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Alastorlet_and_Proud!
Hermione-dudes and Hermione-ettes... I like, I like! Lol.

[Ferret decides to keep quiet about the fact that she is underage and grabs a martini. Thakee kindly, Monkey!]

Would you define Hermione as a feminist? If so: Why?

Not really. I don't think she's ever come across as indignant about sexism, and I don't really think it's a problem she'll ever really face. You'd have to be brain dead to choose someone else for a job just because Hermione's female!

Do you think that Hermione tried to learn Occlumency and Legilimency after the war? She saw that it is useful?


There were plenty of instances during the war in which people saw how useful Legilimency and Occlumency can be. And we all know how Hermione likes a challenge! I think Occlumency and Legilimency are one of those things that can't just be learnt out of a book, but they're so important that Hermione would just practice and practice until she got it.

[Ferret finishes the martini but decides against another one. Probably wise.]

Ellie
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Nasuada
Hey Hermione-ettes and dudes! cool.gif

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CONGRATULATIONS to you Americans for electing a very good president. HURRAH!

*Ahem* Clears throat. No comment on that one.......

Would you define Hermione as a feminist? If so: Why?

No, I don't believe she was. I agree with what DW said.
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No, she is most certainly not a Feminist, more like a conservative person. She want rights for magical creatures like House-elves. I think that she would want woman to have some sort of rights equal to that of men but not really everything like men


Do you think that Hermione tried to learn Occlumency and Legilimency after the war? She saw that it is useful?

Oh yes! Definitely! You know Hermione, determinded to know as much as she can. She probably caught on very quickly and mastered it in no time.

*Bunny ties ears into a bow on top of head and has trouble getting them undone.*

Chelsea
lupin<3tonks
*chipmunk decides on a Ruby Relaxer...yummy! Thanks DW...congratulations too! Hope all is well with you!*

Would you define Hermione as a feminist? If so: Why?

No, I don't think so. Like the others have said, she didn't really stand up for her sex it was more like she stood up for others. I like the humanist term Dess brought up.
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a philosophy that usually rejects supernaturalism and stresses an individual's dignity and worth and capacity for self-realization through reason
Like with the house elves...she was trying to show them their self-worth.

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No, I define her as a humanist, because despite she didn't defend genres but races, I think that she was up to defend every person, because none deserves to be ... what, bashed? *kneazles doesn't feel like looking it up a dictionary *


maybe...degraded? belittled?

Do you think that Hermione tried to learn Occlumency and Legilimency after the war? She saw that it is useful?

I think so! I'm sure there were other evils in their world and other "bad guys" that she would have to deal with and who knows, those two spells (or is one a spell and the other a charm?) might be needed in any given situations. And like the others say, its Hermione~ She'd learned it to just learn it! Our Miss Know It All smile.gif

What foreign languages do you think Hermione might've studied in "Muggle school"?

I'd say French like some other have said. But I was also thinking what about Latin?? I could see her trying to take on that language!




Alastorlet_and_Proud!
[Ferret helps the bunny untie her ears because she's in a very good mood today!]

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CONGRATULATIONS to you Americans for electing a very good president. HURRAH!


As I'm British, I don't really know whether John McCain would have been any better, but my family and I have been following the race with a passion (supporting Obama, if you're interested, but I don't really think it makes a difference, do you?). Congratulations to both Obama and McCain supporters: Obama won and McCain made an inspirational speech after his defeat. Well done to both!

offtopic.gif offtopic.gif rolleyes.gif Sorry.

So, anyway, I think I've answered all of the questions, so how about a new one?

[The ferret is in a creative mood today, so she chooses a creative writing one.]

Write a short paragraph from Hermione's POV describing what went through her head at one of the following moments:

1) When she saw Harry's 'dead' body.
2) Just before/after she kissed Ron
3) Slapping Malfoy
4) Getting her OWL results

Have fun with it!

Ellie
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Norberta
Do you think that Hermione tried to learn Occlumency and Legilimency after the war? She saw that it is useful?

Probably. It would definatly come in handy someday. And she might have learned it just to show Harry that it is possible!

Would you define Hermione as a feminist? If so: Why?

I really expected people to answer yes on this question. I'm thinking that we might have a definition problem, people might view this ideology differently.

I would say yes at least. What if Hermione worked at the ministry and she found out that a man was doing the exact same job as her but was payed more. Do you think Hermione would just sit back at her desk and say:" Oh, well I guess I don't mind. I am a woman after all." No, she would have confronted her boss and demanded that she should be payed the exact amount of money as he did. That's the Hermione we know, she wants fairness and that also applies for women.

Dess I really liked your answer to this question. But cant she be both? I would like to think so!

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No, she is most certainly not a Feminist, more like a conservative person. She want rights for magical creatures like House-elves. I think that she would want woman to have some sort of rights equal to that of men but not really everything like men


DW, can you do me a favour and elaborate on why you think Hermione would be conservative?

OK, I have to go and study for my theory test in driving! Ellie I'll answer your questions later.. biggrin.gif .
dewet_pdw88
Hey Ladies.

Write a short paragraph from Hermione's POV describing what went through her head at one of the following moments:

1) When she saw Harry's 'dead' body.
2) Just before/after she kissed Ron
3) Slapping Malfoy
4) Getting her OWL results

Hermione is having one massive internal fight with herself, the reason is Ronald Weasley. she knows that she likes him and that he likes her, then why doesn't he make a move. Oh right he is a guy and most probably nervous to ask me out. Since the Yule Ball I knew that he has, had feelings towards me. I liked him then and I so love him now. We just got back from the Chamber of Secrets, he was absolutely amazing, and I destroyed the cup. Now we need to find Harry and finish this chase and kill Voldemort. Ron sees Harry and pulls me along, he is explaining everything to him. Now is my chance. Do it! Go!... What a feeling, Victor didn't kiss me like this. Lavender was right he is a really good kisser, wonder hat Harry would say... "Could you maybe wait till later?" came Harry's voice from a far. Total bliss. Corny I know but it was fun.

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DW, can you do me a favour and elaborate on why you think Hermione would be conservative?

Sure. I mean that she would prefer Muggle ways that everything and every one needs to be treated as equals. The dictionary says that conservative means; showing that you prefer traditional styles and values. If we take this into Wizarding context one would find something like Pure-blood mania and everything that goes with it. Pure-bloods like the Malfoys and Sirius's mother didn't want any creature to be an equal to them. Hermione, I think she leaned this from seeing Harry interact with Dobby, want creatures to have some rights and not be treated like dirt. She opposes traditional Pure-blood styles. You know Norberta now you got me thinking about how I answered the question the first time. If we look up the answer in the Oxford Advanced Learner's Dictionary (BTW great dictionary to have, I use one in my studied) is tells me that you prefer traditional styles. Anyways I still believe that Hermione wouldn't want the traditional ways and styles of the Pure-bloods.

*Monkey sees the ferret looking a bit red in the cheek and just knows that the ferret is underage, but hey there are no drinking limits in the magical animal zoo. Poors the ferret another Marini. chipmunk here is your Ruby Relaxer: peach schnapps, vodka, Malibu coconut rum, pineapple juice, cranberry juice. Himalayan Kitty the Monkey saw that so he just let's it go and bring the drinks: Avalanche: Coffee Liqueur, White Creme de Cacao, Southern Comfort. Stars and Stripes: Grenadine, Blue Curacao, Heavy Cream. And another Brandy and coke and a Black Russian: Vodka, Coffee Liqueur.Enjoy!*

cool.gif DW
sadie_urlady523
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CONGRATULATIONS to you Americans for electing a very good president. HURRAH!


Yes! Yes! Yes! Thank you! I am a very big Obama supporter. Even though I can't vote, I spent hours of my weekends going door to door talking with people about Obama. I'm glad he won, because otherwise he'd owe me a pedicure from all of that walking.... laugh.gif

Anyway, I don't really have the patience to answer more than a couple of questions right now. Sorry!

Would you define Hermione as a feminist? If so: Why?

Actually, I wouldn't see her going on and on about feminism and sexism and whateverism. I think that if someone told her that she couldn't do something because of her gender, she'd kick some butt. I can see her very much supporting equality, but I think that S.P.E.W. would take up more of her time than F.W.A. (feminine witches association) smile.gif.

Do you think that Hermione tried to learn Occlumency and Legilimency after the war? She saw that it is useful?

I think that maybe she learned it just to get back at Harry for doing better at potions than her in the 6th year. But seriously, yes. I think that she would think that it would come in handy one day, so why not? Por que no?

What foreign languages do you think Hermione might've studied in "Muggle school"?

I think that she would study and speak multiple languages, like French, Latin, some Spanish and Italian, but also some very random stuff, like Icelandic. Or something like that.


How do you think Hermione reacted when she got her Hogwarts letter? How did she break it to her parents?

I think that she didn't believe it, actually. She probably thought it was a joke, being the sensible girl that she is/was. I think that eventually, Professor McGonagall or someone would've come to her home and break the news that it is real. This is one of those instances when I wished that J.K. had elaborated on Hermione's past.


What's your favorite Hermione moment?

Who asked this? Whoever did, THANK YOU! I love the part when she says "We'd better get out of here. We could've been killed, or worse expelled." That's not word for word, sorry. I still love it! Especially when Ron says "She needs to sort out her priorities."

