It feels good to see that all the hints from Book 1 to Book 5 about Ginny finally are revealed as the real steps to develop the relationship between Harry and Ginny. Now, after it's all confirmed, we see that the romantic plot is really beautifully planned around Harry Potter.
How can we justify Ginny as Harry's ultimate spouse, based on Jo Rowling's fantasy?
1. Harry is a unique boy, "the boy who lived", in the wizard world. In the muggle world, he is powerless, unloved and unhappy. In the wizard world he is powerful, respected and beloved. From this fact, we should know that Harry's ultimate girl should totally come from the wizard world, not muggle world. The girl can and will make Harry forgo all bad memories about muggle world. The girl can and will make Harry comfortable and happy in the wizard world.
This is the most important element in the Harry Potter series. The breach between wizard world and muggle world is final. Harry Potter has to choose to live in one of the worlds. He cannot live in two worlds, although he has tasted both worlds. His spouse has to be the one endogenous from the world he will choose.
With this basic thought, we can eliminate any girls coming from muggle world. This includes Hermione. Despite all her capabilities, Hermione will not bring a closure to Harry's life, because he will constantly dragged back and forth between the wizard and muggle world.
2. Harry's unique fate as the "Chosen One" will suit a girl that has a unique fate. Ginny is the only girl born into Weasley family in several generation. She is also the seventh child (Jo regards number "seven" as special) of a well-regarded wizard family. Her family possesses significant position in the wizarding world. No other girl in the HP series has anything close to Ginny's background. A unique girl for a unique boy.
With this thought, we can eliminate any girls whose background are not described as unique as Ginny. This includes most Hogwarts female students, including Luna Lovegood. I was hoping we see more about the Lovegoods, but as the most information came from book 5, with one sentence in book 4 and several minor ones (and wilder ones as well) in Book 6, this is definitely not the direction Jo will take to build romance for Harry.
3. Harry is learning his way around the girls and has to find out which one gives him the best feeling. It was noted that Harry's life entangled with the lives of several girls. With some of them, he developed significant relationship, although not necessarily romantic one. Most notably: Ginny in Book 2 (Burrow), Hermione in Book 3 (time-turner), Parvati in Book 4 (Yule Ball dance), Cho in Book 5 (date and kiss), Luna in Book 6 (Christmas party). All of those are involved in the memorable moments of a boy's life. The books recorded that Harry stated serious criticism in the relationships with all of these girls, except one, Ginny. In fact, Harry proudly mentioned Ginny as his catch, someone who was very taken with him year after year, for 3 concecutive years (Book 2 to Book 4). Harry felt the most comfortable relaxing moments around Ginny (Book 4, 5 and 6). No other girl gave him this feeling.
4. Harry needs and will get a true love. True love has to be proven through several tests and comes out pure. Just like gold nugget hidden in a rock formation. Once the misconceptions are wiped out, the true feeling will be shown. This happens through the series with Ginny.
Where does this love come from? Divine providence or "fate". It happens that the first memorable girl Harry met in his recorded life (in the HP series) is Ginny. She is interested in Harry and Harry silently paid attention to her. The interest in Book 1 turns into crush in Book 2. This was when Harry received his first memorable Valentine Card (Jo confirmed it's really from Ginny). Also the first and only time so far Harry voluntarily bet his own life to save someone else, whereas he could have avoid doing so. The crush in Book 2 continued in Book 3 and 4. This is when Jo declares Ginny's thusfar unanswered affection to Harry as "languishing in love". Thus, it's not a temporary crush. It's "love" that grows stronger with time. It's "love" that still needs purification to be declared as the true one. "I have never really given up on you" is one of the declarations of an undying love. Even if Ginny will not be Harry's wife, her love is the truest and purest from a female person to Harry.

Will it matter if the readers don't like Ginny's character?
Absolutely not. What matters is what Harry likes. Harry likes Ginny more than any girls he has been involved with (romantic or not). Harry has bet his life once and now he is willing to sacrifice his happiness for the only girl he really loves, even if the girl is despised by the whole population. I see that in book 7 Harry Potter not only has to vanguish Voldemort to get his happiness (with Ginny), but also faces criticism from some people who don't like Ginny's character. Knowing Harry's character after 6 books, he will not care about any opposition. He has found his best source of comfort, he will fight all the way to have it.

