Full Version: Lily's Big Secret?
I've searched and i didn't find a thread like this, but you know how in HBP there is going to be a huge secret about Lily revealed? What are your thoughts? I've been thinking and can't seem to come up with anything...
Has JK said that?? uhm, I didn´t know. I have absolutely no idea what can it be, but maybe it´s got something to do with Petunnia´s situation?? Just an idea, probably not, but hey, what do I know. 
JKR said that something big would be revealed about Lily in HBP. It's over at Mugglenet even! They updated recently saying that a site for pre-buying HBP said that something big would be revealed about her and I remember reading somewhere where JKR said that herself.
I think JKR said that Harry would learn about his mother on two occasions from the last three books. One of which would be significant.
Maybe its an explanation of her eyes. When it comes to how Harry resembles Lily, people usually say he has her eyes.
Maybe its an explanation of her eyes. When it comes to how Harry resembles Lily, people usually say he has her eyes.
I do recall reading something Jk said in an interview about the fact of HArry´s eyes being like Lily's important
hmm Lily's bif secret, vould be a name of one of the chapters. There is another thread about lily which is discussing if she's a muggleborn or not(because of the name) well, what if this is her big secret that Petunia really isn't her sister. I know on OoTP "Snapes' worst memory" snape says muddblood to Lily, but it's a secret snap wouldn't know about it. what do you think of this thoery?
I'm not sure about the whole muggleborn thing if it's true, yet. When snape said that Lily was a muggle that could be a hint that not one knows about it if she is. Maybe thats why Harry is leaving the Dursley's so soon...if petunia isn't her real sister...he isn't related to them? maybe Lily is adopted or something lol I don't know
I just figured, Dumbledore has Harry living by the Dursleys because it protects him. The old blessing Dumbledore lay upon Harry wich Petunoa sealed by taking Harry in and let him livv with them. so Lily's big secret can't be a pure blood, unless petunia is a wich or that dumbledore was wrong, perhaps he didn't knew Lily was a pure blood, but I doubt that.
I agree with Lulu, DD´s charm wouldn´t have had any effect if Petunia wasn´t really Lily´s sister
well, like in my other topic i still think that lilly isnt a muggleborn, but uhm, ::cough:: some people have dont think that, hmm, so anyway i think the big news will all have to deal with Lillys blood, as to who she's related to, if shes a muggleborn, ect...
well if you have seen the u.s cover for HBP then it will show dumbledore showing harry something in the pensieve it could be something about lily.
What if her secret's that she's somehow related to Voldemort? I personally can't see that being at all possible, but it'd be interesting.
Alright, still going with the "pureblood" idea, how about rest of of Lily's family are squibs? Maybe her parents are squibs and didn't tell their children because they figured they'd be magicless, too. And Petunia is a squib as well, and she knows a bit about the magical world.
Plus is seemed kind of signifigant that Petunia knew about they dementors in OOTP. At least, the dwellled on Harry being surprised about it it alot.
Pg. 32: "Harry was stunned. Except for one outburst years ago, in the course of which Aunt Petunia had screamed that Harry's mother had been a freak, he had never heard her mention her sister. He was astounded that she remembered this scrap of information about the magical world for so long, when she usually put all her energies into pretending it didn't exist."
Plus is seemed kind of signifigant that Petunia knew about they dementors in OOTP. At least, the dwellled on Harry being surprised about it it alot.
Pg. 32: "Harry was stunned. Except for one outburst years ago, in the course of which Aunt Petunia had screamed that Harry's mother had been a freak, he had never heard her mention her sister. He was astounded that she remembered this scrap of information about the magical world for so long, when she usually put all her energies into pretending it didn't exist."
I think it could be the pure-blood thing but I am not sure if this is really a BIG thing, I mean it won't really change anything in Harry's life.
I think a secret like (that is what I heard) Lily being a Death Eater could be right too, it's could be the eyes, it could be their job (where they got all that money for Harry?).
