When Bella was hearing Edward's voice in NM what did you think was happening when you first read it, not later on when you had a chance to think about it -
A ) She was delusional, her mind was calling up old 'recordings' of Edwards voice and adding tone and words to it to make her think he still cared;
B ) He was actually with her all along, invisible but there, and she was the only one hearing his voice because he was speaking low enough for only her ears to pick it up,
C ) Something else.

I thought it was B. I guess I was also hoping it would be B so he could've been there all along. He really wanted her to be safe so by staying there and somehow speaking to her, he could've ensured her safety. My old theory for why he was talking to her is that he was able to reverse his mind reading into transmitting his thoughts to someone else. I really wanted to believe he was really there. I still do, actually.

I also have something to add to the suicide question. The difference between Romeo and Juliet to Edward and Bella is like the difference between Romeo and Juliet to Troy and Gabriella from High School Musical. There isn't the same firmness of love in Twilight and High School Musical. But I suppose that using that old English language that Shakespeare used helped his story to become more beautiful.

~alyssa~

Good question Tahra!

When Bella was hearing Edward's voice in NM what did you think was happening when you first read it, not later on when you had a chance to think about it -
A ) She was delusional, her mind was calling up old 'recordings' of Edwards voice and adding tone and words to it to make her think he still cared;
B ) He was actually with her all along, invisible but there, and she was the only one hearing his voice because he was speaking low enough for only her ears to pick it up,
C ) Something else.

I was the same as you Alyssa. I thought it was B too! I was convinced he hadn't left her at all and was somewhere hiding in the wings watching over her. In fact, I was a little disappointed that the voices were all in her head. I didn't want her to be some psycho hearing things! But of course in the end it all made perfect sense!

I didn't see this answered but if it was I apologize. If you've ever been to the Twilight Lexicon website there's a whole plethora of information on the Cullens and vampires in general. The Lex got their information from personal correspondence letters with Stephenie. In fact the Wikipedia story varies from the one the Lex has.



PC1 means Personal Correspondence 1.

Hope that answers that.

When Bella was hearing Edward's voice in NM what did you think was happening when you first read it, not later on when you had a chance to think about it -
A ) She was delusional, her mind was calling up old 'recordings' of Edwards voice and adding tone and words to it to make her think he still cared;
B ) He was actually with her all along, invisible but there, and she was the only one hearing his voice because he was speaking low enough for only her ears to pick it up,
C ) Something else.

I thought B I guess. I thought he was hiding and would eventually show himself. I couldn't believe that he would actually leave her alone being as obssesive as he was about her. (Yes I thought he was obsessive and protective even before I read Eclipse.)

--x Lauren

When Bella was hearing Edward's voice in NM what did you think was happening when you first read it, not later on when you had a chance to think about it -
A ) She was delusional, her mind was calling up old 'recordings' of Edwards voice and adding tone and words to it to make her think he still cared;
B ) He was actually with her all along, invisible but there, and she was the only one hearing his voice because he was speaking low enough for only her ears to pick it up,
C ) Something else.

Well it looks like I'm going with the popular opinion, I think B like Lauren said
I agree with that. I expected him to snap and show himself and that would be how everything worked out.

What makes Edward's stalking different from real stalkers? Or do you not think it's any different at all?

I don't think it's any different at all, but I do think SM almost tricked the reader into thinking that it wasn't creepy because they were meant to be...

Luv ya!
Jilly

I absolutely LOVE book threads. Yes, I do.

Anyway, I have been waiting and waiting and waiting to be able to post on this kind of thing, especially about The Host, because I don't know anyone who's read it. If anyone has, just tell me, please (I'd go through all the pages, but I am lazy). I'd really like to know that I'm not the only one who thinks that The Host (and Twilight, of couse) is absolutely on of the most amazing, romantic, adventurous books ever. It is my favorite. And I'm obsessed. I want there to be a sequel, but it doesn't need one. Because it was fine the way it ended.

