Just wondering what will happen to Dumbledore. Forgive the analogy to LOTR, Dumbledore seems a bit like Gandalf, as in. His whole purpose in his life up to now has been the destruction of Voldemort, must like Gandalf to Sauron. Everything he does is aimed towards this final goal, so what will happen when it is finally completed, or failed? Will he simply fade off into a distant country(like Gandalf)? I think that Dumbledore will die in book 7, before Harry and Voldemort have their final battle. Any thoughts?

It does sound like something DD would do, specially if it meant saving Harry, and therefore allowing him to kill LV and save the rest of the magical and Muggle world. I do have a feeling that he will die, too, even if I don´t want him to...

Oh, I really hope that Dumbledore doesn't die, but I also have a freeling that he will. He might even die and somehow be able to give Harry some protection, or even help him to use his powers that 'the Dark Lord knows not'. Just a thought, but ya I think he'll die.

I believe that dumbledore is evil cuz he gave him up to the Dursley's
among other things

Yea but he had legitimate reasons for sending harry to the dursleys.

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Excuse me but i didn't say that DD was evil.....

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Well, i`ve heard that DD may die in the sixth book. I also heard that life will become though for the trio. This may be because DD will die and Voldemort may try to take over hogwarts or something.

remember what dumbledore in Ootp "there are things much worse than death" maybe voldemort wont die but something else could happen to him but sadly im afraid to say that i think dumbledore will die maybe dumbedore will die in the sixth book and they bury him in the mystical graveyard or something.

to mods: sorry if i have gone a bit off topic here but i found no where else to put this

i haven't hears any rumours of what happens to dumbledore, but think thats fantastic, it's makes it more of a suprise!! w00tw00t!

anyway my point.. i think dumbledore will die before the series ends, when?? no idea, but it makes sense for him to die. there is complete known fact that DD gives people hope that they can win the war. take that away and what happens? fear, no hope and harry is alone, he has no one to help or protect him. just think what a story that will be! i know it's cruel and harsh, but hp is cruel and harsh!

Hmm... I think that Dumbledore will already be dead by the beginning of Book Seven, for reasons that I began railing about the second day I was a member of the forums (see this thread). I think this is a good place to ask a question that I've been wondering about for a while, though -- assuming that Dumbledore is dead, could he continue to communicate with Harry and give advice to him as a portrait? If it were possible for *every* portrait to communicate with the living, you'd think that everyone would have a picture painted of themselves before they died, so they could continue to help/advise people who they knew while they were alive. The portraits are kind of weird things... I mean, why wouldn't Sirius have had one painted (to our knowledge)? He knew about the powers of the portraits, he knew about the risky nature of his life (i.e. he was aware of the possibility of death) and surely would not *want* to leave Harry and others without a portrait-preservation of himself, and he definitely had the money for one. Maybe there's some sort of a catch with portraits, if you know what I mean. Maybe they aren't as powerful as you'd think they are, despite the fact that they can talk to the living (in a sense).

I'm not glad about saying this but I also think that Dumbledore will be the one who dies. In Denmark (where i live) there has been an article in the local newspaper about who people think will die. And nealy everyone thought it was Dumbledore. But I think that he's maybe already dead in book 7 because then Harry has to stand up against Voldemort without any protection or help. I don't hope that I'm guessing correct because I've always liked Dumbledore...[COLOR=blue][SIZE=1][FONT=Times]

Well, dumbledore knew that only harry could defeat voldy, so dumbledore wouldn't bother. Plus, i hate to ruin it for you all, but ive heard a rumour that he dies in book 6. Another thing that annoys me about him, PS, he sees himself in the fancy mirror holding socks. You would think that the greatest wizard of the age would have a much deeper desire that some new socks, its weird.
Graeme

If Dumbledore has to die, I think it'll be in book 7. Hogwarts will not last a whole year without Dumbledore! And for those who think he's evil... well thats a little farfetched... and that was a huge understatement.

Actually, stop the presses, Dumbldore will betray harry, he is evil. Think about it, he just appears to know [I] everyting [I/] he is evil, check out my poll, i cant find it though

I actually think that Dumbledore dies at the end of book 6 by the half blood princes hands, well his wand anyways. I think that Draco's secret mission mentioned at the very start of the book is to kill Dumbledore, but malfoy doesn't do it, but HBP does it instead, reluctantly

Vladim, do you think we can't see the date that you wrote this!?!
You have obviously FINISHED HBP and know that happens! DUH

It's not NICE to try and fool Harry Potter fans!

Dumbledore will still be there, but in 2 dimensional format...

Remember, all the Headmasters of Hogwarts have animated portraits in the Headmaster's office. Dumbledore will be no different.

He can still help Harry from there, I think.

Aberforth Dumbledore, that is. Apparently, he's been hanging out at Hog's Head ... but we don't know what his real purpose is. His name has been dropped enough times so that, like Regulus (A?) Black, we have to wonder whether or not he'll put in an appearance. Perhaps he was in Ravenclaw, and will help with finding the (theorized) Ravenclaw horcrux?

That would be cool.

