Here you go then guys - a brand new shiny thread for:-

RON/HERMIONE SHIPPERS ONLY.

(I don't think I could have made that any clearer )

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Okay...nasty stuff out of the way...carry on....

Ron/Hermione huh?
Before I started reading fanfiction, I would of said their were no signs of any ships happening between the main character, but after looking at evidence in the debate forum and fanfiction, this ship has a lot of contextual evidence supporting it compared to the H/Hr. By that account, this ship looks pretty likely to happen in the sixth and seventh books.

Have fun supporting your favorite ship!

Wishing you more supporters,
Soumnek

My posting here is more an appeal than listing support:
What do we want to see in Ron/Hermione relationship?
What proof do we want to see if it turns out that they are already a couple since the beginning of OOP?

I try to convince myself that they are still not quite a couple. However, I cannot answer myself convincingly if they already are.

Hermione spent her summer with Ron, instead of with her parents. Being a sole daughter, it must not be easy. Also, she spent the summer defying an invitation from a romantic suitor, Viktor Krum, who asked her to visit him for the summer. Why would she stay with Ron, if she wants to keep her option open?
Is staying together (although not alone) a strong indication that they are a couple?

Do we want to see them kissing in front of Harry to be convinced?
Will they do that? Based on their personalities, they wouldn't do it openly. Percy, Ron's brother, and his girlfriend, Penelope, make out in empty classrooms, using their privileges as prefects. Ron and Hermione have the same privileges. Hermione is as discipline as Percy, although not with the same ambition. Ron learned how Ginny could find out about Percy's secret dates. If they want to do the same thing as Percy and Penelope, they can be better prepared, so Harry and the readers will never know.

Do we want to see them saying "I love you" loudly? or holding hands all the way? Will they do those in public?
With this dilemma, I am afraid we can only know when they announce their wedding date, unless Jo can find a better solution. I'm sure she can.

I would definately want to see hermione and ron KISS. They would make a really good couple. I think that the weasley family would except hermione a lot. but i think that harry would feel left out. A realtionship between ron and hermione could also create a really big disagreement. Maybe they should just stay friends.

Hey this is my first post!
OK well i'm a R/Hr shipper as i think the sexual tension thing going on is very like the way crushes are usually shown with romance as a sub plot. I also think that the successful couples shown to us ie. Mr and Mrs Weasley have the same sort of relationship to each other.
As for what i want out of a R/hr relationship i think i would probably be happy with Ron and Hermione telling Harry and then us just to see them being closer etc. I wouldn't really want them kissing infront of Harry all the time. [FONT=Arial][SIZE=1]

hi this is my first post here
im a r/hr shipper. it would be cool to see them kiss even though it would be through harry's eyes. maybe he will be coming back from somewhere under his invisibility cloak. i wonder if ron will tell harry about his feelings towards hermione. this i one time i feel like wishing jk made hp boooks in multiple pov...

this is also my first post here. its so cool to find that other people love ron and hermione too and also other shippers! well i love ron and hermione. i mean look at them, they're just perfect for eachother. now i thnk that they are simply adorable for eachother. i mean it really puts that old saying, you always hurt the one you love. because even though they tease and argure eachother constantly i think its their secret way of letting eachother know that they like eachother more than a friend, but like J.K. Rowling said theres something between them so i think i know what she means by that. anyways thats only my opinion on it.

Yes! What is a romance in the story without a kiss or two? Even all major G-rated (for all ages) fairy tales have kisses. Speaking about the kiss (of course I mean when Hermione kissed Ron), I found several peculiarities:

1. Harry was not surprised.
Harry did not comment that this is the first time Hermione did it to Ron. Harry did not look astonished. He casually noted the kiss, Ron's reactions and then concentrated to look at Slytherin's badges.
It seems that for Harry the kiss is Not Unexpected.
Harry was not jealous. That's one of the main obstacle for H/Hr.
Harry was going to play together with Ron, but Ron got the kiss and Hermione's attention ("don't let Ron see the Slytherin badges"). Yes, Harry has big self-confidence in his ability in Quidditch, but he also didn't have any romantic feeling for Hermione at all!

