The Harry Potter and the Half-Blood Prince countdown clock standee will appear in bookstores starting May 27th, 50 days prior to release of the book on July 16th. A picture of the standee, which includes new Mary GrandPre art, can be seen here: http://www.veritaserum.com/books/book6/img/hbpstandee.jpg
We can clearly tell that the people on the left side are Ron and Hermione, but who do you all think the girl/woman on the right is? Ginny, Lily...? Also, perhaps the dark mark and the supposed muggle houses behind it are foreshadowing that Voldemort and Company will start attacking muggles? Hmm...
Any other thoughts?
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OMG, Matt, what a spot!! Ooh, if you hadn't pointed that out, I don't think I'd have noticed! Mmm....first thought would be Ginny, with the red hair....but I suppose it could be Lily, but it's strange for her to not be with James, if that's the case? She does look like an older woman so it would make sense to be Lily....she must be integral to the story to be included on the cover and JKR did say that we'd learn more about Lily in HBP...or at least that library listing catalogue said we would.
My guess is Lily, which leads to the next question, why isn't James with her? Mmm.....
I'm not sure about the Muggle houses...I thought maybe that might be Hogwarts in silhouette...but I prefer it if they were houses!! Not that I want to see Muggles being attacked of course, but it'd be great to see some real action in the next book, eh? I can't wait to see Harry unleashing his full potential....
My guess is Lily, which leads to the next question, why isn't James with her? Mmm.....
I'm not sure about the Muggle houses...I thought maybe that might be Hogwarts in silhouette...but I prefer it if they were houses!! Not that I want to see Muggles being attacked of course, but it'd be great to see some real action in the next book, eh? I can't wait to see Harry unleashing his full potential....
I find it hard to believe that Lily would be there without James. And the Library Catalog rumors were debunked. It wasn't true. So, maybe we'll be learning more about Lily in this book, but not necessarily.
Has a dead person ever appeared in the artwork before? Post Mortem I mean. (Obviously Sirius has been on covers before.)
I find it awkward to believe it would be Lily because it doesn't seem to have a point. She'll never be a 'main' character in the books because of her death. Ginny made a HUGE jump in presence in Book 5 and Harry began to finally notice her on her own (not Ron's Little Sister!) It's normal for her to be there, she's unofficially joined the Trio along with Luna and Neville.
Lastly, look at the artwork on the Chamber of Secrets cover. Age the person appropriately (I realize that's hard for a cartoony looking character) and I think it's Ginny. She's grown up some since the last time we've seen artwork of her.
Regardless, we'll find out July 16 won't we?
Has a dead person ever appeared in the artwork before? Post Mortem I mean. (Obviously Sirius has been on covers before.)
I find it awkward to believe it would be Lily because it doesn't seem to have a point. She'll never be a 'main' character in the books because of her death. Ginny made a HUGE jump in presence in Book 5 and Harry began to finally notice her on her own (not Ron's Little Sister!) It's normal for her to be there, she's unofficially joined the Trio along with Luna and Neville.
Lastly, look at the artwork on the Chamber of Secrets cover. Age the person appropriately (I realize that's hard for a cartoony looking character) and I think it's Ginny. She's grown up some since the last time we've seen artwork of her.
Regardless, we'll find out July 16 won't we?
actually, I wouldn't be too shocked if it was Lily on the right, considering that I believe Harry and Dumbledore are looking into a pensieve. perhaps they spend a lengthy amount of time in someone's memory with Lily.
nevertheless, I am a lot more inclined to think it's Ginny. She played a much bigger part in OotP, she was there in the climactic battle near the end. It makes sense that she'd be on the other side, as she isn't part of the trio, but nevertheless, her role in this story is increasing enough to be pictured with them.
nevertheless, I am a lot more inclined to think it's Ginny. She played a much bigger part in OotP, she was there in the climactic battle near the end. It makes sense that she'd be on the other side, as she isn't part of the trio, but nevertheless, her role in this story is increasing enough to be pictured with them.
| QUOTE (Starchild71177 @ Mar 31 2005, 06:27 PM) |
| I find it hard to believe that Lily would be there without James. And the Library Catalog rumors were debunked. |
Were they? By whom? Where? If you can provide a link for that, I'd like to see it because as far as I knew, that rumour was still around.