OK, maybe I did answer a few more than a couple of questions... I just love this site! happy.gif

Oh, and just a water for me. I'm underage in human world, and would still not drink in this magical zoo until she is at least 18. Do ducks even live that long? mellow.gif

*Duck blushes and feels very inferior when reading everyone else's posts. Then she realizes that she's not very good at answering questions.* blush.gif

Duckie.




Alastorlet_and_Proud!
[Ferret tells duck not to worry, she liked your answers!]

Write a short paragraph from Hermione's POV describing what went through her head at one of the following moments:

1) When she saw Harry's 'dead' body.
2) Just before/after she kissed Ron
3) Slapping Malfoy
4) Getting her OWL results


I have a lot on my mind at the moment. I mean, the time turner seemed a good idea, but really? I think Harry and Ron are starting to get suspicious. So, you can imagine, I'm not really at my happiest when Hagrid turns up saying he's lost Buckbeaks appeal. I know it's sad for him, but I really think he should take a more professional attitude-

"Look at him blubber."

Oh great. Just what I need. Please not now... Seriously... Not now...


Oh no. You did not...

It all just adds up. I thought my day couldn't get any worse. But it just has. I get this sudden impluse to hit the smug little rat as hard as I possibly could... Cause him as much pain as possible...


SMACK!


Ellie
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Norberta
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Sure. I mean that she would prefer Muggle ways that everything and every one needs to be treated as equals. The dictionary says that conservative means; showing that you prefer traditional styles and values. If we take this into Wizarding context one would find something like Pure-blood mania and everything that goes with it. Pure-bloods like the Malfoys and Sirius's mother didn't want any creature to be an equal to them. Hermione, I think she leaned this from seeing Harry interact with Dobby, want creatures to have some rights and not be treated like dirt. She opposes traditional Pure-blood styles. You know Norberta now you got me thinking about how I answered the question the first time. If we look up the answer in the Oxford Advanced Learner's Dictionary (BTW great dictionary to have, I use one in my studied) is tells me that you prefer traditional styles. Anyways I still believe that Hermione wouldn't want the traditional ways and styles of the Pure-bloods.


What? If Hermione believes in traditional ways that means that she would be all for pure-blood mania. She wouldn't cared about the house elves rights because they have always been the wizards servants and thats the way it should be. I've never thought of Hermione as conservative at least not in the muggle world. If she was she wouldn't have complained about making the food because she was a girl in DH, she would have just accepted it if she believed in traditional ways... Do you mean that Hermione would stay at home while Ron went to work, because that is a pretty conservative way of thinking.

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Actually, I wouldn't see her going on and on about feminism and sexism and whateverism. I think that if someone told her that she couldn't do something because of her gender, she'd kick some butt. I can see her very much supporting equality, but I think that S.P.E.W. would take up more of her time than F.W.A. (feminine witches association)


You know I define myself as a feminist, but that doesn't mean I go around talking about how stupid boys are. No, it's more like we fight for equality of the sexes, that women and men should get the same amount of money for the same job and that women should be respected. So DW, you got nothing to worry about, I like boys heheh. (P.S. I think I'm going to start F.W.A. if you don't mind sadie biggrin.gif )

cute link
dewet_pdw88
Hey

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What? If Hermione believes in traditional ways that means that she would be all for pure-blood mania. She wouldn't cared about the house elves rights because they have always been the wizards servants and thats the way it should be. I've never thought of Hermione as conservative at least not in the muggle world. If she was she wouldn't have complained about making the food because she was a girl in DH, she would have just accepted it if she believed in traditional ways... Do you mean that Hermione would stay at home while Ron went to work, because that is a pretty conservative way of thinking.

Norberta you are completely right. I structured my answer the first ime wrong and then I went and explained it all wrong to you. So I am going too answer the question again, and if I am again wrong tell me. It helps if some one critizes your thinking so that so can rethink your answer...

Would you define Hermione as a feminist? If so: Why?
No I wouldn't. I would define her as a person that wants equality in the Magical world, like she did with S.P.E.W. feeling that every one should treat others as equals, it goes as far as to treat House-elves and other similar creatures with kindness. You can't be too kind to Giants or Goblins, but you need to respect them for what and who they are.
Norberta I hope that you agree with what I have said this time and thank you for voicing your opinion about what I have said.

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So DW, you got nothing to worry about, I like boys heheh. (P.S. I think I'm going to start F.W.A. if you don't mind sadie biggrin.gif )

That is a relieve I was really scared for a moment that you are going to bite my head of for what I have said.

cute link I liked this it is so true, as a boy I can tell you girls that we are nervous when it come to girls unless you know that you have a change. I get nervous if I have to talk to a girl for the first time.

cool.gif DW
sadie_urlady523
I am actually very feminist, but I don't go around saying that I hate all men. I hate it when people tell me I can't do something because of my gender, when they say things like "women are the weaker sex", etc. My Algebra teacher was actually saying that, and boy did I get onto him about it! dry.gif I was also watching a car commercial (a local dealership), and a lady on there said "We know buying a car can be very difficult, especially if you are a woman." I got so mad! I wrote a very strong letter to that dealership, saying that that commercial was insulting, degrading, offensive, and any other "big word" that I could think of. Like I said, I can't stand it when people degrade women. (would that be the right word?)

Oh, and I like guys too, whoever said that. laugh.gif

Another "Oh", I am so joining the F.W.A.!

Sorry. A little offtopic.gif.

*duck wanders over to the kitchen to get a glass of water, and then grabs some pain reliever for her headache. Well, I guess that's what she gets for staying up at a party all night*

Duckie
ihkny
I'm a big girl, I can get my own drinks. *Skitters off to get her MudSlide since the drink is either unknown to others, or she is being flat out ignored; fur ruffles at the thought.*

Write a short paragraph from Hermione's POV describing what went through her head at one of the following moments:

3) Slapping Malfoy


"Have you ever seen anything quite as pathetic?"

Chocolate eyes darkened to deep umber as pupils narrowed to pinpoints. Pale skin flushed in anger as lips were pursed into a thin line of annoyance.

"And he's supposed to be our teacher!"

'How dare he! How DARE he! I'll... I'll!' Thoughts flew through her mind in a jumbled mess in her fury. What could she do? Hex him? Curse him? Scream and yell and berate him with the worst insults she could produce?

Harry and Ron were moving forward to dish their own forms of punishment on the insipid little cur, but she moved quickly ahead of them; she refused to allow them the glory of extracting revenge on the boy who was the cause of the whole situation.

Faster than anyone expected of her, her hand was drawn back and brought forward to strike the cheek of her nemesis with a resounding - SMACK ! Adrenaline pumped through her veins as emotions and nerves ran rampant with power, giddiness, rage, triumph, and a plethora of others. Words spilled from her mouth, though she wasn't quite sure what she said as her hand reared back for another blow, but was interrupted by Ron.

'Let's see how he likes being attacked by a girl and in such a muggle form to boot!' It was the most insulting thing she could think of on the spot; to hit him with her hands instead of magic, to use such a muggle method to retaliate. The fact that she was a girl was just an added bonus.


Would you define Hermione as a feminist? If so: Why?

I already said I don't think she is, but I'm adding a little more to Dewett and his choice of the word "Conservative". I think it's a good word for her in the muggle word, however, she's more of a modern conservative when it comes to the magical. She's conservative in the way that she thinks people should work to take care of themselves and she have responsibility for their own finances rather than have it handed to them, she thinks the government should play as little a role as possible in the lives of its citizens and they should work to run things on their own, that the people should be watched over and laws inforced to protect them from outsiders wishing to do harm, because everyone deserves to have their rights respected, and limited taxes of course. =P To say she is conservative does not mean she feels that the pure-blooded mania should continue to stay intact, which is why I attached "modern" to her form of conservatism. Conservatives do believe in change, but we believe in gradual, moderate change over time so that one may grow accustomed to it over abrupt, instant gratification. They also stress established institutions and social stability. I know this doesn't have much to do with feminism, but in the Harry Potter world I don't really think it is much of an issue. *shrug* I'm not feminist myself and don't really care about it in any case. We weren't made equal, but I don't really see the inequalities as necessarily a bad thing. If we were all equal and the same the world would stop spinning and we'd be bored/boring.

Do you think that Hermione tried to learn Occlumency and Legilimency after the war? She saw that it is useful?

After the war? I dunno. I'd say I wouldn't find much use in it to be honest, but then for Harry and possibly Ron (Ron was an auror too, right?) that it would be useful. Who better to teach them than Hermione ? Lol ! So, yeah, sure she learned it. They'd be a nice little skills to possess in anycase.

offtopic.gif Even though I can't vote, I spent hours of my weekends going door to door talking with people about Obama.

It never really crossed my mind that anyone would do this (though I'm thinking even McCain-Palin supporters may have done this too). Anyhow, send me a PM about what you would talk to the people about to sway their opinion ? I'm curious. smile.gif

~ihkny
Hermione17
So..I decided to do all the questions...Here it goes!

Write a short paragraph from Hermione's POV describing what went through her head at one of the following moments:

1) When she saw Harry's 'dead' body.

Hermione probably thought that their chances of defeating Voldemort were slim. There was so much counting on Harry, and no one truly knew that Harry would have to sacrifice himself except for Dumbledore. With all the private lessons Harry and Dumbledore had, Hermione knew Harry was the “Chosen One”.

