That entrance was corny. They breakdanced and did gymnatics. That was sad. Can you imagine Karkaroff teaching that or planning that? Thats kinda sad. I know that the producer(s) were trying to make it funny/different but i didnt like it.

I dont think it was "corny" at all...its a special kind of dance..as there is another thred that discusses it...I thought it was powerful...
show that they arent to be messed with..you have to look deeper into the actual significance of the moves..than to just say "they look like they are going gymnastics" and I would say its a far cry from breakdancing...just my opinion though (that was actually my favourite part of the whole trailer)

I was more concerned with the Beauxbatons entrance. For one thing, it looked like they were all girls. It also looked like they were doing some sort of formation dance that you'd see in a musical.

I really hope they didn't make this into a musical.

Emm, that's not 'breakdance', They said that was the capoeira dance from Brazil. Okay, maybe that's kinda' weird but well the dances are quite cool. I can't find anything less funny...


-->Psst, the Beauxbatons costume looks like the school uniform from 'Madeline' but the colour is blue..

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leprechaun_123 Posted on May 16 2005, 07:14 PM
.......O yeah and the Durmstrangs only has boy students and the Beauxbatons has only girl student that's quite weird, isn't it?

I didn't really like the dancing, either...but it's not a big deal. I just wonder why they chose to add it....

i didnt think the enterence was corny at all. infact i thought that both durmstrang and beauxbatons had cool enterences, durmstrang's was very powerful to show they were strogn while beauxbatons was quite light to show they were a friendly group.

I'm really sorry for being off topic, but where was this seen? I need to see this.

I saw the teaser trailer and I noticed that all the beauxbaton students do all look like girls, I don't think I saw any boys in there.. plus they are all 5th-7th years right? They shouldn't be looking like girls in the first place, at least, if there are boys...

I didnt like that capoeira entrance, either. The Beauxbatons girls look like as if they were walking on the catwalk(sp?). Weird.


I think i have to reread GoF: i dont remember any girls from Drumstag, or boys from Beauxbatons Is it mentioned in the book?

I think I remember there being something about a boy/some boys in beauxbatons... But I'm not entirely sure there was more than one and since I have no access to my book I can't point it out.

P.S. Can someone please tell me where this was seen?

i thought it was cool how they did the dances. it just shows that the director is trying to put his special touch on it.

hehe, sorry Long Live the Weasel King! got me thinking...


Harry Potter, the Musical!
I can see it all now, and i can see myself dying with laughter seeing Lord Voldemort dancing around the stage singing
*cough* sorry

But they are dancing? I will look out for that when the movie is out.

I thought their dance thing was pretty neat. It was kind of empowering, in my opinion- plus, I bet the guys wanted to show off a little bit, too.
PS- Who can see Voldy tap-dancing to "All I Care About Is Love" from Chicago? (I don't want to go off topic, I just needed to say it) Carry on!

I think the dances were cool. It gave me the idea that guys really tried to show off, and Karkaroff is someone who loves to show off, so it fits perfectly. I'm not afraid that the movie looks like a musical, I don't really see our beloved trio singing.

I would love to see Hermione and Victor kiss but I dont think it would be fullfilling the perpous of the book. There is no point in making the book into the film if you dont stick to it. I really cant waite though 68 days and counting

HP number one Fan, your post is actually off-topic. If you want to talk about the possibility of Hermione kissing Krum in the movie, you should be posting here. This thread is for discussing, as the topic states, the Durmstrang Entrance in the Great Hall.

The dances might be a bit silly, perhaps, but for me they create a real contrast with the students of Hogwarts. Somehow I can't see any of them visiting another school and showing off in that way.

And, people do always tend to think that people from other countries are 'different,' more flamboyant, more expressive, etc., than their own people. I had a British-German friend tell me that if I visited Europe I could probably get away with any faux-pas and still be considered charming, as "Americans are just sort of BIG that way." Of course, many Americans are very conservative, but you know what I mean...

So right away Newell creates the impression of Durmstrang students being bold, straightforward, and in your face. The Beaubatons students give the immediate impression of being charming, flirtatious, and perhaps just a bit shallow & silly. In the end, a pretty neat way to visually portray the newcomers.

Hmmm...I agree with what you are saying chocolatefrogs, but I still found the dancing a bit cheesy. I mean, there was nothing in the books about it and I feel like it makes the schools seem even more self-centrad than they already are. I would probably feel better if Dumbledore was to announce a special entrance or something instead of them just randomly breaking out in dance, but the trailer wouldn't include something like that. I hope that in context of the movie it will fit nicely.

