Given the release of the 6th movie and the huge amount they left out (funeral, the minister being sacked, and bill and fleur getting together), Does anyone think these things will be addressed somewhere in the 7th movie? Especially since the movie will be split in two giving them more time. I come up with this idea because in the 6th movie they went back and addressed some topics that were left out fro mthe 5th movie or just revisited the 5th movie.

Also, besides the first question, I also want to know what everyone thinks about how they'll transition from movie #6 to #7 in regards to the lack of a setup? *note the lack of Dumbledore telling Harry about the horcuxes in the HBP movie.

I'm starting to think that the decision to leave out information and scenes from HBP was a conscious one. After all, Dh is to be at least 5 hours long over it's two parts and for this to work and be cohesive with the rest of the story, it would have needed flashbacks. So I believe to save doing this they just cut things like a really good explanation of the horcruxes, Dumbledores funeral, Hermione finding out about Snape (she didn't mention the Eileen Prince thing until the end of HBP the book) and anything about RAB.

I think I heard somewhere before now that there was some consideration of putting DD's funeral at the beginning of Dh. I could see that working and it would tie things together nicely even though that scene doesn't belong in that story. Artsistic licence I guess.

I was really annoyed with the amount of stuff they left out in HBP. I really do hope they address those things in DH because there were at least a few things that really did need to put in there that they didn't. Mostly I think I was annoyed that they left out those important memories that showed the things like the locket and the ring and Hufflepuff's cup. Is Harry just supposed to KNOW about those in DH? They'll probably inaccurately put it in somehow in DH.

But judging on the transition just between scenes in HBP, I doubt it will be this excellent transition from HBP to DH.

I heard the idea of putting the funeral at the beginning of DH too, and I do see how that fits into the movies... but even then the lack of information about the new minister makes important details from Harry's spats throughout 6 and 7 hard to just throw in there.

Magdalina

Yes the lack of memories about the Horcruxes annoyed me also, and I can't imagine Harry just knows what to look for as far as important things that belonged to the Hogwarts founders

Thanks for your replies, hopefully more thoughts can be added

There was so much left out in HBP that at some point in DH the missing links of sorts will have to be mentioned to cover any loose ends. For people that have never read the books and go watch the movies are missing out on the key points of the overall story line. Starting out DH with Dumbledore's funeral would probaly be the best way to go, and maybe have Harry discussing with Ron and Hermione about the Horcruxes and his quest to find them would be good for the plot as well.

I also think that the wedding would be the eye opener for the overall plot of the movie, without it, the movie will lose it;s luster with it's viewers. There are lots of missing links that need to be placed together to bring the movie to a good end to a great series.

They can still make the transition to DH smoothly. with the funeral they can show it and then Harry could wake up or something having been dreaming about it. When he leaves for the burrow they could have fred and george tell him about the wedding and that its in a few days time. They can elaborate more on the horcruxes as they search. The only thing i really think might be hard to do is him ordering Kreacher around while he stays at Grimuald Place. however they do it it can still be an easy transition.

I think thats a good thought about Harry dreaming of the what the funeral was like...that seems to be how they do things in this movie series....

I think it would be smarter for the producers and director to make a movie more identical to the books because the real money is inthe Harry Potter fan, not just the casual movie goer. If they wanted to make even more of a killing at the box office - making a good adaptation of the book would be the way to go...


Thanks for those opinions

I think I may be one of the few people who don't think DH should open with DD's funeral. I think they should open it the way the book opens- with us seeing Snape loyal to the Dark Lord and the tortured soul of Draco Malfoy then they should move right into moving Harry from the Dursleys. I think the funeral will be more potent in flashback scenes. I also think the explanation of the Horcruxes could be done in flashback and show Harry's grief over losing Dumbledore as well as explain the Horcruxes.

yeah i dont think that dumbledore's funeral would be a good opening scene. the thing that made deathly hallows good was nonstop action. i think that if they try to get as close to the 7th book as possible, they should do fine. and hermione could probably find a record of dumbledore's horcrux ideas while she steals the horcrux books. and i think that the other elements can be easily explained, cause it's going to be a long two movies.

in other words, i don't know, but i trust Steve Kloves to make a good script.

