ashleigh07
May 8 2005, 09:22 AM
Here you go then guys - a brand new shiny thread for:-
HARRY/GINNY SHIPPERS ONLY.(I don't think I could have made that any clearer

)
I DO NOT want to see any rude, inflammatory or disrespectful posts here from supporters of other ships.
Please make sure that you read the forums rules as well as the additional ones which apply to the Ships threads
here.
The old thread has been archived and may be found
here.
Now that I've gotten that out of the way, I'll let all you H/G shippers get back to it...
zhenesais
May 9 2005, 02:24 AM
Aaaahhh Harry & Ginny *sigh*... Thanks Ashleigh for opening a new thread, you're a legend! I doubt the debate will ever stop until the Harry Potter series ends. For, even if Harry and Ginny do not get together in the Half-Blood Prince, doesn't mean they won't end up that way in Book 7.
I've said it so many times before and am perfectly delighted to declare it again - it's Harry & Ginny! .... Not Harry & Hermione or Luna.
Harry & Ginny's pairing is practically written in the stars Firenze gazes at. Just like James & Lily. Harry may not have consciously realised it but it really is only a matter of time. Ginny's his match - she stands up to him when Ron & Hermione, his two best friends, almost cower. Sure it was said that she's over her crush on him, but that just means she's no longer intimidated and quiet around him. I think they genuinely admire each other:
- He admires Ginny for the just the fact that she understands evil /Tom Riddle/Voldemort's power. She's not weepy the way Cho annoyed Harry, she's strong against her brothers, isn't horrible at Quidditch and she's very loyal & willing to help Harry in any way she can.
- She likes Harry for his courage and the way he holds a burden that's impossible to carry yet manages. He's so loyal to her family. I mean i could go on & on. It's all there, i can't wait to see it all materialise soon.
muggleview
May 9 2005, 08:45 AM
To me, Harry - Ginny is the main couple of the series. It's Harry Potter series, so the main romance naturally belongs to Harry. The girl that is prepared and tailored for Harry is Ginny. She is the only girl which family background is elaborated and whose actions are favourably described in the whole series.
Scara
May 9 2005, 05:45 PM
I adore the thought of Harry and Ginny together. I can't wait to see if they happen in HBP. At least I reckon Harry's "little romance" in HBP could be the beginning of things
muggleview
May 10 2005, 12:19 AM
Among the girls surrounding Harry right now, Harry has clearly paid more subsconcious attention to Ginny. When Ginny was in the scene, the others become unimportant. The conversation Harry Ginny prior to DOM showed that.
zhenesais
May 10 2005, 01:54 AM
You're exactly right Muggleview, you made me aware of something that i didn't consciously realise before! All of Ginny's actions, her habits, her words, they're all depicted in a favourable light in all the books.
The reader sees everything through Harry's point of view and not once has Ginny been seen as annoying or mean or anything horrible at all. See, even Hermione is sometimes depicted unfavourably from Harry's point of view - her nagging, her sometimes righteous manner and her voice as the constant buzz of maturity and logic in Harry's head - despite him loving her as a best friend he can only take so much when she is charging at him.
But Ginny, she's never done anything to aggravate Harry. I think Harry is subconsciously at ease & finds peace when he's around Ginny. Wow, interesting...
potteradicta
May 13 2005, 12:02 AM
muggleview
May 13 2005, 01:30 AM
We will see it soon enough in HBP. If Harry still doesn't approach Ginny then it's not going to happen, but seeing that Mary Grandpre already pictures Ginny on the right side of the Pensieve in the Standee, I think Ginny will be promoted to be Harry's right hand woman.
cerussite
May 13 2005, 09:04 AM
| QUOTE (muggleview @ May 13 2005, 01:30 AM) |
| We will see it soon enough in HBP. If Harry still doesn't approach Ginny then it's not going to happen, but seeing that Mary Grandpre already pictures Ginny on the right side of the Pensieve in the Standee, I think Ginny will be promoted to be Harry's right hand woman. |
I don't think he needs to approch her but I think we should at least get an idea of H-->G by the end of HBP (infact I think that is all we are going to get, at most), but if he has no intentions towards anyone by the end of HBP what then, do we ship him alone or does he still have a chance of pairing up with someone?
muggleview
May 13 2005, 05:11 PM
There is still the epilogue.