However; Hermione is very smart and strong willed. When she saw Harry’s lifeless body she was more determined than ever to defeat Voldemort, no matter how long it took. Not only to save the world from evil, but to avenge Harry’s death. Thankfully, the thought didn’t have to last to long.

2) Just before/after she kissed Ron

Before Hermione kissed Ron, she probably felt a lot of passion and longing for him. Not to mention how impressed she was when he thought of going down the chamber and using Parseltongue to enter.

And after she kissed Ron, Hermione felt elated. Like finally…we’ve connected. There was so much tension between them, so many feelings…they all just intensified and melted away at the same time. Enabling Hermione and Ron and put there guards down with each other, and in the moment they really connected on a level that they hadn’t before.

3) Slapping Malfoy

Haha! Hermione was tired of Malfoy and all his mean comments and actions. Her blood was boiling and she acted on it. Malfoy always got his way, and bragging about an innocent creature being sentenced to death and actually enjoying the thought of watching the execution was appalling to Hermione. That’s right up Hermione’s alley…equality for all, even creatures. So, she hit him! To bad it didn’t knock any sense into him though.

4) Getting her OWL results

Leading up to the results all Hermione could think of was how she did. Did she answer this question right or that one right. She went over and over the exams in her head and was stressed about her results.

When they finally came she was excited and nervous at the same time. She was pleased with getting all Outstanding except for in the Defense Against the Darks Arts Practical Exam. That one Exceeds Expectations took all her attention from all the O’s. She was pretty bummed at the “E”, but she also knew that she didn’t 100% nail the practical exam. The mark bothered her and knowing Hermione she practiced whatever it was that she didn’t do perfectly, until she got it perfect.

Dawn
lupin<3tonks
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I think it's a good word for her in the muggle word, however, she's more of a modern conservative when it comes to the magical.


Thanks Kristie, I was gonna add on to that whole conversation but you went ahead and did it for me! I totally agree with what you posted...Hermione isn't what you would call an extreme conservative but I think she definitely holds true to some traditional values. I'm a conservative and I don't think that so to speak "I should have to stay at home while my husband goes off to work". There are plenty of conservative women out there who work and have a family at the same time. There are plenty of liberal women who stay at home and don't work....it's more a personal issue than a party issue in my opinion.

I think Hermione could have gone either way on that situation. I could see her saying "I want to have a career and a family at the same time" and I could also see her being the type that may want to raise her kids to a certain age and watch them grow because she doesn't want to miss out on any moment in their lives and let Ron be the beadwinner. It has nothing to with being a feminist.

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To say she is conservative does not mean she feels that the pure-blooded mania should continue to stay intact, which is why I attached "modern" to her form of conservatism. Conservatives do believe in change, but we believe in gradual, moderate change over time so that one may grow accustomed to it over abrupt, instant gratification.


I agree with this too! Some people seem to think conservatism is cold hearted and only out for themselves, this is not the case. Change can be a good thing, if its good for the people as a whole and not only beneficial to a certain few. I could see Hermione agreeing with this line of thinking. She would make sure that everyone benefited from their laws or whatever form of government there is. The pure-blood mania only affected who? The Pure-bloods....and we all know that Hermione was not one of these, so why would she support it just because she was simply considered a conservative? Being a conservative or a feminist doesn't mean have to support all the ideas and beliefs of that group...its not all black and white, the world is made up of a lot of gray area and I think this holds true to the magical world. Hermione probably often found her self in that grey area along with the others.

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I was also watching a car commercial (a local dealership), and a lady on there said "We know buying a car can be very difficult, especially if you are a woman."


I know this is off topic and as much as I hate to say it, this is true. Men take advantage of women when it comes to the "car" world. As degrading and belittling as it is, what that woman said in that commercial is true. But see if Hermione had been a Legilimen she wouldn't have this problem! Haha! She could she read his mind and be like "You are so lying to me!!!!" and totally chew him out! smile.gif
bookworm_1918
Hi guys! Wow, I haven't been here in forever! Miss me? No I"m just kidding! I've got pages and pages of stuff to make up on! I forgot how fast the HErmy-lover's thread grows. tongue.gif

Welcome to all our new members, too! I think they were a couple..

Time to answer some questions now...howabout the latest one?
Write a short paragraph from Hermione's POV describing what went through her head at one of the following moments:

1) When she saw Harry's 'dead' body.


I'm guessing a couple thoughts ran through her head. The first one is probably 'NO!'and maybe she was just in shock, like she couln't believe what was happening. Seeing your best friend 'dead' in the arms of another friend would be a bit..well...shocking! I think that after she realized taht it was true (in her mind) she was just heartbroken. She thought that it was over, Harry was dead, and Voldemort had conquered. Not quite sure how you'd describe that particular feeling...maybe earth-shattering would be appropriate

dewet_pdw88
Hey Ladies

I see that the whole conservative topic has started some serious discussins, I like it but for me I don't have anything else to add to it. I would liike to qoute all of you answers but I will get a warning.
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To say she is conservative does not mean she feels that the pure-blooded mania should continue to stay intact, which is why I attached "modern" to her form of conservatism. Conservatives do believe in change, but we believe in gradual, moderate change over time so that one may grow accustomed to it over abrupt, instant gratification.

This for me sums up everything nicely. This is what I have been trying to get across. But it seems that being the only dude here has taken it's toll on my thinking logically

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I'm a big girl, I can get my own drinks. *Skitters off to get her MudSlide since the drink is either unknown to others, or she is being flat out ignored; fur ruffles at the thought.*

I have to admit that I did miss your request for a MudSlide so I will get you it and some special to make up for the delay:
MudSlide: Vodka, Kahlua, Irish Cream liqueur
Tropical Storm: Vodka, Gin, Rum, Tequila, Triple Sec, Cherry Brandy, Sour Mix

*Monkey is very happy one last exam left then the real party will begin. So ladies I hope you safe up some energy because Wednesday we are going all out*

cool.gif DW
Norberta
aww.. bookworm offcourse we missed you biggrin.gif Where have you been all this time?

OK, back to the whole conservative discussion:

I wouldn't call Hermione conservative. I understand that you mean that she was against "government control" in the HP - book, but in the HP-books the government was all corrupted, and there are few that support a corrupt government. But after the war, when Kingsley became minister I think Hermione would support a government that helped people in need. The government is the best to do so, because their job is to work for the people in the country that they govern. And a country that has a population that consist of mostly people from the middle class is a more stable country than a country that consist of few rich people and many poor people. To obtain a population which consist of middleclass people the government need to intervene by welfare to the ones that need it. This welfare consist of giving money to those who is out of a job or has a disaibiity, free healthcare to those that are in need of medical attention and offcourse free education. This is something that I think Hermione would work for in the ministry in the magical world, because she wants to help those in need and the best way to do so is to let the government intervene and give welfare to those who need it. I think JK Rowling mentioned something about Hermione working with law in the ministry, so maybe she would work for welfare in the magical world, if they don't already have it...

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She's conservative in the way that she thinks people should work to take care of themselves and she have responsibility for their own finances rather than have it handed to them, she thinks the government should play as little a role as possible in the lives of its citizens and they should work to run things on their own, that the people should be watched over and laws inforced to protect them from outsiders wishing to do harm, because everyone deserves to have their rights respected, and limited taxes of course.


I found it hard to find an example from the books that supports your argument except for maybe the fact that she did her own homework and was determined that Ron and Harry should do it themselves. But again she always gave in and helped them anyway. Hmm

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We weren't made equal, but I don't really see the inequalities as necessarily a bad thing. If we were all equal and the same the world would stop spinning and we'd be bored/boring.


What do you mean we weren't made equal? The only difference between a man and a woman is that it is the woman that gives birth. After the birth both of the parents have equal responsibility for the child. Woman and men have the same brain size(we may not think the same sometime but) and for that reason there is not a single reason to why we should not be treated as equals.

And I forgot to mention this in my last post, but I'm really proud of you Sadie for making people vote for Obama. I would have done the same thing, but then I discovered that everyone here cheered for him anyway, except for the fascistparty(!). I really think Obama will do you good. The republican party looks like it is in a crisis right now, they don't really know what type of politics they have, and to have a party to run a country when they don't know how is definatly not good.
Alastorlet_and_Proud!
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We weren't made equal, but I don't really see the inequalities as necessarily a bad thing. If we were all equal and the same the world would stop spinning and we'd be bored/boring.


I really hate to disagree with you, but I'm going to have to. I understand what you mean, but I feel it's the wrong approach. Besides, we could all be equal but not necessarily the same. Consider someone you think of equal class/social stutus/however you want to measure it to you. are they the same as you? No. We weren't made THE SAME but we were made EQUAL. And also, if this is men and women we're talking about, then we're hardly ever going to be the same, are we? If we were all exact copies of each other, then the world would be very boring, but if we were all EQUAL then we'd be pretty happy.

[Ferret gives the jaguar another MudSlide because she REALLY doesn't like disagreeing with people eeek.gif ]

So, I feel like we need a new question. Hmmm...

How do you think Hermione's personality would change if she was about half as clever?

and

Draw up Hermione's Christmas shopping list (I know it's a bit early, but she's a forward planner!) Be sure to include who the presents are for!

