Regulus Black was a tragic hero that doesn't seem to get the respect that is his due. He stood up against LV and stole the first Horucrux. Even if I am the only one who wishes well wishes for him(Hopfully I'm not), I think at least Kreacher would be happy that I'm doing this. I for one would like to talk about what he was like. Was he funny or serious? Why had this late Slytherin seeker wished to destroy LV after deducating his life to him? So if you feel as I do, that Regulus Black is just total awesome, than join this club and add R.A.B.F.C. to your signature.
Thank you for reading this.

Well you aren't alone, although very little is known about Regulus, there are some redeeming qualities about him. Was he funny or serious? Why had this late Slytherin seeker wished to destroy LV after dedicating his life to him?

I believe that he took everything seriously...to a point. Of course he was the complete opposite of his brother and wanted to prove to his parents that he was a true Black. However, his regular kindness to Kreacher and his desire to destroy Voldemort probably stemed from his desire to do something that would truly be worth it. Perhaps Voldy mistreated him, or maybe he decided that after what he did to Kreacher, he didn't want to be a part of helping him become more powerful.

Good topic!
-Karina

Aira I agree there was a lot more to Regulus Arcturus Black than the snivelling pure-blood elitist that Jo depicted. I have a particular soft spot for the Black brothers and I think it's a real shame they never knew the other for what they really were. I'm planning a fanfic about him actually. It will be interesting to see what we can bring to light about him through this fan club.

Was he funny or serious? Why had this late Slytherin seeker wished to destroy LV after dedicating his life to him?
Regulus showed compassion beyond anything Voldemort would have expected. Of course, Voldemort himself didn't know or understand compassion so to him using a house elf was as easy as breathing is to a normal person. Regulus's house elf was too important to him in the end. Regulus may have sympethised with some of Voldemort's ideals but when it came down to it he wasn't a deatheater at heart; he cared too much.

A fan club for Regulus?! Eep! I'm estatic! I can't wait to join!

Was he funny or serious? Why had this late Slytherin seeker wished to destroy LV after dedicating his life to him?

I agree with Veritaserum14: Regulus took everything seriously, to a point, of course. I think that he wished to destroy the Dark Lord because he realized just how far the Dark Lord was willing to go to destroy all Muggles and Muggleborns. Regulus most likely had a friend who was Muggleborn..... maybe even the Gryffindor Mudblood Lily Evans? She was only one year ahead of him, after all.

Sorry just something that got me thinking:

Which house might Regulus have gone into if he had not been brought up on a diet of pure-blood elitism?

It seems to me that Regulus only went into Slytherin because of family ties and the ideals he had had drummed into him as a child. What if he had been left to make up his own mind? Afterall, he did turn against Voldemort.

That's an interesting thought. I imagine that if he wasn't in Slytherin, he would be in the same house as Sirius. But I wouldn't be suprised if he would've ended up as a Ravenclaw, he could have very well been intelligent. He was close to LV, and perhaps valuable like LV thought Snape was, who had been quite smart. But I don't think he could have been a Hufflepuff. Even if he wasn't naturally a "pure-blood elitest", he didn't have the same heart that is found in a Hufflepuff. Even Sirius, a Gryffindor, had a hard-heart that I assume he inherited from the Black lineage.

I like your thoughts there, Aira.
It is possible he would have gone into the same house as Sirius. It interests me to think that as Slytherin seeker, he would at some point have played against James Potter who was Gryffindor chaser and also captain of the Gryffindor Quidditch team at some point.

Which house might Regulus have gone into if he had not been brought up on a diet of pure-blood elitism?

That is a very good question. Hmm, let's see we could definately rule out Slytherin. He probably would have been in Gryffindor as you guys have said. Simply because I've always thought that he maybe secretly admired his brother Sirius for being different...for being the "black sheep" of the Black family. But if he wasn't in Gryffindor then that would only leave Ravenclaw, since he doesn't seem the type of person that the hat would have considered "Hufflepuff material" no offense Huffies, we love you. So yeah probably Gryffindor or Ravenclaw.

