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Sister to the Dark Lord
Well, this is our second thread! Congratulations to all the faithful Draco and Tom fans that filled up our old thread up to capacity! You guys all rock!

For the new people who have found this thread: we are DODDD, or you can call us A Draught of Dramatic Draconian Drawls, if you want to get all formal. Everyone here at DODDD is a fan of Draco Malfoy and/or Tom Felton. We talk about the character and the actor, from Draco's home life to Tom's singing career. We may support bad boy Draco, but we are very warm and welcoming! Please do not hesitate to join. If you do want to join, all you have to do is come around and post regularly. If you have questions, don't hesitate to owl (PM) me; I may be President, but I do not bite!

Well, I do suppose that's all I can think of to say at the moment. Our conversation on the last DODDD thread died, so we're really starting fresh here peoples! *throws confetti* Now, let the party begin!

Cheer and love,
Ty
Witherwings
Ouuh, first new thread! For some unknown reason, new threads are always exciting, haha.

Weelll look at this I totally forgot to post on Tom's birthday. eeek.gif Happy belated birthday Tom, he's getting old haha! But I still love him all the same.

So I'm rereading the series and I have a big internal conflict going on, haha. I just realised how mean Draco actually is... I mean I knew he was mean and all but there are some things he says that make me cringe and are absolutely dreadful and unforgivable. ermm.gif But I guess I still love him... I just have to start to emphasize on the fact that I am aware of how naturally INSANELY MEAN he is, and how it's not COMPLETELY his father's fault. biggrin.gif
Luna♥Lover
Draco is mean in the books! In the movies, not so much, but I'm re-reading OOTP and I'm screaming at him to be nice! When I first read book 6, I was thinking. "...I thought this guy was mean..." But, yeah, it's kinda interesting that none of us really noticed his mean-ness...
Witherwings
Well I always knew he was mean, but they dont put the worst stuff in the movies, like him insulting their families and stuff... and he tried to kill Hermione in DH. That kind of goes against everything I've been saying all this time. biggrin.gif

What is happening to this thread, where is everyone! I know everyone is probably real busy with their 'real' lives (haha) but I wish more people posted on this site. sad.gif
hot-for-harry
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What is happening to this thread, where is everyone! I know everyone is probably real busy with their 'real' lives (haha) but I wish more people posted on this site.


I'm so sorry I haven't posted in...forever! It's really terrible how long it's been since I've posted. It may have already hit over two months. But I'm back and posting!

I see that we just started a new thread. It's a little sad, thinking about all the conversation we had in the old thread, but I'm excited for all the conversation we'll have in this one. And by 'conversation', I mean us gushing over Draco and feeling sorry for him. tongue.gif

For me, the reason I never really thought too much about Draco's meanness was because I passed it off as him being a bad boy and it just being family obligation. The bad boy part only drew me to him more, and the family obligation thing made me feel sorry for him.

He was mean, but he really does have a good heart deep down. He's such a conflicted character that it is sometimes hard to tell what is him being mean and what he is doing because of his father. I love him to death though, so...he's still awesome even though he made some really, really bad choices.

~alyssa~
Witherwings
I agree with absolutely everything you said! I'd actually written down something about who he really is and why he's not that bad and blaablabla. Anyways, it went something like this; that he was a mean person and a bully, but his dad played a huuge part in it because he wanted to please him and his dad bullied him, and that I think he and Harry ended up respecting each other a little more after DH, and that he realised in HBP that it wasn't that fun and easy being on the 'dark side'... etc etc. What I meant earlier was that I do pass off his mean-ness as pressure and everything we've ever mentionned, but it simply surprised me a little to read these absolutely horrid things he said. tongue.gif But with time, he matured. And I still love him whether he's mean or not. biggrin.gif I still don't know what to think about him trying to kill Hermione in DH, though...

