It seems the idea of Snape finally getting his wish and becoming the next DADA teacher is pretty popular so here ya go folks - a brand new shiny thread just for you!! I've locked and archived the original one (here it is) so all thoughts and comments about Snape as the new DADA teacher should henceforth be carried out here.

OMG just kidding. Yes i completly agree Snape will be the next DADA teacher it just makes since. Harry with an excellent on his OWLS will get into NEWT potions. DD having such a hard time filling the position. Snape being able to teach the students and make them weary of DE and Voldemort. Being able to hold the MoM at bay keep Hogwarts as normal as possible

No, in my opinion, Dumbledore will fill in for DADA for lack of a better teacher. Unless JK reveals to us why Dumbledore is restricting Snape from teaching, she will not write in Snape teaching it.

If its not Dumbledore, it will have to be a new character.


-Renasi

I'm sorry, but I don't really think that Snape will be DADA teacher. He's too peed off not getting it to get it. Or maybe I just like the idea of Snape kinda suffering.(I'm evil)

To me it makes sence that, don't forget all Proffessor Snape will fill the DADA position, but why didn't Dumbledore give proffessor Snape the DADA position in OoTP and then searched for a potion teacher? It would perhaps been easyer to find a potion teacher rather then a DADA teacher, the position is known to be cursed, right?

I don't think that DD will give it to him because Snape is a spy for DD and if Voldermort found out that he is teaching them how to defend against the dark arts, then Snape is no longer a spy.

that is a good thought but i tthink that it could be right as dd is cleaver

How would it be clever for DD to put in his only spy thats close to Voldermort if DD puts him as a teacher that defends against the Darkl Arts? That wouldn't be a clever move for DD.

This question also came up on the "Snape is the HBP theory" so I'll give an edited reponse of what I wrote there.

"As to the question of why Dumbledore has not given Snape the DADA teacher position, I feel that it is a combonation of two factors. Harry needs to learn and Snape is not ready due to his hatred of Harry. Snape will have to get over his petty vendeta with James Potter before he is ready to teach Harry DADA (or any other student) because it would, under present conditions, bring out the worst in Snape. I think we will find out all of Snape's secrets and have him develop more in HBP and he finally be the DADA teacher in Book 7."

As much as i love Snape (find him odly attractive) i dont think Dumbledore will let hi have this important job after all he isnt the best teacher and he may use his past to hurt other dtidents *cough Harry cough*

I just dont think how ever much Snape wants it he wont be DADA teacher

i actually think this is a very good idea, i was finding sooooo hard to think of a new defence teacher. i do think it's a good idea, however i was thinking jk would save it for the last book (i don't know ewhy?) but it's a very good idea! very good!

i dont think that he will become next dada teacher.....as he is the only best available teacher for potions (this may be one of the reasons why dumbledore rejects his application for dada teacher)....i think as usual someone new will be coming to teach DADA and he will be important charachter in HBP.....

but there probably is another reason why Snape wasnt chosen... i mean, it wouldve been so much easier to have given snape the DADA jobs for the past 5 years and get a new potions teacher, which im sure will have more applicants than the post for DADA... btw, why didnt Snape go to the department of mysteries? im confused - maybe i need to read the book again lol

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Good point . Remeber when Lupin was werewolfing away and Snape had to take the class? This shows that DD chose Snape above Flitwick or anyone else to take the class and makes him a good choice to fill the role. However I think he's been refused because of his Death Eater past and DD might think he will teach them the Dark Arts as Snape is fascinated by them instead of teaching them how to deal with it. I reckon that Snape will be the DADA teacher in book 7 though as it has sort of been building up to it over the series. I'm probaly wrong but what does it matter

I just thought of this a few hours ago and I'm finally writing it down. Why wouldn't DD just hire a new potions teacher and put snape as the DADA teacher? If you look at Snapes skill its Potions and curses and spells. Those curses and spells are not all good ones. If you look bak to when Harry sees Snapes past, Sirius said snape was always playing with his CHEMISTRY set. Chemistry = Potions.

three words man, NOT A CHANCE

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Here is the original quote from the Royal Albert Hall Q & A session in 2003:

dumbledore probably wont let snape have the job because his job is quite significant. why would he have employed snape for potions if he could tell snape was better at DADA?

I don't think Snape will be the next DADA teacher, and I have a guess as to why Dumbledore won't let him:

As we all know Snape was once a Death Eater. I believe that if Dumbledore gave Snape the position of Defence Against the Dark Arts teacher, Snape would remember what he used to do, and go back to his old ways. But yah, it's just a theory and a stinkish oen at that.

Snape has been denied the position for so long now, and Dumbledore has gone to extreme lengths (like hiring the likes of Lockheart) to avoid having to hire Snape for the position, even though he has been there at Hogwarts all along. If Dumbledore was so concerned about Harry getting useful, equitable treatment in that class, then he wouldn't have hired Gilderoy or have sat back when Umbridge was running the show.

I think that because of Snape's dubious past with the Dark Arts he has been denied the job more for his own protection than anything else.I think that it would take some monumental crisis for him to get the job and then it would probably be only as a stand-in.