I find it hard to believe that Lily would be there without James too, but then again, I think Lily is far more instrumental in Harry being who is with regard to his capabilities than James is...I mean, everyone is constantly banging on about Harry's eyes and how important the colour green is. Maybe it's something to do with his heritage on his mother's side. Just because she's dead, doesn't stop her being important. Didn't stop Jacob Marley in Christmas Carol, or Cathy in Wuthering Heights, or that little girl that I can't for the life of me remember the name of in The Lovely Bones.
I just don't see Ginny as being important for anything particularly. I don't deny she came alive a bit in OotP, but she's still background in comparison to the likes of Neville.
I dunno...maybe I'm just a little prejudiced about this because I've never really like any of the Weasley's other than Fred and George. I'd be disappointed if Ginny became a larger character than Luna, who I find far more interesting as characters go.
And yes, I'm sure we will find out on July 16th, but this place would be pretty boring if we didn't speculate about it in the meantime, now wouldn't it?
I think it is Lilly if you look closley she more in facal Features of an older woman. Ginny should look a little younger since she is 2 years younger than Ron. the girl has the look of a younger adult around her 20's
not to sure that Hogwarts it ethier wizards and or muggle houses.
not to sure that Hogwarts it ethier wizards and or muggle houses.
Actually, I was more concerned about why the dark mark was flying around them. The lady looks older than the other two, ginny would have been drawn younger. So I gather its Lily.
Has anyone pondered that it may be Luna Lovegood?
I thought Luna was blonde
http://www.the-leaky-cauldron.org/MTarchiv...2005_02_27.html
There's the link at Leaky, debunking the book synopsis in the Library Catalog. I think the date was February 28.
I still think it's Ginny. The "soft geometry" that Grand Pre uses doesn't make the figures precise.
In response to someone else's comments, maybe Dumbledore and Harry are looking into the pensieve regarding Ginny's memories of being possessed.
There's the link at Leaky, debunking the book synopsis in the Library Catalog. I think the date was February 28.
I still think it's Ginny. The "soft geometry" that Grand Pre uses doesn't make the figures precise.
In response to someone else's comments, maybe Dumbledore and Harry are looking into the pensieve regarding Ginny's memories of being possessed.
| QUOTE (Starchild71177 @ Apr 1 2005, 12:54 AM) |
| maybe Dumbledore and Harry are looking into the pensieve regarding Ginny's memories of being possessed. |
how can that be She is to young to have one let alone probaly afford one. I still say it is Lilly maybe thats why the cover is green. because of lilys eyes. maybe pleslive (if it is the penslieve) is Lillys (Ok far fecthed with that lol)
I don't think it's Ginny's pensieve, I wondered if they were looking at Ginny's memories.
And yes, whomever questioned it, Speculation is a blast. I love it.
And yes, whomever questioned it, Speculation is a blast. I love it.
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| or that little girl that I can't for the life of me remember the name of in The Lovely Bones. |
Suzzie Salmon (I might have spelt that wrong, but it was her name)
And well, I'd say it's more likely to be Lily... I see her as being a more important character than I see Ginny to be, though I obviously wouldn't rule her out.
The drawing definetely looks older to me than the others, but Ron looks a lot older than I would assume him to as well... so I guess it's definetely still a possibility.
I figure that it'll be muggle houses as well in the background there, but I hadn't actually noticed them before... so thanks
There is ALSO the shippeing question (Dana, I can see you eyes rolling at this, ands you muttering "Of course HE is the one to bring THAT up...")
to bring forward. R/Hr is grouped together, as a pair, as harry usually registers (as we've seen countless times in the book.
wheras Ginny (if ginny) is alone. WHY? well, I don't know, but, I THINK you kow where I'm pointing to...