If Jo Rowling wants to be consistent about building the romance gradually, she should put some hints about Harry's intention in Book 6, not all of sudden in book 7. I don't expect Harry got a kiss from Ginny in HBP, but at least the intent should be shown there.
That's my perspective from the half-empty glass.
For the half-full glass, we are promised a lot of Ginny in HBP, other the "Poor Ginny, eh" remark from Jo Rowling:
- Connection to COS (Ginny and the Chamber?)
- Myrtle will appear (Entrance to the Chamber)
- Quiddicth Game (Harry: seeker, Ron: keeper; Ginny: chaser. Gryffindor should hoist another Cup)
- DA Meetings. Now Michael is not with Ginny, Ginny will need a new partner. Will Harry let Neville to be her partner, or will he be Ginny's partner?
- Voldemort's strategy. Ginny holds a key due to her possession and her interaction with Tom Riddle, when he wrote her back about himself. The knowledge is important to know what's in the Chamber and the connection to Voldemort's plan.
- Hogsmeade without Cho, while Ron + Hermione will have the time of their lives again. Ginny is now available. Ron has given permission. Will Harry ask her?
- Ginny' O.W.L.s
etc.
RavenRadcliffe
May 16 2005, 09:57 PM
i personally think harry and ginny will get together...though i would perfer hermione and harry but if not hermione then ginny
muggleview
May 17 2005, 05:46 AM
In OOP Harry and Ginny already shared some private glances and secret laughs, something that Harry didn't do with other girls, including Hermione, Cho or Luna. I think we will see more of these gestures in the next books.
cerussite
May 17 2005, 11:42 AM
| QUOTE |
muggleview Posted on May 17 2005, 05:46 AM In OOP Harry and Ginny already shared some private glances and secret laughs, something that Harry didn't do with other girls, including Hermione, Cho or Luna. I think we will see more of these gestures in the next books. |
Not just in OotP, in PoA they catch eachothers eyes and giggle at Percy. In OotP you see Harry choose Ginny over Ron and Hermione to make a joke with in St Mungo's, does she say it's not funny, nope, she laughs with him...
It's little things like this that makes me think H&G arre better suited
Although I am going through one of my more depressive moments and think Ginny might die at the end, it won't last... I should probably go and visit the H/G shipping hospital so I can bounce back a little quicker...
muggleview
May 20 2005, 04:07 AM
Ginny will not die before she becomes the matriach of Potter family.
I'm still a bit puzzled that Jo wrote this:
| QUOTE |
| In years to come, Harry would never quite remember how he had managed to get through his exams when he half expected Voldemort to come bursting through the door at any moment. (SS Ch 16, p. 262) |
So Jo already predicts the seven years of Harry in Hogwarts?
How about this then?
| QUOTE |
| It was probably the worst day of Harry's entire life. (COS Ch 16 p.295) |
It was after Ginny was presumed dead, which turned out to be wrong.
Is it a foreshadowing? Or a nice tribute from a husband to his beloved wife years after they have completed the adventure with Voldemort and left Hogwarts?
When I read HP books with a presumption that it is an autobiography from Harry Potter, I imagined that Harry must have written them after he married Ginny. He carefully gave Ginny good descriptions even as a little girl, while being critical to the appearances of any other girls. Even Fleur Delacourt is simply a beautiful girl but not special. I don't believe Harry was that immune to Fleur's charm. He may deliberately downplay the effect on himself, not to evoke jealousy from his wife.