Oh, I totally agree, the dances are [I]definitely[I] cheesy! lol You raised some good points.

I've always enjoyed the books more than the films, and wish the directors would stick to them a bit more than they do. Seems each new director wants to add his own stamp to the series, as it were, by doing something off-the-wall. Cuaron was absolutely off-the-wall. He still made a charming film, but there are bits I didn't like. For instance, why was there time for an annoying singing Fat Lady, but no time to explain that Moony and Padfoot were in fact Lupin and Sirius Black, and that with James Potter and Peter Pettigrew, they made the Marauder's Map?

It shall no doubt be the same with this film. Some characters are being left out (Mrs. Weasley, Ludo Bagman, and even Winky, from what I've read) and that is disturbing, especially if Newell felt they were less important than breakdancing Durmstrang boys. I guess it's a matter of speculation if my theory holds true--that the little dances are a good visual intro to these groups of students, remains to be seen. This may just be another example of a director trying to make his mark and missing it instead.

It's not a big deal. It seems like they were trying to make it more meaningful and magnificent than just walking into the Great Hall. I mean, give it a break. It's ok, I promise, it doesn't ruin the movie.

well i like the entrance of both competetor[z]s.they really performed very well.it[z]s quite different but attractive.so i have no objection

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Mods - very sorry about the one liner, but just wanted to point out that the reason they were all girls is that they are from "Beauxbatons Academy for Young Witches", which is an all-girl school.
Edit: Very sorry, I just re-read GoF, and realised I was mistaken. There are boys in Beauxbatons, I could have sworn that I remembered it being an all girl school, but I was wrong. Maybe that's just the way I had imagined it.

Quite frankly I agree that the Durmstrang entrance was kind of sketchy. My friends and I have been talking about it... when schools go visit other schools, they don't usually bang sticks everywhere. Although, these are wizards we're talking about, so I suppose it's completely different.

Their dance was pretty well done though. Well put together and all.

I enjoyed the entrance, it was of course, non occurent within the novel and yes, it was showy and unecessary however as it was purely for entertainment value I enjoyed it. It was inaccurate though; there are definitely boys that attend Beauxbatons and if the school was being portrayed as a girl's school, I thought their entrance was slightly undignified. Ron's comment of 'bloody hell' is always welcome though . It did display the values of each school in a certain sense, because Durmstrang is a hardy, traditional school and the 'war cry' introduction was appropriate. Beauxbatons is an elegant school with a feminine touch (this is probably because of Madame Maxine).

Oh that was a cool entrance. I loved that fire bird probably a phoniex.
I liked the music they put on for the entrance as well.

I thought thosse sticks were good as well.

I'll always remember Ron's line.

" It's Victor Krum."

I like the fact that Filch was caught up in the entrance as well.

I thought the entrance was pretty cool, but completely unneeded. It didn't follow the novel at all! That was definatly not even close to their entrance because it wasn't that flashy in the book. But I suppose that if they had to add it, then they did a pretty nice job with how they handled it.

i dunno if this is TOTALLY off topic, but if one of the other schools were to have hosted the tri-wizard tournament, what do you think hogwart's entrance would have looked like!? i dunno if the answer takes some real hard thought, or if i'm just totally losing it.

I didn't think that it was corny at all. I thought it was showing how powerful they are especially with the music. They specialized in fire, showing the sparks and with the flame-thrower at the end. I thought it was cool and made them seem really tough you know? Not to be messed around with.

Yes, the entrance is totally movie-fied! I guess you have to fall back on things like that when you don't have enough time and words to really describe the two schools that were coming to Hogwarts. It's just a hazzard of the film media.

I love the question about how Hogwarts would have entered had the tournament been held elsewhere. I just can't see Hogwarts being that goofy...Hogwarts is kind of a bohemian, hippie-type school, IMO. Who knows how they might have been portrayed?! Of course, they do have Potter and his scar...maybe that's all the theatrics they would need!

I think the Durmstrang was fine, actually. Arthur Weasley said wizards just have to show off when they get together, so it was quite in character, I thought. And very pleasing and exciting to watch - it is a movie, after all. It has to look nice!

The Hogwarts entrance would be interesting! It almost comes down to what Dumbledore would have wanted... Hmm. On the one hand, he's the master goof sometimes, but he's also a traditionalist. (was... )

Anyway, I can't seem to get past the book image I have of how things are done at Hogwarts, and there none of the schools made an 'entrance' into the Great Hall, so its moot in a way. I wonder how Hogwarts would have travelled, but that's something else again.