~Esrb99~
to bring forward. R/Hr is grouped together, as a pair, as harry usually registers (as we've seen countless times in the book.
wheras Ginny (if ginny) is alone. WHY? well, I don't know, but, I THINK you kow where I'm pointing to...
~Esrb99~
AAARRRGGGHHHH!!!! **runs round room tearing great clumps of hair out**
**sighs** **calms down**
Ah, Esrb....yes, mate...I kind of wondered when someone would pass comment on that.... And guess what!! I have an answer all ready lined up for ya!!
Of course Hermione and Ron will be standing together....they're his freinds, they're part of the trio....if Harry is central to the plot - as indeed he is...hence the names of the books...
- then he would be central to the image. Obviously, this woman, whoever she is (and I still say it's Lily - Luna has blonde hair and there isn't anyone else who has red hair other than Lily, and I think the girl looks too young for that) is important to the plot to warrant her being there so, it's logical that Hermione and Ron would be grouped on one side, this woman on the other.
Notice the Dark mark is above Ron and Hermione though? Not above the woman? Mmm....**winks**
**sighs** **calms down**
Ah, Esrb....yes, mate...I kind of wondered when someone would pass comment on that....
And guess what!! I have an answer all ready lined up for ya!! Of course Hermione and Ron will be standing together....they're his freinds, they're part of the trio....if Harry is central to the plot - as indeed he is...hence the names of the books...
- then he would be central to the image. Obviously, this woman, whoever she is (and I still say it's Lily - Luna has blonde hair and there isn't anyone else who has red hair other than Lily, and I think the girl looks too young for that) is important to the plot to warrant her being there so, it's logical that Hermione and Ron would be grouped on one side, this woman on the other.Notice the Dark mark is above Ron and Hermione though? Not above the woman? Mmm....**winks**
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| There's the link at Leaky, debunking the book synopsis in the Library Catalog. I think the date was February 28. |
Ah, right...thanks Starchild....I didn't know that. I'm kind of glad it isn't true really....I'd rather be completely clueless about the plot than be driven crazy with hints. I'm not normally so quick to believe rumours, but that one did sound quite reasonable...a lot more so than some of the others I've heard.
Ah well, I still say it's Lily....
hmmmm, i don't think the woman is Ginny, she does look older, but i don't think that it is lily neather, (i alway thought lily had blond hair, must be mestakon), but there is more chance that it is lily, or it could be a new characters, and she is relly important 
Dana, I'm suprised at you... thats all? I expected an awful thrashing... I'd better bring this up in the R/Hr v.s. H/Hr thread, and see what the others think.
*Shakes head*
~Esrb99~
*Shakes head*
~Esrb99~
I think the dark mark just shows us how evil and dark this book is going to be. I also think thats ginny on the side.
If i think right didnt jk say that the trio will be becoming more if a four from now on?
If i think right didnt jk say that the trio will be becoming more if a four from now on?
I'll add 2 cents more, the female redhead on the right appears to be shorter than either Ron or Hermione. We know from canon that Ginny is petite in stature. In defense of Lily, we don't know anything about her height. Even though they are seperated by the pillar, all 3 characters appear to be on the same approximate plane.
Also, I believe Lily's hair color is described as Auburn, which according to Dictionary.com is "A moderate reddish brown to brown." To me, the girl in the picture has very reddish/orange hair... Weasley hair. lol
Also, I believe Lily's hair color is described as Auburn, which according to Dictionary.com is "A moderate reddish brown to brown." To me, the girl in the picture has very reddish/orange hair... Weasley hair. lol
Auburn is a red-head, mate...I should know...being one... Anyone who has red hair will tell you that they far prefer 'auburn' to 'ginger'...**shudders** I mean, there are some people out there who have really copper-coloured hair and then there are those, like myself, who have softer redder tones that aren't quite as bright...that's auburn....it's still red, no matter which way you look at it. If Lily's hair is described as auburn and Ginny's hair is described as red, then I'd say they're both the similar sort of colour. It's just different words for the same thing.