Not surprisingly Harry wrote about his first girlfriend, Cho Chang, just in a simple generic description. Cho was pretty, a head shorter than him, with long black hair. Harry wrote mostly bad things that occurred during the private meetings and date with Cho. Even her only real kiss was intentionally blacked out, only retold from the point of view of his best friends and siblings-in-law, Ron and Hermione. How come Harry never said in much detail how he was taken with Cho? As soon as he was with Cho, they broke up and that's the end of the story. Harry was really cautious not to depict too excitedly his short-lived relationship with Cho.
Also, Harry conveniently removes all signs of Ginny's silly behaviour during the years she had crushed on him and was languishing for his love. In the first four books, Ginny was only selectively mentioned and all the funny or good things, never bad things. Harry chose memorable moments with flattering praise like "glowing like setting sun", "bright brown eyes" (despite catching only one thousandth of a second glance before Ginny slammed her door). He remembered her Valentine card (did Ginny send it?) and her self-made shrily singing get-well card. He noticed her soothing voice, fire-reflecting eyes, smoking red hair (from the cold medicine) and her disappointment not to go with him at Triwizard Yule Ball. Harry recalled the way she played with Crookshanks, showed tantrum to her Mom, scratched her nose absently, lied unblushingly, played Quidditch, fought gallantly for him.
I wonder if Ginny often looked over Harry's shoulder when he wrote the seven books, to make sure her husband writing no bad things about her? Or Harry voluntarily did so because after this years he was still madly in love with his wife? Or Harry wants to show his children and grandchildren only nice things about their Mom and Grandma? Or he wants to save Ginny from the continuous teasing of her big family members?

just a fun thought.
Scara
May 20 2005, 03:28 PM
| QUOTE (muggleview @ May 20 2005, 04:07 AM) |
just a fun thought. |
Aw... A very sweet thought as well

I certainly hope Rowling doesn't let you down. I'm pretty sure she won't.
muggleview
May 24 2005, 10:27 PM
Scara,
I hope we will know very soon whether Ginny is really for Harry in book 6.
Jo Rowling has not started writing book 7, so it will take 2 years to publish it (if the publishing editors are fast).
However, it's good to know that after OOP, Ginny is considered the primary candidate for Harry, with Luna in second place and Hermione in third place.
If Luna's role in HBP is much reduced, we can predict a winner (unless Jo Rowling plans to pull a trick on all of us).
elemento
May 27 2005, 08:49 PM
I would like it to be harry and ginny after reading some book6 fan fiction and it couldn't be harry and hermione because ron would be left alone...
muggleview
May 27 2005, 09:03 PM
Elemento,
Welcome to the forum. Glad to have you here.
Yes, I think it's been Ginny from the beginning, but Harry didn't want to mess up with Ron and his family, so Harry kind of watched her from afar, but didn't dare to make any move.
One funny thing I found from other discussions:
When Cho was about to kiss Harry:
| QUOTE |
| Cho made a funny noise halfway between a sob and a laugh. She was even nearer to him now. He could have counted the freckles on her nose. [OOP Ch 21] |
So far I know, girl with oriental gene like Cho doesn't have freckles. Harry didn't see freckles on Cho, either. He said "could have counted" meaning "if there were freckles". The girl with freckles in the HP series is Ginny. Now, could Harry have thought of Ginny, when Cho was closing in?
The answer:
| CODE |
| Not necessarily. It's Cho's freckles. Oriental girls sometimes do have dark spots which can be called freckles. However, that Harry ever thinks of freckles could be something! |
gryffin_hauz_88
May 30 2005, 12:55 PM
So... a H/G thread, huh? Anyways, count me in.
I don't know if I'm analyzing it right but as for my experience, H/G shippers are usually R/Hr supporter.
So, for me, Ginny still fancies Harry though she's dating other guys. If not, how come she
couldn't look in Harry's eyes in the hospital wing? There's no special thing happened to be embarrassed but still, she avoided Harry's eyes. It's because it's still Harry in her heart. She's dating others and Michael Corner became her boyfriend, I believe but the break- up was nothing. She didn't cry or what. And they didn't last long and she's dating again. I think, she keeps on dating someone because she couldn't find the feelings she is still feeling for Harry.
