in the department of mysteries the door that eats up harry's knife. why did it eat up harry's knike and why could he not get into the room. does anyone have any answers?


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IMHO I believe that room is the one that DD says that contains a "force more woderful and more terrible than death". I think it has something to do with emotions and the ability to love, be sad, be happy, be worried and care for someone...

I doubt we'll ever find out whats in the room precisely. I'm sure though that we will be pretty sure by the end of the series.

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I agree with what Hallia says. Dumbledore also said that there is a door to that room that is never opened.
Why would it be locked like that?
How would an Unspeakable be able to study if they can't enter?

Maybe the Unspeakables can open it, they may have an special spell or charm to enter that room so only they can enter

It's probably there lunch room lol so thats all thats in my head right now lol.

I doubt we'll ever find out what was in there. It was probably just something Rowling put in to either revert back to, or give fans something to ponder.

The door that eats up harry's knife i think,is not supposed to be opened.If he opened it he would find things that are much greater than anyone.

why are you so pesimisthic?jkr didn`t put that door for nothing in the book,there must be something related to it..maybe we will find out in the seventh book what`s all about.maybe that`s the room that hides the potion or the power which voldemort wqnts so bad..you know that his purpose is to not get killed.he wants immortality.we dont`t know for sure what he did to himself to not get killed.

The supossed weapon that LV wanted so badly was the knowledge of how to destroy Harry, in DD´s words; it was the prophecy. I still think that in that room lies the power of emotions.

Maybe she just wanted to get rid of the 'all powerful knife'...

Okay... I know, that was a stupid idea. But hey, he can't use it anymore, since it's melted! But I'm pretty sure that door is still important. Maybe it's where they stashed Sirius! -tries to tear down door- Yeah... I'm thinking it some sort of 'love' emotion inside there or something.

I think you have a point there, now both practically and metaphorically all doors are no open to Harry without his 'all powerful Knife' given to him by Sirius.

But If Harry has such an understanding of Love, longing and other emotions which Volde knows nothing about, why was it the most protected room in the Department of Mysteries? Harry managed to easily gain access to other rooms (relatively speaking) in the DoM, which contained pretty dangerous things.

As a wee side note could it be that the Mirror of Erised was constructed in this room, or by using the forces in the room? After all it deals with emotions and is both a very powerful and dangerous magical artefact. Maybe this is what Dumbledore meant by a force both more wonderful and terrible than death?

Very good point Souljacker. the Mirror od Erised could have been made there if it is emotions that they study there.
My guess is that it was the most protected room because, as DD said, it is a force more wonderful and more terrible than death, and I guess it has to be very controlled.

yes i think your right dyanne it will definately be brought up in HBP or book seven

because the ministry will have a super duper spell to guard the super doopa things in the super doopa room, or voldemort or his death eaters will get them and invade the world!!!!! muhhuhahahahahahahahahahaha!!!!!

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i think that room that eats up harry's knife is the door that holds a powerful magic or force. the one that dumbledore said. and as what dumbledore said, it is harry's weapon - his brave heart is the weapon.
and i think that door is not just opened by the knife sirius gave harry or any other unlocking spell (alohomora) i think a wizard with a good personality could open that. the reason why harry couldn't open it maybe is because everything is getting more and more tough. i mean he's already losing his temper of wanting to see sirius but at the end the truth is that voldemort just make use of his mind.
but most probably, that was really the door which holds a great power!

Yeah I agree with everyone who says it's the door that contains that power that Harry has. Wonder if he'll ever open it? I mean it seems impossible. If a key that unlocks every door can't open it, what will?

I believe that a wizard bearing either no will to live-all love and feeling gone or a wizard with such a powrful love that none other may contain may enter... who know?
*Jk Rowling jumps up and down with hand in air*

Darkshrimp posted this in another thread but it belongs here
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What was behind that door? it seems mysteries.... You know the one in the circular room and when Harry tries to open it with the knife, it melted it..

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continue the discussion!

Hey now here's a twist to all the theories, Maybe Lily worked in the D.O.M just maybe she worked in that room. Where did she work when she left Hogwarts.

maybe its the room were the sorcerers stone was made. it could have so many dangers things in the that DD put a spell on it so only he could open it. Or nicolas flammel

luna said something about fudge keeping an army of heliopaths in OOTP...but what if there really are such things as heliopaths..and this is where they keep them locked up??...that would explain why the knife blade would melt..except that it would have taken harrys' hand off too...

I think that this room has no purpose...i belive that j.k have added this room just to disconcert us...

Since it obviously was not mentioned much in HBP, I'm fairly certain it'll be a weapon that has to do with emotions. From what DD's said, that what it seems like to me. What else would it logically be? DD's even told Harry that one of the greatest things about him is his power to love and feel emotion, and he basically said that's what the weapon was behind that door.

All I'm really wondering about now is how he's going to open it.

i have come to tha conclusion that the closed room serves for a pourpes(and i want to apologise for my first report )
I belive like others that the locked room is most likely love, the most powerful force anyone had known.. Love has the power to make people do silly thing, and also is most certenly powerful then evil.A room with this kind of power i belive it could melt a knife.