Furthermore, Snape is an outstanding Potions teacher. I know that the DADA is the glamour job at Hogwarts, but I think that his own teaching post is actually important.

I'd love it if Dumbledore got out of the office more and decided to be a more hands-on principal that actually taught a class....

Personally I don't think Snape is going to be the next DADA teacher simply because JKR likes to keep them hidden until the actual book comes out.
-Did we know Lockhart? No.
-Did we know Lupin? No.
-Did we know Mad Eye? No.
-Did we know Umbridge? No.
Do you get my point? I think each of the DADA teachers are brought forward with a purpose(with the exception of Lockhart. I think he was there for comical relief) in each of the books, and can't stay more than one year because the next DADA teacher is going to bring a whole new twist to the next book.
Reading through this I find it very confusing , oh well I don't know how else to put it .

i don't think Snape will be the new DADA professor. Eventually Jk Rowling will tell us through Dumbledore I suppose about why he has never let Snape fill the position. And of course, we well all say, "riiigghhht... that makes sense." haha. I look forward to a new DADA character in each book and it makes it way more exciting.

I think that Accio Xbox has a good point. For DD to put Snape as a new DADA would bring the worst out of him. Aphrodite also has a good point that all of the previous teachers were just introduced in that book.

If you look at it you will find out that the DADA is one of 3 major characters in the book. Lupin is in the order and so is Moody even though HE did teach we still know him as "Professor." Lockhert was with Harry and Ron when they went to the CoS. Umbridge was introduced before we knew her as "Professor", she was at Harry's trial and she sent the dementors to attack Harry and if she didn't go back then Harry would have gone mad.

Back on subject, the reason I don't think Snape will get the job is because "Why?" Puting him as the DADA would not only cause problems and conflicts but it will also make DD to find a new potions teacher.

I don't think it will be Snape. I think it will be someone completely new. So far all of the DADA teachers have been new characters. So I think JKR will have a completely new character and I have a feeling this time they will actually be good and will help Harry someway. Also, I always thought that snippet of the book JKR gave us about the man who looked like a lion was referring to the DADA teacher. I am not really sure why, but I always had that gut feeling.

Like a few other people said. I always thought DD didnt make Snape DADA teacher for a reason. Maybe it has something to do with why DD trusts him so much?

i highly doubt that snape will be the new DADA teacher...

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I do not think that snape will be the DADA teacher because i think evrey year since Lockheart dumbledore has been trying to have a teacher that can teach harry something new that he could use in the future and thats why they have had a new one evrey year. Lupin taught harry how to fight dementors, Fake moody taught him the unforgivible curses, and then Umbridge came and i think broke that chain for one year.

That's a good theory, Dumbledore's nephew, but as you yourself said Umbridge broke the pattern. I think many people base their predictions on previous patterns in the book, and that's a good place to start, if you can detect a solid trend. I'm not really in support of Snape being the DADA teacher, I still don't think it's going to happen, but I want to simply point out that alot of patterns have been broken in OotP. Since this thread is about Snape and his possiblities of getting the position, I'm gonna say that's its possible, but unlikely. I think he would still be his rude self like when he substituted for the class in PoA, and by this point in the series they really need a good teacher to help them for the times ahead.

we've always been told that Dumbleboor had special reasons for trusting Snape, but even though he trusts him, he never allows him to be the DADA teacher-- i'm sure Dumpledoor has his "special reasons" for that too.
i just don't see a reason to why would dumbledoor suddenly change his mind about allowing Snape to teach the subject...

Unfortunately, the question here is not whether Snape is worthy or not. Of course he would be worthy of the job, and probably just short of being the best one yet for the job (second only to Mad-Eye). The question is whether Dumbledore will put him there and whatever Dumbledore does he will have his reasons and it will work out best for Harry. I don't think that Snape will become DADA teacher mainly for the reason I believe that he is best suited for where he is right now...in potions. While he would be a great DADA teacher it would be harder for Dumbledore to find a new potions master. As Snape once said, (or something to this effect) 'potion making is an exact science.' and he seems to have that exact science down to be the best potions master available to Dumbledore.

While I don't think that Snape will become the DADA teacher I hope he will become it simply because it would be a good 'stage' in Harry's life to have his favorite class be taught by his least favortie teacher. (that could also teach him something, unlike Umbridge and Lockhart)

I'm going to agree with the general consensus that seems to be that Dumbledore has his reasons for not making Snape DADA teacher, which will probably be made known to us in the coming books.

That being said, one has to wonder who the new teacher will be. I saw somebody bring up the possibility of Dumbledore himself, which I suppose is plausible. Dumbledore IS the "only one He ever feared", so I could see that. But on the same hand, I just can't see Dumbledore as a teacher.

My guess is that somebody from the Order is going to be the DADA teacher, as it just makes sense. Now that everybody knows Voldemort is back, wouldn't Dumbledore want to hire a DADA teacher who is part of the resistance effort and who knows what they're talking about?

