manage to find a vampire in real life...I'm betting those odds are a little small...and If you don't mind me asking why do you hate Rob Patterson?

*Jilly*

Ps. I won't stone you, you seem to be willing to discuss kindly...I hope

I'm always for polite discussion^^
I heard that the author was inspired to write the books after having a dream about a scene in a forest. Fair enough if it's the way she wrote it.
As to finding a vampire in real life, surely it helps if you don't sparkle... and depending on what legends you believe, you aren't likely to find one unless you are nocturnal. I do find it interesting that the author makes her vampires immune to sunlight although this idea isn't all that original. In the Saga of Darren Shan the vampires can move in the sunlight but can end up with a sunburn if out too long.
The author could have made her books more appealing to a wider audience by taking a bit more of a realistic approach to her writing style, for example, everyone seems to love the main character at her first appearance even though they barely know her or not at all.

As for my unashamed loathing of Rob Pattinson, I had the extreme misfortune of meeting him about a year or two after GoF came out in the cinema. He was the most arrogant, rude person I have ever met and that's saying something. That encounter pretty much ruined Cedric in GoF film for me. He was directly horrible to me and my work colleague at the time with absolutely no grounds for his actions.

If my comments on Twilight bother you please let me know, I'm not here to ruin things for others, I just like talking

i know edward SPARKLES i mean come on!!!! it just looked photoshopped in the movie grr!!

ok that was my rant

the books are so much better though. i mean with harry potter they made it more relevant to the book!!

oo im feeling rant-ish
haha see you soon

I was also really looking forward to Edward sparkling and became disappointed at the CGI or whatever they used on him. It looked extremely fake and to me, it wasn't very beautiful. I am a huge fan of the books though.

Yesterday I was going through some cast interviews and it shocked me how very different Rob and Kristen seem. What I mean, is they were both maybe more shy in the beginning of the process and they aren't so much now.

I think they should definitely show Leah. Before I start on the reasons why though, let me point out that we already have an example of what they're leaving out in the film. That's bad news that we already have something to complain about.

Anyway, Leah could easily be put in the script and introduced now, rather than in Eclipse when it's like, oh leah was the daughter of that guy who died in the last movie, and everybody will be like 'Who was Harry clearwater?'. Do you get what I'm saying. That is a reason why the script must stay true to the movies. People will forget about minor details that happen in previous movies. Since it is so easy and natural to put Leah into the script for New Moon, I just don't get why they're insisting on waiting.

That's correct, the story came to her in a dream, and I think that explains the 'permanent daydream' you're talking about

Well I was kind of kidding about finding a vampire in real life, but hey I'd e drawn to any guy that 'sparkled' what ever he was...it's just how I am. But I think it makes it interesting that, like all vampire stories, the Cullens can't go out in the sun, but not for the same old reason.

I guess the reason the books appeal to me is partly due to the fact that they aren't terribly realistic...I mean we live with realistic every day...a little fantasy makes life exciting right(although on everyone in Forks liking Bella I think it's just that she's something new to look at, at my school we've all been together since pre-school, so something new to look at is a celebration)

I am terribly sorry about your experience with Rob Patterson, it stinks that he ruined Cederic for you, and although I do like him I'm not going to give you all of the "Nooo he's too gorgeous to be rude" fan girl crap. I can see how he could be rude, partly due to the fact that he's got half the female population screaming about how much they love him...that would go to anybody's head wouldn't it

*Jilly*

Nah your comments don't bother me...you're still being polite...and I like talking too

thats what i forgot to say!!

there IS actually a group of people that are "vampires"
my uncle David told me
they drink blood. but i think its just animal blood

thought i would share that haha

maybe in eclipse, they will do a flashback to how leah reacted to the death?
theres an idea haha

meg
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Regarding not introducing Leah in NM and waiting until Eclipse... Many of you are HP fans, as that's probably how you found this thread! Given that assumption, I'm sure many of you are aware of how the HP books and movies differ on many accounts. The directors have found ways to introduce important information without necessarily following the books.