I think that whatever is behind that door, whether it is the entire room, or a single artifact, it will be significant. If Voldy does have to die, perhaps that once all the horcruxes are destroyed and Voldy is the only thing left, gettin gVoldy in that room with him will be how Voldermort dies. Not via the AK or some other unforgiveable deathdealing method, but they both enter and Harry being of pure heart and being able to forgive him, shows true love and he will not be destroyed, but Voldy will. "As two men enter, one man leaves" type of thing. Predictable I know, but heart warming as well.

wow man what an excellent summary just wish it to be so... theres a possibility that both of them will enter that room (since harry's love skills arent that powerful to destroy voldy) he might need something this powerful to aid him in his mission, but i guess that might be included at the end. the first and most important thing is to destroy all the horcruxes. because if the horcruxes live voldy's death is impossible

Dumbledore said that there was a door kept locked at all times in the Department of Mysteries and it contained the most magical power of all....love

I'm 100% sure that thats the room he was talking about

there may be future reference to the room or maybe it was just brought up to destroy the knife the last thing he had to remind him of sirius besides the mirror

as for the Mirror of Erised it was mentioned that Rowena Ravenclaw had a enchanted mirror

I believe it was the Mirror of Erised and that the mirror is now one of Voldemorts horcruxes
and if it was Rowenas then it wouldnt have been made in the Department of Mysteries

Have any of you any idea where Harry will find the remaining Horcruxes?

Hmmm... im wondering if one of them is at the riddles house? Or maybe the base of where he usually lives when he torturing, murdering and threatning people. Or i wouldnt be surprised if one is at the Orphanage, or maybe Hogwarts itself.

Ya im guessing the Godric Hollow as well, Good thinking.

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yeah I like that idea



ooohhh and this one too.
maybe they are both the same thing. maybe this all powerful LOVE can create this burning spirit Heliopath. It would it explain the burning of the knife and this ongoing ramble about the power Harry has what Voldemort knows not, LOVE, in the secret room. Heliopath = Strong Burning Love

The department of mysteries is a topic that has been merely brushed upon throughout the entire Harry Potter series. JK gets into very little detail about its purpose and what is in it, but never-the-less she keeps us aware that it exists. I believe that the answer to all of our questions about just about everything will be answered by what is in the department of mysteries.

It would be very interesting if that was the room with heliopaths in it. However, I doubt it. I do think that that this is the room that contains the power of love.

As LilyPotter said, we will find out in the next book.

I wouldnt put to much credit on anything Luna says or anything that is published in The Quibbler

I also agree that it is love in that room. But in the form of something burning like a Heliopath. If it is love in that room.... what would make love an object to study.
Something melted the knife, so if love is in there then it's hot. There has been all this talk about how love is the power Voldermort knows not. What if it was really a big power, a Heliopath. And maybe it can be summoned from you and destroy. Maybe that is what was summoned when Lily gave her life for Harry. Part of the ancient magic.
For instance, Harry is protected by love/heliopath. When Voldemort tried to attack Harry the Heliopath protected Harry destroying some of the house and Voldemort. That would explain why Quirrell tried to touch him he was protected by love burning Quirrell. Voldemort couldn't possess Harry too long because he was filled with love, maybe it was burning Voldemort.

Since people are discussing heliopaths in the context of the room full of "hot, strong love" -- anybody remember the context for that reference? -- it might be useful to define this word. Helios was the Greek god of the sun until his role was taken over by Apollo. The suffix "-path" can mean either "A practitioner of a specified kind of medical treatment" or "One affected by a specified kind of disorder." In either case, there is a disease connotation present, and it could therefore be significant that Apollo was also the god of medicine and healing.

So, considering that this invented word "heliopath" is probably symbolic, who might be the most likely candidate to fill the role of sun god, healer and possibly embodiment of love in the Potterverse? Well, whose colors are red and gold? Whose traditional element is fire? And whose House virtues have to do with what lies within the heart? There, I suspect, you will find the answer to this puzzle.

I agree that the room that couldn't be opened was the room that Dumbledore said, "containes a force more terrible and more powerful than anyhing man can understand," or something like that. But I disagree about the whole Heliopaths thing, remember this room contains the strongest kind of magic, becuase [i]The Quibbler[/ir and also Luna believes in them. Finally, one of the founders of the department of mysteries could have created a spell to lock the door for a long time or maybe forever.

that place is highly protected and not very much objects or stuff could probably get you through some places. it might be too secretive or unknown in certain rooms. never know what's behind every door. hmm..guess that's why it's called the department of mysteries then...hehehe!!

the department of mysteries for me is such a powerfuplace... given the fact that the knife sirius gave harry can open all lock doors, i was thinking that a magical knife would not be of great help even in opening other doors in the DoM... i was also thinking that the room behind that door holds something powerful... that simple magical equipments would not be of great use... hmm... just an opinion of mine...

I think that i have replied to a similar post in this forum.
there must have been a powerful charm on the door for it not to be opened. the reason would be because its the room that holds something that not everyone would be able to stand or survive. i suppose that the locked room whose door melted harry's knife holds love.

yeah
i agree with you, kid
there probably was a strong charm on the door and what was inside was a powerful substance.
dont any of you remember at one point in time dumbledore mentioned a room that had a powerful and dangerous force inside a room that is kept locked at all times and that harry had large quantities of it and voldemort had none of it?
well, i believe that that room contained love (however that is possible)

I agree with warning sign503 i really think that the door isnt supposed to be opened b cause i think only the unspeakables should be able to harness the info if is knowledge
and the unspeakables have to have a certain spell or charm to get in and if anyone except them tries maybee they might end up like Angelina in HBP

but then again it could be something emotional like love or hatred if that is possible

I agree with alohomora that the room contains love. Maybe it contains so much love that no one can even bear to walk into it, and if Voldemort did, he would probably die.