But you know, I want Ginny someone wherein she could be happy... weird, right? But maybe, Harry will realize his mistakes of not paying Ginny his attention and affection... and he'll fight for it... oh... you know what will happen next!
Harry should now realize that Ginny Weasley is not just his best friend's sister, his replacement in Quidditch, a fellow Gryffindor but someone to by loved by him.
muggleview
May 31 2005, 01:13 AM
Mostly yet, but not always. Some H/G shippers also ship R/L (Redmoon). I am not sure who they will pair with Hermione.
Welcome to H/G thread. You can also join the thread on H/G vs. H/other girls.
One of the speculations on why Harry seemed to ignore Ginny was Ron.
Harry didn't want to jeopardize his friendship with Ron by tangling his life with Ron's sister. Also, Harry was a bit intimidated by a crush, like a fan club or so, which he dislikes. Now that Ron have officially given his blessings and Harry realized that Ginny stopped to fancy (have a crush with) him, Harry may want to do something for it, for example: ask Ginny out before someone else does.
gryffin_hauz_88
May 31 2005, 03:47 AM
I agree. Ron is one of the reasons because Harry knows how protective Ron is and it might affect their friendship if he continues it. But as we've said, Harry had his best friend's blessings.
Luke_57
May 31 2005, 04:20 AM
I think since the book knows EVERYTHING harry is feeling and EVERYTHING that goes on in his head..there would be something about how he was watching her from afar but didnt want to make a move because of Ron...i do believe he'll end up with ginny but this is very farfetched..i dont think his feelings for her have been recognized or even if they are there
gryffin_hauz_88
May 31 2005, 07:16 AM
But that might be before, Ron as the so- called hindrance between Harry and Ginny but now, as we've all said, that Harry
has Ron's blessings, the problem we've got now is on how Harry will do his first move. Maybe, he had learn something from his
terrible experience with Cho

.
Anyways, have you heard about the theory between Lily and Ginny? That Ginny is the reincarnation of Lily. I forgot the website where I found it but then, I'll tell some details for those who don't know that. I bet, our dearest muggleview knows this!..

And if this topic has been started... I'm sorry...
Ok. So they say that Ginny is the reincarnation of Lily Potter. It explains why Ginny had a crush (or maybe love) for Harry. The theory says that because Harry looks like James, Lily sees her husband in Harry but she's in Ginny's form. Plus the similarities about Lily and Ginny... Ginny looks like Lily, for me.
I think, this one is a point for H/G ship if you believe in reincarnation. What can you say about that, guys?
muggleview
Jun 1 2005, 01:03 AM
I love this reincarnation theory. I think you are the first one mentioning it in this thread. Obviously you are linking it to the appearance of Prongs in POA, as Dumbledore said to Harry, coming from within Harry.
Ginny has already many good qualities to be THE ultimate girl for the hero, but the resemblance to Lily is definitely intentional by Jo Rowling to emphasize her suitability for Harry. In the first round discussion on the picture of Ginny in the standee of HBP, many swore to see Lily, instead of Ginny. Of course, we cannot be sure it's Lily or Ginny until we read the book, but the confusion points to the similarity between the two.
You got me thinking about Ginny's wand. I guess it's similar to Lily's: The wand that casts the protective charm for Harry.
gryffin_hauz_88
Jun 1 2005, 05:59 AM
I know you love that theory, muggy!
Anyway, I remember in a HP movie, I think it's the first or the second, the one who portrayed as Lily really reminds me of Ginny. But that time, I don't know yet the theory. This means that Lily has some similarities with Ginny.
I'm now searching about Ginny's wand if it's also casting a protective charm for Harry.
muggleview
Jun 2 2005, 01:31 AM
I don't think Ginny's wand was ever mentioned yet. I'm going to pay close attention if it's revealed in HBP. If the wand turns out to be similar, Ginny can use Lily's wand! (As a wedding gift?)
