ashleigh07
Mar 1 2005, 05:09 AM
The following post was written by I_love_Rupert_Grint, posted on Mar 1 2005, 12:46 PM but has been transferred here as it was off-topic.
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I was just wondering about the fact that if JK has revealed that a graveyard at Hogwarts is going to be a main featur of one of the future books do you think this could possibly be because one of the characters die and are buried there. And if this is the case it would have to be a mian character for the graveyard to be so important and also possibly one of the Hogwarts students or teachers if thats where the graveyard is.
Let me know what you think.
Hallia
Mar 1 2005, 10:33 AM
Well, there certainly must be a reason why JK didnīt show it to us before. Maybe Sirius is going to be buried there?? Itīs weird that the trio havenīt found it, but maybe they have and JK hasnīt told us for some reason.
If they still havenīt found out about it, there could be a possibility that Lily and James are buried there.
Mattio
Mar 2 2005, 08:55 PM
Maybe the reason it hasnt been found or mentioned yet is becasue it's hidden...It's a longshot but maybe it's somewhere in the forrest?
I_love_Rupert_Grint
Mar 3 2005, 11:38 PM
About Sirius being buried in the Hogwarts graveyard. It is a possibility but at the same time how would they be able to get his body from behind the veil because in OotP Lupin would not let Harry go near the veil and I'm not sure but I think he told Harry he was gone which I took as meaning they could not retrieve his body so I think it may be another character that dies or even the fact that James and Lily are buried there.
Also on the point that the graveyard has never been found by the trio. I think that it may be hidden in the forest but at the same time have doubts about it because the trio have eplored quite a bit of the forest and haven't found anything and also the fact that the centaurs may be against having a graveyard in "their" forest.
I think that the graveyard may be hidden by magic and this is why no one has ever come across it. Also the fact that there is a link between CoS and HBP may be something to do with the fact that like the Chamber of Secrets can only be oppened 'supposedly' by the Heir of Slytherin there may be a possibility that the graveyard can only be found by the Half Blood Prince.
Tuitus
Mar 4 2005, 02:31 AM
Cool idea!
But how would other witches/wizards be able to bury their loved ones?
Cuaron said the graveyard is at the opposite side of the grounds from where Hermione hit Draco in PA.
I agree centaurs might not be open to having humans buried in their woods.
Could the ghosts at Hogwarts protect the graveyard from intruders?
Darth_Oz
Mar 4 2005, 10:27 AM
I could be wrong but I was under the impression that the veil simply hung in an arch that you could walk round the back of?
Surely someone could just drag Sirius' body from round the other side?
Hallia
Mar 4 2005, 10:41 AM
I donīt think so because when Harry looked at the back of the arch the first time they enetered the room, there was nothing there.
LindaLikesLuna13
Mar 6 2005, 07:45 AM
Significance Of The Graveyard, Could anyone important be buried there?
Could Lily and James potter be buried on that graveyard?
Hallia
Mar 6 2005, 10:46 PM
But hasnīt JK said their bodies werenīt found??
I_love_Rupert_Grint
Mar 7 2005, 12:04 AM
I think she may have said that but I'm not sure if she did it must mean that the trio come accross the graveyard some other way and since I believe that they wont be able to retrieve Sirius' body it is very possible it is because another wizard dies and in my opinion it is Dumbledore because there is a very big chance the graveyard is for the Headmasters/headmistresses at Hogwarts.
Tuitus
Mar 7 2005, 12:54 AM
Both Hagrid and Sirius (the only people we know were there as of OP) acknowledged seeing the bodies of Mr and Mrs Potter.
Good point I_love_Rupert_Grint- the graveyard could be for the Heads.
Could the ghosts at Hogwarts protect the graveyard from intruders?
I_love_Rupert_Grint
Mar 7 2005, 01:12 AM
The ghosts protecting the graveyard has been mentioned however if they were looking after the graveyard it wuld still be visible but no one so far seems to have seen it. Therefore I think that it is a spell that has been cast or even that it's hidden like the CoS. It may even be something as simple as the Fiddelus charm but I'm not sure if this can be used to hide things such as graveyards.