And I know what you mean, a new thread makes it feel like we're starting from scratch. sad.gif

My dad refuses to understand my love for Draco... mind you he's pretty narrow-minded. But imagine if his name had actually ended up being Spungen... my dad would have been even WORSE about him!
lisasnape
Hi Everyone! I just wanted to say sorry for not being on in so long. I didn't realize that we had a new thread and therefore wasn't getting the email updates when people posted here. I've changed the DODDD link at the bottom of my signature to bring people to the new thread, rather than the old, and now I'm back on track! biggrin.gif

Hugs,
Lisa
hot-for-harry
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I still don't know what to think about him trying to kill Hermione in DH, though...


Honestly, I don't remember him trying to kill her. That's really bad that I don't remember...it means I can't remember part of a series I have read many times over. ohmy.gif

And Lisa, I'm positive that I've been away longer than you have, so you don't have to feel bad. I did the same with the link in my signature, by the way.

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My dad refuses to understand my love for Draco... mind you he's pretty narrow-minded.


Haha, I haven't told my dad about my love for Draco. If I did though...he'd probably laugh and roll his eyes at my love for a fictional character.

~alyssa~
Witherwings
Haha yeah, don't worry, I'd forgotten too. It's in the Room of Requirement when they go looking for the diadem and Draco comes in. Let's just say he, uh... wasn't thinking and uhh... had a quick reaction that he would have regretted after and.. yeah. tongue.gif

My parents seriously think I believe in HP and stuff, because I'm always making comments and relating to it... but I am aware that it is (unfortunately) not real. eeek.gif

Where did everyone from the old thread go? sad.gif Like the very first members.. feels like they haven't posted in forever, but maybe it's just me!

Ps; while we're fighting over who was gone longer... I left for almost a year, sooo... tongue.gif
hot-for-harry
I was gone for a little over three months, so you have me beat. However, I have beat Lisa, so... This is the weirdest "fight".

I know what you mean about everyone leaving. I think there are really four of us, maybe five left who regularly ('regularly' is used very loosely) anymore. But at least it's not a two way conversation. We do still have some regular members!

~alyssa~

I'll try to post again soon with a question.
Veritaserum14
*peeks head in shyly* Hello fellow Draco fans. I am so sorry for being gone so long. I didn't even know that we had a new thread. Speaking of which, I should probably update the link in my siggy as well.

Now, on the subject of Draco's meanness, I guess I always sort of looked beyond that when I was reading. But now that I really think about it I guess he is a lot meaner than I might have realized. Maybe it was the movies, he did seem a lot less mean in the movies than in the books.

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My parents seriously think I believe in HP and stuff, because I'm always making comments and relating to it... but I am aware that it is (unfortunately) not real.


Hehe, don't worry. I am also constantly making random HP references just to see if anyone gets them....they never do. laugh.gif

I will see if I can come up with another discussion topic. Hopefully I will become a part of the regular conversation, soon. I'll try my best!
-Karina
hot-for-harry
Welcome back, Karina! Would you like to join in our contest of who has been away from here longer? So far Witherwings is winning.

But anyway, I thought of a question. And don't shoot me because of it (you will see why):

If Tom Felton hadn't been picked for Draco (I know, I can't imagine it either!), who would you have picked to play the part?

I, myself, will come back with an answer later.

~alyssa~
Witherwings
Haha! Yes, I'm very proud to be winning...? biggrin.gif Welcome back everyone!

If Tom Felton hadn't been picked for Draco (I know, I can't imagine it either!), who would you have picked to play the part?

Hahaha I am not going to shoot you... and not only because I can't really do that right now. rolleyes.gif But it is so hard to imagine someone else, because Tom does so so so well. All I can imagine, really, is them picking some typically good-looking blond teenager. blink.gif I don't know why. But I have no idea, it would be very interesting to see who else was considered, or even close (eep!) to getting the role!

EDIT: Check this out, particularly the ch aracterisation and film portrayal parts. smile.gif
Sister to the Dark Lord
After a slow start, I'm totally overjoyed to see everyone here and posting like there's no tomorrow! Have I ever mentioned how much I totally love you guys?

If Tom Felton hadn't been picked for Draco (I know, I can't imagine it either!), who would you have picked to play the part?