2. The students were not surprised.
Either Harry was too busy looking at the Slytherin badges that he failed to notice, or there was nothing to notice: The students did not seem surprised by the kiss. I wonder how many boys got kissed in the dining hall, but even the Slytherin did not make any jokes on this.
Hermione might have done it very quickly, but it was not in a hurry. Ginny's reaction was not shown, assuming nothing special. We know that Hermione always sat next to Ron almost everywhere, whereas Harry sat on the other side of Ron, hence, in the order of Harry, Ron and Hermione as Jo always writes them. Maybe the students already saw things that Harry did not elaborate for the readers.

3. Ron was not jumping over the roof.
Ron was not blushed or beside himself. He only slightly came to himself and he looked puzzled. Not quite a reaction for someone who got kissed the first time.
I guess Ron looked puzzled because Hermione kissed him in public. That's the last thing he would expect her to do, especially in full view of many students and teachers. Even Pansy Parkinson was never seen (by Harry) kissing Draco Malfoy.
The effect on Ron is not great, as the readers (Ron's fans) may hope. He only slightly came to himself. The "shocking for readers" kiss does not do much. Does Ron still love Hermione? Yes. In the later chapter, he was still jealous at Krum, for example. So why didn't the kiss produce much effect? Perhaps, because he already received some of them! He likes it, but it is not very special. It can be speculated that a kiss on the lip may be much better, but that's out-of-character for Hermione, and Ron, and Jo Rowling at this phase.

Conclusion: Hermione's kiss to Ron actually reveals something that the readers cannot comprehend by just following Harry's eyes, narration and interpretation. Hermione and Ron may already start the romance, only they did it not in demonstrative way. They have plenty of opportunity to exchange casual kisses, which Harry cannot witness. Prefect duties, for example.

Why then did Hermione kiss Ron in public?
I think she wanted to counter the effect of Luna. In public, before the same audience, Luna demonstratively walked from Ravenclaw table to Gryffindors, to show her life-size, roaring Lionhead, and wish "Good luck, Ronald". Harry noted that people pointed and laughed at the head. Hermione was forced to show who Ron's girl is, so 10 minutes later she acted. She tiptoed and kissed Ron on the cheek saying the very similar words: "Good luck, Ron"
That's my opinion on the kiss.

Oh my god i pray tht they will hook up! Do you notice how they have been putting clues in the movie about the two of them that werent in the book! LIke in the third one hermione grabs rons hand when harry is going near Buckbeak. Or when they were at the Shrieking shack "Do you want to move closer?"<- Hermione "What???"<- Ron said kindof nervously. "To the shrieking shack i mean."<-Hermione "oh,"<-ROn

Glad to know that you are not put off by Ron's portrayal in the film. Good that the third film showed clearer clues than books.
Hope the fourth movie can give better visualization of the R/Hr romance.

Yeah, new thread, hello again Muggleview. I like the way Rupert portrays Ron, most people just look him over acting wise, I just think he needs to be changelled as an actor.
As for Ron and Hermione being together already, I just don't think they are yet. I think Hermione knows by now that Ron likes her. As for Harry(us) seeing it, it could over hear them fighting in the libary or something and stay in the stocks, waiting out there fight, but they kiss instead.

yay my first post ever and its in the r/hr topic go me
go r/hr woot woot yay

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Amyrat, I agree that Rupert is the right Ron. That impression sticks nicely in my imagination. I just don't like how Ron's lines in the books were not spoken by him.
I have found indications that Hermione was attracted to Ron, before Ron specifically was attracted to her. It started with special affection and then romantic feeling. Jo wrote as such that Hermione advanced earlier than Ron in this aspect. GOF showed how Hermione counted 3 years of waiting.
Anyway, what do you think of this part in COS:

Woo hoo new thread! I agree with you Amyrat151 and muggleview Rupert does need to be changelled as an actor, I also think he should have a more of a involved part. Im not saying that he doesn't do anything im just saying he should have more of his own moments.Like everyone else does.

hi...just responding to a post by Muggleview on April 27....