Anywho, bye everybody!

~Angeline (Ann, Annie, whatevs)

Welcome to the thread Ann!! Glad you enjoyed the books!

I just started talking to someone who got into Twilight exactly 2 weeks ago when the movie came out on DVD. She hasn't read a word of the books but went out today and bought all four. I often thought to myself that would I be a fan of the story if I had just seen the movie? So here's my question.

Do you think you would be a fan of the story if all you had to go on was the movie? Do you think the movie captured the essence of the books?

Do you think you would be a fan of the story if all you had to go on was the movie? Do you think the movie captured the essence of the books?

I would still be a fan, but not as much because of who they picked to portray the characters. When I read the books, I pictured Bella and Edward and all the others as I thought they would look, so it was more interesting. Also, I imagined some of the scenes differently. I'd be kind of confused, too.... probably. And to answer the second part of the question, I do think the movie captured a little of the essence of the book, but not enough. In my opinion, and I don't mean to sound like I'm hating, but Rob and Kristen weren't the best people to play Edward and Bella; the rest of the cast was perfect. Otherwise, the movie was great, but I think they could've done a little more.

~Angeline

Do you think you would be a fan of the story if all you had to go on was the movie? Do you think the movie captured the essence of the books?
The movie isn't out on dvd here til tomorrow. My sisters have seen it but I haven't. I've read the books, they haven't. They liked the movie but now want to read the books to know what they've missed. If the books hadn't existed and there was only the movie to go on then I suppose, because of the idea for it, it would be loved. We'd have no idea of what was missing so we couldn't compare. that's what I hate about myself, if I love a book and then see the movie I pick it to shreds. I'm desperate to see the movie but I know I'll do it because the way I pictured everyone isn't who plays them. Without the books I expect they'd be perfect for the role. I'll always be a book person, for me the movies that result from a good book are just a quick fix.

Do you think you would be a fan of the story if all you had to go on was the movie? Do you think the movie captured the essence of the books?

Would I still be a fan? Probably. Would it be on the same level of admiration and interest I have right now? Probably not. I really can't imagine myself not reading them after the hype actually did escalate but if I somehow had missed reading them, I would still be a fan of the movie. The movie really didn't capture the same emotions as the book. It was actually really far off the mark. Elaine said before that visually the movie was on the mark, and that is very true; we still had the same basic storyline: girl and vampire fall in love after she moves in with her divorced dad in rainy Forks. But the feelings weren't there at all. It was what you'd expect out of any other teen romance where they feel they absolutely can not live without each other.

~alyssa

Triad, that is exactly what I do. I pick out all the things that were wrong about it, and what they changed, and what they didn't put in the movie. Had I not read the book, I would have absolutely loved the movie to death. My mom is always getting mad at me because I complain so much. I'm so glad I'm not the only one who does that.

~Angeline

My family hates it when I do that too, especially with the Narnia series. (I'm a massive fan of the old TV version but not so much of the movies because of it). Is anyone glad they didn't cast Bill Nighy as either Aro, Caius or Marcus? I was sure they were going too because he fits the part so well (just look at him in the Underworld series) but I'm really glad they didn't.

My sister doesn't like Kirsten whatever-her-name-is but she enjoyed Twilight. And my other sister really liked Alice, she wants to read the books specifically to find out more about her. I'm hoping someone has the dvd on sale today so I can grab it. It's kinda hard to go see a movie with a baby and half the people I know are never available to look after her for a few hours. I'm hoping that when she's old enough to read she'll love the books as much as I do, but I reckon she'll be watching the movies long before that.

I know this sounds really crass of me, but I think I probably would have only seen the movie of Twilight because Robert Pattinson is in it. I think I said before that I tend to watch a lot of stuff just because HP and good British actors are in them. That said, I think I would have then read the books to see what all the fuss was about, and only then would I have been drawn into the fandom. If this was a stand alone movie I'm not sure that my interest would have gone any further even if a sequel was planned.