Ellie
xxx
ihkny
*tipsy Red Panda stumbles around from the two extra MudSlides* woot woot ! Thanks Dewdrop and Ellie !

Norberta: Oopsies ! I should have put a disclaimer that said *If Hermione were conservative* I tend to forget to put the most important thing when I type stuff like that and then I get stoned to death for my hypothetical situation. If you want an example of what makes me think Hermione believes in "If you want to get somewhere in life, then work to get it yourself and not have it handed/bought for you", then here it is: When Malfoy bought his way onto the Quidditch team instead of working for it with talent and skill. To me that says she thinks that people should do everything in their power to get there by their own means and not by something being handed to them on a silver platter.

Oh poop! I forgot I have to leave. I will finish to the rest later ! laugh.gif

Remember to keep this Hermione related and not get too political ! So send me a PM if any of you want to discuss the Equal/Same issue. I don't want any of us to get in trouble !!

Edit: Alright, I'm back !

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What do you mean we weren't made equal? The only difference between a man and a woman is that it is the woman that gives birth.


Uhm. If that's what you think, alright.

How do you think Hermione's personality would change if she was about half as clever?

She wouldn't be so focused on studying for one, she'd probably maybe possibly like sports or something physically exerting. I dunno, it's hard to imagine Hermione as... not being uber smart, lol.

I'm terrible at getting presents so I can't do that other question.

~Kristina
BRoyals
Howdy Hermione-ettes and dudes! This thread has been busy for the past few days.

What foreign languages do you think Hermione might've studied in "Muggle school"?

French and Latin.

Would you define Hermione as a feminist? If so: Why?

Not really. She is in favour of equality, but more for creatures than girls.

Do you think that Hermione tried to learn Occlumency and Legimency after the war? She saw that it is useful?


I think she probably did- and excelled in it as well. It is a useful skill in the magical world and she would certainly find uses for it to apply to.

How do you think Hermione reacted when she got her Hogwarts letter? How did she break it to her parents?

I don't think it just arrived in the mail. If that happened, I don't think any of the Granger's would have believed it. I think that one of the professors would have came to the door and explained it. I think he parents would have been overwhelmed but proud in that situation, and Hermione would be grateful she didn't have to tell them.

Write a short paragraph from Hermione's POV describing what went through her head at one of the following moments:

1) When she saw Harry's 'dead' body.


She would have been shocked and appalled. Seeing a friends dead body would be heartbreaking for anyone. She might have had many thoughts though; sadness, shock, denial and anger. That would have lasted for only a few moments though, because her strong-will would have broken through and made her determined to finish Voldemort off.

2) Just before/after she kissed Ron

I think she would have felt impulsive and determined to kiss Ron before they went into battle. She might have felt like it was her last chance. She would have felt happy and caught up in the moment, and would have been practically glowing inside afterwards.

3) Slapping Malfoy

Anger. She would have been upset with Malfoy, and all of her stress would have poured out. She would have felt satisfied after the slap- both for letting out her frustrations and for giving Malfoy what he deserved.

4) Getting her OWL results

She was extremely anxious and worried about how she did. She could only think of the things she might have messed up and all of the possible things that could happen. She was happy and a bit shocked when she got her results, which, incidentaly, were superb. I think she was pleased overall though, but there is always something she is going to strive for.


One last thing: you should start thinking about who you want to nominate for November's Hermione-ette. Nominations are due by the 28th. Send them to me or Sadie, blah, blah, blah wink.gif We have one vote already- a birthday present for Dess.

-Kel happy.gif
Norberta
Yay! I'm back...again!

So we're quiting the whole conservative discussion? Ah, well it was nice as long as it lasted biggrin.gif I just have to say that I'm glad you pointed out ihkny(or Kristina(?)) that you don't think that Hermione is conservative(If I understood you correctly). Because, well, she isn't. And I still believe that she is a feminist, but enough about that!

So anyway...

How do you think Hermione's personality would change if she was about half as clever?

She probably would have had to study a lot harder to get the same grades, and Harry and Ron would not have been able to rely on her as much as they did. Her personality would definatly change because she would not longer be the one that people look upon as a person that knows everything. Maybe she will socialise a bit more, be more popular and outgoing. Maybe she'll actually be friends with Lavender and Parvati.

Draw up Hermione's Christmas shopping list (I know it's a bit early, but she's a forward planner!) Be sure to include who the presents are for!

You know I'm already getting christmas brochures, and the christmas candy and soda is already in store, even though it is more than a month to christmas.

Christmas list:
Ron - a flying model of a quidditch player
Kids - Homework planner(offcourse)
Mrs. Weasley - a good wine
Mr. Weasley - A television(Now that is fascinating)
Harry - A good book that tells him how to relax a little(!)
Ginny - maybe a broom, I don't know
Hagrid - a pygmy puff
Neville - Random plant
Luna - a book about creatures that actually excists
Her parents - an owl
Have I forgotten someone?
DeSs
Aaaw, you remembered my birthday!! Thanks, Kel! I'm so excited, it's a week left! And my mother will allow us to have daiquiris and beer, as I'm turning 18, yay! I don't drink beer at all, and anyway, we won't be having free beer, only 2 or 3 bottles, but it's good anyway! And I love daiquiris! happy.gif I wish you all could come too. If anybody comes to Argentina by next Friday, you're invited! biggrin.gif

Draw up Hermione's Christmas shopping list (I know it's a bit early, but she's a forward planner!) Be sure to include who the presents are for!


Oh my, we usually would have a lot of bottles of cider already stored, waiting for Christmas, and lots of chocolated peanuts, nougats, puddings and all, but as we, sadly, are spending our Christmas at home due to my parents' tiredness and some minor family's frictions, my mom forgot to take them when we went to the supermarket this month, so ... no cider. Do you know what is great? Cider in a pineaple!!!

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Ron - a set of Aurors gadgets and tools
Hugo - a heap of books, or maybe a bigger bookshelf
Rose - a broomstick
Mrs. Granger and Mr. Granger - I wrote a fic when they got them a wizarding chess ... it's pretty cool!
Mrs. Weasley and Mr. Weasley - something Muggle ... maybe a car! (joking) Er... a fan, I'd say, because I never understood how could they manage to get fresh air in summer
Harry - a hammock, to match the books you suggested, Norberta tongue.gif
Ginny - .... shoes? We always get that stuff!
Lily, James, and Albus - hum, books or homework planners or maybe the trunks for Hogwarts laugh.gif

Do you think that Hermione tried to learn Occlumency and Legimency after the war? She saw that it is useful?

It could be, since Harry was so affected by Voldemort's mind, I think maybe she thought that it's of extreme importance to learn that. Or perhaps the bad memories made her avoid them, but I think she could have felt interested.

Oh, I see you were talking about more serious stuff. I haven't read the previous posts, though, but I bet you all made good points. By the way, ihkny, are you with or against Obama? I didn't get that huh.gif I like him, so good luck and kudos to the people who voted him! jerry.gif
lupin<3tonks
Norberta...so if Hermione isn't a conservative, what would she be? A liberal or an independent or neither? A moderate? I think Kristina was saying that if she was a conservative than she would be a moderate conservative not an extreme conservative. I don't think Kristie was saying she was one or wasn't one. We all have our reasonings for saying where we think her political views lie. smile.gif Its okay to keep this discussion going I think as a long as it pertains to Hermione and not to ourselves so much. I know there was one post somewhere that really didn't mention Hermione all that much and we were afraid everyone would get in trouble for getting off topic. There's a political thread in the Dueling Club for that.

And its okay to still believe she is feminist. I think thats what JKR wanted, she sees Hermione in one way, I see her in another, Kristie sees her in another way, you see her in another way. Thats a part of reading, you interpreted things differently! Some of us see her has a feminist and some of us don't!

Happy Birthday Dess! Has it already passed or is it coming up?? *gives Dess a daiquiri for a birthday present! magic.gif *

Draw up Hermione's Christmas shopping list (I know it's a bit early, but she's a forward planner!) Be sure to include who the presents are for!

Ron - a "coupon" book for a husband....You know one would say, "Free back massage" and another would be "free chore pass" and another might say "good for one afternoon nap".

Hugo - maybe a new pet of his choosing for Hogwarts....

Rose -a new game...like Hogwarts Trivial Pursuit or Scrabble to build her vocabulary

Mrs. Granger and Mr. Granger - maybe a moving photograph of the grandchildren or a photoalbum of the grandbabies!

Mrs. Weasley and Mr. Weasley - I like the something "Muggle" idea....maybe a scrapbook in memory of Fred's life....I don't know it might be painful but its something I would like to have.

Harry - hmm....maybe a Martini gift set or a cocktail gift set to makes drinks for when he reads his book in his hammock!

Ginny-I always thought this was a great idea....have a throw or an afgan made for them...but it have a family portrait as the design...has anyone else seen those?

Lily, James, and Albus-you can't go wrong with board games...of any kind! Whether they are just for fun or educational so anything that would suit them best..that they could play together. Like Yahtzee or Clue!

PS: We (me and Kristina) voted for McCain/Palin...we were not for Obama.
sadie_urlady523
Hey! *waves* I have that stupid electronic baby for health, and it's not crying so I thought that I might as well post. I'm a little nervous, though. It hasn't made any noise for 4 ENTIRE HOURS! Maybe it's dead.... Oh, no! I hope I don't get an F on this!