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Aberforth taking more of a role in the book would be really interesting. He seems quite as eccentric as his brother! It's very plausible that he might have some information on Horcruxes... he hasn't been a big character at all, and I for one would like to see him share a bit of spotlight (even if he did do weird things to a goat?) =)

Probably. Recall Obi-wan Kenobi's return following his "death" in the Star Wars trilogy and Gandalf's return following his "death" in the Lord of the Rings trilogy. I suspect we will something similar from Dumbledore. I cannot help but suspect Dumbledore's death at Snape's hands was planned.

i think that we will see him in the 7th book, but only in his picture frame. i think that it would be cool for him to come back.

I hope we do meet him in Book Seven. I've been wondering what he's actually like for ages. Rowling said that Book Seven will feature heavily a couple of characters that we've been introduced to, but don't know much about yet. I think that he could well be one of them.

I also think (...hope) that Aberforth will be in book 7. I think, at the very least, he might provide some comic relief since he does sound like an eccentric character. But perhaps he could also give Harry some valuable information about Dumbledore's past. Also, since the prophecy was made in Hog's Head, where Aberforth is the barman, he might be able to elaborate more about what exactly happened before and after the prophecy was made.

he could be there as a ghost

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I like the idea of another Dumbledore running around. I hope he's in the last book, but I doubt he will play much more of a role than comic relief. But he was in the Order, so maybe he will be important? I don't know.

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Doesn't anyone remember the phoenix that may or may not have flown out of the fire at dumbledores funeral? and the fact that his patronus is a phoenix? i think people's animagus form is the same as their patronus; and what happens to a phoenix when it dies? of course we don't have any idea of the extent to which a wizard becomes their inner animal, but i think it's interesting to think about! don't forget azlan either, so it's a bit of a tradition, maybe, to bring back the wise guide.

harry might nick dd portrait from his office and use that as his wise guide. so there would still be an element of dd in the 7th book. or he could use a chocolate frog card.

Something else to consider, I only just remembered: Aberforth is the Barman of the Hog's Head, right? That was confirmed by JKR, that site said. And he happened to be with Mundungus, in HBP, just before Harry caught him in Hogsmeade. What if Mundungus was selling the Locket to him? That would give Harry a very good reason to go visit him!

I always thought that Alberforth wasn't quite right in the head; didn't Dumbledore say that he doesn't think the Alberforth didn't know how to read? Maybe he didn't go to Hogwarts/is a Squib.

I believe in Aberforth! I just think he hasn't shown his true potential yet. It seems to me as if he and Albus were estranged somewhat, but perhaps that wasn't the case at all- maybe we were just never exposed to their true attitudes towards each other as brothers. I think Aberforth and his relationship with Albus will come more into the open in the last book- (if Aberforth knew anything about Horcruxes, Voldemort; if Albus ever filled him in, so to speak.) As for "we don't know if Aberforth can read", perhaps Albus was trying to conceal the true importance and possible intellect of his brother by making him appear very stupid and trivial.

i don't think it says anywhere that aberforth was the barman at hogs head...

i don't think aberforth is a good guy cuz he can't even read

i also think albus dumbledore will be in the seventh book through is pictures

I think the reason for that is Jo has been trying to downplay Aberforth's importance. If she doesn't repeatedly mention "Aberforth, Dumbledore's brother, and barman at The Hog's Head Inn", we'll just assume he's unimportant, and won't waste much thought on him.
What I think is going to happen is that, if he does take more of a role in the 7th book, a lot of people will be smacking themselves in the head and saying, "He's been in the books all along, but I never paid any attention to him!" Let's face it, he hasn't exactly been portrayed as the most significant character, nor an equal to his fascinating brother.
Believe us, Aberforth is the barman. I couldn't even remember how I knew that, either, but I really do know that it's him.
---Gin

I think it's been established that Dumbledore dies via Snape at the end of HBP; however, did anyone notice that his portrait didn't talk to anyone? Portraits and pictures of living people don't talk, so is that a coincidence?

To shoot myself down, Rowling sometimes doesn't like to introduce things at the end of the books (Harry, for example, couldn't see the flying horses at the end of GOF). She may just be saving the Dumbledore portrait.

Alright this is just one of my crazy wishfull thinkings but what if dumbeldor has found a way to bind his soul to the earth in a far purer seense than a horcrux can provide and when he dies he goes in search of a lost soul who has the right intensions and passes on his essence. this new dumbeldor would be stronger and faster and a far greater threat to voldemort .... but it probably won't happen, because if it did harry wouldn't come into his own kill voldemort and generaly rid the world of evil.

Of course you've read the books. I never said you hadn't. I was referring to the pages that those links lead to, not the books themselves - the one with all the well thought-out, conclusive evidence; and the interview, where she virtually said that Aberforth was the barman.

"Ooh—you are getting good ... I was quite proud of that clue ... I like the goat clue—I sniggered to myself about that one."

What do you suppose that means, if not that Aberforth is indeed the barman? What in the hell else could it mean?

No, she didn't say: "Let it be known: Aberforth Dumbledore is the barman of the Hog's Head," but what she did say, was telling enough - if you have the wits about you to understand how people tend to speak under pressure. She did the only thing she could do to answer that question. Ironically enough, she praised the questioner for their sound knowledge of the text. So yes, we can definitely take that as a confirmation, it is every bit as concrete. Are you honestly going to tell me that you don't think Aberforth is the barman, given that interview I posted?

And, as for not understanding the books - maybe if you made an effort to understand the simplest elements of logic and common sense, I wouldn't need to be rude. Thank you.

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