I do think they caught some of the essence of the movie, as in the look and pace, but I always feel like one minute Edward hated Bellas guts and then they were in love, they didn't build up the tension enough for me. One of the greatest scenes in the book was the biology class part when they were watching the movie and you could almost feel the electricity building between them because of how it was written. That didn't come across at all in the movie.

I think that my friend read the Twilight series was to see what the fuss was about. I mean, she had been making fun of me for awhile since I was reading such a large, weird, vampiry-romanticy book. But then she goes and reads it. I don't know why, but that bugs me so much.

And I am glad that Bill Nighy wasn't cast as one of those vampires. I pictured them with much less wrinkles and looked a little bit younger. But if they had, I would have been fine with it. What I'm totally not fine with is Dakota Fanning being cast as Jane. No. I don't think she's right at all. I guess she looks right, and she's pretty, but Jane is supposed to be almost as beautiful as Rosalie. They're going to need a lot of make-up for that. Does anyone else agree?

~Angeline

Hi! Annie(I hope I can call you that) Welcome!!!

Yes I've read the host...I loved it too, I thought it was addicting and unpredictable(for the most part)

Do you think you would be a fan of the story if all you had to go on was the movie? Do you think the movie captured the essence of the books

I thought the movie was hysterical...with it a bit too melodramatic and all, but I think I'd have read the book.


Haha Elaine its okay sounds a bit like me(well actually you might not want to be compared to a teenage girl but...it's the best I can give)


I do! Yes I really don't think she's right for the part at all. I think she's just too...well look! blonde and pretty and preppy looking... On that same note does anyone know whose playing Alec...or maybe that should go in the Movie thread

Luv ya
Jilly

I bought the books to see what the fuss was about. I didn't understand how a book about Vamps was so great. I'm glad I bought them though, I'm reading them for the third time now. I just can't see to get enough.

New question:

What would you have done if you were in Bella's shoes and being told by your boyfriend that you couldn't go see a friend, that he forbade it?
This is something in the books I hated. If I were Bella I would have kicked up a massive fit. I don't like being told what to do at all and to be told I wasn't allowed to see someone would have set me off. My Mum tried to do that to me back in grade 5, she thought one of my friends (named Tara, ) was a bad influence. Even back then I hated being told who I could be friends with and I hung out with her everyday. I would have liked it if she fought more for it, threatened him even. but she pretty much just laid down and let him walk all over her.

Just popping in here to get something of my chest. I used to be a huge Twilight fan. But now after re-reading the books many times, I've come to resent them a little. Bella is a Mary-Sue character (it is also easy to see that Stephenie Meyer portraits herself in The Host) and though I used to be Team Edward, I know think that Bella should have chosen Jacob. He is so much nicer than Edward and he actually puts Bella first. He is so much better for her!

You don't have to scream at me, I just wanted to say that I have changed my mind

//Louise

I completely agree. I no longer like Edward for the same reason you said. Jacob is definitely nicer, and would actually let Bella do something for herself, unlike Edward, who is way over-protective. If a guy tried to take over my life, I wouldn't be happy (and I really have no idea how Bella did it).

I used to be a huge Twilight fan. But now after re-reading the books many times, I've come to resent them a little. Bella is a Mary-Sue character (it is also easy to see that Stephenie Meyer portraits herself in The Host) and though I used to be Team Edward, I know think that Bella should have chosen Jacob. He is so much nicer than Edward and he actually puts Bella first. He is so much better for her!

I agree too! It actually wasn't until about two or three months ago that I realized how truly annoying Bella is. The Twilight saga used to be the only thing I could talk about, but now I can see what people are complaining about. I'm not going to go so far as to say Jacob should've been with her, but I was rooting for Jacob to go out with her and kiss her during New Moon. Sure his tactics could been a million times better, but he's a teenage boy for goodness sake.

You have absolutely nothing to be ashamed about, Louise. I feel the same way too.