Luke_57
Jun 2 2005, 04:46 AM
On a different note: I think that JK threw in from the hospital wing that ginny caught his eye and then looked away grinning to show that she does in fact still like him so it wont be completely out of the blue if/WHEN they end up together
cerussite
Jun 2 2005, 01:23 PM
| QUOTE (emma_isHOTT @ Jun 2 2005, 04:46 AM) |
| On a different note: I think that JK threw in from the hospital wing that ginny caught his eye and then looked away grinning to show that she does in fact still like him so it wont be completely out of the blue if/WHEN they end up together |
Actually Harry turns to her to make a joke (while Ron and Hermione are there, so he could have joked with them).
I think this is an indication that their sense of humour is on the same wavelength. In comparison to Hermione, Ginny has had much less screen time and yet we have quite a few instances of them laughing at the same thing, unlike Hermione.
When Harry fantasised about his relationship with Cho he imagined her laughing. This is a good indication of what Harry wants in a girlfriend. (Along with nice shiny straight/wavy hair).
It is also reasonable to assume Ginny still likes Harry (in that way) because there was no resolution to her crush, like Harry had.
And one could also argue that Ginny was not emotionally available in her relationship with Michael Corner, 'the fool' and dumping him, it never sounded that great, or like some whirlwind romance.
Luke_57
Jun 2 2005, 09:04 PM
he did not joke with Ginny when she looked at him
| QUOTE |
Hermione seemed to struggle with herself for a moment, the said, "That sounds lovely" Ginny caught Harrys eye and looked away quickly, grinning. "So anyway," Said Hermione[...] |
so there was no joke going on between them...and Ginny wasnt grinning when she turned to look at harry, rather she grinned when she caught his eye
muggleview
Jun 2 2005, 11:07 PM
The whole situation is supposed to be funny. If Harry's face was serious, Ginny would not grin. Apparently Harry is holding a grin, and amazingly he found Ginny's eyes and caused Ginny to grin.
These two are in denial. They have been looking at each other since Book 2, but somehow didn't want to come out openly about the feelings. If Harry didn't have any feelings at all to Ginny, he wouldn't look at her eyes at all. In that hospital scene, Harry ignored Neville's or Ron's (his best buddy in jokes), but only caught Ginny's eyes.
Harry and Ginny have caught eyes, and looking away grinning, a few times. In POA, they grinned about Percy, then in OOP about Lockhart and now about Luna. That's their style of sharing private jokes.
gryffin_hauz_88
Jun 3 2005, 09:39 AM
| QUOTE (muggleview) |
Harry and Ginny have caught eyes, and looking away grinning, a few times. In POA, they grinned about Percy, then in OOP about Lockhart and now about Luna. That's their style of sharing private jokes.
|
And this private sharing of jokes means that they really have sort of mutual understanding.
cerussite
Jun 3 2005, 11:03 AM
| QUOTE (emma_isHOTT @ Jun 2 2005, 09:04 PM) |
he did not joke with Ginny when she looked at him
| QUOTE | Hermione seemed to struggle with herself for a moment, the said, "That sounds lovely" Ginny caught Harrys eye and looked away quickly, grinning. "So anyway," Said Hermione[...] |
so there was no joke going on between them...and Ginny wasnt grinning when she turned to look at harry, rather she grinned when she caught his eye
|
I think we are talking about different scenes. In my quote I am talking about OotP. Harry makes a joke about Lockheart to Ginny in st mungo's, and Ginny grins at him. There are other occasions like the one you posted where they just catch eachothers eyes and turn away laughing or grinning.
