Weaxzezz
Mar 26 2009, 09:30 PM
I just saw the new pictures for the up-coming film, and it dissapoints me a little... If we look at how the movies have evovled you really see a trend of the clothes growing less and less 'wizardy'. Now I see Draco Malfoy in a suit? I mean, seriously, the pure-blood death eater in A SUIT? I can understand that the Weasleys and Granger and those people wear muggle clothes, but seriously...
And I really don't like how Dumbledore is portrayed in the latest films either, he's all mean and stuff, not at all like I've imagined.
No, I think the movies are pretty much a big failure, it just gets worse and worse as they go. I'm actually considering not to see the next one at all.
What do you think?
Nola
Mar 26 2009, 10:20 PM
Yea, I've noticed also that a lot of the movies are becoming more and more of a fashion show. Movies are definitely taking on a more Hollywood vibe and it's kind of interesting. I mean even after awhile you will find (in the books) that most of the characters are constantly in wizarding robes. But what you expect. Gotta be Glamorized some how right? Damn the Hollywood folks!
Weaxzezz
Mar 27 2009, 08:30 AM
Not to blame her or anything, it's not at all her fault, but I would have liked it if JKR would have been more involved in the film making. Then there'd be no argue over anything, it'd all be as she imagined it to be.
And I really think they should have done one other thing; waited 'til all the books had come out, and THEN start with the movies. But of course, they wanted money

If they would have had one director working close with JKR all through the making of the films, I think we would have better films. Less money making and more quality. Just look at the way the LOTR movies were made; they took time planning, trying to make it genuine, and voila, HUGE success.
Now the plot is mixed up, the visual parts are mixed up, and the movies have become just films like all other blockbusters, really losing the essence of the story.
smelliarmus
Mar 27 2009, 05:32 PM
I noticed this aswell. In the 5th book, just before Seamus has a go at harry you can hear muggle music in the background. weird
Weaxzezz
Mar 28 2009, 09:49 AM
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I noticed this aswell. In the 5th book, just before Seamus has a go at harry you can hear muggle music in the background. weird
Seriously? I'll have to check that...
Has anyone besides me so notiiced that Harry's scar is more or less gone at several points in the fifth movie, e.g. in the department of mysteries? I can have made a mistake, the scenes are pretty fast, but I just can't see it!
Magelirose
Mar 28 2009, 12:23 PM
The music in OotP was indeed very much like Muggle music, but if you recall GoF, they do have wizard groups such as The Weird Sisters. So there's no reason why they shouldn't have wizard rock bands on their wireless radio. Also, Celestine Warbeck in HBP is just another form of wizard music, and she would have been popular in Arthur's and Molly's day.
Harry's scar seems to disappear a lot over the entire series, but we know it's there: whenever the wind blows and his fringe is no longer covering his scar, it shows up quite clearly. So I would say it's more to do with the position of his fringe, rather than the scar not being there.
Doug2222
Mar 28 2009, 12:37 PM
I agree that they should show more of wizard robes. I understand that it would appeal to the audience more if they are wearing normal clothing (we are all muggles after all

) but they tend to only wear robes when they are attending class and stuff. Malfoy really shouldn't be wearing a suit. I think it just doesn't work.
smelliarmus
Mar 29 2009, 09:35 AM
magelirose said -
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The music in OotP was indeed very much like Muggle music, but if you recall GoF, they do have wizard groups such as The Weird Sisters. So there's no reason why they shouldn't have wizard rock bands on their wireless radio. Also, Celestine Warbeck in HBP is just another form of wizard music, and she would have been popular in Arthur's and Molly's day.
It didn't just sound like muggle music I actually recognized the song (can't remember the name but it was that "I predict a riot one", by U2.).
Most of the adults are wearing robes in the films, but the kids are hardly ever. I can understand Harry and Hermione, but you'd expect Ron to be wearing robes with the chudley cannons motto on it or something.
Weaxzezz
Mar 29 2009, 11:53 AM
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Harry's scar seems to disappear a lot over the entire series, but we know it's there: whenever the wind blows and his fringe is no longer covering his scar, it shows up quite clearly. So I would say it's more to do with the position of his fringe, rather than the scar not being there.
Perhaps, as said, I haven't really taken a close look at it, but I might look at the fifth movie again this afternoon, even though I don't like it at all.
