Fred Wazlib
Jul 31 2009, 10:04 PM
Hi everyone !
i opened this topic to discuss and comment all the things that were left out in the HBP movie .
Although i liked it i was really dissapointed because there were a lot of thing that were not shown or explained and that was the first thing i thought when i saw the movie so here is place to comment all the things you thought would be included in the film or the things that were given very little importance.
to start with i thought that the movie gave very little impoortance to the half blood prince and the potions book itself, i know that they had a lot of scenes to film but the book is really important to harry throughout the story and it has great influence over him and most importantly is the title of the book so well i dont know what you think,
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Karee
Jul 31 2009, 11:17 PM
Oohh good topic. I watched the movie for the third time yesterday and thought even more about things that were missing..I really liked it though.
I was disappointed that they left out the line from Dumbledore we see in the book: "I am not worried Harry, I am with you." It shows just how much trust he has in Harry.
I was also disappointed at how many of the memories were left out. Such as Riddle with Hepzibah Smith so that we know about other possible horcruxes. I had others, but I can't think of them right now... I'm sure I'll be back.
SiriuslyHarry11
Aug 1 2009, 02:17 AM
there was soooo much left out of the movie. i was upset that we didn't see the other memories as well. they also didn't have anything about the apparation stuff which is how harry, hermione, and ron get around in the 7th. they left out dumbledor's funeral, and they didn't do harry/ginny's kiss right, they also left out the whole hermione figuring out why the half-blood prince called himself that. there's probably more...i'll have to reread the book(for the 9th time). i'll have more soon.
Zikarot
Aug 1 2009, 04:07 AM
Personally, I didn't like the movie at all... too many things left out and some other crappy bussines too, I mean...
- When the attack on the Burrow takes place (of course, ignoring this is all just for the movie and doesn't actually take place in the story), Harry easily jumps trough the circle of fire... but Lupin doesn't... AND THEN GINNY DOES XD!! Did they intend to make Ginny braver than Remus Lupin!?
- The movie itself is humor-oriented... I don't think Harry Potter is a comedy, is it? I mean... "chic" "chic" - Acromantula taunts by H.J.Potter.... absurd, they have mistaken Felix Felicis with marihuana...
Well, anyway, the post is about what was actually MISSED from the book... so.. we begin:
- The Burrow cannot be found by people outside the Order of the Phoenix.
- All relevant memories about the Gaunts, Hepzibah Smith, etc...
- Ehm... Rufus Scrimegeour as Minister of Magic!?!?!? Contact between Muggle Prime
Minister and "The Other Minister"!?!?
- THE Battle in Hogwarts!? I mean... climax of the book? most tension ever?
- Not even a slight mention to Bill's Werewolfization? (cool word xD) will he be Ok by his wedding? who knows!
This, I think, are the main ones... there are probably several more, not mentioned by the people above me nor by me... but I can't remember anyone right now. There are several things I don't understand... why to create an out-of-plot scene in the Burrow instead of filming the battle in Hogwarts :S.... just doesn't make sense.... Talking about the film confuses me too much to continue making a list... I can't recall correctly xD... evil film!

I'm angry at the movie.
Axoria
Aug 1 2009, 03:17 PM
Yeah,
SiriuslyHarry11, I also wanted to see the other memories as well! But for me the house elves were the most missing. I think they're important in the book, they shouldn't have left them out. E.g. Lavender was for me a bit too much, like at the train with drawing the "R+L" thing.. In this time we could've seen other more important things, such as the Apparition test. I loved the way how it's presented in the book, and then it wasn't mentioned at all!

Oh, and right,
Zikarot, the attack against the burrow, whoahh

I couldn't understand that, really strange and again wasting time..
SiriuslyHarry11
Aug 1 2009, 05:21 PM
yeahAxoria. i love the house elves and was really upset that they took them out. i was really looking forward to the fight between Dobby and Kreacher. which reminds me that they also took out the entire part about Sirius's will. i also agree that they went a little overboard with the whole ron/lavender thing. i think they went a little too far with the hormone rampage.
and i was entirely confused about the burrow scene; where will Fleur and Bill's wedding be now?
Karee
Aug 1 2009, 06:07 PM
The house elves in my opinion were a big thing left out. I mean it's going to be kinda confusing in the next one when harry all of a sudden owns Kreacher and has him help figure out where the locket is. Isn't that important? And the battle at the end! so much action was missing from the whole thing and there could have been a lot more if they would have had the battle like they do in the book.