For instance, in OotP they left out the group's foray at St. Mungo's, where they learned about Neville's parents (and Lockhart's condition, although that wasn't important). Instead, they had Neville telling Harry the details in the RoR. They are also leaving out Bill and Fleur in HBP. These seem to be important characters for DH (their wedding, their house Shell Cottage), so I'm sure the directors will find a way for the Trio to succeed without Bill and Fleur's help.

I'm not saying that Leah should be left out. I'm just saying that the directors/writers (if they are good) will find a way to make sure Leah's connections are included, maybe by flashback or having Bella explain to Edward who Leah is (maybe he knew her grandfather from when the treaty was first made).

Unfortunately, the movies will never be like the books. We should just try to enjoy them independently of each other instead of getting upset over what got changed. Keep in mind that the books' authors have veto power, and thus they approve of what is done with their stories.

On another note

Yeah, I too was greatly disappointed with the whole "sparkly" attempt on Edward. If I remember correctly, the whole meadow scene was added as an afterthought since fans insisted it be in there. I guess they worked with the time and budget they had to get him to sparkle. I really thought, since the whole "dazzle" concept is a huge part of who these vampires are, that they would have managed/planned this whole part much much better. Perhaps in future scenes...

Having seen both in the flesh as it were, they are almost identical! And personally, I prefer the Nina Ricci perfume...but I still ordered the Twilight one all the same

Leah doesn't actually play a pivotal role in any of the books until Breaking Dawn so introducing her by stealth is an OK way to go in my opinion. I mean they managed to leave out Ben in favour of Eric Yorkie, when Ben is actually Angela's boyfriend and more prevallent in the later books. But it's irrelavent anyway since Marissa Rosenberg hasn't written Leah into the script this time.

By the way, the spoilers tags are now not necessary as I said, most people have seen the movie now!

I kept meaning to get on and rant about the movie but I kept forgetting.

I didn't really like the beginning but after a while I really got into it. I had a few minor complaints, as in they skipped all the bits I found funny, but I was enjoying it. Until the end that is. I could have lived with the lame fight, if only they hadn't ruined the part where Edward saved Bella so badly. I thought one of the main points was that he didn't go out of control, and what was with that calm voice Carlisle used when he said what was it? 'Stop you're killing her?' I started cracking up when he said that.

The meadow scene was disappointing. The acting was good except for Edward and Bella's voices. The sparkle was lame but the baseballw as pretty cool.

Leah doesn't really need to be in NM aside from the fact that she's important later. They could always introduce her in Eclipse during the scene when they tell the old stories.

My visit to the movie theater on opening night was very interesting and almost as entertaining as the movie itself. First, the girls next to me planned to meet and then go to someone's house for a sleepover. The only problem was that they didn't coordinate and only half the girls got in before it sold out, so the other half had to wait in the lobby until the movie was over. And then everyone (it seemed like it anyway) shrieked when Rob came on the screen. But, anyway, I digress from the actual topic.

I thought the movie was very good if you take Kathleen's advice and watch it separate from your knowledge of the books. The relationship between Edward and Bella seemed kind of rushed; it seemed like one moment he's staring her down with seething hatred and the next moment they couldn't live without each other. But I understand that they have to do what they can in the time allotted.

The rumors surrounding Leah are very interesting. I would like to see her in New Moon if just to introduce her character, but it also isn't completely necessary. What I really hope doesn't happen is that Vanessa Hudgens gets cast the role (and at this point all rumors have been denied). I think they need to remain true to Twilight and cast a Native American and unknown for the part.

Several people have pointed out the differences in characters, such as Eric Yorkie in the place of Ben. Did anyone notice (on IMDb) that one of the characters with Jacob Black on the beach was Sam Uley? I'm interested to see if they end up using the other character as either Embry or Quil. Maybe they will edit one or both of them out. It'll be interesting to see what they do with New Moon.