Goodness, I honestly don't know! I never really pay attention to the actor, but the character, and it gets really annoying when people mix the two up. Example: when people use the names "Tom Felton" and "Draco Malfoy" interchangably. I'm just like, no, they're not the same person. What do we get out of this rant? I honestly can't answer hot-for-harry's question. Sorry.

However, on the topic of Draco's meanness, I agree with hot-for-harry:

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For me, the reason I never really thought too much about Draco's meanness was because I passed it off as him being a bad boy and it just being family obligation. The bad boy part only drew me to him more, and the family obligation thing made me feel sorry for him.


Couldn't have said it better myself, so I'm not even going to try. Except that I was a tad disappointed in Draco, because he showed so much promise of turning against his family (especially during the tower scene with him and Dumbledore in HBP), yet he just couldn't do it. His father was horrible, but he's still Draco's father! It must be so hard to turn against family, even when you know what they are doing is wrong. Poor Draco ..... and that is why I forgive him his harshness towards Gryffindors. He has such a hard life, he takes out all the energy from his misery out on the other Houses, because he truly knows no other way to cope.
Veritaserum14
tongue.gif Well, as far as the contest goes I think Witherwings has got us all beat. I believe I was only gone for almost five months, so in retrospect that's really not a whole lot.

If Tom Felton hadn't been picked for Draco (I know, I can't imagine it either!), who would you have picked to play the part?
Eeep! It's hard to even think about anyone else playing that part. Tom does do a pretty good job of portraying Draco. Sister to the Dark Lord, tell me about it! People are always getting them mixed up, it is so annoying. I sometimes feel like ranting about it too! Now, let me see, I think that if it were even possible for anyone else to be Draco, it could be....Man! I'm really drawing a blank! laugh.gif

I totally agree with Alyssa on the whole passing off Draco's meanness as part of the whole "bad boy" attitude, and I also did feel sorry for how he has to always live up to his dad's beliefs and his "I'm better than everybody else" standards. I tried to be mad at Draco for having such a weak will and not being able to make his own decisions about that at first, but it's darn near impossible to be mad at a guy like that. *sigh*

Well, I'll probably keep rambling if I don't stop now, so I guess as soon as I can think of something interesting for us to talk about I will check back in.

-Karina
lisasnape
I'm very happy to in last place for the "fight", as Alyssa aptly named it, of being gone the longest! laugh.gif Wow, I didn't realize that I hadn't posted for two months though. That's shameful. Now, onto the discussion!

If Tom Felton hadn't been picked for Draco (I know, I can't imagine it either!), who would you have picked to play the part?

I have thought long and hard on this because I really wanted to come up with a good answer. Unfortunately, no one else really fits the bill. I do think that if James McAvoy was five or more years younger he would have made a great Draco. He could pull off the sneer and the meanness, but still make us melt with those blue eyes of his. I feel that his face lends itself to the characterization that Witherwings gave us a link to. His hair would need to be bleached of course, just like our dear Mr. Felton. Alas, he is a wee bit too old for the part, so I thank my lucky stars that Tom was available! wub.gif

Lisa
Witherwings
And he originally auditionned for Harry or Ron! I'm secretly glad he didn't get the part... laugh.gif Besides, I can't imagine as Harry or as Ron. It's also very hard to imagine myself in a 'what if he hadn't been cast' situation rather than a 'what if he'd gotten replaced' situation. Because I always think of the second one, so all I feel is anger and that no one else will ever be as good as him. If any of that made sense... :'D

I will now think very hard to come up with a question...

...

But my apples and caramel dip are distracting me. Maybe I'll read through that Wikipedia page and think of something.
Sister to the Dark Lord
Hmmm, a new question, eh? Try this one on for size (sorry if it's not up to par with the normal questions, I've got a bunch of people buzzing in my ear and this is just off the top of my head):

In terms of Draco's attitude, how much do you think is contributed by Lucius, how much is Draco's "bad boy image", how much is pure Draco, etc. If there's a different factor than hasn't been mentioned by the time you've got that far, what is that factor you're adding, how much of Draco's attitude does it make up, and why. Explanations! They give conversations depth and interest.