-Karina

Which House might Regulus have gone into if he had not been brought up on a diet of pure-blood elitism?

Regs never seemed to me like someone who would openly defy everyone on a tiny whim like his brother. Regulus was more quiet, reserved, and even though I hate to say anything bad about him, easily influenced. Regulus most certainly wouldn't fit into Slytherin, because of how he hadn't been raised on the pureblood elitism, and Gryffindor wouldn't suit him because of how he liked to fade into the backround. Hufflepuff wouldn't be good for him, just because he was reserved, like I said before, and because of that most likely not very good at making friends. So that leaves us with Ravenclaw. A quiet, reserved book-lover, Regulus would have fit right in.

Even with the pureblood-obsessed parents, I really think that the Sorting Hat wanted to put Regulus in Ravenclaw, but seeing as he was so eager to be in Slytherin, just to please his parents, he convinced the Hat to put him in his ancestors' House.

Hey guys I have a question up for discussion. What do you think that Kreacher liked the most about Regulus? Why was Regulus so nice to him and what made him Kreacher's favorite?

What do you think? I guess that Kreacher really admired Reg as a hero after what he did, when he sent him on that mission to switch the lockets. I'll add more to my answer later. Can't wait to see what your thoughts are on this.

Later,
-K

I agree, I think Regulus was always kind to him, and saved him from being eaten by Inferi. This is extraordinary behaviour for a pureblood wizard. Just look at Lucius' treament of Dobby? He had him punishing himself for every mistake. But Regulus was kind of an odd one out in the Blacks, like Sirius. I think he doesn't get the credit from JKR and readers that he should, he inspires Kreacher to let the little house elf look up to his master and actually honour him!

What do you think that Kreacher liked the most about Regulus? Why was Regulus so nice to him and what made him Kreacher's favorite?

I think it was the fact that Regulus never lashed out at Kreacher. We heard from Dobby in Chamber of Secrets that during the time Regulus was alive, most house-elves were treated like dirt. So if Regulus was kind to Kreacher during these times, it would've won Kreacher's undying love and devotion. Why was Regulus nice to him? I suppose it's just because Regulus realized where the Black family would be without house-elves to take care of cooking, cleaning, etc. After all, housework is never noticed until it is not done.

Sister:
This is true. I believe that Regulus appreciated what Kreacher did. Not to mention the fact that 'you can catch more flies with honey than with vinegar'. So, by being nice to him, even if he didn't mean to...he ensured that Kreacher would give him his undying loyalty and devotion. He knew that Kreacher really enjoyed what he did. It was pretty obvious how much he loved the Black family (except maybe Sirius ).

Ok so, new question: What was Regulus Arcturus Black's most redeeming quality? His maybe not-so-redeeming one? What are your thoughts on this?

-Karina

VTM has died - this thread included.

What was Regulus Arcturus Black's most redeeming quality? His maybe not-so-redeeming one?

I think Reggie's most redeeming quality was how he was so loyal. During his years at school, he was so loyal to his family and their beliefs, even if he didn't believe in them. Then, once he got out of school, he was very loyal to the Dark Lord, even though we know he didn't agree with the Dark Lord's beliefs. And then, he was loyal to Kreachure and to his own resolve to get the Horcrux away from Voldemort.

Regulus was a loyal man through and through. I love him for it.

Sister: It certainly does seem that way doesn't it?

What was Regulus Arcturus Black's most redeeming quality? His maybe not-so-redeeming one?

Yes, I agree; there can be no doubt that he was a very loyal person. This is his most redeeming quality indeed. Regulus, as you said Sister was loyal to his family and their beliefs and to Voldy and his beliefs and he was kind to and appreciative of Kreacher. But I think that his loyalty might also not have been such a good thing, being loyal didn't really give him a chance to have his own opinions. However he did switch the locket and he did vow to destroy it, so that matter may be arguable. I don't know I guess that his loyalty would be both a redeeming and maybe not-so-redeeming characteristic.