So if it IS a person in the order that aren't already at Hogwarts, the choices would be Lupin, Moody, Tonks, Kingsley Shacklebolt, Molly Weasley, Arthur Weasley, Bill Weasley,or Mundungus Fletcher. Those are the only Order members talked about at length, anyway.

We can probably knock Lupin and Moody off of the list, as I doubt JK would bring either of them back. Kingsley is too important to lose from the Ministry, as is Arthur. Tonks and Mundungus Fletcher are just... not the teacher type . I can't see JK bringing in Molly, either. This leaves Bill. And why not? Bill left Egypt just to come back and work for the order: I'd think that since he's that dedicated to Dumbledore, he'd do whatever he was asked. And I somehow think that we are going to be seeing more of Bill in the last couple books, so this would be right up his alley. We know he was Head Boy and had a ton of OWLs, so he is obviously qualified.

Of course this is all in the logic of thinking that the new DADA teacher is already an introduced character. Maybe it'll be a new character after all.

I dunno... I just don't see Snape getting the job. Bill on the other hand... who knows?

Wow Darth Voldemort.....nice comment. I liked the logic you used considering the possiblities of the member being from the Order. I plan to stay on topic but first wanna mention something quickly about Bill. I agree 100% that we will be seeing him more, but I think he too is a rather unlikely qualifier. He may be smart, but someone who is young and "cool", not to mention probably not qualified for this particular field of expertise, will more than likely not get the job.

I again agree with Darth Voldemort on agreeing with everybody else about Dumbledore's reasons for not picking Snape. I mean, Snape has been trying to get the job for years, we find that out very early on. We also know he is qualified for it. But Dumbledore has his reasons, and it is unlikely he will change those reasons even in this time of crisis. I sometimes question Dumbledore's picks, for instance Lockhart. I'm having a hard time convincing myself that Dumbledore couldn't see right through him, but he was chosen anyways. That would've been a great time for Snape but instead he chose Lockhart. If he didn't give Snape the chance then, he's not going to in the 6th book. The reasons for why he isn't letting him? Well, we'll soon find out, won't we?

Oh I just thought of something too that would go hand in hand with the "Tonks as Traitor" theory. What if Tonks IS the new teacher? I know I said before that I couldn't see her being the teacher type, but if Tonks really is a traitor, it would be a big deal if Tonks could be passing information from inside Hogwarts itself. Not only is she a member of the Order, but she'd be a teacher at the school in prime position to pass information to Voldemort.

That's off-topic, mate. There is a thread for discussing the possibility of Tonks as a traitor (Voldemort's spy to be specific) and that's here or you can talk about it at the general Traitors thread here.

Now this is JKR we are talking about, and like I said Each of the Teachers have had something new to teach harry in how to defend himself. Snape just might get the job and have some new things to teach harry. And i wouldnt thing of Tonks Being a Traitor because she is a Have Blood and doesnt voldemort hate all who are pure blooded?

Snape is NOT going to be the next dada teacher because he is way to HOMO!!! He's always mad at Harry because of things James did to him back at school. Plus, Snape was a Death Eater. Now I know Dumbeldore trusts him, but enough to put him in charge of teaching students how to defend themselves?

Good reply Mc, but if your talking about Snape in book 2 with lockhart i think he was just there for like an example. And i still say its possible for snape to become the new DADA teacher.

I don't think so!!! Mainly because there is strong evidence in book 5 suggesting that Dumbledore's got his reasons for not making Snape the DADA...for many years....so it seems...
And there is no way that Dumbledore will suddenly change his mind..now that Voldemort's return has been publicised!!! But u never know....JKR is quite unpredictable...she might introduce Snape as a DADA teacher...obviously backed up by certain, satisfactiry reasons!!!

i agree with abzz, if snape was going to be the new DADA teacher then Dumbledore would have done it ages ago right?? plus who would be the new potions teacher? after all snape has a characteristic roll for being mean and although i dont like him if he was replaced then i would really miss him as potions teacher!

I aggree - he is too good at potions to be lost to DADA. And if the DADA position is cursed then maybe him getting the post would be a sign that he was going to die in that book.

Well we all know Dumbledore made Snape his potions teacher 16 years ago, Harry was born 16 years ago. Dumbledore also has a master plan wich we do not know all details. So If im right and dumbledore had wanted new each teacher to teach harry something new each year what would it look like to give snape DADA position and then take it away when harry comes to school.

i agree too. i think snape is now extremely fond of his dungeons.

SNAPE IS IN AND EVERYONE ELSE IS O-U-T OUT!!!!!

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I think that DD had his reasons why not giving Snape the job in the first place

dumbledore has turned downt he position to snape 5 years in a row. i doubt now he will change his mind. i think either dumbledore himself will substitute or somebody else. maybe somebody in the order. tonks or kingsley or somebody

harry's favorite part of the day is dada and if snape is the teacher, harry will dread every part of the day. so i think snape will not be the dada teacher

Snape always wanted be Teacher DADA.He hated all Teachers of DADA.i think in 6 book he will be not Teacher in Hogwarts,but he will teach people (kids :S) in "Order"
Snape will help Dumbeldore to train Harry,Ron and Hermiona.