~alyssa~

Gone to see them anyway...tell him if he doesn't like my friends he can just leave


I agree, she really gets under my skin

Luv ya
Jilly

What would you have done if you were in Bella's shoes and being told by your boyfriend that you couldn't go see a friend, that he forbade it?

So here's the conundrum. Bella is happily involved in a relationship with a 108 year old Vampire who is 'very protective of her'. A fact that she was entirley happy with until he dumped her in the forest in New Moon. Along come her BFF Jacob Black, and let's face it, they had a flirty thing going on back in the early days (even though she says it was just to get info out of him, I think she liked that it worked) and he's there for her when the Vamps leave Forks.

So to the point. Although she loved the idea of Edward being over protective, the reality actually sucks. She likes the attention she gets from Jacob (she's a teenager after all despite the difference in species) so when Edward pulls the 'Oh no he's dangerous, you can't be friends with him line', she's going to rebel like any normal teen would.

However, they are both dangerous creatures and if I were in here shoes, I'd probably think well they are both as scary as each other and I'd makes sure I spelled that out to Edward. I think he sort of forgot that he was just as dangerous to Bella along the way...I think!



Actually I have to disagree there. Edward always did what he thought was best for Bella, even if it was wrong. He stayed away from her in the beginning, he left her, and a few other things, but then by his own admission he said he was a selfish creature and wanted to be with her. But at least she knew this.

Jacob on the other hand always put himself first. He wanted her and nothing was going to stop him. He never once thought that he would be a danger to her at least Edward realised this much, Jacob never did. All he could see was getting what he wanted and a set of puppies into the bargain.

I agree. Jacob kept saying he was in control, and I'll bet Sam thought the same thing and look what happened to Emily. You'd think that'd be a wake up call to Jacob that he is in fact dangerous. Yes Edward can crush Bella if he loses concentration, but Jacob can maim Bella just by getting angry. Edward keeps himself in check as much as possible. Considering he's been a Vamp for (was it really 108years?) ages he'd know what he can and can't do. Jacob's like a teen whose just gotten his licence, he thinks he's in control all the time when he obviously isn't. Give him a hundred years to control himself and yeah, then he might be better for her but by then it'd be too late, even without the imprinting fiasco.

Also, Bella doesn't want to be a small town girl. If she went with Jake she would be because I seriously doubt he'd want to leave his people, especially now that he knows what's really lurking in the dark. At least with Edward she has to move around so she can go anywhere she wants! Well....cloudy places at least.

New Question (because I'm bored )

Why do you think that Nahuel (the immortal human) stopped aging when he hit adulthood? Do you think he is aging but at an incredibly slow rate? Or something else entirely?
This question bugged me from the moment I read his story. For me, if something lives, as in with a pulse, then they can't be immortal because eventually the body will give out. There has got to be a time when the heart dies right? So what then? Does the venom take over completely and solidify their skin and make them full Vamp or does the aging process speed up and they die soon after? It might take hundreds of years for this to happen since the venom seems to grant them healing abilities of a sort but it eventually has to happen.

The whole story confuses me because there are so many holes. Why make the Vamps skin like marble if you're going to turn around and add in half-vamps who can grow? I don't get it. I feel like she's just thrown in Nahuel to justify Renesmee. Unless I'm missing something. I just read his story again and couldn't find anything. Maybe I'm looking too far into it, I have a habit of doing that. But it's annoying because of the holes. I don't like holes. Maybe she'll do a JK and give us some info every now and then.

Why do you think that Nahuel (the immortal human) stopped aging when he hit adulthood? Do you think he is aging but at an incredibly slow rate? Or something else entirely?

I think that although he is half human, the vampire gene is predominant once they hit maturity and as a result the aging prcess stops. With Renesmee the growth gene is accelerated in her formative years so that she is expected to reach her full growth by the age of 7. I suspect that like humans, she will continue to develop in some ways until early adulthood, somewhere around 18 and then that's when the vampire takes over and she stops, frozen in time. However, like you Tahra I just think Nahuel was a good plot device to justify Renesmees existence.