-Karina

*hits head with keyboard* That was totally stupid of me. *hits head with keyboard again*

I'll redeem that right now. I forgot the "What is Regulus's not-so-redeeming quality" part of the question. So:

What was Regulus Arcturus Black's most not-so-redeeming quality?

He does seem to be easliy influenced, as I stated seven posts again. I think that was how he got pulled into the whole pureblood thing, there were more people for that than against that around Regs. He did grow out of it, but by the time he did, it was mostly too late.

And now, allow me to propose a new question to (hopefully) get the conversation going again!

Do you think that Regulus would have turned against the Dark Lord if he hadn't had his brother's influence? Granted, it did take awhile to take root, but it was still there. Explain why or why not.

Do you think that Regulus would have turned against the Dark Lord if he hadn't had his brother's influence? Granted, it did take awhile to take root, but it was still there. Explain why or why not.

I think so. He never really did seem like he was really into the whole thing in the first place. I think mostly he just joined Voldemort to please his parents because he was so easily influenced by their Pure Blood way of life. And accepting Voldy's ideas and being a Death Eater seemed like the best way to make his parents notice him. I think he was jealous of Sirius because he could be a rebel without caring about the opinion of their parents. But Regs was a good person, so I think that yeah he would have turned against the Dark Lord.

I'm not sure how much sense that all made but I hope my answer was understandable in there somewhere. Sorry for being away for so long.

Karina

Do you think that Regulus would have turned against the Dark Lord if he hadn't had his brother's influence? Granted, it did take awhile to take root, but it was still there. Explain why or why not.

It never seemed to me as if the reasons Regulus had for turning against Voldemort were because of Sirius. On the contrary, his reason, as stated in the books, was the mistreatment of Kreacher at the hands of Voldemort. Sirius detested Kreacher and while he wouldn't have wanted to torture the house-elf, he did not have the same bond to Kreacher as his younger brother did.
Therefore I think it's fair to say that Regulus acted without his brother's influence. He didn't let Sirius influence him over their years growing up together so I also don't see how he would have let Sirius intervene here.

I can only conclude that Regulus (like Snape) was wrongly Sorted and it was his fault. We know that the Hat takes into consideration the wearer's preference so although Regulus had all the qualities of a true Grifindor he was sorted in Slytherin because he wished it as to honour his family.
I also think that Regulus was high in the rank of the Death Eaters, otherwise Vold wouldn't ask him to offer his elf. Moreover, Regulus found out about the Horcruxe on his own, Kreacher didn't tell him, and that also proves that he must have been very close to the Dark Lord in order to learn such a secret. Come to think of it, he was the only one who knew about the horcrux. Not even Bellatrix knew. She was entrusted with a horcruxe but she didn't really know what it was. She only knew that the cup of Hufflepuf was invaluable to Voldemort.
To sum up, Regulus was very smart and skilled otherwise Voldemort wouldn't place him among the circle of his most trusted Death Eaters. Actually, he must have been a very skilled wizard because he was able to get the Horcruxe. Apart from him only DD and of course HP were able to locate and acquire the damned things. What's more, he was very brave because he stood up to Voldemort when he knew that this meant death. Deep down he was a Grifindor like Sirius and maybe he respected his brother's rebellion but I don't think he ever got to tell him. He must have been a gentle person from what his treatment of Kreacher shows because we know that wizards don't have to be nice to elves in order for them to obey, but he was.
His most redeeming quality was his compassion to others. At least that's why I think he abandoned the ranks of the Death Eaters. He could no longer pretend he was a cruel man and he was smart enough to know that the end doesn't justify the means.

I've been gone for quite a while, but I'm back. Linux felicis, you summed that up quite nicely.

I have a question, do you think Regulus was as talented in Occlomomency (sp?) as Snape? If he wasn't, why wouldn't Voldy have been able to see through him, and, in turn, his plans to turn against him?