[/QUOTE]Speaking about the kiss (of course I mean when Hermione kissed Ron),

I actually belive that it will be Ron that kisses Hermione not the other way round... it makes more sense for Ron's character to kiss her first. He has to overcome his shyness and knowing Ron, he will probably end up kissing Hermione in the view of heaps of people, like in the Great Hall of something....

do you remember in Order after Gryffindor won the Quidditch Cup when Harry, Ron and Hermione are sitting under the tree and Ron is ruffling his hair up as he tells the story of how he saved the goal, and it reminds Harry of James from Snapes pensieve? (sorry for the lack of punctuation there lol) well this shows that Ron is similar to James. And in the Pesieve, Lily clearly doesnt like show-offs and bullies? does this sound familiar? to me it sounds just like Hermione. so with these two so similar to Lily and James Potter. there is every possible chance that by the end of book seven they wll have got together just like Lily and James did.

The scene that Mrs S Finnegan pointed out is actually the one that convinced me that Ron/Hermione will happen. It is clear that J.K. Rowling is trying to draw a parallel in that scene, particularly if you look at the precise wording:

Katie132, we share the same wish. Ron should take initiative. Hermione has been waiting for this and clearly showed her impatience by shooting "insensitive wart" and "emotional range of teaspoon".
Go, Ron, go: sweep her off the ground.

Anthony made an excellent point with parallel description. Apparently Jo likes to use this very much. So now we have Ron and Hermione being paralleled to: James and Lily (in term of their feud turning to love) or Arthur and Molly Weasley (in term of how they get each other into agreement). If some people cannot see how they get closer in book 5, there is hope they may see it in book 6 and 7.

i am definetly a huge supporter of the Ron and Hermione relationship....
Oohh...it just one of those little under currents that run throughout the background of the main story.... it is just so perfect...
And i really lilke the parallels that Anthony made between Lily and James with Ron and Hermione.. Very interesting and extremely valid... I completly agree with you.
JKR is clever and there is no way she could have 'accidently' made the two couples similar....

AS for the thing with Hermione and Ron kissing in front of Harry... i dont really understand it... Why would they have to kiss in front of him for his approval??? Is that what people mean when they are talking about it????
Harry is their friend...and i think he is more than aware of the way Ron and Hermione truly feel about each other... and because neither Ron or Hermione seem to be taking much direct initiative, just lots of little subtle suggestive actions, Harry has just let it go. He, like us, is probably anxious to see what will happen ....

Hello, first post!

I have been and always will be a Goodshipper! ^.^

Do we want to see them kissing in front of Harry to be convinced?
Will they do that?
I don't think they would, either. It's not the kind of thing you really do in front of people. I think that Harry is either going to have to "walk in" on them or that Ron's going to tell him about it.

Do we want to see them saying "I love you" loudly? or holding hands all the way? Will they do those in public?
I think they would probably hold hands at the beginning of their relationship, even in public. Whenever they get to "I love you," I don't think they'll say it around anyone. Granted, Ron might say something to Harry along the lines of "I love Hermione," but I'm not sure.

Allice :gasps with shook: you're posting on a shipping thread, when I don't believe you have before. And that sceen you point out, which no matter what makes me cry, just suck a sweet moment between them (Harry and Ron), is one of the things that gives me faith for there relationship(Ron and Hermione). Ron and Hermione parellel so many working relationships, and how they act. At first glance of Lily and James you see people who would never end up together, but they do.

This is not my favourite ship, but I do like it and I think it's the one that's most likely to be true. There are those out there who choose to ignore the very obvious signs. How can you? When asked who Hermione would end up with, JKR said, "Are you kidding? I've given you enough clues, haven't I?"
Well, those aren't her exact words, but that's basically the gist of it.
To me, that spells Ron. If it's not Ron, then JKR has an interesting interpretation of the word "clues".
No offense to JKR, of course. She is my God.

A brillant man named Joss Whedon is mine:), he made Buffy the Vampire Slayer. I'll be highly surpised if she's not spelling out Ron.