Why do you think that Nahuel (the immortal human) stopped aging when he hit adulthood? Do you think he is aging but at an incredibly slow rate? Or something else entirely?

This is a good question! I don't think that he ever actually stopped aging, that he is just growing at an insanely slow rate. My reasoning is that Renesmee slowed her growth every day even if it was just a little. So Nahuel may never grow enough to look older than twenty or twenty- one, and certain parts of him may have stopped aging.

~alyssa~

I have to agree with Elaine on this one...when did Jacob ever put Bella first? I see Jacob as a character who does very little to deserve the love of the reader but most of us love him anyway

Why do you think that Nahuel (the immortal human) stopped aging when he hit adulthood? Do you think he is aging but at an incredibly slow rate? Or something else entirely?

Aw gosh, never really thought about this one
I'm like the total opposite, I didn;t even realize this problem until now, but not that I see it I'm going to have to go for that he does age but really slowly...they do have blood and a beating heart so they can't be immortal, but in my opinion the immortal way makes for a better story

Ooo actually...I like this answer better



perfect!

Luv ya!
Jilly

Why do you think that Nahuel (the immortal human) stopped aging when he hit adulthood? Do you think he is aging but at an incredibly slow rate? Or something else entirely?

I think he's still aging, but at an incredibly slow raste, seeing as he is half-human and half-vampire (right? it's been a while). This may have happened because his body finally got used to his rapid aging and found a way to slow it down. I agree with hot-for-harry about Renesmee's slowing aging, which may just happen because seeing as she was just born, her body might've not been mature enough yet.

I don't know, really. Everyone's answers were really good.

~Angeline

Why do you think that Nahuel (the immortal human) stopped aging when he hit adulthood? Do you think he is aging but at an incredibly slow rate? Or something else entirely?

Hmm, haven't really thought about that. Well, I think he still might be growing, but at a super, super slow rate. And seeing that he is half-human and half-vampire, he would still probably grow, considering the half-human part of him, but at a very slow rate. But, I don't know, that is just my opinion and as Stephenie Meyer has never made it clear as to if he is still growing or not, I have no idea.

~jenny

I'm thinking that a new question is needed.

How do you think the Twilight series compares to other vampire novels written that you may have read?

I have my own opinion on this but will take what others say into consideration before I give my point of view.

How do you think the Twilight series compares to other vampire novels written that you may have read?
I have never read any other Vampire books.....I mean, I've read books that Vampires are in but they're only a minor part. But if I had read them I think that Meyers Vamps would still be my favourite because of what they can do. There's none of the garlic and only coming out at night rubbish that I hate about other stories.

Ok, not to be rude to the families who have lost a loved one to this 'swine flu' but did anyone else think, when they heard that 150 people in Mexico had died because of it, that Vampires were behind it? I did. It just seems likely because of Jasper's story. Humans writing off the large amount of deaths as a virus. I know it's a serious thing this flu but once you get past the horror of it it does have a Twilight feel.

How do you think the Twilight series compares to other vampire novels written that you may have read?

Twilight is different from most vampire books I've read, but there are always a few similarities. One is, of course, the fact that they need blood, and they can kind of come out in sunlight. But there are also a few differences. In a few I've read, the people don't even know they're vampires, and in others people can be born as vampires without dying. I must say that Twilight is overall different than most vampire stories, because they aren't afraid of garlic or holy water (which, in my opinion, is hilarious, because it's silly).

And about the swine flu thing, now that I think about it, it does. I mean it really does make sense. That may sound silly, but it wouldn't surprise me a bit if it did turn out to be vampires , which would be awesome (becuase they might be extremely hot!), but also very, very bad. Another reason this could be true is because the vamps would have to move around a lot in order for it to seem like a flu.... hmmm....