Personally, I like the way Jo shows how likeable Ginny is. Jo doesn't describe Ginny as "the prettiest in the universe", but she pointed out how Ginny was never left alone by her peers and boys. It takes a big effort not to write Harry's straightforward opinion about Ginny, because it will only be interpreted as shallow. Jo has to use other ways to show that Harry sees Ginny favourably, something so different from any other girls in the HP series.
I am not Harry Potter, so I never dream to have Ginny as my sweetheart. She is not my type and honestly, I am scared of her. I just try to analyse her character and found out how fitting she is as Harry's sweetheart based on Jo's writing style in HP series. I am glad Jo has confirmed it. I am glad that many have shared the same view. I hope those who have hoped other girls to be Harry's ultimate love will see and accept Jo's build-up.

This is my favorite pairing in the book. I ship R/H as well, but I like this one the best. I like how Ginny's all grown up, and Harry has taken notice to that. I hope to see more of this relationship in book seven.

shoot man i'd LOVE to date a girl like ginny!!! However, this forem is not about me though is it? I think that jo did an excellent job developing ginnys charater throughout the 6 books. i mean i have been a h/g shipper since the second book! so i obviously have paid close attention to ginny and , of course , harry. like i said earlier shes a big girl and can make decisions on her own so she will be with harry throughout the last book... but imagian dating a girl like that ... tough,pretty,can kiss well, man harry scored...... *eyes glaze over*

Nicely done, Muggleview. Basically, the way Rowling potrays Ginny in a favourable light is why the Harry/Ginny Ship is so popular.
Actually, we should have expected something like this.
From the 1st Book until the 5th book, Rowling has secretly been dropping hints.
What better way to link Harry to the Weasley family?

Before i read book six I never saw it coming and then bam!! I just never thought of it befoer but it seems so natural...I always thought Harry was going to end up with Luna or somethign twisted like that but now that I think about it Ginny and Harry is so perfect.

I agree Muggleview (that was an excellent post btw). I too think Jo has developed Ginny in a good light (I actually think she's cooler than Hermione) and left many hints over the years as to her feelings for Harry. I've seen many posts where people have said they don't like Ginny but I love her and really wish she had a bigger role in the books!

i totally agree with u. ginny should play a bigger role in the books, and i think that she will in book 7. oh muggleview that really was a great post srry i didnt say so before but i just got off work and was really tiredso i didnt mention it in my last post.

muggleview that was a really really good post i mean it described everything perfectly harry feels comfortable with ginny all the other girls didnt give harry comfort they were just sort of girls and then ginny comes and makes harry feel safe sort of also i think in the 7th book ginny will have a part as big as ron and hermiones she will be one of those really big characters that isnt the main character

Hi all, thanks for the support. I just hope to share the good feeling I got when Harry/Ginny is finally revealed. It removes the depression that sometimes came when you face many oppositions.
I think it's good that Harry left Ginny at this moment, so he will know what it means to live without her. Remember the old advice: "Don't find someone you can live with, but find someone you cannot live without". Harry has to taste a life without Ginny to cherish a life with her. So far he has tasted a life without Hermione for a period of time and he didn't feel that bad about it. He broke up with Cho and felt nothing about it anymore. He never really missed Luna or any other girls after separation. Let's see how and how long Harry can handle a life without Ginny. Hopefully he is not that thick, because poor Ginny now has really to wait only for him.
Ginny has had her period of living without Harry, and she found that not pleasant. I don't think break-up is a nice thing. It leaves scars for life. Ginny has tried her best to live without Harry and she failed miserably and ended up still languishing in love for Harry. So I don't think she is going to be passive, but she is understanding enough to give space for Harry to test his own feeling.

Thank you so much for that post muggleview. After HBP, I've been a huge Harry/Ginny ship fan. I have been looking for some explanation and reasoning to make me stop thinking that JK will kill Ginny or Harry off in the final boo, and that post really helped.

Although, it is still really hard to think JK won't do something to mess it up. If they don't end up together in the end, it would ruin the whole book for me. I would be extremely dissapointed.

But your post helped give me reason to think that won't happen, which is something I've been looking for...hard.

Yes, thank you very much indeed for the post, muggleview. I think that Ginny will want to take a more active role in helping Harry in the fight against Voldemort, but I think the knowledge that he now loves her will help strengthen her resolve; it also might make waiting easier for her. I'm sure that she knows how much Harry cares for her, and that he only broke up with her in the hopes of protecting her.
-- Gin

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This is a message to the "anonymous" person who has contacted one of the other moderators regarding the posts in the H/Hr thread.