I figure I should probably comment on here, considering I AM a r/hr shipper...

okay...

yeah, parallel, I agree. I like Lily/James a lot and they faught like R/hr (except not as harsh)

Amyrat - I love that scene so much also! It's so sweet. I don't know, maybe it's my thing for the Marauders, but I always thought it was really nice....

anyway....

R/hr!.....

also, dont bash or flame; peace and happiness for all! And eat quick-to-make ramen....'Cause it's good....

Ok I'm gonna move on before I get too random

Hey, I'm new here. I've read many of the posts regarding ships, esp. R/H, and there doesn't seem to be anything new I can add.

All I can say is that I really like this couple, I don't think that they are secretly together, I do think that they need to get together and will, or at least reveal their feelings toward each other, hopefully sometime in book 6.

I'm sure R/H will happen too, because of the subtle hints in the books and because of JKR's comments in interviews.

I'm so excited for book 6, and I really hope that their relationship develops!

Yes, Lumos. I also believe that Ron and Hermione are already together. I can only guess on what level is their relationship now.
They are not yet shown holding hands in public. No liplocking. No public announcement. However, they are very comfortable being left alone. They can fill in their time playing chess. They can always bicker.
Since Harry was mad at their bickering, I think they bicker behind his back now.

i don't think they are a couple yet. but are most definitely like james and lily. and i really really wish ron would grow up a little to realize not only the feels he has for hermione, but also the feelings she has for him.

I'm not big on the Mauders, just the trio really. I've never thought that Ron and Hermione are together already, but I think that Ron will tell Harry about it.

lol, I can take a joke. Yeah I don't see a big romantic, first date, I think the most romantic thing they'll do is maybe take a moonlite walk around the grounds.

Yes, there is always the 7th year, as with James and Lily.
Who dared to say they are a pair in their
Jo is a clever businesswoman. If book 6 already reveals everything, some readers may not go to book 7.
I hope to see Ron and Hermione do only some obvious things in book 6, but not until the Ball at Book 7, their true feelings are declared.

Some there will be a Ball 7th year? Muggleview, what is your name, I feel quite silly calling you your sn.

Yeah, they won't. Hermione is a smart, un-girlyis girl. She's not the princess who gets saved, she's the one doing the saving. Ron would probaly have the same reaction to that tea shop as Harry did, which is think it's to much.

By a "divine" coincidence, my call name is Muggy, so I think Muggleview is a good sn to match it.

The Ball is viewed in the Mirror of Erised by some readers including me.

We hope there is a ball, because now Ron has a proper Robe and Hermione got the perfume, and Ron can ask her first!
Also, Jo indicated we will see Viktor again but not soon. Now book 6 is "soon", so it should be book 7. It's good to see the role is flipped: Ron will dance with Hermione while Viktor looks with narrowed eyes.

Has anyone ever wondered what Ron and Hermione actually did in the 12GP when Harry arrived?

oh no muggleview, i doubt they were making out. (or should i call it snogging here?) because harry WOULD hear noises

but hey, JKR did state she imagined ron and hermione doing that

(harry and hermione? no, ron and hermione, theres more tension there)

ya see?

Good point, Kipsy.
Hmm, why didn't I think about that earlier?

Anyway, I guess Ron and Hermione still have time to nourish their relationship steadily. At this moment (end of OOP), nobody threatens it. Why rushes in?
Ron still needs to be more romantic. The next Valentine day, he shouldn't meet Hermione with muddy clothes and grumpy face, but with smile and flower.
Hermione should encourage Ron more against Slytherins' insults. One kiss is not enough!

I think they were probaly talking, about whatever, I don't know, but no making out. Muggy, is a origanal name.

Yes, there are some possibilities. I just want to get R/Hr shipper to be aware of some hidden opportunities Jo placed in the OOP showing the development of the relationship.

Actually, they must have been talking in low voices, because Harry didn't hear a thing when he opened the door.

lmao!

What, you think they're going to have a snog session already?

That seems very unlikely. Although silent yoga, I must say, is a good choice.