~Angeline

Oh yeah, the vampires are definitely behind the Swine Flu....

As to my own question. I'm a bit of a sucker, excuse the pun, for the vampire genre and love nothing more than to sink my teeth into a good yarn.

Twilight is a hard one to compare really seeing as the target audience are young adults. All the other series I have read are adult based and as such a lot racier. You'd be surprised how much passion is envoked just by using colourful language. For its audience, I'd say it stands alone really because Meyer chose to make her vampire day walkers. But she's not alone in making her species inhumanly beautiful to others and making the whole garlic/crucifix thing a bunch of hokum, a lot of authors do that.

If I had to choose between all the vamp books I have read, Twilight is number one for its target market, but sadly is a poor relation when I compare it to the more adult themed books I have read, but that's understandable.

How do you think the Twilight series compares to other vampire novels written that you may have read?

The only other vampire book I have read before was Dracula by Bram Stoker. But I don't feel like it's fair to compare them because Twilight is primarily a love story. Dracula is the telling of the works that a vampire did. The objectives that each story is trying to meet are completely different. In one story, vampires have to be explained, and are the typical vampires. In Twilight, she redefines what a vampire is. It's hard to compare something that is extremely different.

Another question to get this thread going...

Do you think the books would have the same appeal if the vampires were what they typically are? Long, black capes, burned by the sun, sleep in coffins?

I'll have to think on that and come back.

~alyssa~

Do you think the books would have the same appeal if the vampires were what they typically are? Long, black capes, burned by the sun, sleep in coffins?

Very good question! Some of you may disagree, but I say they would absolutely not have the same appeal if they were the typical vampires. The people who like them would definitely not like the books if they weren't hot and mysterious like they are in Twilight. The adorable vamps are at least half the reason why it's so popular with young adults. Most people I know aren't exactly interested in reading books about vampires who dress in long black capes, sleep in coffins, and drink blood from humans whenever they can. (I still would've read the books, though . )

~Angeline

Do you think the books would have the same appeal if the vampires were what they typically are? Long, black capes, burned by the sun, sleep in coffins?

Actually, the books wouldn't have even worked because Edward would've sucked her blood that first time he saw her. End of love story. But if he had somehow resisted, I still don't think it would've had the same appeal. Plus, the sparkling vampires have been a big hit, and people are forever going to remember the sparkling meadow scene, not the burning meadow scene. I mean, they even have t-shirts that say 'I like men that sparkle'. I definitely don't think the books would be as big if there were by-the-book vampires.

I'll come back with another question later.

~alyssa~

But romance threads itself through Bram Stokers novel too. Dracula pines for his lost love too. Yeah he's a nasty piece of work, something to be feared but he loves passionately too. That's a common theme with the entire vampire genre, that they are great lovers. All lore seems to have a sexual reference to it. Even Meyer had a sexual tension in her books and by Breaking Dawn this is explained further by the passion the couple have for each other.

Do you think the books would have the same appeal if the vampires were what they typically are? Long, black capes, burned by the sun, sleep in coffins?

It rather depends on what parts she changed. I doubt if the sleeping in coffins would have made an appearance, most modern stories sgree that vampires have discovered a bed is more comfy

Actually, if she made them night walkers instead of day, then Edward and Bella would never have met at school since he wouldn't have been able to go. Doctor Cullen would have only been able to do the night shift and that would have held him back professionally speaking

I suppose Edward could have seen her from a distance then stalked her at night, sneaking into her room etc...oh wait, he did do that!

There are too many things that wouldn't work in Meyers world for the vampires to be traditional. She wrote them the way she did to fit her plot.

I know this question has already been discussed, but I was listening to BD today while I was at work and it came to the part where Jacob and Leah were talking about the reason the werewolves imprint. So, I'm gonna share my opinions on this;

Do you think Renesmee can have children?