You know, this might not even be resolved when the book comes out, if both Lily and Ginny are in it for more than a paragraph... We'll still be arguing about it....I reckon there's only one thing for it...we'll have to write to Mary and ask her..
Anyone who has red hair will tell you that they far prefer 'auburn' to 'ginger'...**shudders** I mean, there are some people out there who have really copper-coloured hair and then there are those, like myself, who have softer redder tones that aren't quite as bright...that's auburn....it's still red, no matter which way you look at it. If Lily's hair is described as auburn and Ginny's hair is described as red, then I'd say they're both the similar sort of colour. It's just different words for the same thing. You know, this might not even be resolved when the book comes out, if both Lily and Ginny are in it for more than a paragraph...
We'll still be arguing about it....I reckon there's only one thing for it...we'll have to write to Mary and ask her..
OK, Im sorry but i haven't read ALL the posts here, so if anyone has mentioned this sorry 'bout that...
It could be that they were looking in the pensive and seeing the night Lily and James were murdered, it would make sense that only Lily is there because if i remember corectly, James was downstairs trying to stop Voldie from going up to Lily and Harry... That would also explain the Green "Light" coming form the pensive...
And about the Dark Mark... It could be hovering over Hermione and Ron... So maybe one of them dies(I hope not)... JKR did say that "She would kill more people"...
Well.. Just my impression of the thingy...¨
- Fawkes
It could be that they were looking in the pensive and seeing the night Lily and James were murdered, it would make sense that only Lily is there because if i remember corectly, James was downstairs trying to stop Voldie from going up to Lily and Harry... That would also explain the Green "Light" coming form the pensive...
And about the Dark Mark... It could be hovering over Hermione and Ron... So maybe one of them dies(I hope not)... JKR did say that "She would kill more people"...
Well.. Just my impression of the thingy...¨
- Fawkes
I know I'm grasping at straws with the redhead comment (BTW I'm Auburn haired too, but mine is rather brownish-red) regardless, you're right, we'll have to wait. I won't be able to participate in the chat tonight, so I really look forward to the transcript!
this has been reported on Mugglenet..i dont know if it was before this or not but on theirs it stated it was in fact ginny so i dont know if they got it from a source or if it just their humble opinion...but i believe it is ginny also because it just makes more sence to have a living person on the cover unless the book is somewhat centered around Lily instead of Ginny...but only time will tell..
I agree with the people saying it's ginny. also, quick kudos to the Sugar Quill who mentioned that on the cover art it looked as if Harry and dumbledore are raised up. There is now more evidence saying that. Also, we don't know for sure that they're looking into pensieve. It might have nothing to do with that.
And a coincidence? JKR said his eye color would be important in the books to come.....and now HBP cover is....green.
And a coincidence? JKR said his eye color would be important in the books to come.....and now HBP cover is....green.
I remember Mr. Weasley's explanation of what the Dark Mark signified to magic community in GoF.
I'm going to agree with Olivers observation
I'm going to agree with Olivers observation
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| I think the dark mark just shows us how evil and dark this book is going to be. |
In my opinion (which is partly driven by wishful thinking) that it's just the artists rendition of the world that the 6th book takes place. Although I don't doubt the probability that some beloved characters are about to meet their demise in the next two books it's difficult to interpret the front cover when I haven't read the book yet.
It's placement above what appears to be Ron and Hermione doesn't have to be the foreshadowing to one or both croaking in the book(s).
As for the red headed female on the right of the pillar I can't really decided whether or not it's Ginny. Since Lilly is dead I would assume that it's Ginny.
mmmk i know it was on April Fool's Day and it was just a joke, but on Mugglenet.com they have this countdown on their front page that says "so and so days till hbp etc etc." and they changed it to the "so and so days till the Pilar of Storge", which was a rumor of what the title could be....and i might be wrong, but like the same exact girl in question had an arrow pointing to her saying "storge".....so i dont think its lily and i dont think its ginny i think its a new character....oh yeah....what is a pilar of storge? is that off topic?
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