I wonder if they will mention Bill and Fleur in the next one. I was surprised they left out the fact that they are engaged or that Bill was mauled by Greyback.
MyLife911
Aug 1 2009, 08:26 PM
Zikarot, I think the Harry Potter series was intended to be light hearted. Of course, much of the series is dark. I thought the humor that was used throughout the movie gave the characters more chemistry than in the last few movies. I do think that they wasted time on the scene at the Burrow that could have been used for a more climatic fight scene. I wish we could have seen more of the memories but I understand why they were taken out. Even though I wish they could have added more from the book I liked this movie a lot more than the last one.
Gred&Forge03
Aug 1 2009, 09:45 PM
i was upset that the dursely scene was missing. like SiriuslyHarry11 said it would have shown the "testing" of Sirius's will. They are also missing the whole fact that harry is obsessed with draco. he's supposed to set dobby and kreacher to tail him. They forgot to put in the trio's O.W.L results. and they never showed that snape was the DADA teacher, which adds to harry's hate of him and adds to the "betrayal" of the potions book.
Snape15
Aug 2 2009, 01:56 AM
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I was upset with the movie as well. They could have cut quite a bit of the romance scenes out and focused on the most important part of the book imo: the Hepzibah Smith house elf memory, which reveals two horcruxes that Harry has no idea about now. Why on earth or what was the decision to leave out this memory???
Also, the battle at the Burrow (which wasn't in the book) scene should have been swapped with the in Hogwarts at the end of the movie. Terrible decision making on the directors part.
Luna finding Harry on the train and not Tonks? Did Yates even read the book or just roll with his terrible script writers?
Also, left out dumbledore explain what the other horcruxes could be.... didn't mention the snake, cup, locket, something from Ravenclaw or Griffindor. The diary and ring were on his desk, they were destroyed so I can see not mentioning them in the movie, but they could have spent a minute of screen time elaborating more on this.
There is much more, but this is all for now. Yates should have focused on the core stuff in the book and expanded out from there. Now I am truly not looking forward to the last two movies if this is the quality we are to expect.
SiriuslyHarry11
Aug 2 2009, 02:05 AM
i do love this movie but i just wished that they had stuck to the book more. they really should have swapped the burrow scene for the battle of hogwarts. i really don't understand why they don't make the movies longer in order to stick to the book more; it's not like nobody would go and see it. i actually believe that more people would go and see the movies even if they were 4 hours long. i definitely would!!!!
Fred Wazlib
Aug 3 2009, 02:28 AM
i totally agree SiriuslyHarry11 ! i dont know why they dont make films longer, as if any of us would not see them because of that, it would be really great, they could just film all the scenes and not leave them out as they had done with HBP,
What Snape15 says is reght, this film makes us wonder if Yates has ever read the book , not only because he has left a lot of important scenes out but because he just invented some scenes, i really dont lnow why they wasted time in the Burrow scene , it was really pointless , so now we dont know how Harry is going to know what he has to find because in the film not the snake,the locket, the cup and the other horcruxes are mentioned.
I know that we all read the book but friends that didnt kept asking me why it is named the half-blood prince and i quite underestand them, the film does not give the slightest importance to the book and harry's "realtion" with it.
Axoria
Aug 3 2009, 09:36 AM
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i do love this movie but i just wished that they had stuck to the book more. they really should have swapped the burrow scene for the battle of hogwarts. i really don't understand why they don't make the movies longer in order to stick to the book more
Right,
SiriuslyHarry11, I was wondering the same. But I think it's because they don't want to make a movie for the fans, but just in general.. They want to entertain the mass, and that's disgusting for me.. I know it tends to be all about money, but anyway, it's a movie based upon a book series, so they should stick to the original story more.
And yep, interesting question about Bill and Fleur's wedding, then they will show the construction of the burrow??

Well, you know, now they must face the fact what they've done, the films shouldn't contain such pointless scenes, then it leads to chaos, as we can see..
bazouli
Aug 5 2009, 06:34 PM
There was SO much missing! After the wife and I saw, we got in the truck and started going over things. I think the better question would be how much of the movie was in the book???
A quick list of missing/discrepencies:
The Dursley's, all of it ( We really wanted to see the floating glasses banging on the Dursleys heads.)
Tonks found Harry on the train, not Luna
Hermione going into Borgin and Burkes trying to figure out what Malfoy was doing.
Draco being sensitive about his left arm and people touching it.
Dumbledore ASKING Harry for his help, not just appearing and saying "Do what I say!"