This is interesting because this is the first time I have seen the idea of Dumbledore's funeral disliked. However, I can see theidea of flashbacks being huge in this film, though persoannly I'm not a huge fan of them....I'd rather they just get the movies right in the first place...

Still, valid points guys and thanks for commenting. Any opinions on flashbacks versus back-tracking? or any other ideas on how they can make the transition a bit easier...don't forget about other details as the new minister and the wedding (especially since the Burrow was burnt to the ground!)

I think the scriptwriter would probably put a lot of flashbacks to the DH film. But personally i find flashbacks in Harry Potter seems a little cliche. Of course, i think Hermione is going to be 'dumbledore's spokesperson' in the next film, due to its lack of information of Voldemort in the HBP film.

Now, about the funeral scene, i think they have will either have a big success with it or a complete failure. It might be a big success because it would, of course, be very touching. However, it might seem separated to the rest of DH film. Also, the funeral scene is supposed to be a grieving scene, and i don't think it might be a good beginning for a film because people may find it quite boring. Unless they make it really grand. So, I think it's a bit risky to start with the funeral scene in the DH film.

Oh, and about the burrow being burnt to the ground... They might move the wedding to somewhere else. I think the scriptwriter might move the entire family to Shell Cottage. But this is a major problem because if the entire weasley family lives there, then his family would know that Ron left Harry and Hermione back in the camping site. And the audience haven't even seen Bill before, and it would be sudden that he and Fleur are in love. Now, if Bill and Fleur aren't married in the film, where is shell cottage then? And where would the weasleys live? But they can't move the weasleys to grimmnald place because molly will know what's the trio is up to. Ok, even if the weaslys DO live in there, how about the trio? If the trio doesn't live there than they can't befriend Kreacher. Wow... tricky question.

Excellent additions by Eveie - So good let me quote the last paragraph:



I'd love to hear opinions and on that paragraph because it addresses a lot of the questions, which this post was meant to ask. So what does everybody think about how the movie makers will answer these tough questions....

Also, no one has even guessed at what they'll do about the new minister, maybe they just won't show him or you guys and girls aren't interested in the minister...

nevillesgirl, neither myself like the idea that DH should start with DD's funeral. I think they kinda did it already with the wands holding, it was really like a funeral, they paid their tribute with this, plus the filmmakers did this, I think instead of the funeral. It was sad enough, I also cried, and there were many who did the same
Well, the 7th part should focus on the Horcruxes, not on DD's funeral. And another reason for it: "The Seven Potters" chapter is tragic enough in itself, so they shouldn't exaggerate it by starting with another horrible event.

I think having the funeral at the beginning is a bit risky...
They could introduce Rufus Scrimgeour in that scene, perhaps the Weasleys will be there (I can't remember if they go to the funeral in the book) and Mr Weasley will tell Harry that Scrimgeor replaced Fudge after DD's death because Fudge wasn't coping (they'll need to make some excuse) or something along those lines...

But also if it started with Harry, Ron and Hermione being together at the funeral they'll have everyone who hasn't read the books wondering why Harry just didn't go to the Burrow (which I think will be remarkably rebuilt, the are wizards after all) with them after the funeral, as the coming of age situation wasn't explained in HBP..

Having the funeral would be useful for having the scene when Voldy takes the Elder Wand but even in the book Harry didn't realise that DD had the Elder Wand until Voldy took it anyway, so I don't think if the funeral was missed at the beginning it would be a big loss to the movie...(although I would like to see it and I'd have to take some tissues)

The ideas I'm getting so far is that the funeral is too much of a sad way to begin a movie, which I understand...So maybe starting with the wedding would be a happy alternative? Though that creates a whole bunch of other questions of how they'll transition. I'm starting to think introducing the new minister would be an appropriate first scene...

Thanks for the thoughts guys!