All these scenes are a big thumbs up for H/G
muggleview
Jun 3 2005, 04:18 PM
Joking together aside, have you noted that Harry actually spent time to watch Ginny? Jo cleverly didn't say how long, but based on the description she wrote in the books, Harry could not have just glanced at her.
| QUOTE |
| Harry walked around the other pairs, trying to correct those who were doing the spell wrong. Ginny was teamed with Michael Corner; she was doing very well, whereas Michael was either very bad or unwilling to jinx her. (OOP Ch 18) |
As a teacher to conclude one student bad or not, Harry couldn't just look at Ginny and Michael for a second. He quietly observed Ginny and Michael casting spells to each other several times and found out that Michael behaved awkwardly, but Ginny was not. Ginny performed it to Michael seriously.
Side note:
When comparing to Cho, who also behaved awkwardly in the presence of Harry, or Ron and Hermione who awkwardly tried to disarm each other, we may conclude that awkwardness indicated romantic feelings. Michael may have more romantic feeling to Ginny than the other way around.
| QUOTE |
| "Not anymore," said Ginny resolutely. "He didn't like Gryffindor beating Ravenclaw at Quidditch and got reallly sukly, so I ditched him and he ran off to comfort Cho instead." She scratched her nose absently with the end of her quill, turned The Quibbler upside down and began marking her answers. Ron looked highly delighted. (OOP Ch 37) |
Take out your stopwatch and count the time, how long does it take for you to:
- scratch your nose absently - scratch, scratch
- turned a paper upside down - swoosh
- began marking your answers - scribble, scribble.
I failed to do it all within one second, so it must be more than that.
That's how Jo Rowling shows Harry paying attention to Ginny, without having to say: "Harry was watching Ginny for 7 seconds."
tewkes_ape
Jun 3 2005, 10:20 PM
Personally I'd love to see Harry with Ginny. Cause it would so rock I've loved Ginny's character all the way through the series. From the girl who is way too smitten for words to a more mature character that should appeal to Harry in many ways. Brave, funny, powerful, quick thinking and stubborn, who am I talking about? Ginny, of course. Brave: She's in Gryiffindor, plus she stood up to Malfoy and many, many other examples. Funny: little snipets of Humour like the imitation of Umbridge in the Hog's Head. Powerful: Bat Bogies Hex: Need I say more? Quick thinking: "I think Crookshanks was playing with them" when Mrs. Wealsey asks where all the stink bombs came from. Stubborn: (sorry big quote I know won't happen again)
| QUOTE |
'Excuse me, but I care what happens to Sirius as much as you do!' said Ginny, her jaw set so her resemblance to Fred and George was striking. 'You're too-' Harry began, but Ginny said fiercly, ' I',m three years older than you were when you fought You-Know-Who over the Philosopher's Stone, and it's because of me that Malfoy's stuck back in Umbridge's office with giant flying bogies attacking him -' |
So well we got all that covered so Ginny is a likely match for Harry and is perfectly able to be in a relationship with Harry. She's perfectly Happy, powerful and strong, which means that she may also be able to join the group in more fights with Lord Voldemort and his Death Eaters.
and yes I agree with the regular private joke theory that people keep talking about. We first see the private jokes in PoA which is when Ginny starts getting used to talking to Harry properly.
muggleview
Jun 3 2005, 10:52 PM
Tewkes_ape, your great posting gets me to see 2 "new" things (may be not new for others):
1. Harry never lied to Ginny.
In OOP Harry lied to Ron, Hermione, Moody, Mrs. Weasley etc, but not to Ginny.
2. Harry always gave in to Ginny's wish.
In OOP, Ginny insisted doing this and that (following him, going with thestrals), and Harry couldn't refuse, although initially he didn't want to.
Poor Harry, he already assumed a position of a wife-fearing husband.
*~Kaihen~*
Jun 4 2005, 02:41 AM
[FONT=Arial]Have you noticed how Harry looks like his dad, and Ginny looks like Lily...[COLOR=green]
Luke_57
Jun 4 2005, 03:06 AM
that has been discussed ALOT and is very well known
muggleview
Jun 4 2005, 03:44 AM
Emma_isHott, please have mercy on Kaihen. It's his/her first posting ever.