Darth_Oz
Mar 8 2005, 08:21 AM
Do you think it's a conventional graveyard or more of a mausoleum?
I'll put money on Lily and James being there, possibly even other relatives of Harry...
Autumdove5
Mar 20 2005, 09:02 PM
I think the gravyard is going to be very important. I mean, JK did say something about Harry going somewhere he hasn't been before and I think Lily and James are buried there. I would make it very dramatic, on Harry's part.
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Jules62442
Apr 3 2005, 12:30 AM
Has anyone thought that maybe when J.K was talking about a graveyard in the upcoming books she may have been referring to book 4 when Voldemort comes back to life in a
GRAVEYARD. Book 4 is an upcoming book to POA so maybe she didn't want to ruin it for anyone.
Just a thought -
Jules
Souljacker
Apr 3 2005, 10:56 AM
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| Do you think it's a conventional graveyard or more of a mausoleum? Darth_Oz |
I suppose that would explain why it hasn't bee discovered by the trio yet? Maybe this is the normal burial practise for witches and wizards, from the Weasleys visit to Egypt, i seemed to get the impression that there were a lot of Egyptian Wizards and witches and Egyptians are responsible for building the pyramids, possibly the most elaborate graves that can be found anywhere. Maybe in Hogwarts theres a site set aside for Wizard tombs, which are a bit inconspicuous.
Alternatively Maybe it's not so much a set of tombs or a grave-yard but a memorial statue for the Order members who lost their lives, like the ones we have for the first and second world wars.
Maybe because so many people where lost, in the literal sense of the word that many magical families wouldn't have had too much of their deceased love one's to bury.
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| Could the ghosts at Hogwarts protect the graveyard from intruders? Tuitus |
I don't know, maybe we don't really know what power Ghosts have, if any. Maybe the Ghosts haunt Hogwarts because it's in close proximity to where they've died or been buried?
Wasnt Moaning Myrtle brought back to Hogwarts because she was haunting one of her old class-mates? Possibly because it was away from where she died?
Jules62442
Apr 5 2005, 03:36 AM
the only way i see that a graveyard is going to be involved in the upcoming books is if harry goes and sees his parents' graves
Wendelin the Weird
Apr 6 2005, 07:38 PM
No, I don't think it can be the graveyard from GoF. I remember having recently read over some interviews with the director of PoA and they wanted the graveyard near Hagrids hut for interest in the shot of Harry and Hermione hiding. But JK wouldn't let them, because of it's significance in the sixth book. Plus, that graveyard was miles away, in the village where Tom Riddle grew up.
HogwartsHopeful90
Apr 7 2005, 02:39 AM
in the beginning of GoF on page four, it says that the Riddles were buried in the Little Hangleton churchyard.....do you think there is any possiblility that this is the graveyard where the Portkey took Harry and Cedric?
something to think about...
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Jules62442
Apr 7 2005, 12:13 PM
yeah it probably is because L.V needed his fathers bone.
-jules
Hallia
Apr 7 2005, 01:26 PM
I also think it must be the graveyard where Harry was after the third task. After all, LVīs fatherīs bone came out of the earth when Wormtail was making the ritual.
| QUOTE |
| No, I don't think it can be the graveyard from GoF. I remember having recently read over some interviews with the director of PoA and they wanted the graveyard near Hagrids hut for interest in the shot of Harry and Hermione hiding. But JK wouldn't let them, because of it's significance in the sixth book. Plus, that graveyard was miles away, in the village where Tom Riddle grew up. |
I agree, Wendelin the Weird. I thought Iīd read somewhere that JK had said they couldnīt put a ghraveyard there because there was already one somewhere else on the grounds. Maybe the trio havenīt discovered it yet because Hogwartsī grounds are huge.