Anyway, Christmas presents.

Ron- Maybe a how-to book. Like How to Use a Telephone for Dummies, or a Chudley Cannons watch. I was messing around with the idea of a watch with all of the quidditch players on a team zooming around underneath the glass. Sorry. Randomness. laugh.gif

Harry- I think maybe something to do with quidditch, like a broom polishing kit or something. And Bertie Botts!

Hugo and Rose- I'm thinking a mini broom for Hugo, and a pygmy puff for Rose.

Mr. and Mrs. Granger- I love the idea of a scrapbook of the grandchildren! Very muggle-esque, yet very nice.

Ginny- A shopping trip. For sure! Can you see those two in Diagon Alley? Hermione being very picky, and Ginny telling her that she'll disapparate to Africa if she doesn't stop... laugh.gif

The Potter Kids- Probably something mind-stretching. Like a rubic cube or something. Plus a threat that she's going to tickle them to death if they don't figure it out by next Christmas.

Arthur and Molly- For Arthur: Plugs. And rubber ducks. Perfect. For Molly: A Gilderoy Lockheart book on how to "cook the perfect dinner with just one wave of your wand.". Or something of that sort.


OK, I guess I should go... I don't want it to start crying... Oh, and by the way. He is a little Asian baby, and his Godmother (my best friend) and I wanted to give him an Asian name, and we asked our language arts teacher. She looked some up, and we picked one out. His name is Duck-Young! Tee hee. I know that's mean, but it's so funny! We're also calling him Duckie for short, just like his mama! smile.gif

Again, Randomness.

Duckie
xoxo
Norberta
Allright, lupin<3 tonks, If I were to label Hermione with a political ideology, I would call her a social democrat. Social democrats belive in fair trade, social security and human rights. You can read about it more on wikipedia. I think this fits Hermione well. It is shown throughout the books that Hermione supports the less unfortunate and wants to help them. And as I've said before I think Hermione understands that this is done best through the government and I think if she has a future career in the ministry she will make that happen.

And I've found a new reason for you to love Obama. He has read all of the Harry Potter books! Just thought I'd casually mention that!

I found this fantastic site where you can enter your birthday and then you can find out interresting facts about that day. here. So I thought it would be interesting to see what happened on Hermiones birthday:
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Results for 19th September 1979:
* You were born on a Wednesday.
* Your star sign is Virgo.
* Your birthstone is Sapphire.
* The season was Summer.
* You were born in the Chinese year of the Sheep.
* The US President was Jimmy Carter (Democratic).
* The UK Prime Minister was Margaret Thatcher (Conservative).
* You are 29 years 1 month 26 days old.
* It is 308 days until your next birthday.
* In dog years you are 203 years old.
* You are 10,650 days old.
* You are approximately 255,616 hours old.
* You are approximately 920,219,124 seconds old.


And let's flip Ellie's question around:

What do you think Hermione wants for christmas?
sadie_urlady523
What do you think Hermione wants for christmas?

I'm thinking books, mind games, and the chance to be with the people she loves. Who wouldn't want that? I think books and mind games for obvious reasons, but as a mother/wife/aunt/daughter/daughter-in-law, I think that she loves all of these people, and wants to spend her Christmas with them.

Uggghhh... This stupid baby kept me up all night last night. He cried at 8, 11, 1, 3, and 6 a.m. I'm exhausted, but he's sleeping now. I think I'm going to go and take a shower and a nap. I've got about another hour at least until he wakes up and starts crying. Wish me luck!

Duckie
xoxo


EDIT: Oh, and I also looked on that thing that Norberta brought up. It's exactly right!


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You were born on a Tuesday.
Your star sign is Gemini.
Your birthstone is Emerald.
The season was Spring.
You were born in the Chinese year of the Pig.
The US President was Bill Clinton (Democratic).
The UK Prime Minister was John Major (Conservative).
Tuesday's child is full of grace.
You are 13 years 5 months 23 days old.
It is 189 days until your next birthday.
In dog years you are 91 years old.
You are 4,925 days old.
You are approximately 118,217 hours old.
You are approximately 425,582,799 seconds old.


The funny thing is, it says that Tuesday's child is full of grace. My middle name is Grace! Haha! Maybe that's significant....
Alastorlet_and_Proud!
What do you think Hermione wants for Christmas?

Something home-made from her kids. You know the embarrassing paper mache plates you used to make, or the plastic bead bracelets? Something like that. And a good book, of course.

I did the thing that Norberta posted. It was awesome. I'd paste it here but I'm using my godmother's MacBook Air at the moment and I have no idea how to copy and paste!

Ellie
xxx

DeSs
Well, that website is great! Here are my results:

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Results for 21st November 1990* :

* You were born on a Wednesday.
* Your star sign is Scorpio.
* Your birthstone is Yellow Topaz or Citrine.
* The season was Autumn. (actually, it was Spring here)
* You were born in the Chinese year of the Horse.
* The US President was George H. W. Bush (Republican).
* The UK Prime Minister was Margaret Thatcher (Conservative).
* You are 17 years 11 months 24 days old.
* It is 6 days until your next birthday.
* In dog years you are 119 years old.
* You are 6,569 days old.
* You are approximately 157,675 hours old.
* You are approximately 567,629,801 seconds old.


So, I hope that answers your question, Tonya biggrin.gif And thanks for the daiquiri! I'm enjoying it.

What do you think Hermione wants for Christmas?
Yes, I think that she'd love something made by their children. I used to make nice cards, with a collage, stickers, shiny, coloured glue and that, and always with my *so* thoughtful wishes. But I remember at school we made that stuff of "useful" things for the kitchen, and so on. And last Mother's Day, as we were leaving on the trip, my classmates and I made a flag-sign with all our hands stamped in red and our names and the names of our mothers laugh.gif It was great.

And I think she'd like something special from Ron, it could be a book that he had to guess about which will fancy her the most or something she really needed.

Norberta, you're with me, then cool.gif Hurray for ... Harry Potter!
dewet_pdw88
Ola Ladies!

I am so glad my exams are over but now it is the time to wait for results ph34r.gif

I am a bit behind, so I am going to jump straight into answering some questions...

Draw up Hermione's Christmas shopping list (I know it's a bit early, but she's a forward planner!) Be sure to include who the presents are for!
Ron~ Seasonal ticket to the Canons games
Mr. and Ms. Weasley~ Some good muggle cook books and a television
The Kids~ A homework planner and a book on handling Exam-stress
Harry and Ginny~ A vacation coupon because those two won't go on a vacatioon themselves they work to hard
The Potter Kids~ A homework planner and a book on handling Exam-stress
Hagrid~ The gigantic monster book to take care of your dragon

What do you think Hermione wants for Christmas?
Something that will help her to relax, like a full day at a spa with Ginny fully paid for by Ron then afterwards HE cooks her dinner and serves it by candle light

Here are my results from that website:
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You were born on a Wednesday.
Your star sign is Taurus.
Your birthstone is Emerald.
The season was Spring.
You were born in the Chinese year of the Dragon.
The US President was Ronald Reagan (Republican).
The UK Prime Minister was Margaret Thatcher (Conservative).
You are 20 years 6 months 11 days old.
It is 170 days until your next birthday.
In dog years you are 140 years old.
You are 7,500 days old.
You are approximately 180,019 hours old.
You are approximately 648,069,811 seconds old.


*Monkey thinks it is time to party...skip that idea I need some sleep night all*

cool.gif DW
ihkny
What do you think Hermione wants for christmas?

I'm gonna take a page out of my mother's book and give one of her famous evasive and general answers ! She'd like something useful ! Dun dun dun !

And I've found a new reason for you to love Obama. He has read all of the Harry Potter books! Just thought I'd casually mention that!

If only that were good enough ! *sigh*

DeWdroP:Good luck on your exam results and glad they're over for ya and you can relax.

DeSs: I'm itchin to send you your birthday e-presents ! I already got two of mine early and no one can even imagine how uberly excited I am. 132 brand new colored pencils from the best brand EVER ! Prismacolors, and in a pretty wooden case to boot. *starry eyed* As well as a cookbook from my sister *THANKS SEESTER!* that has more ulterior motive to it than it should, but oh well, I love finding new things to cook !

Norberta: I kind of get the feeling you think if one is conservative they don't care about the people as a whole, maybe you don't feel that way, that is just how it comes off. This is what I see Hermione as, it is a bit of a variation from Moderate Conservative to Moderate Republican. Not that she couldn't be a Social Democrat, after all, we all interpret things differently ! smile.gif

Here's my birthday stuff from that site: Also, I was born on the Great American Smoke-out day; meaning no smoking nation wide ! Doubt it was really followed, but they made shirts and it was one of my first presents ever, haha !

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17th November 1988* :

You were born on a Thursday.
Your star sign is Scorpio.
Your birthstone is Yellow Topaz or Citrine.
The season was Autumn.
You were born in the Chinese year of the Dragon.
The US President was Ronald Reagan (Republican).
The UK Prime Minister was Margaret Thatcher (Conservative).
You are 19 years 11 months 28 days old.
It is 2 days until your next birthday.
In dog years you are 133 years old.
You are 7,303 days old.
You are approximately 175,296 hours old.
You are approximately 631,065,500 seconds old.


