Maybe it's because i'm such a huge Ron fan but it's getting annoying that they're making Ron out to be some wimp who tags along with Harry and Hermione and Hermione and Harry are 'The main heros', and that's just not the case. Another thing is that Hermione/Emma keeps stealing Rons/Rupert's lines! Ron was the one that was suppose to say 'If you want to kill Harry you'll have to kill us too' but they changed it to Hermione. I know maybe it was easier, but it's some of Ron's best lines and it's not bringing Ron out as a character. Maybe i'm just rambiling on lol, but don't you think they're going a bit over the top with Hermione? I mean I know she's suppose to be brilliant and everything, but gee, let Ron have some lime light awell!

I agree with you that Hermione's character was indeed somewhat built up throughout the "Prisoner of Azkaban" movie at Ron's expense. Both Ron and Hermione exhibit tremendous loyalty to Harry in the books, and I do feel that Ron was a bit short-changed in the film. I've got loads of objections about the third movie, which you will undoubtedly run across in other threads, but admittedly, part of the apparent "decline of Ron" has to do with J.K. Rowling's plot and wasn't the fault of the director (if we are determined to pin blame, as I usually am ).

Ron wasn't part of a lot of the main action of the "Prisoner of Azkaban" book, and as we all know from watching three of the Harry Potter movies, the directors have a tendency to cut everything that is not main action. (This isn't entirely their fault, either! I'm trying to ward off all of the third film-defenders in advance because this is supposed to be a pro-PoA post. ) Due to her obviously crucial role in the whole Time-Turner sequence, Hermione was a very important character. She also has a lot of her good-little-girl-comes-out-of-her-shell-and-rebels moments in the "Prisoner of Azkaban" book (e.g. punching Malfoy, walking out of Trelawney's class, etc.), which the audience (including myself) loves and therefore end up in the final screenplay. Ron, unfortunately, does have a smaller role in the "Prisoner of Azkaban" book as well as in the movie (which greatly saddens me as well, because I too like Ron as much as it is possible to like a fictional character ).

You have to look at the other movies as well. Excluding the semi-peripheral member of the trio is not a new thing associated with either "Prisoner of Azkaban" or Cuaron. Columbus did the exact same thing with Hermione in "Chamber of Secrets." I mean, how could he have made her into a huge part if she was stuck in the hospital wing either petrified or as a cat throughout the majority of the plot? The same thing goes for Ron in "Prisoner of Azkaban." If you break your leg in the Shrieking Shack, you're probably going to get shafted in the Time-Turner sequence.

Now, I remember feeling the same way about the diminishing of Ron's character while watching the "Prisoner of Azkaban" movie for the first time, but I haven't watched the movie in over a week ( ) so I might have to brush up on some of the finer points again. If your post is referring to other things in addition to the scenes of the book in which Ron is clearly absent, just remind me and I can assure you that I'll get back into my "anti-PoA mode" very quickly! I really love ranting about the third movie...

Lol, yeah i agree with you!
I know she would of had a bigger part, but I just hope they make Ron's character shine through and make him the character he is in the books. I guess i'm just dissapointed how they cut out the Hermione/Ron/Harry fight about scabbers and Crookshanks and even Harry fell out with Hermione. It would of given Ron a bigger part, but i guess it's just the time wise for the movies.
I like the PoA movie, but i don't like the ending that much. I didn't even realise it had finished when he got the Firebolt and went flying in the sky! It didn't seem to seem like the ending if you know what i mean lol.
But I know not all of this has to do with the director. He was a good one and the film was good.

I pretty like Ron in the books. But he`s always whining in the movies. Once someone told he`s always whining i only see that in the movie.

yeah, i totally agree !!

they are making Ron to be someone stupid, brainless, reckless....

i suppose it'll make the movie more funny... but that's not what they should do !!

and in the second movie, they tried to make hermione sounds like some really witty and clever... but.....they've made a great mistake !!

hermione said "fear of a name only increases fear of a person..." that's what dumbledore said.... but the main problem is that Hermione nerver say Voldemort's name until book 5 !!!!!! she just keep sayibg "you know who", as well..... honestly......

There's another topic floating around about Hermione's character so I hesitate to get sidetracked with her here.... but as that thread seems to be specific to the "Prisoner of Azkaban" movie... I'll try to stick to a short tangent... which indirectly applies to the main topic...

I agree! Where'd the humour go script writers?!

Ron seems to be lulling in the background nowadays!

It almost scarily seems as if Hermione and Ron have swapped roles! Hermione is much more 'out there' and risk-taking lately, however Ron seems quieter.

Its all because of the directors interpretation of the books. To be honest, Hermione does play more of a role than Ron does in the book, which may be why he seems to be more in the "background" of PoA. But to be honest, he played the same, if not more of a role than hermione did in PS/SS and CoS, and again in GoF and OotP.

Yeah... I must agree!

I started to notice it in CoS where Hermione told Harry about hearing voices in wizarding world. But in fact, it was Ron who said those lines! And in PoA, there is the Time- Turner for Hermione to be the star but she still... well... steal Ron's (Rupert's) lines in the Shrieking Shack. That's so sad.

I've noticed that before, but I think all of you are kind of being melodramatic about it. It's not so emphasized, is it?

When we talk about stealing... maybe not lines, but... if you watched the movie "The Neverending Story", the look of the Slytherin sign in the Chamber of Secrets movie (this round shape with snakes inside) is totally stolen from the "Neverending Story" locket, the Aurin. I'm sorry for being a bit off-topic but I didn't know where to put this thought.