I say yes, because while Jake and Leah were discussing the reasons behind imprinting, they said it was to carry on the bloodline. They imprint with the people that will most likely help them pass on the wolf gene. So Jacob wouldn't have imprinted with her if she were incapable of having children.

Which lead me to another question!

What do you think some of the characteristics of a werewolf/vampire/human would be? What kind of things would it be able to do that werewolves, vampires and humans can't do?

~Dayna

Clever! I never thought of it like that!


Ok, the first thing that came to mind was Dash from The Incredibles. He was really fast so his parents told him to ease off in order for him to compete in races. So, considering both Wolf and Vamp are incredibly fast I reckon the hybrid would be too. And strong so they'd have to keep that in check. I don't believe that it would be as fast and strong as the people it came from but that's only because most things skip generations or disappear altogether. I don't know if that would be the case with this scenario but in a normal one it could happen. But another thing with genetics is that soemthing is always greater then the other. So a brown eyed person and a blue eyed person would most likely have a brown eyed child because brown is (usually) more dominant. So which of the races would be more dominant in the hybrid child? I would probably say Wolf because Jacob is full Wolf whereas Renesmee is only a half and half.

As a personality trait I'm going to say arrogant. Imagine this child, being brought up in an immortal household, a Wolf father and a Vamp/Human mother with the grandparents, and great grandparents of all three races. This child is going to believe, unless they keep a tight leash (not referring to the Wolf part). The Rules would be explained to it but like most children and teenagers they would seek to toe the line, to see how much they could get away with.

I think she will be able to have have kids- !) jake could imprint and 2) the werewolves can breed and doesn't carlisle say something about her chromosomes match a werewolves..?

any way on page 152 of breaking dawn- I have a UK version- Jacob and quil are talking and Jake calls quil a name... he says "you're such a pasty"
er- is that an american insult, i really dont get it :S lol

and what's witht his swine flu thing- that is the most rediculous thing i have heard... at least since i was int he loos after watching twilight at the cinema, and somegirl says- "oh i love these two bands that sing for the credits.' her friends asks who they are and she replies- 'oh paramore, they sang misery bussiness a while ago and then linkin park- they are a really cool new band."
new band!!!!! shocking and shameful

Do you think Renesmee can have children?

I think that before when this question was asked, I said no, but you guys (well, girls, but you get what I'm saying) came up with good points that are backed by the book. You all are so well educated in the book's content, I think I would be hilarious for you guys to have a book discussion and Q&A session with SM and trip her up all the time. I can only imagine...

What do you think some of the characteristics of a werewolf/vampire/human would be? What kind of things would it be able to do that werewolves, vampires and humans can't do?

They'd be really fast because two out of the three breeds it comes from are able to move really fast. It would also age really fast because vampire/human children age really fast, and werewolves start to age really fast once they hit a certain point in their lives.The kid would also probably be able to eat both human food and blood. I don't think it would have its own unique special ability, but rather it would be able to hear thoughts, because that is considered a special ability by vamps and werewolves can hear each other thoughts when they're in form. I'm not really sure what it would have as its own very original werewolf/vampire/human trait though. That's tough!

And rach2603...



Well, Jake actually calls him a patsy. You just got the t and s mixed up. Anyway, the only thing I could come up with for that name was Jake calling Quil a pawn. Like he was being Claire's little assistant that she could boss around, and he would do it all.

We are in desperate need of a new question!

So we came to the conclusion that werewolves could have children with vampire/humans, but could vampires or werewolves have children with just each other?

~alyssa~

haha- thats a typo- I know it says patsy not 'pasty'
I reread that bit and i take as an insult like calling someone a girl!
lol

So we came to the conclusion that werewolves could have children with vampire/humans, but could vampires or werewolves have children with just each other?

This is a very good question, and I can see that I'm late in joining the thread, haha.
I don't think werewolves and vampires could have children. My first (and only, without looking at the books for evidence) reason is that, considering the prejudices that have been handed down over the ages, I don't think they would want to. Of course, with the Renesmee/Jacob thing, werewolves and vampires have become tolerant of each other, but I don't think that would give them enough reason to mate.