Perhaps they were meditating, ya know, connecting with their inner selves

or MAYBE they were just waiting for Harry to get there!!!

anyway, is this topic really worth discussing?? It was obvious they were just waiting for Harry.

Okay, okay. We have enough fun by now with this topic.
Personally, I believe they were there waiting for Harry, as you said, Kipsy. They were probably waiting for the twins to lend them the Extended Ear. In order not to interfere with the reception, they have to be quiet. Or they might be quiet when they heard footsteps going upstairs and wonder who was coming.

Anyway, with Harry's presence in 12 GP, Ron and Hermione still had private time alone and Harry was all right with it.

Yes, Muggy, true, my confidence has been mounting lately. I just posted this long post on the debate thread, probaly my longest ever. Anyway, it's true, in OoP they seemed to bicker less, and get wonderfully closer.

Agreed, Ellen. By the way, your post is really good. I just post one to reiterate and reemphasize what you and Kipsy have said. Just build one explanation on those you two have laid down. When I read OoP, I was impressed the way Jo Rowling wrote the development of R/Hr without stirring the water. I disagree with those who said the relationship cooled down. I think they were trapped with their own eagerness to see the relationship moving faster: snogging, hand holding and clear activities. However, those only make the relationship only good on the surface. R/Hr have been building their relationship from within: trying to find compromises in life, respecting each other's opinion, being a teamplayer instead of bossing the other all the time (well, someone has to lead, but not one person all the time takes control. Each has to take turn).
In OOP, Ron and Hermione are recognized by Harry as "Ron and Hermione", as a unit. Since chapter one to the last chapter, that's how Harry addressed them in narration. He spoke to "Ron and Hermione", he asked advice from "Ron and Hermione", he picked "Ron and Hermione" from the library etc.
Ron and Hermione also regarded themselves as one unit. They work together as a team. Several times they actually make strategy to gain their goal. I believe Ron is the strategist here. When they want to say to Harry they stop arguing, Ron said first that Hermione wants Harry to know and then he agrees with Hermione's word. I believe Ron and Hermione already made that decision together (to stop bickering in front of Harry) and Ron strategically uses Hermione first then his opinion to convince Harry (and not let Harry feel isolated by the bond of the two).
In pressing Harry to teach DADA to DA, Hermione actually was less strategic. She blurted that it was both her and Ron's idea. However, Ron gave her threatened look to make Hermione revised the word into her idea, and then later Ron said he likes the idea. Again, Harry didn't feel the two bonding against him, although it's clear from the beginning that Ron and Hermione is of one mind about it.
More and more the usually know-it-all and stubborn Hermione appealed to Ron's advice, even at a time Ron refused to back her openly (the same as Arthur doesn't always back Molly). In the teaching Grawp English request, it is clear that Hermione relied on Ron's decision what to do. Somehow I got the impression of Jo Rowling as a conservative lady, "respect your man, and he will respect you". Hermione showed respect to Ron (not submission!) and Ron respected her and can give her guidance how to enjoy life (eating, sleeping, studying) including how to handle Harry, instead of just studying. Basically as Jo promised, Hermione was lightened up, and Jo uses Ron to do so. Harry's contribution is definitely absent, as Jo clearly meant so. I don't see ambiguity in this. All Harry's care to Hermione is just a schoolmate or close friend. Ron is the one getting deep into Hermione's private life. Well, he is her private life.
Okay, Kipsy, now I have too much dose of love, don't I?
Happy Mother's Day for you who celebrate it.

Hello, that's the first time I'm writing here... So, I'm really happy to see so many people wanting to see R-Hr together...

I'd say that it became obvious that Ron fell in love with Hermiony right from the second book - he's constantly showing his attention to her, which is becoming really visible in the Goblet of Fire, when he's so jelous of Victor Crum... He's asking Harry one night:"Why did she choose him? What did she find in him? Why am I worse then he?", he is always looking at how she reacts. trying to undurstand where is the problem she's not choosing him... In the 5-th book he's also showing that he really cares about her relationships with other boys - when after Harry tells about his first kiss with Cho, she says that "of course he isn't that bad at kissing" and Ron is immediately reacting:"How do you know?!"... Well, there is really much evidence he's in love with her...