I'm with you in this. I did not realy pay attention to the shift of power from Ron to Her. I always found Ron to be way to winpy in the movies compare to the books. But one thing that I guess the got prety good is his misundertanding of the female mind

Well have to admit that I'm at a lost in this respect

Oh yes, this is a topic I'm extremely passionate about. I am extremly angry that they keep giving Hermione all of Ron's lines, trying to make her more important, but she's not! They don't give Ron any credit whatsoever. They act like Hermione's all brave and better, and Ron's a whimp. When actually, Ron is very loyal and brave, and Hermione's rather easily frightened. They were doing just what I was afraid of- building up the female character so to set up her and the hero for a relationship, while shoving the sidekick aside. But, that didn't happen in the books! So now, they've got a ton of build up that was wrong in the first place that will end up leading to nothing because they were so sure that was what was going to happen, they didn't bother to wait for the plot to develop! *catches breath* Okay, got a little worked up there.* I'm not a Hermione hater, although I may sound like one.

Hmm, they seem to make Ron to be scared of everything, and in the PoA he was almost none existant which make me quite upset. Actually in all the movies i found the charcter of Ron to be a background tag along fellow. Which makes slightly upset since Ron is my favorite character. I am sure though his parts are going to be bigger in GoF and the OofP

It seems to me that they are making Ron the comic reliefe in the movies, at the expense of the sincerity to his character in the book. And, if I remember correctly, Harry and Ron are fighting through most of GoF so we will probably be seeing even less of Ron in the comming movie.

i see what you mean although i dont think they overdid hermiones part. you heve to remember that the movies are based on the books. they dont have to be the exact same. i do realise that rons part is getting smaller and smaller and less important but just remember hes going to join the quidditch team and be in all the games and practices. maybe the producers will realise about how theyve made his part smaller and make him have an equal part to hermione?

hmm I didn't know this about the films. I wander how Rupert Grint if taking it. You know actors can get nasty about stolen lines. lol

I guess I can kind of see where you're coming from with this. Ron's character does seem a little undeveloped at times in the movies, and it could be because of the line-cutting. Sometimes all I felt he really did was complain and argue with Hermoine, and this could totally be the script writer's fault. Hopefully they will trump Ron's character up a bit more in the future movies.

In POA they make ron look as if he was always scared and always whining.I don't think it's done on purpose,but i don't like it.They do give him smaller roles,even though i think he is just as important as hermione.I hope he doesn't seem this way in OotP.

I agree mate, I agree.. I have no clue why they changed that, it was perfectly fine, maybe because he couldnt stand up and say that because of his leg. I think Hermione gets the spotlight to much. Ron is noticed little and I think that needs to change because he is not a wimp.

This is something that has annoyed me for a long time. In the first and second movie Ron wasn't too bad. He got credit for sacrificing himself on the giant chess board, going into the forest though he hated spiders, into the chamber... That kind of thing. But in the third and fourth they do make him out to be a complete wuss when he's really not! Ron can be funny but why do they always have to laugh AT him?
Let's hope he does something good in the next movie.

As for the Hermione overshadowing him, yes maybe she does a little... but that's only because of what they are turning Ron's character into. I love Hermione, she is an amazing and clever witch, her shining through in the films is bound to happen. It's rare that a girl sidekick character has such personality and talent.

I suppose they needed a big role for the girl to match the big role for Harry but where does
Ginny come in? If they are not careful the movies will be based on Fan Fiction, not the books.

It's hard to know what scenes will be in the new movie and I realize they have to worry about running time but I agree that Ron is getting the short end of the stick.

yes ive noticed this too....since ron is one of my fav characters, i wish theyd give him some more lines! but he seems to have a pretty good part in the fifth movie (from what ive seen and heard) and in the sixth one, if its anything like the book- which we can never be certain about- then he should be well off. I think the reason why hermione gets so many more lines is because....welll.....has anyone else realized that she is a whole lot cooler in the movies than she is in the books? the only movie that she was REALLY bossy and know-it-all-y and annoying was the first one, and that changed probably half-way through. since shes so much cooler, they need to give her cooler lines, which is where i think the whole stealing from ron thing happens. but what they need to remember is that ron is cool too!

Yes yes yes! Someone agrees with me! I've been wondering about that and why on earth do they change it? It's not making a difference to the story and if anything, it's just going to make people angry by changing it in the first place!

The main one was "If you want to kill Harry, you'll have to kill us to!"

Ron Ron Ron! He says that!

i think its coz then rons comic stands out more than if he was regulary talking
or maybe the directors just think emma has a sexy voice lol it does bug me tho coz now emma has more limelight andhe doesnt get as much recognition as her awards wise

I absolutely hate what they have done to Ron in the movies. I love Rupert Grint as Ron, it's just the way he's written that I hate. They make him seem like a sidekick that just tags along after the REAL heroes Harry and Hermione. They make him seem like a right jerk especially in POA and GOF.

Ron defended Hermione when Snape made that nasty comment about her in POA book but in the POA movie. He agrees with Snape.

Not to mention that infamous line 'If you want to kill Harry, you'll have to kill us too' that was a moment in the book where it truly defined Ron for me. But they gave it to Hermione. Hermione gets all the best lines even though they belong to other characters like Dumbledore's 'Fear the name increases the fear of thing itself'

Also I don't like the way they portray Hermione in the movies, she's just not Hermione for me, she was in the first two movies, with the bushy brown hair, the snobbiness but deep down caring about Ron and Harry.

But in POA, they turned her into SUPERGIRL, the comforting best friend and not leaving any room for Ron who just makes snide remarks.

I think when they let Harry and Hermione shine so to speak it is for the intent of bringing out the comic side of Ron which is definitely something I can relate to. A movie could always use some good humor even if its at the expense of a main character in my book.