If you have something to say to me, I really would prefer it if you did it directly and not pass messages on through the other moderators who are exceptionally busy in other areas of the forum and whose time is a great deal more limited than mine currently is to be dealing with this.

Nothing that is being said in the H/Hr thread is insulting to anyone's opinion or is a personal remark. It is CHARACTER bashing - the expression of an opinion which we are PERFECTLY entitled to do. We are also expressing opinions on someone else's ship - again, something we are PERFECTLY entitled to do. I would not allow anyone in there to insult the intelligence or opinions of other fans and I have asked people in there not to be quite so vicious about the R/Hr's. I'm sorry if some people in here and obviously so offended that the whole world is not dancing about like loonies at a free alcohol party about the ships in HBP, but people have differing opinions about it and they are entitled to express them on this board in the appropriate manner - which they are doing.

It is ridiculous to be taking such offence over the bashing of fictional characters and fictional relationships. It's the REAL people on here who are being insulted that bothers the mods - not an abstract that doesn't actually exist.

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Muggleview,
that was a lovely piece of advice;

What a brilliant post Muggleview ! You've really described how true love is, and how it appeals to Harry and Ginny. Great work ! It was really amazing to see how hard it was for Harry to break off the relationsship, cause we've never seen him having those kind of feelings for any girl before ! They must be ment to be together !

I have always thought that it would be Harry and Ginny all the way. And I do still think that. But I guess in the 7th book it will explain all in the end. I;ve heard that J.K Will explain how each of them grew up and all. I think that the 7th book will come out 2007.

hello! i'm new here in the forums and i am such a big fan of harry and ginny! i am so happy that they got together at the sixth book,it is quite a good thing for harry knowing that there is someone who not only likes him for what he has done but the person he can be as well.

Welcome Ginny26 ! I think you are absolutely right about this. Clearly it must be hard for Harry to find out who loves him for the one he is and not for what he has done. That is why Ginny is so perfect for him. At first when Ginny met Harry she was a "fan" of him, but didn't really know him. In the books she has found out what kind of person he is and she loves that person !

Harry and Ginny are perfect for each other. And it is sooooo obvous that they both care for each other and just want to hide it. I would to if I liked my best friends sister..or visa versa...anywho..thanks for opning this one!

ginny has always been a fan of harry and still is although being a fan has grown into love an in the end i think harry is going to kill voldy and on the scene is going to ask ginny to marry him

Hey, I always knew Ginny still liked Harry! They make such a cute couple and I think that she will go with Harry, Ron and Hermione. I hope so!

hey yeah tht was a good comment about ginny liking harry for him not his accomplishments . nice job!

hello regitze and ridewake9! hello to everyone in the forum! i really do think that harry and ginny will end up together at the end of book 7.. one thing struck me at the last chapter..that part where harry was approaching ginny knowing that ginny would be expecting anything from him and wouldn't stop him from what he was about to do...i really liked ginny's strong personality of standing by harry's side whatever the cost and that is a sign of true love...

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I keep wondering how it will play out in the movies. I think that they will really play up their sceens in OoP to make a more seemless transfer to HBP. That will be nice to see. I wonder who will direct HBP.

yeah i think .... well know that ginny understands harry in a way that no one has and in a different area or interachion that harry has never had experiance in. remus understood him as a teacher, siris as a parent and best friend, ron as a best friend, and hermionie as a female best friend. ginny understands him as a partner a GIRLFRIEND!!! potter hasnt had any experience in this particular area but ginny does an outstanding job as a girl friend

hello! i agree with you that harry and ginny's love for each other will make a great impact on book 7 because of what dumbledore has told harry.

The Directors probably will give more screen time to Ginny (after all, in film you have to be less subtle with characters development because the viewer can only see what's going on. They don't get insight into the characters thoughts). I'd be interested in seeing how they achieve this though...

yeah it will be cool to see them start to drift toward eachother in the next few movies

The movie people to have a tendency and quite a nack for conveying the insights of the characters with certain looks or movements. Especially PoA, wacthing it this side of HBP, it's become an inlightened experince. But this this means a lot of work for Bonnie Wright now. I hope she's up to the challenge.