Go wild, Draco fans!
Witherwings
Yeee this is the most important part of Draco. happy.gif

In terms of Draco's attitude, how much do you think is contributed by Lucius, how much is Draco's "bad boy image", how much is pure Draco, etc. If there's a different factor than hasn't been mentioned by the time you've got that far, what is that factor you're adding, how much of Draco's attitude does it make up, and why.

With who and how we grow up is what shapes us and makes us who we are, so it's very difficult to know... But Draco is definitely a mean mean bully who's full of himself and spoiled. biggrin.gif But he's constantly trying to please his dad and has also been bullied by him, so obviously, and as we saw sometimes in the book, some parts were just him trying to make Lucius happy. I think him disliking muggle-borns and people who aren't 'worthy' of stuff is his true self, he's definitely a Slytherin! He's always had life easy and walked around proudly, but in HBP it's like... he didn't have time for that haha. I think he might (even if they say this about like aaall bullies..) have insluted other people to make himself feel better... not necessarily because he doesn't like himself, but because he has this need to get his head as big as possible. biggrin.gif

I could say so much more but I don't want to go off-topic, I don't have time or the mood, and I don't want it to become an essay on Draco's ch aracter. rolleyes.gif

On a sidenote... Tom's girlfriend is being Cruella de Vil for Halloween and wanted him to be a dalmatien haha.
xxkrakenslayerxx
oh wow, it's been a while since I've posted here ohmy.gif

In terms of Draco's attitude, how much do you think is contributed by Lucius, how much is Draco's "bad boy image", how much is pure Draco, etc. If there's a different factor than hasn't been mentioned by the time you've got that far, what is that factor you're adding, how much of Draco's attitude does it make up, and why.

I definitely think that Lucius had a big part molding Draco's "bad boy image", but I can't place all the blame on him. No matter how Draco was raised, he made the choice to act like a spoiled, selfish brat. He could have befriended muggle borns and rebelled against his father, but instead he chose to be a bully. I agree with Witherwings though about Draco wanting to please his father. Being an only child - and the only male son - must have been a lot of pressure for him. Lucius would've expected great things from him, so Draco would act like his father wanted him to so that Lucius would be proud of him.
hot-for-harry
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I'm very happy to in last place for the "fight", as Alyssa aptly named it, of being gone the longest!


I actually can't take credit for naming our little contest a fight. The credit goes to Witherwings who said we were fighting. But I do think you are still in last!

If Tom Felton hadn't been picked for Draco (I know, I can't imagine it either!), who would you have picked to play the part?

I realized that I haven't even answered my own question yet, so here goes. Just like many of you, I can't really picture anyone else besides Tom Felton. Maybe if Dakota Fanning had a brother...just kidding. But she does have white blond hair, so.... Tom Felton was the perfect choice though, so I'm extraordinarily happy that he was chosen. He just seems to get all the emotions and looks of Draco down.

In terms of Draco's attitude, how much do you think is contributed by Lucius, how much is Draco's "bad boy image", how much is pure Draco, etc. If there's a different factor than hasn't been mentioned by the time you've got that far, what is that factor you're adding, how much of Draco's attitude does it make up, and why.

This is a really good question because we were talking about this whole thing in the beginning of the thread. I think that 90% of his attitude is from his father and his father's wicked ways. Ten percent goes to how Draco is to begin with. He is one of those people who has to top everything you say, and beat you in all aspects of life.

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No matter how Draco was raised, he made the choice to act like a spoiled, selfish brat. He could have befriended muggle borns and rebelled against his father, but instead he chose to be a bully.


I can see what you're saying that is was Draco's choice, but I think that by the time he was exposed to the muggle borns or just flat-out muggles, he already had his father's views imprinted in his mind. What I'm saying, is due to his family's ignorance, Draco only got one side of the story for the first ten years of the life, which by then it was practically to late. But yes, there is always a choice, so Draco get's blamed for his actions in the end.