I like the fact that Harry is not a pure blood because it makes him more like Voldemort
Hermione went with her parents on Diagon Alley so Lily's family probably went too, her parents were proud to have a witch in the family, so yeah they could be squibs but they could be muggles.Since there was a war against Voldemort, maybe Lily just talked about this to her family, and Petunia was probably there.
I think a secret like (that is what I heard) Lily being a Death Eater could be right too, it's could be the eyes, it could be their job (where they got all that money for Harry?).
I like the fact that Harry is not a pure blood because it makes him more like Voldemort
Hermione went with her parents on Diagon Alley so Lily's family probably went too, her parents were proud to have a witch in the family, so yeah they could be squibs but they could be muggles.Since there was a war against Voldemort, maybe Lily just talked about this to her family, and Petunia was probably there.
Lily´s no DE!! How could you...! JK´s has stated in her web that she definitely was no DE.
maybe the secret is that she was a spy for voldemort and it all went horribly wrong when she betrayed him for not wanting him to kill her son [just a thought]
If she´s no DE, how could she be a spy for LV?? Again, no way!!How could you...! 
I think the secret about lilly potter is that her eyes process elf magic, and shes passed the gean onto harry who has the same color eyes, and thats why he can do amazing things with his eyes, he could even be related to dobby! Who knows.
I hope that you like my theory.
All my love for harry potter and roses,
Lilly Rose
I hope that you like my theory.
All my love for harry potter and roses,
Lilly Rose
Erm....are you serious or just taking the mickey?
I just thought I'd ask before I start yelling....
I just thought I'd ask before I start yelling....
I know she said that something about lily will be on her book. Maybe it has do with her sister.
Yep. She said that.....*starts to write long list*
Harry's parents' profession will be a big part of the plot.
Something HUGE will be revealed about Lily Potter.
Okay, so list isn't long. At all. But the fact that something HUGE will be revealed about Lily is....interesting.
I wonder what it is....
Well, I'm rubbish at guessing so, I'll leave it up to other's hehe
But, I think the squib idea was good. But I honestly can't think of ANYTHING. At all. Which is why I'm so surprised when the books come out! Hehehe...
Harry's parents' profession will be a big part of the plot.
Something HUGE will be revealed about Lily Potter.
Okay, so list isn't long. At all. But the fact that something HUGE will be revealed about Lily is....interesting.
I wonder what it is....
Well, I'm rubbish at guessing so, I'll leave it up to other's hehe
But, I think the squib idea was good. But I honestly can't think of ANYTHING. At all. Which is why I'm so surprised when the books come out! Hehehe...
Since there seems to be a red head woman on the popout stands, maybe even the book then I believe that most of the book will be about Lily. Maybe Lily was an unspeakable. Because she was good at charms.And I highly doubt they were use for the sick and shut in. 
Also does anyone think that you can tranform your eyes to make it have magical capabilites becasue I really getting the feeling that you can.
Also does anyone think that you can tranform your eyes to make it have magical capabilites becasue I really getting the feeling that you can.
Argh! This question has been bugging me forever!
J.K said that something big will be revealed about Lily, this doesn't have to mean that it's a secret it just means that harry founds out something about his mum that he didn't know before thats all. Maybe it's that she is a pureblood but and that Petunia is only her half-sister and that one of her parents re-married or something therefor petunia can still be a muggle or a squib (even though J.K has already denied this).
-Jules
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I'm kinda contradicting my last post with this but anyway this was just an after thought.
What if Lily's secret is that Harry has an older Brother/Sister!!!
I don't know how that works but it's just a thought and maybe his long lost sibling is the half blood prince.
| QUOTE (Jules62442 @ Apr 5 2005, 03:41 AM) |
| I'm kinda contradicting my last post with this but anyway this was just an after thought. What if Lily's secret is that Harry has an older Brother/Sister!!! I don't know how that works but it's just a thought and maybe his long lost sibling is the half blood prince. -Jules |
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Could Neville and Harry be fraternal twins?