Kaihen, welcome to the Harry/Ginny supporter only thread. I am not a moderator, just a fellow poster. Do you think Harry will hook up with Ginny in HBP?
Babyjapan
Jun 4 2005, 09:57 PM
I like H/G it's so cool & romantic
gryffin_hauz_88
Jun 5 2005, 06:42 AM
Oooh... I've missed posting here yesterday because I'm starting reading again the first five books... just getting ready for HBP... and of course, to find more clues about the ships I'm sailing... I've just finished book three and starting book four.
Hi, Kaihen! Yeah, we've noticed it, too and it's under the incarnation theory. What can you say about the theory, anyway? Just want to add another question for you, aside from the question of the leader of our ship... (is that you, muggy?...

)
Oh... as I've said, I just finished reading book three and the book really made me more convinced about H/G.
Ginny could
almost feel what Harry feels that's why, I think, Ginny knows Harry couldn't lie on him because she knows how he feels.
| QUOTE |
| Ginny, who was huddled in her corner looking nearly as bad as Harry felt. (PoA, Chapter 5, The Dementors) |
And as I've read the book, no one inside the compartment felt like Ginny. She nearly collapsed, that's my bet, just like Harry.
Who made Harry thinks that he was not possessed by Voldemort? Ginny. Because she knows how Harry is feeling that time. They're like more of soulmates, for me.
And what can you say about this? I've read this one from a forum, (forgot where it is because I'm not registered there and I found it while searching about Ginny's wand). Ginny loved Harry because he's famous. If Harry was just an ordinary boy, Ginny wouldn't pay attention to him.
And it is definitely wrong. Because I believe that there is something that binds Harry and Ginny. What can you guys say about that? (Those sentences really upset me...

)
muggleview
Jun 5 2005, 08:48 AM
Gryffin_hauz,
I completely agree with you regarding Harry-Ginny Voldemort link and feeling. That's IMO the important clue Jo Rowling kept saying about. The bonding between them will be crucial to vanguish Voldemort.
Regarding Ginny likes Harry because he is famous, Jo Rowling already rebutted it by cleverly putting the words on Ginny's mouth: "He doesn't want all that" when Draco taunted Harry in Flourish & Blott bookstore in COS.
Ginny understands that Harry despises fame, so Ginny already sees Harry as he is, a boy who stole her heart, not the famous Harry Potter.
As if to make her point clearer, in COS Jo Rowling introduced Colin Creevey who followed Harry with his camera all around. Ron made a misleading remark suggesting if Colin met Ginny, the two will start Harry Potter fan club. Colin is a fan boy, but Ginny was never following Colin.
Another misleading information came from Hagrid, when he found Ginny outside his hut, thinking that Ginny lurking for Harry. Actually Ginny was under possession of Tom Riddle and came to kill the roosters. Thus, it was Tom Riddle in Ginny who gave Hagrid the false reason. Ginny was also suspected to send the Valentine Card with bad poem, although it could be the twins who sent it. They recited the poem correctly despite nowhere nearby when the poem was read to Harry. Ginny was not shown to be shy to see Harry right after that. In fact, she was horrified to see the Diary in Harry's possession.
Unfortunately, many readers fall easily to these traps and used those misleading remarks as "proofs" that Ginny likes Harry as a fan girl.
The reality is Ginny never tried to follow Harry as a fan. She was "languishing in love" (Jo Rowling's words) from far away. I think Jo intentionally hid her in book 3 and 4 to show how Ginny tried not to get too close to Harry at Hogwarts, so Harry seldom saw her. In Book 5, as Ginny matured, she can handle Harry without blushing. Now it will be Harry's turn to chase Ginny.
Xorgee
Jun 5 2005, 02:46 PM
I think it's very obvious that Harry plus Ginny equals love! There is so much evidence.
Hallia
Jun 5 2005, 08:54 PM
I'd never realized all those details giving descriptions of Ginny, but I guess you're right there, they must mean that Harry is observing Ginny a lot. And that
obviously means Harry loves Ginny!!