Louise
Apr 7 2005, 02:10 PM
I've said this before somewhere else, but the thing about this is that everyone is misinterpreting what Alfonso said. If you all go back to your PoA DVD's and look at that interview that he and JKR gave, you'll hear his actual words for yourself.
JKR told him that there was a graveyard in a later book - and there was, in GoF. She never said it was in the sixth book. Alfonso hasn't read any of the other books, so he wouldn't have known what happens in GoF. It was a flippant remark concerning the design of the film sets - do you really think JKR would have let something like that slip through if it pointed towards something that would be happening in HBP? She'd have asked them to edit it out...you know how tight-lipped she is about these things.
I still think everyone is looking way too much into this. The graveyard scene she's referring to is the one that took place in GoF - she's not going to use that again. Aside from anything else, LV would be incredibly stupid to use it again now that Harry knows about it. Anyone would soon be able to figure out where Harry was taken because he saw Tom Riddle's father's grave - they can work it out from there where the graveyard is.
The only graveyard I can see cropping up, if any, is a visit to Lily and James where a memorial to Sirius might be erected. And I don't think it's going to be a huge part of the plot even if it is in there.
james pickles
Apr 15 2005, 07:58 PM
well i think that merlin could be buried there also the hbp could be reserected from there i get what dana is saying but do we even know its at hogwarts if you do please show me because i want to see for myself also moaning myrtle could be buried there i know its not going to happen but its not impossible anyway the hbp.. yes the last chapter could be the graveyard and where the hbp is i mean it could be like to be continued i know probably none of this is going to happen but it could.
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yes of course i can, sorry for the trouble anyway. i can add a bit more to this ok here goes maybe some ancient magic or wand, staff or something really really powerful is buried in the graveyard. some sacred being could be there like lord of the rings in the mountains where those ghosts were i could be like that
Rojaneer
Apr 22 2005, 12:46 AM
I know so many other people have said it, but I think James and Lily are buried in the graveyard so Harry will visit them, but I can think of no other reason, unless it relates to Sirius.
I_love_Rupert_Grint
Jul 4 2005, 02:59 AM
I just had to write something in here after hearing about the supposed betting on the death of Dumbledore I was wondering if perhaps my initial thoughts on why this graveyard is visited may be true. Perhaps Dumbledore dies and the whole school attend his burial. I know that Dana pointed out that the graveyard mentioned was probably the one in GoF but its worth a little thought now that this news has come to light.
Ally x
therearethree
Jul 4 2005, 06:25 PM
What if the significance of the graveyard at Hogwarts lies not in who is buried there but in who is not? Harry could discover, for example, that Godric Gryffindor and Salazar Slytherin are absent. Naturally, it would be reasonable to assume that SS is not there because of the break with the other Founders, but what if that is just a convenient explanation?
kf100
Jul 4 2005, 06:47 PM
actually, Dana_Scully, the dvd said that the graveyard was in a different part of the castle from where they were. he said that they were going to put the graveyard where the trio were standing when they were watching the execution, but she said no because the graveyard wasn't there. it was in a different part of the castle. but the signaficance will probably only be the trio finding it for the first time.
LoveTheVIII
Jul 7 2005, 12:17 AM
what made yall think the graveyard is at hogwarts? look at book 4 when harry and cedric first arrive at the graveyard. jk rowling said they must be hundreds of miles awya from hogwarts. and tom riddle's dad was buried there, and he was a muggle, how could he get buried in a hogwarts graveyard?
Albus-wan
Jul 8 2005, 01:49 PM
So there are obviously two graveyards, one where LV's father was buried that we visited at the end GoF, and the one mentioned on the DVD because it was mentioned that the graveyard was on a different part of the grounds.
I think that among other people, GG is buried in the graveyard at Hogwarts. He is a noble character who is important to JKR since she had Harry use his sword to kill the basilisk in CoS. It's possible that magic is used to keep it hidden, but Dumbledore takes Harry there for some vital instruction that includes a lesson about GG and his ideals.
Maybe this is how we see a vision of GG and it will turn out that he is Character X.
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