~Kristina
Norberta
So, if anyone is interrested:

QUOTE
Results for 31st August 1990* :
* You were born on a Friday.
* Your star sign is Virgo.
* Your birthstone is Peridot.
* The season was Summer.
* You were born in the Chinese year of the Horse.
* The US President was George H. W. Bush (Republican).
* The UK Prime Minister was Margaret Thatcher (Conservative).
* You are 18 years 2 months 16 days old.
* It is 288 days until your next birthday.
* In dog years you are 126 years old.
* You are 6,652 days old.
* You are approximately 159,661 hours old.
* You are approximately 574,780,912 seconds old.


Nothing special really happened on the day I was born, but something happened seven years later that wasn't all that funny!

And ihkny, you're absolutely right about that I tend to look at conservatism as something negative. And can you blame me? In the last 8 years that the conservatives have controlled the US they have managed to ruin the American economy and taken the whole world with them. They have ignored the environmental issues that we are facing and they've created a war for a reason that didn't excist. In addition where I come from, the only party that is even close to being called conservative is the fascist party and I don't think I need to explain why I don't like them. I'm absolutely not under the impression that conservative people are bad people, I just don't agree with their way of running a country. And I think they have made some very bad decisions, at least the last 8 years. I've read the article about moderate republicans and I didn't really see the difference between moderate republican and a liberal. As for now I'm sticking with social democrat for Hermione. But as you said we interpret her differently.

And let me just say one sentence about John McCain. There is no doubt in my mind that he would have made a better president than Bush, and if I had to vote for one of the conservatives, it would definatly be him. However I think Obama would be better for you in these days.

What do you think Hermione wants for christmas?

Maybe a nice book. No I think she'll want a travel with Ron, and only Ron, to some nowhere place where they could just relax. I think that would be nice for Hermione.
Nasuada
Hey! I haven't been online in a few days. There have been a couple new questions since I was last on.

Draw up Hermione's Christmas shopping list (I know it's a bit early, but she's a forward planner!) Be sure to include who the presents are for!

Ron-Tickets to a quidditch game and maybe a daily planner.
Harry-Something to do with quidditch, maybe some more books.
Mr. and Mrs. Granger-Oh I also love the idea about the scrapbook!
Mr. and Mrs. Weasley-A scrapbook too, with moving pictures, and some muggle item for Mr. Weasley like a remote-control car.

I'm not in a very creative state of mind so that's all I can come up with for now.

What do you think Hermione wants for christmas?

Yeah, something useful. Maybe there are some bewitched cleaning supplies that clean the house by themselves kind of like the robot vacuum cleaner that she would like. Or a good book.

Can I please make a request? I'm sorry, but I'm getting really tired of politics being such a large topic of conversation in a thread about Hermione. It's been really bothering me, to put it bluntly. It seems that most people in this thread think Obama is great, but it's very clear that there are some who don't. There are probably more, but I know that ihkny and lupin<3tonks don't support him. I don't either. And to tell you the truth, I'm sick of hearing about him. So could we please stop talking about how great Obama is? Not trying to be rude here, but it's been bothering me increasingly.

Chelsea
sadie_urlady523
Yeah, thanks for bringing that up, Nasuada. I am a big Obama supporter, but politics is getting a little tiresome. I know there is a thread on politics in the great hall, for the dueling club members, so people could talk about it there. For now, let's try to keep to the subject: Hermione. OK? Not trying to seem rude, but some people get offended by this kind of stuff.

Duckie
xoxo
lupin<3tonks
Yeah, I have to THIRD this. I was afraid to say something because I didn't want to seem rude and like a "mod". I thought the whole Hermione and politics question was getting overdone even when I ASKED about it again, so I agree with you guys. Its okay to discuss it but it should be something that is either continued in a PM or in the other thread. *Thanks about the Obama suggestion....*yay he won president whoo hoo good for him its over with it now lets drop it*

How do you think the Weasley family(as in Hermione and Ron and the kids) celebrates Christmas?? I know everybody has different traditions, so as a way for us to learn about all the Hermione members, maybe we can incorporate our traditions into our answers. Or just answer how you think strictly Hermione and the others would celebrate it!
ihkny
Sorry, I was done with that line of topic after my last post too. I was trying to keep it related to Hermione, and I'm not even a Moderate Republican, so I wasn't reflecting my views or anything. I completely agree about dropping it, it's very touchy material ! smile.gif

I was thinking earlier how everyone always asks what Hermione would be like had she been in Ravenclaw or Hufflepuff, or if she had never met Harry and Ron or never been sorted into Gryffindor. So, here's from the other end of the spectrum:

What would Hermione's personality be like had she been a pureblood ? (And no, she doesn't have to be a Slytherin pureblood, but that doesn't mean we should exclude that possibility.) Can't wait to see how Hermione would really have changed due to this circumstance !

Also: Do you think Hermione's intelligence was a product of her need to prove herself in the wizarding world ? Anyone would be interested in learning about this completely new apsect of their life and would want to jump right in to learn whatever they could, so I'm not asking if Hermione is only smart because she wanted to prove she belonged in the wizarding world, just that could she have been different and not so focused on it (it being studying and being a know-it-all) had she not felt the need to show she had just as much right to be a witch as a pureblood.

~Kristina

Tomorrow is my birthday Huzzah ! *does an irish jig*
Alastorlet_and_Proud!
HAPPY BIRTHDAY KRISTINA!

What would Hermione's personality be like had she been a pureblood ?

I think she would have been a lot more arrogant about her intellegence. She does have a little bit of 'I'm smarter than you' but it would be more pronounced if she had been brought upt to belive that she was wonderful...

Oops. Gotta go. I WILL come back later...

Ellie
xxx
Nasuada
Happy Birthday Kristina!


Hooray! magic.gif Hope you have a wonderful day! Here's a birthday hug for you! hug.gif

Great! I'm glad all that cleared up! I was terribly afraid I was going to sound rude, but I'm happy nobody took it in offence. Now! Back to Hermione! biggrin.gif

How do you think the Weasley family(as in Hermione and Ron and the kids) celebrates Christmas?? I know everybody has different traditions, so as a way for us to learn about all the Hermione members, maybe we can incorporate our traditions into our answers. Or just answer how you think strictly Hermione and the others would celebrate it!

I think they'd be the type who get a Christmas tree a few days before and decorate it along with the whole house. happy.gif And on Christmas, they had a lot of family over and distributed presents and had lots of food and fun. Maybe at some point during the day they all sung Christmas carols. I also think they'd go to church. (Yes, I know that nobody's religious in Harry Potter, but still.)

What would Hermione's personality be like had she been a pureblood ?

Yeah, she might have been a little more arrogant about her intelligence. I like how you said that, Ellie. I don't think she'd be really condescending like some pure-bloods, but she might be more bossy and such.

Chelsea
DeSs
HAPPY BIRTHDAY, KRISTIII, HAPPY BIRTHDAY, KRISTIII, IT'S THE THIRD TIME I SIING THIIIS ... SO I HOPE YOU FEEL ... GLEEE!

Madness, I know.

Well, I was about to ask the same as you if the discussion was kept until today. I can't say "I don't care about politics", because, as teachers have told us, politics are in every hole of our lives, politics rule our life and the world is made of politics; every decision you take is politics. But I don't care about political parties or stupid slogans: I only care about ideals. So, let's stop wondering which kind of party would Hermione Granger follow, I don't think she would be Conservative or Republicane, or Democrat or anything, half because I don't think parties exist in the wizarding world and half because I think she would support life beyond anything else.
That's all, end of the point wink.gif

How do you think the Weasley family(as in Hermione and Ron and the kids) celebrates Christmas?? I know everybody has different traditions, so as a way for us to learn about all the Hermione members, maybe we can incorporate our traditions into our answers. Or just answer how you think strictly Hermione and the others would celebrate it!

Well, Hermione and her children would get and decorate the Christmas tree a week or more before, hanging blue streams and silver Christmas balls, and then the kids' socks from the fireplace, and placing a big tray with cookies and milk and nuts under the tree. Then Ron would come and some cookies would misteriously dissapear, and he would say "Hey, it looks like Santa was hungry now!" Hermione would tell him off and to compensate, he would helpi decorating the last details. For Christmas it could be two ways: the Weasleys could spend Christmas with half the family and New Year with the other half (like, this year, Arthur and Molly spend it with Ron, Ginny and Bill; and New Year with Percy, George and Charlie, and they change next year) or they could all gather at the Burrow but only on the 25th, not on Christmas Eve. So, ok, back to the point, let's say Ron and Hermione spend this Christmas Eve at home, they send the kids early to bed, and the next day, Hugo and Rose wake them up with the presents they got. Then they go to the Burrow for lunch and everybody happy! happy.gif That's my OBHWF!

What would Hermione's personality be like had she been a pureblood ?

I don't think being pureblood makes any difference. There're a lot of half-blood people who is arrogant, and a lot of pureblood people who isn't. Is that those kind of genetics differences really matter? The Weasleys are a big pureblood family, and they choose not to care about this, becoming the biggest family of traitors, but they were never arrogant. Voldemort was half-blood, and he was one of the biggest murderers in the History of magic. And so on. I think it would have been the same Hermione. She never was arrogant, besides, she was only glad to know. Yes, it was a bit prat, but I feel proud when I know something you don't, or when I know that I know, yet I blush badly and deny it when somebody says "Wow, you're a genious", because I don't think so.