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I think that Bonnie is ready for her role. I know that she can do it. I can't wait to see the moments between Harry and Ginny. *
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I have a question to ask. Does anyone have any Harry and Ginny pictures? I need some I would love some pictures thank you. You can PM me.

Hi all, like Beekyk2001, I can't wait to see the portrayal of Ginny in OOP, now that Harry and Ginny are officially revealed to be "the pair". Bonnie Wright is in the GoF with minor role, but she is persistently there for all 3 previous movies, despite insignificant scenes. From each movies, she has grown up nicely as a pretty girl. Hopefully she will play Ginny in HBP and Movie 7.
I remember one scene in POA, where Hermione and Ron quarrelled about Scabber while walking across the schoolyard. Harry lagged a few feet behind and since he was not involved in the conversation, he used that time to "look back" to a certain red-head girl talking to another girl sitting near the fountain. I don't think the red-head is Bonnie, but since the scene is so short, the red-head girl was shown from behind, it's not necessary to use Bonnie. However, there is no other red-head girl in the series, there's a hugh possibility it's Ginny. Could it be that Cuaron cleverly placed the Harry-Ginny scene in POA to show his understanding to JKR's storyline?
Remember, that POA has some foreshadowing for Book 6. Many thought it was the "conversation about Lily", but HBP doesn't contain anything about Lily. The big revelation is about Ginny being Harry's desired girl.

It's clear by now how some readers think very highly about Jo Rowling as a great author, that they place her "higher" than she is. Jo is a great author, but she may not please all her readers. She has her own place in the list of great authors but may not as high as some thought.
Jo used some fresh terms and styles originally her own. Some readers cannot accept this, because they judge her using the common "norm" or "rule". In some cases Jo's approach is very simple, yet genuine. The plot of Harry-Ginny (and Ron-Hermione) is not complicated, but the way she presents it is a touch of a genie, which many minds may not readily acknowledge as a beautiful penmanship, because they are blinded by some presumptions or imaginary plots of themselves.
The sad thing is Jo Rowling has survived the initial look-down as a newcomer female author and now has to endure some look-down because the romantic storyline is not as deep as some may hope to find.
The fact is Harry-Ginny relationship has been carefully plotted since book 1 and developed "subconsciously" thoughout the next 4 books only to be revealed in the penultimate book of the series. Also, Jo Rowling has daringly captured the radical transformation of the teenagers of this era in "unusual" way. Harry's "sudden" realization about Ginny and his bold decision to show it publicly is uniquely Jo Rowling's, just as surprising as Harry's selection to Quidditch team in Book 1 or as Triwizard Champion in Book 4. The word to describe it: Brilliant! It's not Jo's problem that some readers didn't see it earlier. In fact, it's her triumph. She likes the idea to have her readers "tricked but not conned". Nothing out-of-the-blue about Ginny's love to Harry. The "giving up on Harry" is now declared as a red-herring. Nothing surprising about Harry's affection to Ginny. He never objected Ginny's affection and never denied accusation that Ginny's his girlfriend, ever.
Cheers,
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Woww...Once again, excellent post. I also can't wait to see how the Harry/Ginny relationship is portrayed in the upcoming films; I'm pretty sure some foreshadowing is going to be used. I also didn't notice that bit in PoA, thanks for pointing it out.

I was bored so i thought i'd come back and post in here. lol. I can't wait to see H/G on the screen, i think it'll be cute. I hope bonnie is still acting in it when we get round to HBP. Though i admit that r/hr will irk me when it happens...but thats off topic. lol. Poor Mods, there all screaming at everyone to change sigs. It's really about time to start listening. lol. Well anyway, good shipping.

H/G will be a sight to see on the screen im really looking forward to it i wasnt really a supporter till the 4th book when ron suggests ginny go to the ball with harry when i read that i realized that that would be a really cool couple and since then ive been a big supporter although i only just found this sight i havent had to many posts here about it but im really looking forward to H/G on the screen

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hi im new to this but i think harry and ginny really suit hehe.. but he should of realizsed he liked her when she liked him!