And again to this robe thing... Has anyone seen the picture from the unbreakable vow scene? Narcissa is wearing this green jacket kind of thing, looks like she bought it at H&M or something!

I understand that they wanted to move away from the style of clothing seen in the first movie, where the wizards are more or less dressed in period clothing, but instead of just changing it to muggle clothing they should have given the style its completely unique look!
Magelirose
Mar 29 2009, 06:12 PM
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magelirose said -
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The music in OotP was indeed very much like Muggle music, but if you recall GoF, they do have wizard groups such as The Weird Sisters. So there's no reason why they shouldn't have wizard rock bands on their wireless radio. Also, Celestine Warbeck in HBP is just another form of wizard music, and she would have been popular in Arthur's and Molly's day.
It didn't just sound like muggle music I actually recognized the song (can't remember the name but it was that "I predict a riot one", by U2.).
Yeah, but maybe they have wizard bands who do cover versions of muggle music too? I mean, it's not like they're completely cut off from the muggle world, it's just that they can't use electricity like muggles can. We all know that they can adapt their ways of doing things to produce the same result though.
Regarding the clothing Narcissa is wearing - I see what you mean. However, we've only seen one or two shots of her outfit, maybe it will look more wizard-like when we get to see it in its entirety?
I'm really not quite so worried about the clothing to be honest. As long as the characters themselves stay true to the books, then what's the problem? When DD first turned up in PoA, I was really quite disappointed, but since OotP, I'm really looking forward to seeing DD as more like the book DD. I think a lot of it is down to the director, and I also think that Yates has the measure of the HP series now. I do wish Alfonso Cuaron did more though - he got it spot on with PoA in my opinion.
Weaxzezz
Mar 29 2009, 08:18 PM
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Regarding the clothing Narcissa is wearing - I see what you mean. However, we've only seen one or two shots of her outfit, maybe it will look more wizard-like when we get to see it in its entirety?
I'm really not quite so worried about the clothing to be honest. As long as the characters themselves stay true to the books, then what's the problem? When DD first turned up in PoA, I was really quite disappointed, but since OotP, I'm really looking forward to seeing DD as more like the book DD. I think a lot of it is down to the director, and I also think that Yates has the measure of the HP series now. I do wish Alfonso Cuaron did more though - he got it spot on with PoA in my opinion.
Yes, we'll have to see about Narcissa when we see the movie (which is kind of soon atually

).
I agree that it is probably down to the director, but in the case of making a movie from a book I think that the director shouldn't wander away too far from the books. And it is, to some point, up to the actor to interpret the character.
Anyway, speaking of directors, is there any particular reason why they've changed directors so many times? Too me it just makes everything uncoherent.
Fleur Delacour
Apr 11 2009, 11:13 AM
QUOTE(Weaxzezz)
Anyway, speaking of directors, is there any particular reason why they've changed directors so many times? Too me it just makes everything uncoherent.
The constant changing in the directors is something that annoys me as each director has a different vision for the characters and for the storyline. I agree with many that Chris Columbus, who directed the first two films, did the best job in keeping true to the books. I researched into why they changed from him, and why they change so often since him, and basically Columbus declined to direct another film after CoS and the chopping and changing since him is simply down to others declining to direct another film.
Loony'sCool
Apr 12 2009, 04:08 AM
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Anyway, speaking of directors, is there any particular reason why they've changed directors so many times? Too me it just makes everything uncoherent.
Yes, I agree intirely! It makes no sense why change directors so many times. They should of kept on using the same director. Then all the scenes would fall into place. Now someof the things are jumbled up. The Director for GoF stunk at making it. He left most everything out. Like the blast ended swerts (I know I spelt it wrong), and the creatures in the maze. Oh and don't get me started on the whole World Cup ordeal. They should have put Winky in there. I was so mad when Winky wasn't sitting up in the stands, or running through the chaos after the cup.
I also agree with you on the fact that JK wasn't helping as much as she could have. But if you think about it. She was busy finishing the books, taking care of her family, and going to all the main events. I was happy to hear that she is working hard with Universal on the new theme park.
Weaxzezz
Apr 12 2009, 12:04 PM
As I perhaps have said before, I wish that they will make the movies again in the future, and do a more thorough job. Now they're just in it for the money, don't you think?