So we came to the conclusion that werewolves could have children with vampire/humans, but could vampires or werewolves have children with just each other?


I really don't think so. For one thing, like still_hhr_fan said, they would never want to. Another, vampire venom is deadly to werewolves, and while there may not be an affect on a human from the exchanging of saliva/vamp venom (kissing). There is a good chance that even that act could be dangerous for a werewolf. But they would never want to get close enough to each other for that because of the smell.

And... A vamp woman would still not be able to concieve a child even if she were to fall in love with a werewolf because her body can not change with a growing child. So it would have to be a female werewolf and a male vampire, and the only female werewolf is Leah and well... There's no way she would ever choose a vampire as a lover. She hates everything to do with them. Althought that might make an interesting fanfiction... Leah imprints with a vampire...

~Dayna

I chose new moon because it was the book about bella and jacob. Obviously im on team jacob, the book was just soooo emotional, and gave a lot of info on jacob's life. It's like the harry potter saying don't read 7 b4 u read 6. This one is don't read eclipse or breaking dawn b4 you read new moon. i love the quotes from this book

some of my favs:

"Who would want to ride a motorcycle here? It would be like taking a sixty-mile-per-hour bath."

"I was beginning to get annoyed with myself. I might as well have been packed in Styrofoam peanuts through the last semester."

"They’re just cliff diving, Bella. Recreation. La Push doesn’t have a mall, you know."

"You really, honestly don’t mind that I morph into a giant dog?"

hey everyone, so i pretty much love the Twilight series, and also The Host.. and reading hermionegrangerismyhero's post, and it got me thinking, and now im just curious,

what are your favourite quotes from your favourite Stephanie Meyer book? and why?

I found this article about how Twilight author Stephanie Meyer is being sued for plaigerism. I wanted to give the Twilight supporters a chance to voice there opinion. I have also posted the same article in the Twilight Venom thread so that two different points of view are presented.

What do you guys think about all of this?

Have Fun.

nevillesgirl - I would have to read the other book before I make a judgement call. It could just be a scam to get money or maybe Stephenie Meyer really did plagiarize. To be honest I wouldn't want to think of her that way, but sometimes the truth isn't the best thing to hear. I do think it's a bit silly that the other author is upset that (That was just a Breaking Dawn spoiler there). I still feel like I have to put up a spoiler tag all the time... What do you guys think?

I'm slowly making my way through BD again and once sentence Jacob says ticks me off.
This bugged me because it was exactly how he behaved when Bella started seeing Edward. I don't know if Meyer wrote it deliberately to show that he'd forgotten it or he figured he was exempt from it because it was one species against the other in his case but for this time it was the same species doing it. I'm never going to like Jacob, I try not to read his parts unless it's necessary.

I haven't posted about Twilight in forever! After a casual read of the series which I didn't rush through unlike my first read I decided my favorite book in the series is New Moon. The ending is absolutely amazing, before it was definitely my least favorite in the series (for obvious reasons) but now I simply love it!

Yesterday I got the New Moon calender at Borders, I like it but I liked the Twilight calender more because there was less Jacob pictures but he looks pretty good in the pictures I must admit.

WOW. It has been forever since I've posted here. Who remembers me being an active Twilight post-er? Anyway, let me answer some questions:

So we came to the conclusion that werewolves could have children with vampire/humans, but could vampires or werewolves have children with just each other?

This would probably be the biggest contradicition of life. 'Nuff said. No seriously, someone made a point. Since they don't like eachother what makes you think that they'll agree to have kids? And if they did, it would be hard for the half warm-wolf , half cold-vampy to fit in this mythical world, let alone human world. Why put the kid through that? I think the only exception is renesmee and Jacob. JJUST BECAUSE.

And, I know what you mean HJG. I don't like the New Moon calender. Twilight had better pictures.