I was kinda thinking that aswell but they'r like complete opposites.-Jules
her big secret could be something like shes related to someone like the malfoys (very distant cousins or something like that )
How could Harry and Neville be brothers?? We´ve seen Neville's parents and Harry´s and their not the same people. I can´t see that one as a possibility, sorry.
| QUOTE (Hallia @ Apr 5 2005, 05:39 PM) |
| How could Harry and Neville be brothers?? We´ve seen Neville's parents and Harry´s and their not the same people. I can´t see that one as a possibility, sorry. |
Neville lives with his Grandmother. Maybe Lilly is related to Neville's "mother" in the hospital. Maybe that's not his real mom? Could be a possibility...
Yeah, I think JKR said on her sight that there was no way Lily Potter was a death eater. If I'm wrong and she never said that, I really hope that she isn't, it would ruin the whole idea that Lily was a caaring loving person who gave up her life for her son. The idea of Lily being a Death Eater just gets me creeped out.
maybe lily wasn't really in love with james. he put a spell on her or something. or maybe lily had another kid like harry's twin. perhaps she was going to be the next minister of magic. and i don't remember if some one alread said this, but she could be related to LV. just random thoughts that i come up with. i'll have more thoughts later.
I remember Voldemort saying that Harry's mother wasnt a pure-blood
I won't contradict Voldemort, I think he's right on that point.
By the way... I think it's not between Voldemort and Lily that s the big secret (Just a though).
I won't contradict Voldemort, I think he's right on that point.
By the way... I think it's not between Voldemort and Lily that s the big secret (Just a though).
| QUOTE (punkxpotter @ Feb 28 2005, 12:49 PM) |
| I'm not sure about the whole muggleborn thing if it's true, yet. When snape said that Lily was a muggle that could be a hint that not one knows about it if she is. Maybe thats why Harry is leaving the Dursley's so soon...if petunia isn't her real sister...he isn't related to them? maybe Lily is adopted or something lol I don't know |
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| I'm not sure about the whole muggleborn thing if it's true, yet. |
Well, do you remember that JKR said that Petunie isn't squib but...? And in 1998(or 99? I don't really remember) there was a question in some interview if there can be students at Hogwarts who didn't do magic when they were children but when they got older, they became wizards/witches. And she answered that there aren't any wizards, who didn't show magic before 11 exept one person, who find out that he/she can charm in adulthood in emergency. And first person, who you can think about is Petunie.
But, when it's true, there is a problem. How is possible that muggles had two children and both of them are witches? It seems bit odd, doesn't it? But what if Lily's parents aren't completly muggles? They were so happy when Lily got her letter... Maybe they were just squibs. Maybe Lily's family is really interesting. Because, if it isn't I don't know what interesting can be about her. There wouldn't be any interesting past, just boring life of intelligent muggleborn witch. But I don't know, how can JKR write "good stuff" about THAT.
Well, I've to say that now, when I'm reading what I've written, I think that I'm compleatly crazy.
P.S.: Sorry for my terrrrible english, but I hope you understood what I wanted to say.
Well, the Colin brothers are fromn Muggle parents and they're bpth wizards, so maybe it is weird but not that impossble. I wrote somewhere that I thought maybe Lily's father or mother was a Squib, and that way there is more to Petunia than meets the eye.
I hadn't read about any adult conjuring in emergencies, didn't know JK had said that, but now that I know I do think that that person could be Petunia, it does make sense to me.
I hadn't read about any adult conjuring in emergencies, didn't know JK had said that, but now that I know I do think that that person could be Petunia, it does make sense to me.
When I read that Harry would be finding out about Lily I must have been looking at it a liitle simply.
I just thought that since Harry was having to seriously comtemplate what he wanted to do with his life (career wise I mean). I just thought it might have been natural curiosity for him to want to know what his parents did for a living. Even if for no other reason than to know more about them.
Although it would have made since to me that he would have asked Lupin, Surius, Mr. Weasley back at the Grimmwauld place.
Has anyone else found this lingering detail a little odd?
I just thought that since Harry was having to seriously comtemplate what he wanted to do with his life (career wise I mean). I just thought it might have been natural curiosity for him to want to know what his parents did for a living. Even if for no other reason than to know more about them.