Dumbledore EXPLAiNiNG that they are going to be going over the life of Tom Riddle.
How many memories were left out?
Harry and Dumbledore's discussion in the Weasleys broom shed where Dumbledore tells Harry that he should tell Ron and Hermione about the prophecy and everything else that he learns. This of course plays a HUGE part in book 7.
Well, I think we can safely say that the first few chapters resulted in about three minutes of the movie.
David Yates should be embarassed with his final product. Send him to Azkaban!!
happy-potter
Aug 8 2009, 03:30 PM
I was not satisfied with all those missing bits. Especially the memory parts. How does Harry know what to go after now. The tiara? And what about the cup and snake? Anyone? He doesn't even know that Tom Riddle liked to collect important things from his victims. He knows nothing that could help him find the last ones. Is it me or is Harry's task in the last film much larger than it should be?
Oh, yeah. The burrow burning scene. What was the point of that? Delete it and help Harry a little please.
Yeah, Draco's arm. Harry says to Hermione "You saw it Hermione" (or something) What did she see? Harry's suspicion comes out of nothing.
Too many things were missing and this film must have been hard to understand for the persons who have not read the books. I find this the worst film of them all, though a good one to stand alone, btu when thinking it's the same as the book. That's just poor.
mihirviveka
Aug 17 2009, 03:03 PM
I wrote this in another post but this one looks like the correct one. Sorry for the repetition.
The movie is one of the worst movie ever in terms of scriptand direction,
They had a perfect story, good crew but the script and direction is [Mod Deleted]
They have spoiled the important story concepts and also they spoiled the emotional elements!
That means they have spoiled everything.
Story concepts:
1. Sirius died just weeks ago and Voldemort has started open war and Harry just walks into a
muggle hotel and is flirting with an unknown muggle girl! Is this the way the real Harry would
behave?!
2. DD should explain his arm more clearly and the Gaunt house sequence should have been included.
Because this is the reason that Harry was able to destroy Voldemort and not DD. DD in his haste
to touch the stone in the ring got cursed and died so he was unable to master death by accepting
it(either his or others). But Harry was able to accept it and because of it he succeeded in
destroying Voldemort. So that is an important concept.
3. Harry does not see the diadem in RR. How will he know it there in the last film? Maybe he
just finds it accidentally in such extreme pressure!
4. Voldemort's life not explained nicely. A contrast should have been shown between Harry and
Voldemort. They both grew in similar conditions but Harry was always bullied by Dudley. But even
then Harry was able to love others. But without any reason Vlodemort developed hatred towards
everyone.
5. Harrys and Ginny's love was downplayed.
6. No detail about the horcruxes.
7. And etc., etc.(Mundungus fletcher, Kreacher, Dobby, Sirius's mirror and what not)
Only the quidditch matches, Slughorn, Ron-Hermione aspects were portrayed nicely.
Emotional Elements:
1. Not even a mention of Sirius.
2. Harry and Ginny's love(made it look dumb).
3. Death of DD! He was most close to Harry, the greatest headmaster of Hogwarts, 115 years old,
extremely powerful and most adored wizard in Britain, He was leading the war against Voldemort
till then. He is legend in the story. Not even a lame
battle and a small funeral! Even the centaurs who treated humans as vermin respected him! We
should cry when he dies. In the film it is shown as if it is an everyday thing that a great
wizard like him gets murdered by his one was his staff in his own school!
4. We should be hating Snape by the end. I think that was why JKR put the detention and
everything and so much detail in the book for the Half Blood Prince.
These are just the main aspects. If I go on listing the minor things then it will fill a book.
Personally i feel that all this is due to lack of respect and admiration towards JKR by the
film makers and writers.
They are so vain
and have such little brain
pathetic losers butchering Harry
why dont you go and get beaten with your Daddy
why dont you disappear without a clue
coz Crabbe and Golyle are scholars before you
Now we have to wait for them to Butcher the last part. What changes will they make?
maybe they will show that Snape is Harry's father!
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xcitric
Aug 26 2009, 08:00 PM
I saw the movie some number of weeks ago, and I thought it was great. However, in my sudden burst of obsession with everything HP, I decided to get to reading the books. I got through them in a couple of weeks and now seeing this topic in the forums has got me thinking. I'd like to see the movie again through a different and more knowledgeable perspective before I judge it.
Still, I'm curious to see how the remaining two movies will unfold, given the now-apparent huge lack of information that should have been revealed in HP6.
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