I await the themepark with highest hopes. Perhaps I shouldn't though, it'll probably be rather dissapointing...
Loony'sCool
Apr 12 2009, 08:48 PM
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Now they're just in it for the money, don't you think?
Yes I do think that. I thought it was intirely stupid to move the release date for HBP. Just becuase they thought they would gain more money during July. Well if they haven't noticed us HP fans will see the movie when ever its released. It makes no difference when. They need to put our interests to best hopes.
Weaxzezz
Apr 20 2009, 04:59 PM
Well, the producers are just too dumb to realise that this 'Twilight' thing will never be bigger than HP. Why couldn't the [edited] Twilight people move their release, that's what really bothered me... They're the n00bs, why should we move for them?
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Magelirose
Apr 20 2009, 06:16 PM
Unfortunately, it doesn't actually work like that. WB didn't move the release date because of Twilight (well, that certainly wasn't entirely the reason for the move, anyway), they moved it because of the writers' strike, and they know that the summer months are the best months to release new films. Yes, their motive was to earn more money. And actually, it might just do us some good: the more money they make out of the HP films, the more money they can spend on the future films.
Anyway - I'm a bit confused as I thought HP's original release date was the 19th November, whereas Twilight was released on the 19th of December - or have I remembered that incorrectly?
etphonehome
Apr 20 2009, 06:42 PM
Twilight was originally set for release in December in the US (Jan in the UK). When WB moved HBP back from 21st November to July it was some weeks before Summit (Twilights distributors) made the decision to bring the release date forward and step into the slot. Twilight never stole HBP slot, they were'nt even due for release at the same time. WB were never in danger of losing out to Summit.
In the end Twilight was released on 19th December in the UK...it would never have clashed with HBP even if WB hadn't moved the date.
Also could I point out that this thread has strayed off topic. The title is What Happened to the Wizarding Clothes. There is already a thread to discuss the change in release date for HBP. Thanks.
Weaxzezz
Apr 24 2009, 03:36 PM
Back on topic then.
I just looked at pictures from the DH filming. If I had the chance I would very much strangle the costume designer. How in the world could she/he dress them like that?! The clothes are appalling! Not that I don't think they're pretty, there absolutely beautiful, but they are as far from wizard as you'll ever get! Please give me back the wizard clothes...
Hermione17
May 3 2009, 09:14 PM
I think they've stayed true to the wizard clothes for some characters, like "Mrs. Weasley, the Professors...most of the background characters. As far as the Trio, Neville and similar characters...they have strayed far from the usual wizard clothes. And I agree, I want to see more strange clothing decisions. They look like normal Muggle kids. I think they are too comfortable with normal clothes. Where's the imagination and skill?
Dawn
Weaxzezz
May 5 2009, 05:39 PM
Yes, it is true that most of the backround characters have more wizardy clothes, but they stray more and more from that as well...
And did you know that Lucius Malfoy was going to have a pinstripe suit if the costume designers had had their way? Luckily our beloved Jason Isaacs stepped in and stopped the madness!
I think the movies are too much like your everyday pop-movies, not really close at all to the quality of the books.
Minyahilwen
Aug 4 2009, 01:57 PM
I am really dissapointed about the movies.
Dumbledore in the last movies was dreadfull!!
He isn't the tiniest bit like the dumbledore in the books!
And I really really hate that for the fact that dumbledore is one of those characters in the book that is so great!
Dumbledore in the movies isn't a calm man with a sense of humore.
No that is one of the points that really really irritates me.
In the first movies with Micheal Gambon?? or something like that name i thought dumbledore was maybe a bit to slow and not energetic enough but in those movies with the other actor that plays dumbledore i was like... no way they have ruined it!!
The books are so much better and I dont understand that Rowling is ok with these movies!!
Weaxzezz
Aug 15 2009, 12:36 PM
Minyahilwen:
I have also noticed that Dumbledore's character in the movies is far from that in the books. In the books he is portrayed as a sweet old man and a friend of Harry's, but in the movies Dumbledore is cold and harsh, and his relationship with Harry is stiff.
And speaking of Dumbledore... I was so dissapointed with the death scene. It could have been made one of the most beautiful scenes in memory, but they simply flunked! The ending of the sixth movie overall was horrendous (sp?).
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