Sorry for the long absence but I've been away on holiday.
Aira, I don't think it was a matter of Occlumency. When a wizard uses Occlumency, he actually protects his memories from being retrieved by an outsider. When Harry practised with Snape they saw eachother's memories and generally things from the past, not future aspirations or thoughts and wishes.If the dark lord was blocked out from somebody's mind when he wanted to enter it, he would surely conclude that it's because that somebody is trying to hide something so this would not be good by itself. I think neither Snape nor Regulus used Occlumency but on the contrary, created false images of loyalty in their minds like the one Vold sent in Harry's mind in order to lure him and get the prophesy.
As for comparing Regulus to Snape, I don't think they can be compared... Just by surviving while fooling the dark lord for so long, proves that Snape is by far a more talented wizard. I never understood while Regulus didn't instruct Kreacher to apparate with him when he got the horcruxe. There was no reason for him to stay there and get drowned by the inferi. Maybe he, like Voldemort, was unaware of the capabilities of seemingly inferior creatures so it served him right.

I have a question, do you think Regulus was as talented in Occlomomency (sp?) as Snape? If he wasn't, why wouldn't Voldy have been able to see through him, and, in turn, his plans to turn against him?

Well, if Regulus wasn't as talented in Occulmency (sp?) as Severus, I'm assuming that the Dark Lord just didn't check. Remember, he may be brilliant, but he's overconfident. He has his Horcruxes, and he's hidden them safely away. He's unstoppable, immortal. Overconfidence was his first downfall when he couldn't kill Harry the first time, and overconfidence was his last downfall when he believed no one would figure out his Horcruxes.

So that's that, and no harm done, to quote someone in one of the HP movies. Remus, I think .....

Cheers,
Ty
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Do you think Regulus was as talented in Occlumency as Snape? If he wasn't, why wouldn't Voldy have been able to see through him, and, in turn, his plans to turn against him?

I doubt Regulus was as good as Snape. I think the reason he got away with his plan was because he had little or no direct contact with Voldemort after the time Kreacher was used in Voldemort's experiment. I also think Regulus would have avoided contact with Voldemort after that time.

I’m sorry I have been gone for such a long time. I haven’t had a chance to do very much on VTM. Well I will try to answer this question now.

Do you think Regulus was as talented in Occlumency as Snape? If he wasn't, why wouldn't Voldy have been able to see through him, and, in turn, his plans to turn against him?

Linux Felicis, I do see how one would think that Occlumency is more about hiding memories; but, what about in HBP when Draco uses it to hide his thoughts and plans from Snape? I wouldn't say his plans are future-related, but some of his thoughts wouldn't be memories, if they hadn't happened yet. Snape also teases Draco about knowing how to use Occlumency; and Snape used it against Voldy countless times as well, to keep certain knowledge out of the Dark Lord's grasp. He used false leads and built walls around what he knew so Voldy couldn't get to it with Legilimency.

Regs might have been just as good at hiding his thoughts as Lord Voldemort was at reading them. He could have been able to keep his plans totally hidden in his head until it was too late for Voldy to know. Perhaps the Dark Lord did know that Regulus was deserting him? Although, he didn’t know about the locket switch, but then he must have figured it out eventually because otherwise why else would he have killed Regulus?

I think, though, that Reggie could have used some Occlumency in the making of his plans, to keep the details of his “betrayal” a secret. I don’t really know, like Linux Felicis said, how much of a role Occlumency could have palyed in the whole thing, but I guess it is possible that Regulus had some talent as an Occlumens.

-Karina

This is my first post here, so Hi!
Do you think Regulus was as talented in Occlumency as Snape? If he wasn't, why wouldn't Voldy have been able to see through him, and, in turn, his plans to turn against him?
I agree, I think once Regulus found out about him using Kreacher that he stayed away from him as much as he could without it being suspicious.

And I want to point something out here:


I may be wrong, but when Regulus brought Kreacher along with him to find and destroy the Horcrux, He drank the potion, got the locket, and left it up to Kreacher to replace the real locket with the fake. He had told Kreacher to leave him after he had drunken the potion. And Kreacher did so, not being able to disobey his master, and let Regulus be pulled into the Inferi(spelling?). So Lord Voldemort did not kill Regulus, well in a sense I guess you could say he did, but not personally.
-Cassie