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On a sidenote... Tom's girlfriend is being Cruella de Vil for Halloween and wanted him to be a dalmatien haha.


That cracks me up because in all the pictures and videos I have seen her in, she seems like a natural Cruella with Tom being the whipped dalmation.

~alyssa~
Sister to the Dark Lord
Well, I know it's pretty late, late enough that we've almost forgotten about Halloween for another year, but a couple questions about the October holiday (Halloween, I mean, not Thanksgiving tongue.gif):

What type of candy do you think Tom Felton gave out to kids for Halloween? Did he give out candy at all?

What type of candy do you think the Malfoy family gave out to kids for Halloween? Did they give out candy at all? Did they pass out candy to everyone, or just the pureblooded children?

Hope everyone had a happy Halloween!

Cheers and love,
Ty
xxkrakenslayerxx
What type of candy do you think Tom Felton gave out to kids for Halloween? Did he give out candy at all?

He probably gave out all the good candy that costs more than 99 cents tongue.gif He has the money so he probably bought the full candybars and other sugery goodness lol.

What type of candy do you think the Malfoy family gave out to kids for Halloween? Did they give out candy at all? Did they pass out candy to everyone, or just the pureblooded children?

I don't think the Malfoy's would have given out candy. The thought of muggles coming to their home probably disgusted them, and I just can't see pureblood children going trick-or-treating. I don't know why, but Halloween seems more of a muggle holiday, even though they celebrate it in the books laugh.gif I don't know, it's probably just my weirdness lol
Snapefan21
*fidgets*
Uh...Hey guys! Remember me? Probably not. I've been neglecting Veritaserum lately. I'm sorry! DX

QUOTE(Sister to the Dark Lord @ Nov 7 2009, 09:57 PM) [snapback]585427[/snapback]

Well, I know it's pretty late, late enough that we've almost forgotten about Halloween for another year, but a couple questions about the October holiday (Halloween, I mean, not Thanksgiving tongue.gif):

What type of candy do you think Tom Felton gave out to kids for Halloween? Did he give out candy at all?

What type of candy do you think the Malfoy family gave out to kids for Halloween? Did they give out candy at all? Did they pass out candy to everyone, or just the pureblooded children?

Hope everyone had a happy Halloween!

Cheers and love,
Ty

Since I'm on my Wii right now, and staring at my television screen instead of a computer, I'll have to use a quote box to answer the questions. You can't copy and paste on a Wii! sleep.gif
Tom Felton? I bet he went to a ton of parties held only for the rich and famous. If he stayed home, however, I bet he gave out expensive chocolate bars to all the screaming fangirls.

I doubt the Malfoys gave out any candy to anyone. They probably thought that Halloween was a stupid day, mocking purebloods in such a pathetic way.
Either that, or chocolate frogs tongue.gif
Witherwings
What type of candy do you think the Malfoy family gave out to kids for Halloween? Did they give out candy at all? Did they pass out candy to everyone, or just the pureblooded children?

Honestly I don't think they bothered with that. They probably blocked off the gate and scared them with that albino peacock of theirs. biggrin.gif And got really annoyed by people who came anyway. Imagine if they had a meeting with Voldemort on Halloween, and a kid comes at the door. blink.gif And I'm not sure where exactly they live, but I think it's in the middle of nowhere, and it's hard to tell if it's wizards or muggles who would come.

As for Tom Felton, (gaaah he's so sweet wub.gif) I'm sure he would have given out candy, but he must have been at some party. He did dress up and go out somewhere (ahaaa I'm a stalker! Noo just wanted to see his costume).

EDIT: AAAHHH, I come with wonderful news! Turns out it was Crabbe who tried to kill Hermione in DH, not Draco. Ahah I'm so happyyy. I literally shouted when I was reading and I got to that part, my friends thought I was crazy.
Sister to the Dark Lord
*thinks* Wow, yeah, you're right, Witherwings! Yaaay! *does happy dance with Witherwings*

What type of candy do you think Tom Felton gave out to kids for Halloween? Did he give out candy at all?