I agree. It seems like the normal (for this day in age) teenage romance. You meet the person date them for a day, and suddenly it hurts to be away from them for a second and they are dramatic with words like 'I need you' and 'I can't live without you'. And how quickly people rush into saying 'I love you'. I'm not judging everybody, because I know a lot of people are mature in their relationships and not so frivolous. I'm sure you all can understand where I am coming from though. Sorry if I have offended anybody though, I can't talk since I've never actually been in a relationship like that. (Which brings on a whole other situation about young dating, but I won't get started on that!)




Yeah I noticed Sam there, because I remember when I was reading Twilight the second or third time through, thinking 'Hey, Sam is here at La Push!'. I didn't picture them like that, (for instance, isn't Sam- since he's a werewolf at that time- supposed to have short, cropped hair) but I'm glad that they are actually Quileute natives. That brings some reality and the correct feeling to the screen. I truly hope that both Embry and Quil are there.

For me, I don't feel like they have as much room in this one to make it different from the book. Sure, they can edit out some of Jacob and Bella's less important conversations, but as for the people, even if they're not terribly important, I feel like they should all be there. Embry changes into a werewolf, Quil gets scared, later on Quil imprints. They are all important. But I do understand what you guys are saying about Leah not needing to be there. I just feel that if they edit them out of this one, who's to say they won't take other more important people out of the rest of the movies. I'm probably over-reacting, but I'm not sure about what they're planning on doing to the movies. Look how they changed Twilight!



Yes, there seemed to be a lot of unintentionally funny lines and actions in this movie. It's not supposed to be a comedy.

Geez, I'm already getting worried about New Moon. I think I'll end up falling in love with the New Moon movie more than the Twilight movie though, because of Taylor Lautner's infectious personality!

I think the change in directors will also be beneficial for New Moon, even though I wasn't a fan of the Golden Compass. But I do agree with you, it will be fun to see more of Taylor! I was actually surprised by how much he was in Twilight--I expected them to cut his character down more than they did.

In Twilight, I really wish they would have showed more of the Cullens and I am disappointed we'll have to wait until Eclipse to see a whole lot more of them. I loved Kellan Lutz's (Emmet) lines/scenes and Jackson Rathbone's (Jasper) scenes. Jackson really had pained expressions and, though not completely funny, I had to laugh. We also didn't get to really see Bella's and Alice's friendship develop. Thinking back, I'm not sure they touched on it at all.

I too wish they would have shown more of the Cullens.In reality I love them,they are super funny especially in the books.I loved Emmet he is exactly how I imagined in the books and Jasper look constipated it was hysterical for me.When I first saw the movie and then read the book I noticed a really strong bond between Alice and Bella which I wish could have been shown in the movie.I think it is important for future movies.

>Rosie

By the way,
Sorry to infiltrate the Twilight thread again but can someone enlighten me, how many twilight books are there?
I walked into the local bookshop yesterday and saw about twenty different Twilight books plus other books by the author - how much has she written???

harryjpotter - there are 4 books in the "Twilight" series: "Twilight", "New Moon", "Eclipse" and "Breaking Dawn". Stephanie Meyer is the author. She has also written "The Host". Here is a link to Stephanie Meyer's site.

I have not read "The Host" but heard it is quite good... different from the vampires!

As for the other books you saw, I'm sure there are lots of "Twilight" books that correspond to the series, just as there are for the HP series!

Yes, just as ChannelingGinny said, harryjpotter, the Twilight Saga has four books (she listed their names) and then Stephenie also has her adult science-fiction book The Host.

The other books you saw on the stand could've been bios of the actors in Twilight, at least I know that at the book store near me that has a Twilight stand, has books dedicated to the actors' and actresses' lives. It also could've been different variations of the Twilight cover, even though they are the exact same book. There is also a Twilight Collector's edition that includes a ribbon book mark, cloth cover, ragged edges, new chapter opener designs, and a protective slipcase.

I got the information about the Twilight collector's edition, from Stephenie's website where you can find more about everything Twilight.

Oh, and the Host is definitely worth while. A little depressing in the beginning, but I thought it was very good. You can pretty much automatically trust anything Stephenie writes, if you're a fan of the Twilight series!

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