I liked the Durmstrang entrance more than the Beauxbatons one, but that's probably just because I'm a girl.

I thought the Durmstrang's entrance was really, really cool!! I prefered the Durmstrang's entrance far more than the Beauxbaton's entrance because their entrance was too girly for me(even though i am a girl)!!

I liked the dance, actually. It established that the Drumstrang were 'manly men', in a way. It was a quick way to show their personalities. The slamming of their staffs sounded pretty cool in the theatre, in my opinion, which was why I liked it. It gave the whole feel for the school a darker sense... They made the Hogwarts students look a little wimpy, I think.

I didn't see the point, but it was cool. I think it was actualy cool to put in, because it was one of thise things that goes to show that they can't resist showing off when they get together. It was like "Our school is better than yours!"

Lol.

The Beauxbaton/ Durmstrang entrance was too much movie fluff for me. There were so many good things left out, like Dobby, for instance, that I really groaned when scenes were added. I feel this same way about the learning to dance scene. It is funny that McGonagall chooses Ron to dance with (did he have to lift her in the air, like they did at the Yule Ball?). It is also funny that Fred and George state to Harry that they will never let Ron live it down. However, Again, it is information that could have been left out to make room for, I don't know, More Rita Skeeter?

Although the entrances had nothing to do with the books, I didn't think they were corny. I thought it was interesting to see. I think it captured how both schools were. I thought the stomping, the music, and the sticks for the Durmstrang's captured how they are all strong and tough and I thought the Beauxbaton's music and dancing captured them as I had pictured them to be as well.

Sorry to disappoint those of you who thought the entrance was corny, but I rathered enjoyed it. I mean for me it was sort and like an easy way out for an introduction for the schools. I thought the part near the end of their entrance, the part of the scene where one of the students blows the fire and it takes the shape of a phoenix..that was actually creative. Sorry, but I didn't think their entrances were bad at all, but they probably just needed to fill in time.

I know! That entrance was really scary. I was totally freaked out. I started layghing really loudly. They looked so funny and ridiculous!

I somewhat agree, it was all too wierd except for the last part with the fire and the phoenix. Why did they want to enter the hall, bang and twirl some sticks (or what have you) then make them disappear and start running up the aisle doing break dancing? But, as wierd as this may sound, I can't imagine them doing anything else now....

The entrances were okay for me. The Beauxbatons entrance was worse than the Drumstrang's in my opinon. It was just.....weird...girly....and pathetic. The Drumstrang's was also kind of weird but I liked it when they blew that fireball, it was awesome. That's about all that I liked. And just like robbie said I hate that they added some extra scenes that were unnecessay and they could of used that extra time to add some other things that were relevant. But, oh well.

A tad on the corny side, I suppose, but not at all unenjoyable. I liked it, it served their 'tough guy' dark black magic type of character that the books give them. Nothing to argue here

I have already stated that I didn't like the entrance scenes in general. However, I like the Beauxbatons entrance less than the Durmstrong entrance. And what was up with Filch prancing up to the front of the hallway? With beauxbatons, I didn't understand the first two "dips and ooooooos". The girls were so self absorbed that these movements just seemed superfluous. Now the butterflys and the gymnast were okay, but what was with the dips. I also thought it was a little gratuitously titillating to zoom in on the girls behinds when they walked by. I liked it, but it was a tad racy. (Ron Weasley - "You know how I like it when they walk.)

Durmstrang and Buexbaton's entrances are my favorite parts. I've got this thing for gymnastics lol. Then with Durmstrang breaking the floor. I dunno I just thought it was cool. I didn't like with DD looking kinda freaked out by the fire though. It seemed out of character for him.

I think both schools entrances were a little TOO much. Who really walks in like that? I don't know, i know that the whole movie is unreal (being magic and all) but that's just a little TOO unreal. It's like...alright come on...let's get on here. But that's all I really ahve to say about that perticular sceene

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wow, I luved the durmstrang entrance, even if they were kinda showing off..it looked cool, with all the fire & dark effect to it ...but I didn't really like the beauxbaton entrance...and that sighing thing was so annoying...and urgh.

I thought that both of the entrances were okay. But I liked the Durmstrang entrance better than the Beauxbatons entrance. The whole sighing and the butterflies threw me off a little. But the whole dark and firey entrance was good.



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