Do you think Hermione's intelligence was a product of her need to prove herself in the wizarding world ?
Oh, I read a pretty nice fanfic about this. But yes, my opinion is that she really wanted to be accepted, because everybody made her feel that she had to be inferior only because she was Muggle-born. And she was intelligent, and perhaps she also wanted to prove it to her parents. They appreciated intelligence beyond everything else, and so they felt dissapointed about she being a witch, and so she tried to prove them that magic would never diminish her intelligence.

Hey ... happy birthday, ihkny. Enjoy your wonderful pencils happy.gif
dewet_pdw88
Hey ladies

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DeWdroP:Good luck on your exam results and glad they're over for ya and you can relax.
Kristina I like my nickname thanx. And a Happy Birthday to you, How about a drink: Strawberry Daquiri

How do you think the Weasley family(as in Hermione and Ron and the kids) celebrates Christmas?? I know everybody has different traditions, so as a way for us to learn about all the Hermione members, maybe we can incorporate our traditions into our answers. Or just answer how you think strictly Hermione and the others would celebrate it!
My family celebrates Christmas at the coast. We get away from the stress of work and study and just be together. We all take turns to hand out the gifts to everyone (Which reminds me I must go buy gifts for my sis and parents) We just spend the day together and reflect on why we are here and why we love each other. I think that Hermione would try and do Christmas in a combination of Muggle and Wizarding ways. Maybe bring her parents and Ron's together. And then spend some time alone with just the kids, and maybe some time with Harry and Ginny, although they might spend time together with the Granger's and Weasleys. Every one at the Burrow.

Do you think Hermione's intelligence was a product of her need to prove herself in the wizarding world ?
I like this question and I think that is part of the reason that she is so smart. She wanted to be good at it, and we must remember that when she got to Hogwarts she didn't know all about the prejudice against Muggleborns and the whole Blood fudes. She was just eager to learn how to control her powers and to use them correctly. The other reason why I think that she is so smart is because of her parents. to become a Dentist isn't just a 2 year course and you have your degree. You must learn for 3 years then do some work in a dentistry to get hours and after that you graduate.

What would Hermione's personality be like had she been a pureblood ?
I don't think she would have changed much, it is like Purebloods in Gryffindor and some in Slytherin. Those in Slytherin hate most Purebloods and halfbloods and loaths Muggleborn. But those in Gryffindor don't care about that they just treat each other with respect and dignity. So for me Hermione wouldn't have changed in personality.

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Alastorlet_and_Proud!
I'm back!

Do you think Hermione's intelligence was a product of her need to prove herself in the wizarding world ?

I think it was the reason that she strived so hard, but I don't think it's the reason she was intelligent. I mean, one can be smart just comfortably sitting at the back of the class, only really pishing yourself in things that matter like exams. But Hermione was eager-to-please EVERY lesson, and I think that it was because she needed to show everyone in the wizarding world how smart she was.

Ellie
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lupin<3tonks
Do you think Hermione's intelligence was a product of her need to prove herself in the wizarding world ?

I think her drive to be intelligent came from the fact that she was a half-breed. I think she would have still been the same smart Hermione that we all know if she was a pureblood at least I think so. Where does your intellegence come from? Is it a product of who your parents(your genes?) are or is it something that you, yourself accumulate? I think its more of an individual thing, so no matter what, Hermione would still have been smart and the best in her class no matter which world she came from. Which kind of answers your first question for me, too. Well sort of.


What would Hermione's personality be like had she been a pureblood ?

Was she born to the same parents? Were her parents pureblood, and if they were than would their personalities be different? Its kind of like a snowball effect for me. I think she is the person she is largely in part to how she was raised and the type of values her parents instilled into her. So if her family were pureblood, and they were still the same people than I think Hermione would still be the same person.

But if she was born to a different set of parents or her parents were raised as wizards as well than they probably are not going to be the same people so maybe her personality would be a little different. Especially if her pureblood parents are like the Malfoys. So haha I don't know, my answers are probably confusing and don't make sense. wacko.gif
Norberta
I am here yet again. I know I didn't stop by yesterday, but I had good reason. I was practising for my theory driving test that I took today and I passed it biggrin.gif biggrin.gif biggrin.gif biggrin.gif biggrin.gif biggrin.gif biggrin.gif . I'm really happy right now! There will not be long until I get my drivers license! I just can't wait to drive a car on my own! Drinks are on me today!

And Nasuada, I didn't find your rude at all. I'm actually pretty glad you brought it up, it is nice to know that you can speak up when something is bothering you! I'm actually pretty sick of politics too nowadays. Now that the election in USA is finished they have offcourse started to talk about our election in september 2009 . And this time I can vote so I actually have to start paying attetion!

How do you think the Weasley family(as in Hermione and Ron and the kids) celebrates Christmas?? I know everybody has different traditions, so as a way for us to learn about all the Hermione members, maybe we can incorporate our traditions into our answers. Or just answer how you think strictly Hermione and the others would celebrate it!

I'll be happy to incorporate some of my traditions into my answer... Do you have something called a christmas calendar? It is basically that you have a calendar that goes from the 1. Desember to the 24. Desember. It consists of 24 little packages of things you can fill yourself. It doesn't have to be anything big, maybe some candy or some toys for the children. I think it would be cute if Hermione and Ron made one for each other and offcourse one for the kids. Ron can give Hermione a rose or a coupon for a romantic meal one day and Hermione can give Ron.. argh it is hard to think of something for guys! But you understand the deal right? And offcourse on the 23. Desember the entire Weasley family is gathered for porridge. My family has a tradition where we hide an almond in the porridge and whoever finds it wins a piece of marzipan. It is really a cosy tradition and my mother always make sure that the little children finds an almond and gets marzipan too. You might call this cheating, but we don't want to have them screaming for marzipan all night do we? Anyway after years of reading Donald I've understood that Americans and Brits open up presents on the 25. Desember. Here we open them up on the evening of 24. Desember, when Santa comes knocking at the door after a long meal. The Weasleys will offcourse keep the british tradition, but after the opening of presents I think they will go to visit the graves of their loved ones and honour them.

Do you think Hermione's intelligence was a product of her need to prove herself in the wizarding world ?

I think Hermiones intelligence was a product of her trying to live up to her parents and of her will to work hard for her grades. I think Hermione would work hard for her grades and intelligence regardless of what world she belonged too.

What would Hermione's personality be like had she been a pureblood ?

I don't think it would have changed that much. Except that she might be a bit more confident and sure of herself because she would have known how the wizarding world worked.

And no I haven't forgotten...

HAPPY BIRTHDAY KRISTINA!!

I hope you had a wonderful day and got all that you wished for biggrin.gif Horray! magic.gif
ihkny
Thank you all so much ! My birthday was great and all of the well-wishes from my e-buddies (you guys here at VTM) made it even better !

I don't feel like answering any of the Hermione questions. dry.gif I guess I will though... Sorry seester, yours won't be answered because I'm not a Christmas oriented person (you know this !)

Norberta: Good look on getting your license !! I am sick of politics too. *Sings "Why Can't We Be Friends?"* Lol !

What would Hermione's personality be like had she been a pureblood ?

It all depends on who her parents ended up being ! *shrug* I know, terrible answer for a terrible question. I just don't have to brain power to answer these. I just wanna color. And drink my coke slushie.

Do you think Hermione's intelligence was a product of her need to prove herself in the wizarding world ?

I like this question better. I think her intelligence level is a product of her need to prove herself, but she didn't just feel it in the Wizarding World; she felt the need for it in the Muggle World as well. You don't naturally have intelligence, you have to build it, create it. Intelligence is the ability to learn or understand or to deal with new or trying situations, and Hermione rushes head long into things like this. In a way, couldn't we say that Intelligence is linked to Courage ? Hermione's Intelligence may possibly be one of the reasons she was sorted into Gryffindor instead of Ravenclaw, don't you think ? Do I need to explain more where I am going and why I think as such ?

~ihkny
Alastorlet_and_Proud!
How do you think the Weasley family(as in Hermione and Ron and the kids) celebrates Christmas?? I know everybody has different traditions, so as a way for us to learn about all the Hermione members, maybe we can incorporate our traditions into our answers. Or just answer how you think strictly Hermione and the others would celebrate it!

My answers a bit of both, seeing as I'm sure the Weasleys would have a traditional British Christmas, and I'm English, so...

TWO WEEKS BEFORE: The children write their letters to Father Christmas saying what they would like for Christmas. They then burn them in a nice open fire so that the letters will get 'magically' transported to Father Christmas (some British children also send them to the North Pole via post, or let them float away in the wind). The christmas tree is set up and decorated, and there is often a little nativity set set up somewhere.

CHRISTMAS EVE: The whole family arrives to stay the night. The children get ONE present to open, and it will be their special pair of Christmas pyjamas (that's just me and my family, not a traditional custom!). They put up their stockings (giant felt socks, really) at the end of their beds (or above the fireplace, if you're really traditional) and leave Santa a glass of sherry (or port) and a plate of mince pies, often with a carrot for Rudolph the reindeer. The kids go to bed at the normal time and they fall asleep [eventually]. Then Santa comes along and fills the stockings for the kids (yeah, you know what I'm talking about!).