Scara
Jun 6 2005, 12:41 PM
| QUOTE (Hallia @ Jun 5 2005, 08:54 PM) |
And that obviously means Harry loves Ginny!! |
I think that might be pushing it a bit, but it's definitely not a bad thing that he describes her in such a nice way and overall is taking more notice of her. I'm not at all against a Harry/Ginny relationship I just wouldn't say Harry loves her yet. Well, at least he doesn't know it yet...
Hallia
Jun 6 2005, 02:15 PM
Yeah, I didn't mean he knows he loves her... but he does, at least, feel something for her, even if he hasn't noticed yet.
minerva
Jun 6 2005, 06:12 PM
I agree. Ginny likes Harry for being who he is, without the fame. She's had a crush on him since the beginnning, and their shared links to Voldemort give them a common ground that others, although they may empathise, cannot possibly understand. (although after the battle in the department of mysteries the core group Ron, Hermoine, Nevile have a better understanding finally of what they're up against).
I just feel that, although their upbringing has been totally different, they have a lot in common - ginny only girl amongst all those brothers and harry - only wizard amongst the muggles. This has ,I fel set them slightly apart from things - each wanting to belong and finding this in each other. Haven't really expressed myself too well here (jet lagged after vacation) but hopefully you'll get my drift.
miss.potter
Jun 6 2005, 09:01 PM
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I totally agree i think they are perfect!
gryffin_hauz_88
Jun 7 2005, 08:44 AM
Hello to all who posted here... *waves frantically to them*
| QUOTE (Hallia) |
| Yeah, I didn't mean he knows he loves her... but he does, at least, feel something for her, even if he hasn't noticed yet. |
I agree. Harry feels something for Ginny but he's not aware of it or he might not want to admit it. Because of Ron, that's my reason. It's like, he's torn between his best friend and his best friend's sister. He knows how protective Ron is to Ginny.
About Ginny, in love with Harry because of fame, if Ginny wants someone who's famous, she should also fallen for Lockhart but I think, she wasn't.
As I was saying, I'm reading now GoF. I was wondering what Ginny had felt when Harry didn't ask her to be her date on the Yule Ball. But by her reaction in this quote:
| QUOTE |
"I asked her to go with me just now," Harry said dully, "and she told me." Ginny had suddenly stopped smiling. |
It's kind of confusing. I find these reasons why Ginny stopped smiling:
1. She didn't expect Harry to ask Cho Chang.
2. She felt jealous because Harry asks Cho for the Yule Ball.
3. Ginny stopped smiling because she didn't expect Cho will turn Harry down.
I find the third one is my answer. She stopped smiling because she couldn't believe Cho Chang will dump Harry just like that. Mayeb Ginny's thinking, "How could Cho turn Harry's invitation down? She's not that pretty," or something like that...
KadyWeasley
Jun 7 2005, 09:00 AM
Hi. I'm new here, but definitely a H/G shipper!! They are just so cute!!
Anyways, as far as I'm concerned the biggest obstacle regarding a H/G relationship is (was!) Ron. But now Ron seems to have given his approval, at the same time Harry says he is over Cho... the pathway is clear... well, apart from a small obstacle going by the name of Dean Thomas!
As, muggleview, has said:
| QUOTE |
| Ginny was also suspected to send the Valentine Card with bad poem, although it could be the twins who sent it. They recited the poem correctly despite nowhere nearby when the poem was read to Harry. Ginny was not shown to be shy to see Harry right after that |
I didn't actually notice that before, isn't it amazing the little things that we miss...
gryffin_hauz_88
Jun 7 2005, 09:20 AM
Hello, Kady!
| QUOTE (KadyWeasley) |
| the pathway is clear... well, apart from a small obstacle going by the name of Dean Thomas! |
I don't think Ginny is serious about Dean. She just said that to Ron to annoy him. So, I must agree that the pathway is clear, I just hope that Harry and Ginny will both realize it.