I think he gave out suckers and Rockets candy, when he wasn't at some fancy party. Not sure why I think he gave out Rockets, I can just picture it really easily, that's all.

What type of candy do you think the Malfoy family gave out to kids for Halloween? Did they give out candy at all? Did they pass out candy to everyone, or just the pureblooded children?

Well, they probably had a Halloween party at Malfoy Manor for all the purebloods, and for sure children were there, and at a party you need to have food and/or candy. So, I don't think they handed out candy, per say, but the pureblooded children did get candy from the Malfoys.
DracosLady
I'm baaaccckkk, after almost 3 months of not being able to get logged on to this bloody site...Ergh it was frustrating. I finally got an email, wanting to know where I had been, so I was finally able to log in through that....I see alot has happened in my abscence shutup.gif

What type of candy do you think Tom Felton gave out to kids for Halloween? Did he give out candy at all?

If he gave out any candy he probaly gave them loads of chocolates and pop rock candies...I dunno I guess thats what he would have given them...My daughter got loads of chocolate and her and my son fought over who would get it.

What type of candy do you think the Malfoy family gave out to kids for Halloween? Did they give out candy at all? Did they pass out candy to everyone, or just the pureblooded children?

The Malfoys would have insured that only purebloods got the best goodies, they would have given them brownies, cookies and gift bags, as for the blood traitors like the Weasleys and the mudbloods like Hermione, all they would have gotten were some lollipops.

Hey the Malfoys aren't known for being generous with those they consider to be below them lol ohmy.gif
Veritaserum14
Sorry for not peeking in sooner, guys.

What type of candy do you think Tom Felton gave out to kids for Halloween? Did he give out candy at all?
Maybe he did give out chocolate, and naturally he would have had a selection of HP candy (i.e. Bertie Botts, Blood Pops, Chocolate Frogs, etc.). Personally, I would not be willing to give out chocolate, I'd be too tempted to eat it all! biggrin.gif Definately there had to be chocolate, though, no Halloween is happy without chocolate!

What type of candy do you think the Malfoy family gave out to kids for Halloween? Did they give out candy at all? Did they pass out candy to everyone, or just the pureblooded children?
I love Draco and everything, but I don't think the Malfoys are exactly the "giving" type. I think they might have had a Halloween party for some of their closest friends, purebloods of course. Any children at the party would have had expensive candy. Lucius does like to show off his wealth after all; he would not give little purebloods cheap, everyday candy.

Halloween is long past. I think we might need a new question. I have a really unoriginal holiday-themed question: What would the Malfoy family do for Thanksgiving? and What would Draco be thankful for? How would he show gratitude?
xxkrakenslayerxx
What would the Malfoy family do for Thanksgiving?

I don't think they'd really do anything. Thankgiving seems more like a muggle holiday than a magical holiday. I can see families like the Weasley's celebrating it, but as for the Malfoy's, it would just be a normal day for them. Nothing special.

What would Draco be thankful for? How would he show gratitude?

I think he'd be grateful for just being safe. I can't imagine that everyday was sunshine and daisies, especially towards his last three years at Hogwarts. Life must've been very stressful with Voldemort around. I don't think he's 'show' gratitude, though. He'd be more grateful on the inside, in his mind.
Witherwings
Well Thanksgiving is way past for me. biggrin.gif But I'll answer anyway.

What would the Malfoy family do for Thanksgiving? What would they be thankful for?

For some reason, holidays+Malfoy family never realy worked for me, haha. I mean I never gave it a thought and I never saw them as celebrating kind of people. So I'm not sure what to think. Maybe they had a special dinner and all, with relatives... just a special occasion. I think, if they did take time to be thankful (which I still can't imagine them doing!) they would be thankful for... the fact that they're all alive and together? blink.gif Or, if Voldy happened to be in the house at the time, they would be 'thankful' that they're serving him, ha... biggrin.gif
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