CHRISTMAS MORNING: The children wake up really early, unrap all of their stocking presents, and then take them to show the begrudgingly woken adults. Breakfast is eaten around half past eight with the presents under the tree [the ones from family and friends] only opened AFTER everyone has finished. Half the tree presents are opened, and the other half saved until later. Christmas lunch consists of something light in preparation for the large dinner. Christmas dinner, is when everyone who is going to arrive arrives and you have roast turkey with brussel sprouts, roast potatoes, steamed cabbage, broccoli, parsnips, sweet potatoesand pine-nut stuffing. You then have the traditional Christmas pudding, doused with brandy so that you can set fire to it, with a little sprig of holly on top. There is a 20 pence piece (er... about a nickel I think. It used to be an old sixpence piece, but since the pound was introduced, it can be anything from one pound (one dollar forty) to 50p ($0.70) to 20p) hidden in one of the slices, and whoever gets it keeps it. The rest of the presents are opened after dinner, and there is usually a lot of talking amongst the adults while the kids play with their toys. Anyone who is not staying departs and they all go to sleep full and happy.

Wow, sorry you had to put up with my Christmas ramblings!

Ellie
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sadie_urlady523
Grrr... Sorry, everyone, but I don't have much time to answer anything. I've got loads of homework. How 'bout a question of my own?

How do you think Hermione, Ron, and the kids celebrate Thanksgiving? Feel free to incorporate your own traditions into it.

Oh, and I know I said this in the B-day thread, but Happy Birthday, Kristina! woot.gif

OK... On to the work!

Duckie
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Hermione17
Hey Hermione-ettes and Hermione-dude!!! LOL So sorry I haven't popped in. I've been extremely busy writing. So I'm taking a break and decided to see what my pals are up to. And by the looks of it...a lot! By the way HAPPY BIRTHDAY KRISTINA!!! Yay!!

Now to some questions.....

How do you think Hermione, Ron, and the kids celebrate Thanksgiving? Feel free to incorporate your own traditions into it.

They probably have a big meal. Either they share the holiday between the parents or they all get together. I would love to see Hermione get Mrs. Weasley to let her have Thanksgiving at her home. That way all the weasley's can come, and Hermione's parents. Sometimes the In-Laws feel uncomfortable at the other's home...especially if there is a lot of magic going on, and they are the only ones that can't do magic. I think a neutral place would be perfect.

How do you think the Weasley family(as in Hermione and Ron and the kids) celebrates Christmas?? I know everybody has different traditions, so as a way for us to learn about all the Hermione members, maybe we can incorporate our traditions into our answers. Or just answer how you think strictly Hermione and the others would celebrate it!

I also do the Christmas calleneder. I looked forward to it when I was a kid. It usually told the story of Christmas each day when you opened the little window. There were different kinds of chocolate in each window. And when you got to Christmas...you finished the story.

Christmas Eve, my entire family would get together and have a huge feast! I'm talking Turkey, Ham, all the trimmings and different pies, a french pastry (That is a tradition in the family). We had everything, and all of it was made from scratch. Us kids would make christmas cookies and decorate them ourselves...some of them looked more like Halloween cookies LOL! Not everyone was an artist!.

It was basically my Grandma and my mom making everything and I always watched. Now my Grandma has passed away a while ago and my mom lives 1500 mils away, I've continued the traditions on my own. I've made 12 Holiday dinners...Thanksgiving and Christmas combined. I do it all by scratch, just like my 2 favorite cooks did.

My aunt would hide and we all had to sing "Here comes Santa Claus". She wouldn't appear until we got so loud we were almost screaming. Then we would take turns passing around gifts from under the tree and opening them. It was a lot of fun!

On Christmas day we were all with our own little families, opening up presents, drinking hot chocolate and having a good time. Later in the day everyone would come over for left overs, everyone would talk about their Christmas morning and us kids would go nuts playing with everything.

Since I'm older, I've also started a tradition where I always give back. I make sure I buy extra and go to my local food drive and give to the families that really need it. We also have a toys for tots. I think it's so important to give to others, it's the ultimate gift. I can totally see Hermione running a place to give back to others.

I would hope that Hermione and Ron start traditions of their own, or even continue with some that have been passed down. I know they will spend the holidays around family, which is good. There is nothing like family!


Okay..I think this is long enough...I'll answer the rest later.

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Hermione17
Okay, I'm back to answer the last few questions...here it goes biggrin.gif

What would Hermione's personality be like had she been a pureblood ?

Well, if she had the same parents I could see her being intelligent still. But she may not have been much of a loner like she was before Harry, Ron and herself really started being friends. Hermione was an outcast because she was a mudblood...so being pureblood would lead me to think that she would have had a lot more friends growing up as well as in Hogwarts. In turn she would have been more outgoing and confident in other areas other than learning. But I agree with a lot of you. It all stems from who her parents would be.


Do you think Hermione's intelligence was a product of her need to prove herself in the wizarding world ?

I think Hermione's intelligence is a product of her family. Your parents are supposed to instill at a very young age just how important school is. Between parents and teachers making learning fun and interesting would make Hermione WANT to learn. Once you get into that mind set...it's like second nature to naturally want to learn and excel.

When Hermione arrived at Hogwarts I think this need to learn was heightened. All she had in the beginning was her intelligence. The thirst to prove herself and show everyone that you don't have to be a pureblood to be an exceptional witch without a doubt was a driving force for Hermione.

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sadie_urlady523
How do you think Hermione, Ron, and the kids celebrate Thanksgiving? Feel free to incorporate your own traditions into it.

Well, I think that they pretty much go tradtional. At least, as traditional as magic can get. A big meal, perhaps with the Weasly grandparents and Granger grandparents, with turkey, cranberry sauce, etc. And then some "magical" food, like pumpkin pasties, chocolate frogs, and some good old fashioned muggle pies and ice cream with a magic flair, like color changing, etc.

How do you think the Weasley family(as in Hermione and Ron and the kids) celebrates Christmas?? I know everybody has different traditions, so as a way for us to learn about all the Hermione members, maybe we can incorporate our traditions into our answers. Or just answer how you think strictly Hermione and the others would celebrate it!

OK, I'll pretty much give my Christmas traditions, because there's not much else that I know to do.

First, a week or two before Christmas, my sisters go and sit on Santa's lap. It's usually just at the local mall or whatever, but hey, it works! Then on Christmas eve, my sisters and dad go to the 7 p.m. mass at church, and then my mom and I go to the midnight mass at church. My sisters write a letter to Santa Claus, and then leave it out with some cookies and milk. My littlest sister thinks that Santa needs some variety, so she puts out cheese as well. laugh.gif Then they go out into the yard and throw oats on the ground for Santa's reindeer.

On Christmas morning, I go and wake up my parents. Then we wait until we get the OK to come downstairs (we all share a room). When my parents have had their coffee and are ready to take pictures and whatnot, we run downstairs and straight to the stockings on our mantle. We empty those, and then open up all of the presents that have been sent to us, adn all that Santa has given us. Then we go to church again.

That night, all of our friends (our family all lives too far away, either in Illinois, New York, or Australia) come over and we have a big Christmas party. My dad and mom both make food, and it's totally untraditional. Its stuff like BBQ meatballs, chili, cheese and crackers, etc. Then we sing happy birthday and give cake to my mom, because she was born on Christmas day.

I can really see the Weasley's doing that, just minus all of the "I"s and "We"s.

Duckie
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dewet_pdw88
Hey ladies

I got my result and I am glad to say that I have passed my subjects. biggrin.gif Hey now we can have a little celebration for everything that has happened this week. Drinks will be served at the end of my speech please be pasient...

Norberta congates on getting your licence, I have mine whom else has gotten their licence. Just curious mellow.gif

How do you think Hermione, Ron, and the kids celebrate Thanksgiving? Feel free to incorporate your own traditions into it.
I have no idea we don't celebrate Thanksgiving. But I geuss it would be Hermione, Ron, the Kids, and the Grandparents: Weasley and Granger. All together somewhere and just enjoying a nice meal. Maybe Ron and Hermione will take every one to some Wizarding restaurant

*Onto the celbration: congrates to Norberta, Kristina and me and who ever else wants to be congratulated for something just say I will do the honors. Alabama Cocktail, Bermuda Swizzle, Breckenridge Mudslide, Bronx Cocktail, Curaçao Ariba, Long Beach Iced Tea(Cranberry), Long Island Iced Tea(Sour Spalsh), Tahoe Tomakaze, Targhee Two-Step, Viequense, Westside Manhattan These are all get out of town cocktail. But we will use them as celebration cocktails. Enjoy*

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Nasuada
Hey.....dude. laugh.gif I haven't gotten my licence yet. I only got my permit in July. I'm going to take the drivers test in the Spring since I won't be doing to much driving in the winter with the snow anyway.

How do you think Hermione, Ron, and the kids celebrate Thanksgiving? Feel free to incorporate your own traditions into it.

Oh probably just the typical traditions as far as getting together with family goes. Everyone would most likely get together and have a huge dinner consisting of a turkey, mashed potatoes, squash, etc, and then lots of deserts. I like what sadie said about wizarding pastries along with muggle pies and stuff like that. Just a huge family feast! happy.gif

Chelsea
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