vanilla kisses x

Yeah. Harry should've realized his feelings earlier, but in this series, it seems the female characters pick the boys. The boys are a bit slow in realizing it. It's obvious that Harry has eyed Ginny for a while, especially in OOP, but his respect to Ron prohibited him to show it for fearing it will ruin their friendship. In HBP, Harry finally has the gut to make it happen. The funny thing is some people theorized that it is the result of love potion. We know that falling in love can make people behave unusually, seemingly drunken or irrational, but at the end, the good sense will take over and then it is shown whether the "love" is the true love or just emotional rush. At the end of HBP, Harry broke up with Ginny, because he loves her very much. Harry loves Ginny so much that he would rather sacrifice his own happiness for being with her, that let her be the victim of Voldemort because of him. Love potion will not possibly cause that. Love potion will only make people want to be with the person all the time, regardless the situation. Jo Rowling has used Ron's love potion case to show the constrast to Harry's case. Ron couldn't help but trying to be together with Romilda, but Harry can restrain his will for the sake of Ginny's well being. That's true love, unconditional love, sacrificial love.
On the other hand, Ginny has shown the same love. She understands Harry's purpose very well. She accepts Harry's decision without remorse, only to be languishing in love once more. This time, she won't find anyone else, but just waiting for Harry to vanguish Voldemort. Hopefully it will last shorter than 2 year waiting period (until 07-07-2007?) as the readers have to bear.

I agree with you completly muggleview. On the whole love potion thing that is. I remeber seeing that thread and didn't even bother about clicking in it, simply because i thought it was going to be complete rubbish. lol. In any case i can't see Ginny being that cruel. No, Harry was definently acting on his own accord.

What? Have people suggested Harry was only with Ginny because of a Love Potion?

I always had a feeling it would be Harry and Ginny, even though there weren't any clues until HBP that Harry had feelings for Ginny. Have to say, I think JK handled the 'lightening strike' moment when Harry realised his feelings wonderfully!

yeh, harry was very jealous when she was kissing dean.

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Yeah that's crazy,because it was his subconsciously feeling that were shown first. Saying it smelled like flowers and then reliasing it was Ginny. And plus love-potion love is nothing but obesstion, selfish, benall, obesstion. I'm speaking from my Buffy the Vampire Slayer wisdom .
Muggy, you're a genius.

i really am so happy that ginny and harry ended up together and that ginny has a strong personality she was able to handle the thought of letting harry go knowing that it would hurt her and she had that sense of maturity in her that i guess made harry love her more.

I know Ginny 26, I love Ginny as a character too (I was a bit shocked to discover some poeople hated her). I always thought it would be her and Harry but until OotP, I confess that I didn't see how Harry could fall for her (she was very much in the background). However, by OotP I thought she was perfect for Harry. She cared about him but was still better able to stand up to him when he was in a mood than Ron and Hermione were. Also, she has the same defiant spirit as Harry i.e. going off to the Ministry despite Harry's efforts to stop her and breaking into the broomshed at home and taking out everyone's brooms in turn (that's my favourite Ginny story).

Ginny is passionate, loyal and brave...she's everything Harry is and they are perfect for each other.

I can get why people don't like her, but it seems to come most strongly from sour grapes of being wrong and the failure to admit the misjudgement of characters.
I was always holding out hope for them because I knew Ginny was best for Harry, Harry pushes people away when he needs them the most. He needed, and got, someone who goes through him. She refuses to yeild when she knows she's right, and it's wonderful.

the people that dont like ginny are just angry because harry isnt with hermione i cant wait until the next book for more H/G moments

The people who don't like Ginny have their own reasons, I suppose. But I personally had a lot of respect for her, especially at the end of HBP- her true Weasley courage definitely came out then.

at the end of HBP ginny didnt show courage i think she showed that she understood that harry could be with her until voldemort died so she showed understanding

Well, the fact that she accepted what Harry had to do, and didn't go into a whole pathetic 'No, you can't leave me!' thing definitely required some courage.
Think about it- Ginny has loved Harry for such a long time, and has wanted to be with him for ages. She waited and waited for him for years- and, when they finally get together, after all this time, and really are happy together, Harry realizes what he has to go on and do. And Ginny doesn't cry like a baby or plead with him, she does, yes, understand that he needs to do this. It involves quite a lot of willpower to restrain yourself in times like these, but Ginny knew how to go about it. I think she had quite a lot of courage, and definitely validated her love for Harry by supporting him.

Ginevra well said she showed so much corage it outpowered ron millions of times. Ginny has loved harry and alougth we dont hear about it till book 2 she has needed him from when she said good luck on platform 9 3/4. Go Ginny