In my opinion it would be tragic not to start at the beginning of Deathly Hallows. How fabulous of an opening would it be to see Snape with Yaxley apparating to Malfoy manor and having him show his loyalty to Voldemort and have to witness the murder of Charity Burbage the Muggle Studies professor. And then they go straight to the seven Potters.

As far as the Weasley's home, I figure they will just rebuild it. They can't possibly move anywhere else and the wedding has to be at the Burrow so they will just rebuild.

Someone in an above post said they were just going to trust Steve Kloves to do a good job writing the screenplay...this makes me nervous simply because I have felt so let down with the screenplay of some of the past movies. I know that the movies are a seperate entity from the books but I think the directors would have had an easier time transitioning from movie to movie had the openings been spot on. I really am trying to stay positive about the final Potter movies and am encouraged by the pictures of the tapings I have seen so far.

I'm hoping that the movie will start at DD funeral (Though they will probably shift it a few weeks into the summer holdiays so it all fits in with the timeline. I'm sure wizards can preserve a body a few weeks). Everyone's there basically so it's a good oppurtunity to give missing info and introduce scrimgeour. Then a scene with the trio in a deserted classroom mabye discussing the horcruxes, and hermione guessing about what the items are. Then a quick apparation to the dursley's with a gruff explanation from moody about the coming of age thing and how harry needs to return to the dursleys one last time. They they set off to the burrow and it starts getting actionpacked.

One thing I am abit miffed about is the bill/fleur wedding is just going to be sprung upon us with no prior warning. I mean imagine:

Ron: Guess what Harry? My Brother you've never met is marrying that fleur girl we haven't seen for 3 years!

Harry: Er OK, when is it?

Ron: Today ofcourse!!! your the best man, got some dress robes ready?

Haha, Smelliarms, thats pretty much what i'm thinking will happen. I think the funeral is a very good way to set the stage for the movie because of the social gathering that it turns out to be....I agree it would be a good way to introduce the new Minister and maybe Ron could say something like:

Ron: "Hey, my brotherBill is getting married to Fleur Delacour and the wedding is at our place, you gotta be there for that!"

I suppose thats an acceptable transition, what does everyone else think?

No, I don't think so. When starting with the wedding, we'll miss a lots of other things from the first chapters, like the Seven Potters, which is the most important from the start, I think. We can't leave out Mad-Eye's and Hedvig's death, or seeing LV flying. These are essential regarding the next parts.
So I'm still on the opinion, that it should start like in the book, with Snape and Yaxley.

Yeah I definitely see what your saying but the big details of LV flying and Hedwig dying seem like ust the big details that will be cut from the movie considering the cuts they've made in the past...

I think they will put in Moody dying though not necessarily in the 7 Potters escape. I have a deep fear that they'll switch the order of things and change how things happened. That said, they very well could just start with Snape and Yaxley...

Oh I hope they don't change the Seven Potters scene! I think it would be one of the most exhilerating scenes of the movie if it kept the same as the book.

Ooooh, I just thought of something! How about a return from Mrs Figg? If they didn't put the funeral in it could start off with Snape and Yaxley then it could go to a bit with Mrs Figg explaining to Harry what's going on with the coming of age scenario ect ect then the Order people come to take the Durley's to safety...do you guys think that would work ?

I really hope they stick to the book...they've got 2 movies to do it all in so I hope its all included. I don't know why, but I can't wait to see the Durley's departure, I think it'll be quite funny for some stange, random reason...

I don't think they will do the funeral to be honest. I think the wand salute was their tribute to Dumbledore, and I don't think it'll go any further than that...

That was a nice gesture towards Dumbledore indeed, but I am really hoping that they will at least show a portion of his funeral to start things off. Then the scene with Snape and Yaxley going to Malfoy Manor would be an excellent plot beginner, then off with the Seven Potters scene. But I have been hyped up in the past about particular scenes from HP movies being in the movie, then being utterly disappointed when they were either cut out entirely or changed somewhat. Like the Sectemsempra scene with Draco and Harry in HBP and the final chase scene in HBP where Harry calls Snape a coward. Yes I have learned not to get my hopes up to high until I actually see it on screen.