Although it would have made since to me that he would have asked Lupin, Surius, Mr. Weasley back at the Grimmwauld place.
Has anyone else found this lingering detail a little odd?
Now that you mention it, it does seem a bit weird. We actually know almost nothing about Lily's and James' lifes. Maybe their jobs is something Jk has kept silent for some reason... It is weird that Harry has never asked... I know I mentioned this somewhere too, but there are more things that JK has concealed from us, like what are the cores of Lily's and James' wands. These things may have an important role to play in the future.
i have read all these replys and i think they are all right me myself havn't got a clue how do think of stuff like that well done. 
I think that the big 'thing' has to do with petunia. She seemed awfully frightened and willing to obey Dumbledor when the refrence was made to the first letter. JK is keeping something from us when it comes to Petunia. Honestly, I know some would gladly obey a letter that referred to death eaters etc, but Petunia knows more than JK is letting on.
Jk has said there is more to Petunia than meets the eye... But I'm not so sure about Petunia's and Lily's secrets being the same. IMHO, they maybe be connected, but I believe they are different secrets.
i think she was related to voldemort. I hope not though. otherwise it would turn into a star wars rip-off
| QUOTE (Hallia @ May 11 2005, 11:16 AM) |
| Now that you mention it, it does seem a bit weird. We actually know almost nothing about Lily's and James' lifes. Maybe their jobs is something Jk has kept silent for some reason... It is weird that Harry has never asked... I know I mentioned this somewhere too, but there are more things that JK has concealed from us, like what are the cores of Lily's and James' wands. These things may have an important role to play in the future. |
they say the cores in sorcerer's stone... lemme check...
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| "Ah yes," said the man. "Yes, yes. I thought I'd be seeing you soon. Harry Potter." It wasn't a question. "You have your mother's eyes. It seems only yesterday she was in here herself, buying her first wand. Ten and a quarter inches long, swishy, made of willow. Nice wand for charm work." |
Then...
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| "Your father, on the other hand, favored a mahogany wand. Eleven inches. Pliable. A little more power and excellent for transfiguration. Well, I say your father favored it -- it's really the wand that chooses the wizard, of course." |
pg 82
But dreamforest, those description still don't have the wand's core in them. What they have are the woods used to make the wands (which are willow and mahogany), but nothing on the cores. You know, Harry's have tail of phoenix and Ron's have unicorn's hair?
I've checked in HP Lexicon and they don't have them either so I just don't bother to skimmed through all five books... if they don't have them, then so are the books... It's one of the best HP site to check for details... (and very handy when you play the 'trivia' game... )
So, yeah, I'm sure the reason it's hidden from us is because of future plot... but where's the fun if we don't try to guess, eh?
I've checked in HP Lexicon and they don't have them either so I just don't bother to skimmed through all five books... if they don't have them, then so are the books...
It's one of the best HP site to check for details... (and very handy when you play the 'trivia' game... ) So, yeah, I'm sure the reason it's hidden from us is because of future plot... but where's the fun if we don't try to guess, eh?
I think that Lily's past is related with the half blood prince. Perhaps she was half blood and either her mother or father was a witch or a wizard, but then something happened to one of them and Lily and Petunia ended up living with their muggle mother/father. That could explain that other students at Hogwarts didn't actually know that she was half blood instead of muddblood (sorry, i didn't want to use that word but i couldn't find another one). Perhaps Lily's mother was a witch and she died or left her house in order to save Lily from external threats, then Lily's mom had another son which was as well as Lily a wizard. Therefore the half blood prince belongs to Lily's family and is Harry's cousin or uncle. But actually this is just probably to happen as any of the other theories already exposed. i just thought that the fact that there's something hidden in lily's past (which I remember J.K. Rowling once confirmed) could be related to the HBP.
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Maybe Lily was a Seer. After all, everyone did seem uncannily aware that Voldemort was going to go after Harry. Of course, they had Trelawney's prophecy to go on as well, but Lily might have Seen that it was actually Harry that Voldemort was going to go after.