However I don't think they're daiting already - ron definitely hasn't got enough courage to ask her... But once he will... I think he'll finally do this in the 6-th book.. I think he'll kiss her ferst somewhere when she will be in danger, or really upset or something like this - that will be definitely a very hard time for her... I'd say he's a person who is always doing something in a wrong way or in a wrong time, and perhaps this time will be something like this... And I suppose Hermiony will answer his feelings as she is definitely clever enough to have noticed how he's looking at her all the time...

In OOP, I was bothered with the continuous use of the term "Ron and Hermione". This is not yet a complete conclusion, but I hope to get inputs from fellow R/Hr shippers.
In Chapter 1, Harry faced the Dementor. He tried to conjure Patronus, but found that he needed a truly happy thought. What came up is the thought of "Ron and Hermione". First, he was sad that he may not be able to see them again, but then the thought of both of them appearing together enabled him to conjure a perfect patronus which drove 2 dementors away.
What happy thought is it? Would it be clearer if the word "and" is replaced with ampersand "&" ?
Harry thought of "Ron & Hermione" appearing together to be a very happy one, comparable to his thought of his parents. He was happy for them being together.
Thus, Harry acknowledge and cherish "Ron & Hermione" as a couple.

In Chapter 4, Harry arrived at 12 Grimmauld Place and was greeted with a "rib-crounching" hug by Mrs. Weasley. As she kept saying she was busy with the meeting, she told Harry to ask "Ron and Hermione" for information. She said the term twice, everytime Harry tried to ask her. Maybe it's a small matter, but if Ron and Hermione are not a couple, Mrs. Weasley would say things differently. She may tell Harry to ask Ron, because he is her son and Harry's best friend and will share bedroom with Harry. She may add "and Hermione is upstair as well." In the book she said that "Ron & Hermione" are upstairs and Harry should ask "Ron & Hermione" for information.

Again and again in OOP, Harry was on one side and "Ron & Hermione" on the other side of the arguments and positions. He found "Ron & Hermione" sitting in the common room or library.
Harry also normally sits next to "Ron & Hermione", on Ron's other side. Hermione was hardly ever sitting in the middle of the two boys in the whole HP series. She consciously places herself on one side of Ron, whereas Harry on the other side. The still picture of the classroom scene from GOF movie showed the sitting position exactly like that.

The way they behave as "Ron and Hermione" and are acknowledged by their peers as "Ron and Hermione" indicates that they are a couple. We don't know for sure on what level they are now: still probing each other's feelings or already moving to a higher level of understanding, without demonstrative romantic gestures like kissing or holding hands?

Well, I think Ron and Hermy are intuitively regarded as a couple by Harry, perhaps, he even doesn't realise this. JKR may be again playing that triks she likes very much - giving some tiny clues of what will come in future... But the amount of time they two spend together is really big, so... so I think we shall see everything in book 6... Perhaps Ron will try to discuss his 'love strategy' with Harry, or Harry will accidentally hear him speaking while sleaping... But I recon JKR won't miss the chance to show a bit of Ron's feelings and their attitudes with Hermy...

Yes, sooner or later, Jo has to leak out what happens during their time behind Harry's back. A more significant one than the previous ones: In SS, they learned spell together. In COS, they made polyjuice potion. In POA, they had the time of their lives in Hogsmeade. In GOF, they helped Harry finding the clues. In OOP they schemes and rehearses.

Which still is that Muggy? And speaking of, I love that one of Dan and Emma. Notice how I say Dan and Emma vs Harry and Hermione, I think sometimes people don't get into the habit of noticeing the differnce between actors and the character they play. Won't in be kinda funny if Dan and Emma got together well she would have to play romantic parts with Rupert?
Any way, I love the fact that Ron and Hermione were his Patronus, but for the fact that I'm the HEROES president for a reason. It reminds me of the quote on that avie I had forever, "You could never hope to graps the source of our power."
But I agree about the whole unit thing, and I would love to know what's going on well Harry's not there.