This could come out in HBP as Lily having made a prophecy about the Half-Blood Prince, also.
It could open some interesting possibilities for the seventh book, depending on what Lily's prophecies were about, exactly.
This could come out in HBP as Lily having made a prophecy about the Half-Blood Prince, also.
It could open some interesting possibilities for the seventh book, depending on what Lily's prophecies were about, exactly.
i think lily's big secret has alot to do with her eyes. jkr always talks about harry's eyes, how they look just like his mom's.There always like.. you look like your father .. but you have your mothers eyes.
i think Petunia was a squib or is a squib because she was always so jelous of her sister. thats a really good theory because shes always so mad. but petunia has to be lily's sister because if she wasnt the charm dumbledore put on harry wouldnt have worked.
But lily cannot be a death eater. because they were so close to dumbledore. Lily always hated the dark arts. like in the fifth book she got really mad at james because he was hexing or cursing snape. how do lily and james have so much money? im not sure but i dont think they worked for voldy because he didnt give them money for killin people or whatever. i agree with Hallia
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i think Petunia was a squib or is a squib because she was always so jelous of her sister. thats a really good theory because shes always so mad. but petunia has to be lily's sister because if she wasnt the charm dumbledore put on harry wouldnt have worked.
But lily cannot be a death eater. because they were so close to dumbledore. Lily always hated the dark arts. like in the fifth book she got really mad at james because he was hexing or cursing snape. how do lily and james have so much money? im not sure but i dont think they worked for voldy because he didnt give them money for killin people or whatever. i agree with Hallia
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JKR has stated that she is NOT a squib...she said something like "No, shes not a squib, shes a muggle, but....i cant tell you" along those lines.... so that cannot be right
I agree with the multiple statements about it being something about her eyes...maybe when Harry confronts LV, like the prophecy fortold, since Harry has his mother's eyes, they will burn into his soul or something, related to the protection she gave harry when she dies for him.
As for Lily being a Seer, that's a really good guess too.
Lily=DE? Definately not, and if Lily is related to LV, that really would be a Star Wars ripoff.
My theory is that Lily's eyes will be to LV, as kryptonite is to Superman: his downfall.
As for Lily being a Seer, that's a really good guess too.
Lily=DE? Definately not, and if Lily is related to LV, that really would be a Star Wars ripoff.
My theory is that Lily's eyes will be to LV, as kryptonite is to Superman: his downfall.
I guess we know we're going to be hearing something about the eyes soon. And if you think about it, that's the only secret about Lily that's really been hinted at in the books without imbellishment by zealous fans.
There's also the Lily/Lupin thing that comes out in the movie, but I think that's more Lupin's secret, rather than something Lily's.
There's also the Lily/Lupin thing that comes out in the movie, but I think that's more Lupin's secret, rather than something Lily's.
| QUOTE (Magical Poof @ Mar 26 2005, 04:13 PM) |
| Plus is seemed kind of signifigant that Petunia knew about they dementors in OOTP. At least, the dwellled on Harry being surprised about it it alot. Pg. 32: "Harry was stunned. Except for one outburst years ago, in the course of which Aunt Petunia had screamed that Harry's mother had been a freak, he had never heard her mention her sister. He was astounded that she remembered this scrap of information about the magical world for so long, when she usually put all her energies into pretending it didn't exist." |
Yes i think that part about Petunia knowing about the dementors is very significant and is something to do with the secret. definetely. i just don't know what the secret is! but.....yeh i definetely don't think that lilly's whole family except her were squibs, even though it would explain why Petunia is so bitter towards lilly. i think petunia is bitter towards lilly because of the secret though, whatever it is!
I think that it doesn't have anything to do with her sister, because she is a muggle and what would a huge wizard secret have to do with a jealous muggle sister? I think that it would have something to do with facing Voldermort 3 times. The eye color is the trait that she passed to Harry and not to mention the force field that her blood has around Harry and thats how it may involve Petunia in it but is only blood and can not do anything to change that.
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